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I think the most important transfer last season is in the photo you posted. I also think Geiersbach had a great tournament.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:04 am
My vote goes for Sam Geiersbach. A Richmond Spider for 4 years, she transferred to North Carolina this past offseason and had a huge impact on the Heels run to the Summit. Geiersbach single-handedly pulled her teammates back from the brink of the abyss against Northwestern in the national semifinals, scoring 5 of the last 6 goals and the last 4 which included the game tying and game winning goals. Tar Heels go down to another ignominious defeat without #36 on the roster. Then to top off her career, she scores 3 more goals vs BC in the final and wins the Most Outstanding Player of the 2022 NCAA Championship.
Aldave? I beg to differ. Firstly, I chose the word "impactful" not "important". For the most important games of the year during Championship Weekend, Aldave had 1 goal and 1 assist to Geiersbach's 8 goals and 2 assists. Minimal impact. Bottom line--Geiersbach doesn't do what she did that last weekend, BC wins back to back titles and the story line for the Powder Blue Crew is "Yet Another Crushing Underachievement for the Team that was Supposed to Win it All".Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:07 amI think the most important transfer last season is in the photo you posted. I also think Geiersbach had a great tournament.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:04 am
My vote goes for Sam Geiersbach. A Richmond Spider for 4 years, she transferred to North Carolina this past offseason and had a huge impact on the Heels run to the Summit. Geiersbach single-handedly pulled her teammates back from the brink of the abyss against Northwestern in the national semifinals, scoring 5 of the last 6 goals and the last 4 which included the game tying and game winning goals. Tar Heels go down to another ignominious defeat without #36 on the roster. Then to top off her career, she scores 3 more goals vs BC in the final and wins the Most Outstanding Player of the 2022 NCAA Championship.
II don't think there is a right or wrong answer here. I just disagree, irrespective of the word we choose. Aldave was -- game in and game out -- a really important part of the team, chemistry, and the blending of the transfers into the culture of the team. It is not, for me, a statistical comparison. It is a blend of a lot of things, many of which fall into categories that are inchoate. Don't get me wrong: I think Sam is a terrific player and absolutely saved them in the semi and put them over the top in the final. But, for me, that's two (important, I get that) games. The body of work starts in Fall Ball and in January at practice, and I think Aldave was the most impactful/important of the three marquee transfers.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:28 amAldave? I beg to differ. Firstly, I chose the word "impactful" not "important". For the most important games of the year during Championship Weekend, Aldave had 1 goal and 1 assist to Geiersbach's 8 goals and 2 assists. Minimal impact. Bottom line--Geiersbach doesn't do what she did that last weekend, BC wins back to back titles and the story line for the Powder Blue Crew is "Yet Another Crushing Underachievement for the Team that was Supposed to Win it All".Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:07 amI think the most important transfer last season is in the photo you posted. I also think Geiersbach had a great tournament.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:04 am
My vote goes for Sam Geiersbach. A Richmond Spider for 4 years, she transferred to North Carolina this past offseason and had a huge impact on the Heels run to the Summit. Geiersbach single-handedly pulled her teammates back from the brink of the abyss against Northwestern in the national semifinals, scoring 5 of the last 6 goals and the last 4 which included the game tying and game winning goals. Tar Heels go down to another ignominious defeat without #36 on the roster. Then to top off her career, she scores 3 more goals vs BC in the final and wins the Most Outstanding Player of the 2022 NCAA Championship.
Aldave's '22 stats:
Geiersbach's '22 stats:
Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:37 amII don't think there is a right or wrong answer here. I just disagree, irrespective of the word we choose. Aldave was -- game in and game out -- a really important part of the team, chemistry, and the blending of the transfers into the culture of the team. It is not, for me, a statistical comparison. It is a blend of a lot of things, many of which fall into categories that are inchoate. Don't get me wrong: I think Sam is a terrific player and absolutely saved them in the semi and put them over the top in the final. But, for me, that's two (important, I get that) games. The body of work starts in Fall Ball and in January at practice, and I think Aldave was the most impactful/important of the three marquee transfers.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:28 amAldave? I beg to differ. Firstly, I chose the word "impactful" not "important". For the most important games of the year during Championship Weekend, Aldave had 1 goal and 1 assist to Geiersbach's 8 goals and 2 assists. Minimal impact. Bottom line--Geiersbach doesn't do what she did that last weekend, BC wins back to back titles and the story line for the Powder Blue Crew is "Yet Another Crushing Underachievement for the Team that was Supposed to Win it All".Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:07 amI think the most important transfer last season is in the photo you posted. I also think Geiersbach had a great tournament.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:04 am
My vote goes for Sam Geiersbach. A Richmond Spider for 4 years, she transferred to North Carolina this past offseason and had a huge impact on the Heels run to the Summit. Geiersbach single-handedly pulled her teammates back from the brink of the abyss against Northwestern in the national semifinals, scoring 5 of the last 6 goals and the last 4 which included the game tying and game winning goals. Tar Heels go down to another ignominious defeat without #36 on the roster. Then to top off her career, she scores 3 more goals vs BC in the final and wins the Most Outstanding Player of the 2022 NCAA Championship.
