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Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:37 pm
by faircornell
faircornell wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:58 pm Some strong individual performances in the Ivy League:

Offense:

Coulter Mackesy: 10 points (8,2) for Princeton vs Yale
CJ Kirst: 7 points (7,0) for Cornell vs Penn
Colin McGill: 5 points (4,1) for Dartmouth vs Harvard
Billy Coyle: 5 points (2,3) for Cornell vs Penn
Alexander Vardaro: 5 points (1,4) for Princeton vs Yale
Angelo Petrakis: 12/16 (75%) for Cornell vs Penn
Jack Cascadden: 12/16 (75%) for Cornell vs Penn (Rookie performance)
Defense:

Michael Gianforcaro: 14 saves/ 64% for Princeton vs Yale

Other strong performances:

Teddy Malone: 5 points (4,1) for Harvard vs Dartmouth, and (3,0) for Harvard vs BU (Rookie performance)
Sam Handley: 4 points (3,1) for Penn vs Cornell
Matt Barraco: 13/22 (59%) face-offs for Harvard vs Dartmouth
Connor Theriault: 16 saves/62% for Brown vs UMASS
Player of the Week: Coulter Mackesy, Princeton
Rookie of the Week: Jack Cascadden, Cornell

Honor Roll:

Cameron Brown, M Dartmouth (Rookie)
CJ Kirst, A, Cornell
Sam Handley, M, Penn
Chris Lyons, A, Yale
Teddy Malone, A, Harvard (Rookie)
Colin McGill, A, Dartmouth
Blake Peters, D, Penn

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:35 am
by bearlaxfan
Dart @ Cornell. 1-0 vs 2-0
Yale @ Penn. 0-2 vs 1-1
Brown @ Princeton. 0-1 vs 1-1

Dartmouth is rising but not ready to win on the road against a team of Cornell's ability.

Is this game Yale's season? Desperation is energy. One fortunate thing for Eli, even if their defense isn't much better, Penn plays close games. IDK. Uhhhhh... I'll take Yale

Brown was dominated by Princeton at home last year, Tigers the clear favorite tomorrow but this would be the 2nd league loss for either team. If Bruno starts 0-2 they won't be able to repeat last year. Princeton.

Harvard @ Colgate. Crimson's chance to right the ship. Harvard.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:54 am
by FannOLax
bearlaxfan wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:35 am
Is this game Yale's season? Desperation is energy. One fortunate thing for Eli, even if their defense isn't much better, Penn plays close games. IDK. Uhhhhh... I'll take Yale
There have been so many close games between Penn and Yale in the Shay / Murphy era, including a slew of OT games. I'd say that tomorrow's game is vital for both teams; but yes, more so for Yale... although a 3-3 team could make the ILT. "IDK" seems about right!

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:50 pm
by Can Opener
bearlaxfan wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:53 am
Can Opener wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:33 am Here is a WAY too early swag at how the Ivy schedule could play out from Brown’s perspective. The Bears are fortunate that they only had to play one league game without their “loud leaders.” Although they missed a win by only 18 seconds, there is still a relatively clear path to the ILT with only a 2-4 record. In this scenario, it all comes down to beating a Yale squad that is struggling to find its defensive footing. That game is at Yale, but if Bruno can show up in reasonably good health, I like their chances.

Looking at Brown’s competition for the fourth ILT spot, Yale has a tough road ahead with road games at Princeton and at Harvard, a team that may be playing for pride in The Game. It’s hard to get a handle on the identity of this Harvard team that returned most of its key pieces from 2022, but is struggling to regain its mojo. Dartmouth has the most difficult remaining schedule of anyone in the league. I hope I am wrong that they will only have one Ivy win this season. With their FO strength, they have a chance to be competitive against teams with deeper overall talent.

Given the history of big surprises in Ivy League play, there is zero chance it plays out this way, but I thought I’d throw this against the wall. Games in bold have already been played.

