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joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:29 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:23 pm

CU77 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:15 pm We could end up with the dreaded five teams at 4-2 scenario ...

We already have a nice closed loop, Y>Pr>Pe>C>Y ...

We could get there. So far, no Ivy team has lost at home. I'm trying to determine who needs to beat whom away for this to happen. For example, if Cornell beats Dartmouth away, and Harvard and Brown at home, and loses to Princeton away, it ends the season at 4-2.

FC,
If you offered ANY Ivy team, TODAY, 4-2, would they take it? Answer: A resounding YES, in a heartbeat.
Do you concur?
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

Absolutely. I concur. There is great parity in the league, and on any given Saturday, anything can happen. This parity is not only in great players, but also in great coaching and recruiting.

faircornell wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:39 pm

joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:29 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:23 pm

CU77 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:15 pm We could end up with the dreaded five teams at 4-2 scenario ...

We already have a nice closed loop, Y>Pr>Pe>C>Y ...

We could get there. So far, no Ivy team has lost at home. I'm trying to determine who needs to beat whom away for this to happen. For example, if Cornell beats Dartmouth away, and Harvard and Brown at home, and loses to Princeton away, it ends the season at 4-2.

FC,
If you offered ANY Ivy team, TODAY, 4-2, would they take it? Answer: A resounding YES, in a heartbeat.
Do you concur?
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

Absolutely. I concur. There is great parity in the league, and on any given Saturday, anything can happen. This parity is not only in great players, but also in great coaching and recruiting.

You know what, Harvard sitting at 2-0 and looking pretty strong might be one to say, ahhhhhh, maybe not. With what many considered the top 4 getting all the attention, could it possibly be that the team on the Charles, comes out on top? Wouldn't shock me at this point. They are very good and well coached.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

faircornell wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:23 pm

CU77 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:15 pm We could end up with the dreaded five teams at 4-2 scenario ...

I'm trying to determine who needs to beat whom away for this to happen.

For this (very unlikely!) scenario to happen, two teams have to lose every game to the other five. Then, each of those five, in games against each other, have to go 2-2.

Only B and D do not have an Ivy win yet, so they would need to lose all their remaining Ivy games.

Then C, Pe, Pr, Y each need to go 1-1 in games against H and the one of those four not played yet; while H needs to go 2-2 in games against those four.

I'm not going to try to figure out the minimum number of away wins this requires ...

Not sure what the tie break system is for such an outcome, but I imagine there is one. I'll speculate it would come down to goal differential among the 5 4-2s, in which case it would make a lot of sense to try to run up the score if the opportunity presented itself.

Tiebreakers are here: https://ivyleague.com/sports/2018/4/17/ ... 80748.aspx

Goal differential does come in, 6 goals max per game.

Possible Ivy Honorees this week:

POW:

1) Sam King, Harvard: 9 points (6,3) vs Dartmouth, 3 points (3,0) vs BU
2) Matt Brandau, Yale: 8 points (5,3) vs Princeton
3) Jared Paquette, Yale: 19 saves (61%) vs Princeton
4) Patrick Bradshaw, Penn: 15 saves (58%) vs Cornell
5) Jamie Zuzi, Penn: 72% face-offs vs Cornell

ROW:

1) Chris Lyons, Yale: 3 points (3,0) vs Princeton
2) Cam Rubin, Penn: 3 points (3,0) vs Cornell
3) Miles Botkiss, Harvard: 2 points (2,0) vs Dartmouth

CU77 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:19 pm Tiebreakers are here: https://ivyleague.com/sports/2018/4/17/ ... 80748.aspx

Goal differential does come in, 6 goals max per game.

Is the number 1 seed the host for the Ivy Tournament in 2022 ? It may be an advantage not having to travel at a time when the academic load can be heavy.

laxpert wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:26 am

CU77 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:19 pm Tiebreakers are here: https://ivyleague.com/sports/2018/4/17/ ... 80748.aspx

Goal differential does come in, 6 goals max per game.