Game is at 830PM Eastern.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:25 am According to this tweet, the game will be played at 8:30 pm CT which would make the Eastern Standard Time 9:30 pm, which I don't think is correct. However, to make sure, I'm going to keep checking Twitter throughout the day for more info on the start time. I'll also check the Olympics website at 7:30 pm EST, and 8:30 pm after that if 7:30 pm proves to be incorrect. https://olympics.com/en/sport-events/
https://twitter.com/WorldLacrosse/statu ... 6FCAQOqnXA
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Listed in two tweets today, the time is Central. Here's the most recent one:LaxFan2000 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:20 amGame is at 830PM Eastern.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:25 am According to this tweet, the game will be played at 8:30 pm CT which would make the Eastern Standard Time 9:30 pm, which I don't think is correct. However, to make sure, I'm going to keep checking Twitter throughout the day for more info on the start time. I'll also check the Olympics website at 7:30 pm EST, and 8:30 pm after that if 7:30 pm proves to be incorrect. https://olympics.com/en/sport-events/
https://twitter.com/WorldLacrosse/statu ... 6FCAQOqnXA
ThanksOuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:21 pmListed in two tweets today, the time is Central. Here's the most recent one:LaxFan2000 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:20 amGame is at 830PM Eastern.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:25 am According to this tweet, the game will be played at 8:30 pm CT which would make the Eastern Standard Time 9:30 pm, which I don't think is correct. However, to make sure, I'm going to keep checking Twitter throughout the day for more info on the start time. I'll also check the Olympics website at 7:30 pm EST, and 8:30 pm after that if 7:30 pm proves to be incorrect. https://olympics.com/en/sport-events/
https://twitter.com/WorldLacrosse/statu ... 6FCAQOqnXA
https://twitter.com/WorldLacrosse/statu ... p-6qK098wA
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Without Aldave winning those key draws late in game - Sam G may not get the ball…to go to goal.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:07 amI think the most important transfer last season is in the photo you posted. I also think Geiersbach had a great tournament.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:04 am
My vote goes for Sam Geiersbach. A Richmond Spider for 4 years, she transferred to North Carolina this past offseason and had a huge impact on the Heels run to the Summit. Geiersbach single-handedly pulled her teammates back from the brink of the abyss against Northwestern in the national semifinals, scoring 5 of the last 6 goals and the last 4 which included the game tying and game winning goals. Tar Heels go down to another ignominious defeat without #36 on the roster. Then to top off her career, she scores 3 more goals vs BC in the final and wins the Most Outstanding Player of the 2022 NCAA Championship.
Yup. 2 or 3 of those draws led directly to goal. There were also some great hustle plays late in the game. Yes, huge credit to Sam G for having the confidence and composure to keep going to goal and finishing her shots, that can’t be understated, but it really was a team win. I do think the choice to put Aldave in on the draw and her performance were game-changing.Lax247 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:40 pmWithout Aldave winning those key draws late in game - Sam G may not get the ball…to go to goal.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:07 amI think the most important transfer last season is in the photo you posted. I also think Geiersbach had a great tournament.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:04 am
My vote goes for Sam Geiersbach. A Richmond Spider for 4 years, she transferred to North Carolina this past offseason and had a huge impact on the Heels run to the Summit. Geiersbach single-handedly pulled her teammates back from the brink of the abyss against Northwestern in the national semifinals, scoring 5 of the last 6 goals and the last 4 which included the game tying and game winning goals. Tar Heels go down to another ignominious defeat without #36 on the roster. Then to top off her career, she scores 3 more goals vs BC in the final and wins the Most Outstanding Player of the 2022 NCAA Championship.
Can’t agree with you on this point. #36 scored even when the opposition won the draw (her 1st and 5th) and off turnovers (her 3rd). See below if you can make out my research notes here.Crosscheck wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:29 am SG doesn’t get the ball in the semifinals unless AA wins the draws.
AgreedCrosscheck wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:29 am Switching AA to the draw was a huge part of the comeback.
Agreed