Cornell 6-0 W: @Yale, Penn, Dartmouth, @Harvard, @Brown Princeton
Penn 5-1 W: Princeton, Yale, @Brown, @Harvard, Dartmouth L: @Cornell
Princeton 4-2 W: Yale, Brown, @Dartmouth, Harvard L: @Penn, @Cornell
Brown 2-4 W: @Dartmouth, @Yale L: Harvard, @Princeton, Penn, Cornell
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Yale 2-4 W: Dartmouth, @Harvard L: Cornell, @Princeton, @Penn, Brown
Harvard 1-5 W: @Brown, L: @Dartmouth, Cornell, Penn, @Princeton, Yale
Dartmouth 1-5 W: Harvard L: @Cornell, @Yale, Princeton, @Penn, Brown

Brown dropped 20 on Yale last year. Whatever else may be going on in New Haven, I think Brown's 2nd win (assuming your overall premise) better come somewhere else. If healthy, I think they can beat Penn in Pvd; Penn tends to play close games. But I guess in this scenario, 2-4 is out.
🕰️ will tell.
Brown needs to send Penn a fruit basket. With the Quakers win over Yale, Bruno will likely make the Ivy Tournament with a 2-4 record if they can beat Dartmouth and Yale. I’m sure they won’t complain about the side door into the ILT.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:56 pm
by tech37
Is Yale history in '23?

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:32 pm
by RopeUnit
Can Opener wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:50 pm
bearlaxfan wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:53 am
Can Opener wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:33 am Here is a WAY too early swag at how the Ivy schedule could play out from Brown’s perspective. The Bears are fortunate that they only had to play one league game without their “loud leaders.” Although they missed a win by only 18 seconds, there is still a relatively clear path to the ILT with only a 2-4 record. In this scenario, it all comes down to beating a Yale squad that is struggling to find its defensive footing. That game is at Yale, but if Bruno can show up in reasonably good health, I like their chances.

Looking at Brown’s competition for the fourth ILT spot, Yale has a tough road ahead with road games at Princeton and at Harvard, a team that may be playing for pride in The Game. It’s hard to get a handle on the identity of this Harvard team that returned most of its key pieces from 2022, but is struggling to regain its mojo. Dartmouth has the most difficult remaining schedule of anyone in the league. I hope I am wrong that they will only have one Ivy win this season. With their FO strength, they have a chance to be competitive against teams with deeper overall talent.

Given the history of big surprises in Ivy League play, there is zero chance it plays out this way, but I thought I’d throw this against the wall. Games in bold have already been played.

Cornell 6-0 W: @Yale, Penn, Dartmouth, @Harvard, @Brown Princeton
Penn 5-1 W: Princeton, Yale, @Brown, @Harvard, Dartmouth L: @Cornell
Princeton 4-2 W: Yale, Brown, @Dartmouth, Harvard L: @Penn, @Cornell
Brown 2-4 W: @Dartmouth, @Yale L: Harvard, @Princeton, Penn, Cornell
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Yale 2-4 W: Dartmouth, @Harvard L: Cornell, @Princeton, @Penn, Brown
Harvard 1-5 W: @Brown, L: @Dartmouth, Cornell, Penn, @Princeton, Yale
Dartmouth 1-5 W: Harvard L: @Cornell, @Yale, Princeton, @Penn, Brown

Brown dropped 20 on Yale last year. Whatever else may be going on in New Haven, I think Brown's 2nd win (assuming your overall premise) better come somewhere else. If healthy, I think they can beat Penn in Pvd; Penn tends to play close games. But I guess in this scenario, 2-4 is out.
🕰️ will tell.
Brown needs to send Penn a fruit basket. With the Quakers win over Yale, Bruno will likely make the Ivy Tournament with a 2-4 record if they can beat Dartmouth and Yale. I’m sure they won’t complain about the side door into the ILT.
I wouldn’t feel too comfortable making ANY assumptions yet! Can definitely see Harvard and/or Dartmouth at 3-3 just as easily as 1-5.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:10 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
tech37 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:56 pm Is Yale history in '23?
No…but may need help. 3-3 used to be good enough. Tie breakers. Beat Brown, Dartmouth and Harvard and cross their fingers. That was early Yale….get in the ILT, win it and make the NCAA.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:24 pm
by faircornell
Some strong individual performances in the Ivy League. This seems to have been a strong weekend for the offences:

Offense:

CJ Kirst, Cornell: 6 points (5,1) vs Dartmouth
Coulter Mackesy, Princeton: 6 points (3,3) vs Brown
Ben Smith, Penn: 5 points (4,1) vs Yale
Sam Handley, Penn: 5 points (2,3) vs Yale
Aiden Blake, Cornell: 4 points (4,0) vs Dartmouth
Miles Botkiss, Harvard: 4 points (4,0) vs Colgate
Hugh Kelleher, Cornell: 4 points (4,0) vs Dartmouth
Tynan Walsh, Penn: 4 points (4,0) vs Brown
Joe Dowling, Harvard: 4 points (3,1) vs Colgate
Sam English, Princeton: 4 points (3,1) vs Brown
Chris Acer, Penni: 20/34 (59%) face-off vs Yale