Is the number 1 seed the host for the Ivy Tournament in 2022 ? It may be an advantage not having to travel at a time when the academic load can be heavy.

The League has not yet announced where the 2022 ILT might be held. In previous years, the announcement was made well before conference play began.

faircornell wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:30 am Possible Ivy Honorees this week:

POW:

1) Sam King, Harvard: 9 points (6,3) vs Dartmouth, 3 points (3,0) vs BU
2) Matt Brandau, Yale: 8 points (5,3) vs Princeton
3) Jared Paquette, Yale: 19 saves (61%) vs Princeton
4) Patrick Bradshaw, Penn: 15 saves (58%) vs Cornell
5) Jamie Zuzi, Penn: 72% face-offs vs Cornell

ROW:

1) Chris Lyons, Yale: 3 points (3,0) vs Princeton
2) Cam Rubin, Penn: 3 points (3,0) vs Cornell
3) Miles Botkiss, Harvard: 2 points (2,0) vs Dartmouth

Got to be a Bulldog for Player of the Week this week, right? Unless Brandau and Paquette split the votes, Oscar style.

The Orfling wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:35 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:30 am Possible Ivy Honorees this week:

POW:

1) Sam King, Harvard: 9 points (6,3) vs Dartmouth, 3 points (3,0) vs BU
2) Matt Brandau, Yale: 8 points (5,3) vs Princeton
3) Jared Paquette, Yale: 19 saves (61%) vs Princeton
4) Patrick Bradshaw, Penn: 15 saves (58%) vs Cornell
5) Jamie Zuzi, Penn: 72% face-offs vs Cornell

ROW:

1) Chris Lyons, Yale: 3 points (3,0) vs Princeton
2) Cam Rubin, Penn: 3 points (3,0) vs Cornell
3) Miles Botkiss, Harvard: 2 points (2,0) vs Dartmouth

Got to be a Bulldog for Player of the Week this week, right? Unless Brandau and Paquette split the votes, Oscar style.

It'll be interesting. They've named two goalies recently, and, by any measure, Paquette had a lights out day. Sometimes the league only looks at production and not strength of opponent, in which case Sam King might take it. For ROW, I'd be surprised if Lyons was not named. He did well in Yale's comeback effort against Cornell, and is a true rookie.

faircornell wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:58 pm

The Orfling wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:35 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:30 am Possible Ivy Honorees this week:

POW:

1) Sam King, Harvard: 9 points (6,3) vs Dartmouth, 3 points (3,0) vs BU
2) Matt Brandau, Yale: 8 points (5,3) vs Princeton
3) Jared Paquette, Yale: 19 saves (61%) vs Princeton
4) Patrick Bradshaw, Penn: 15 saves (58%) vs Cornell
5) Jamie Zuzi, Penn: 72% face-offs vs Cornell

ROW:

1) Chris Lyons, Yale: 3 points (3,0) vs Princeton
2) Cam Rubin, Penn: 3 points (3,0) vs Cornell
3) Miles Botkiss, Harvard: 2 points (2,0) vs Dartmouth

Got to be a Bulldog for Player of the Week this week, right? Unless Brandau and Paquette split the votes, Oscar style.

It'll be interesting. They've named two goalies recently, and, by any measure, Paquette had a lights out day. Sometimes the league only looks at production and not strength of opponent, in which case Sam King might take it. For ROW, I'd be surprised if Lyons was not named. He did well in Yale's comeback effort against Cornell, and is a true rookie.

Good point on Sam King — plus, I hadn’t factored in the great Harvard win over ranked BU. A hat trick in that game plus 9 points against Dartmouth is quite a resume. Maybe King as POW and, as you suggest, Lyons as ROW.

As of now, 5 of the RPI top 8 are Ivies:
http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rating01x.php

CU77 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:41 pm As of now, 5 of the RPI top 8 are Ivies:
http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rating01x.php

In the rankings, what is up with Notre Dame? How are they ranked so high?