Defense:

Michael Gianforcaro, Princeton: 13 saves (52%) vs Brown
Chayse Ierlan, Cornell: 11 saves (53%) vs Dartmouth
Gavin Adler, Cornell: 3GB, 3 CT


Other strong performances:

Leo Johnson, Yale: 6 points (4,2) for Yale vs Penn
Aiden McLane, Brown: 5 points (5,0) vs Princeton
Colin McGill, Dartmouth: 4 points (2,2,) vs Dartmouth
Devon McLane, Brown: 4 points (2,2) vs Princeton
Mathew Gunty, Brown: 21/32 (66%) face-off vs Princeton
Mitchell Meyers, Dartmouth: 14/30 (47%) face-off vs Cornell (stamina recognition)
Connor Theriault, Brown: 33 saves in two games (55%) vs Villanova and Princeton

Any suggestions welcome. I'm not sure regarding rookie performances.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:30 pm
by faircornell
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:10 pm
tech37 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:56 pm Is Yale history in '23?
No…but may need help. 3-3 used to be good enough. Tie breakers. Beat Brown, Dartmouth and Harvard and cross their fingers. That was early Yale….get in the ILT, win it and make the NCAA.
Yale has faced the three toughest teams in the Ivies and has wins over Villanova, UMass and Denver. The BU game this coming week is important. I don't know if their resume might put them on the bubble if they end their season 5-0, and get one ILT win. The very close game against Penn shows that they have a chance to do that.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:57 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
faircornell wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:30 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:10 pm
tech37 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:56 pm Is Yale history in '23?
No…but may need help. 3-3 used to be good enough. Tie breakers. Beat Brown, Dartmouth and Harvard and cross their fingers. That was early Yale….get in the ILT, win it and make the NCAA.
Yale has faced the three toughest teams in the Ivies and has wins over Villanova, UMass and Denver. The BU game this coming week is important. I don't know if their resume might put them on the bubble if they end their season 5-0, and get one ILT win. The very close game against Penn shows that they have a chance to do that.
Yep. A lot of lacrosse left.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:37 am
by drunkmonkey30
faircornell wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:30 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:10 pm
tech37 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:56 pm Is Yale history in '23?
No…but may need help. 3-3 used to be good enough. Tie breakers. Beat Brown, Dartmouth and Harvard and cross their fingers. That was early Yale….get in the ILT, win it and make the NCAA.
Yale has faced the three toughest teams in the Ivies and has wins over Villanova, UMass and Denver. The BU game this coming week is important. I don't know if their resume might put them on the bubble if they end their season 5-0, and get one ILT win. The very close game against Penn shows that they have a chance to do that.

And hope c/p/p don’t get upset by b/h/d.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:03 pm
by Can Opener
As a fan of the league, it pains me to admit that the Ivies may drop from a six-bid league to a one-bid league. I played around with the records and schedules and here are a few unfortunate facts:

* The Ancient Eight has a combined 5 wins against non-league Top 20 teams. Thank heavens for Nova which has supplied 40% of those wins. One of Yale’s ranked wins will disappear if #19 Denver loses to Nova this week, dropping the OOC ranked wins to four. Obviously the lack of quality OOC success devalues league wins.
* Penn, Princeton, Brown, Harvard & Yale have a combined record of 19-21. None of them has a winning record. All five teams were ranked among the top 16 in the IL preseason poll. Ouch.

The one-bid scenario probably involves:
* Cornell wins the ILT
* Princeton loses in the regular season to Cornell
* Penn loses either @ Brown or @ Harvard in their next two games. Penn is currently ranked #15 and enjoys a top 10 RPI, but a “clunker” loss @ Brown Saturday would drop them to 4-5 and hurt their RPI.

On the flip side, a three-bid scenario is feasible, but almost certainly involves someone other than Cornell winning the ILT. The trouble there is that Penn and Princeton will likely face each other in the first round. If you are rooting for three bids, you’re probably hoping that Princeton wins the ILT and Penn squeaks into an at-large thanks to wins in their last four regular season games giving them an 8-5 record after the ILT first round loss. The Quakers are hoping that their “big win” over Georgetown gets more valuable as the Hoyas keep winning. Man, that one-goal loss to St. Joe’s really hurts.

Princeton’s #15 IL ranking seems precarious as they have no Top 20 wins (yup, you read that right) and Cornell is the only ranked team on their remaining schedule. Princeton probably needs to run the table (Cuse, Dart, Harv, Corn) for any chance at an at-large bid. A loss to Cuse Saturday drops the Tigers to 4-5 and probably out of the rankings.

Ironically, Harvard has perhaps the best opportunity (but not likelihood) to boost RPI and climb in the polls with three upcoming games against ranked opponents. There is plenty of talent on that team, so it’s curious why things haven’t gelled yet for the Crimson. Brown, when healthy and not in the noise violation hoosegow, has a similar opportunity with their next three games coming against Penn, Yale and Cornell. Realistically, their only chance is the AQ, but with Gunty at the dot and The People’s Goalie, on any given day…

I am thrilled for Dartmouth to get off the snide, but Vegas doesn’t expect them to win again.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:15 pm
by ctbagataway
Good analysis, CO, hard to argue with it. Excellent use of hoosegow, btw.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:35 pm
by Can Opener
ctbagataway wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:15 pm Good analysis, CO, hard to argue with it. Excellent use of hoosegow, btw.
Not sure where I picked that one up. It's a kissing cousin of "frogmarch."

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:50 pm
by faircornell
faircornell wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 8:24 pm Some strong individual performances in the Ivy League. This seems to have been a strong weekend for the offences:

Offense:

CJ Kirst, Cornell: 6 points (5,1) vs Dartmouth
Coulter Mackesy, Princeton: 6 points (3,3) vs Brown
Ben Smith, Penn: 5 points (4,1) vs Yale
Sam Handley, Penn: 5 points (2,3) vs Yale
Aiden Blake, Cornell: 4 points (4,0) vs Dartmouth
Miles Botkiss, Harvard: 4 points (4,0) vs Colgate
Hugh Kelleher, Cornell: 4 points (4,0) vs Dartmouth
Tynan Walsh, Penn: 4 points (4,0) vs Brown
Joe Dowling, Harvard: 4 points (3,1) vs Colgate
Sam English, Princeton: 4 points (3,1) vs Brown
Chris Acer, Penni: 20/34 (59%) face-off vs Yale

Defense:

Michael Gianforcaro, Princeton: 13 saves (52%) vs Brown
Chayse Ierlan, Cornell: 11 saves (53%) vs Dartmouth
Gavin Adler, Cornell: 3GB, 3 CT


Other strong performances:

Leo Johnson, Yale: 6 points (4,2) for Yale vs Penn
Aiden McLane, Brown: 5 points (5,0) vs Princeton
Colin McGill, Dartmouth: 4 points (2,2,) vs Dartmouth
Devon McLane, Brown: 4 points (2,2) vs Princeton
Mathew Gunty, Brown: 21/32 (66%) face-off vs Princeton
Mitchell Meyers, Dartmouth: 14/30 (47%) face-off vs Cornell (stamina recognition)
Connor Theriault, Brown: 33 saves in two games (55%) vs Villanova and Princeton

Any suggestions welcome. I'm not sure regarding rookie performances.
POW: Coulter Mackesy, Princeton
ROW: Logan Ip, Harvard

Honor Roll:

Colin McGill, Dartmouth
Miles Botkiss, Harvard
Ben Smith, Penn
CJ Kirst, Cornell
Leo Johnson, Yale
Connor Theriault, Brown
Thomas Goguen, Dartmouth (Rookie, D)
Jack Cascadden, Cornell (Rookie Face-off)

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:04 pm
by 10stone5
I really don’t know what to make of this game,
7-5 Penn at the half,

the only thing that stands out,
good production for Penn from Gabe Furey.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:15 pm
by 10stone5
Luke DiNola ??
W-T-F ?

Good game also from Griffin King.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:48 pm
by 10stone5
Handley with feed,
now 11-11, 4 left Penn ball.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:51 pm
by 10stone5
Kelly,
12-11 Brown
2 left.

Brown ball.

Re: Ivy League 2023

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:58 pm
by 10stone5
44 left,
Penn ball.

Brown defense holds, 12-11 final.