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:01 pm

CU77 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:41 pm As of now, 5 of the RPI top 8 are Ivies:
http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rating01x.php

In the rankings, what is up with Notre Dame? How are they ranked so high?

In RPI? They’ve played 8-0 Maryland, 6-3 OSU, 7-1 UVA, I think 7-1 GTown. That opponent wins % component is crazy high rn

The Orfling wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:13 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:58 pm

The Orfling wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:35 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:30 am Possible Ivy Honorees this week:

POW:

1) Sam King, Harvard: 9 points (6,3) vs Dartmouth, 3 points (3,0) vs BU
2) Matt Brandau, Yale: 8 points (5,3) vs Princeton
3) Jared Paquette, Yale: 19 saves (61%) vs Princeton
4) Patrick Bradshaw, Penn: 15 saves (58%) vs Cornell
5) Jamie Zuzi, Penn: 72% face-offs vs Cornell

ROW:

1) Chris Lyons, Yale: 3 points (3,0) vs Princeton
2) Cam Rubin, Penn: 3 points (3,0) vs Cornell
3) Miles Botkiss, Harvard: 2 points (2,0) vs Dartmouth

Got to be a Bulldog for Player of the Week this week, right? Unless Brandau and Paquette split the votes, Oscar style.

It'll be interesting. They've named two goalies recently, and, by any measure, Paquette had a lights out day. Sometimes the league only looks at production and not strength of opponent, in which case Sam King might take it. For ROW, I'd be surprised if Lyons was not named. He did well in Yale's comeback effort against Cornell, and is a true rookie.

Good point on Sam King — plus, I hadn’t factored in the great Harvard win over ranked BU. A hat trick in that game plus 9 points against Dartmouth is quite a resume. Maybe King as POW and, as you suggest, Lyons as ROW.

Is King not a first year?

BTW, they need to have a chat with their stats guys, that last goal vs BU by Cheek was off of a strip ride, GB and pass to the crease by King, as I recall. 1:30 on this recap video. https://gocrimson.com/news/2022/3/22/me ... ctory.aspx

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:47 am

The Orfling wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:13 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:58 pm

The Orfling wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:35 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:30 am Possible Ivy Honorees this week:

POW:

1) Sam King, Harvard: 9 points (6,3) vs Dartmouth, 3 points (3,0) vs BU
2) Matt Brandau, Yale: 8 points (5,3) vs Princeton
3) Jared Paquette, Yale: 19 saves (61%) vs Princeton
4) Patrick Bradshaw, Penn: 15 saves (58%) vs Cornell
5) Jamie Zuzi, Penn: 72% face-offs vs Cornell

ROW:

1) Chris Lyons, Yale: 3 points (3,0) vs Princeton
2) Cam Rubin, Penn: 3 points (3,0) vs Cornell
3) Miles Botkiss, Harvard: 2 points (2,0) vs Dartmouth

Got to be a Bulldog for Player of the Week this week, right? Unless Brandau and Paquette split the votes, Oscar style.

It'll be interesting. They've named two goalies recently, and, by any measure, Paquette had a lights out day. Sometimes the league only looks at production and not strength of opponent, in which case Sam King might take it. For ROW, I'd be surprised if Lyons was not named. He did well in Yale's comeback effort against Cornell, and is a true rookie.

Good point on Sam King — plus, I hadn’t factored in the great Harvard win over ranked BU. A hat trick in that game plus 9 points against Dartmouth is quite a resume. Maybe King as POW and, as you suggest, Lyons as ROW.

Is King not a first year?

BTW, they need to have a chat with their stats guys, that last goal vs BU by Cheek was off of a strip ride, GB and pass to the crease by King, as I recall. 1:30 on this recap video. https://gocrimson.com/news/2022/3/22/me ... ctory.aspx

You are correct. My error. I guess he's a great candidate for ROY.

faircornell wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:00 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:47 am

The Orfling wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:13 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:58 pm

The Orfling wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:35 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:30 am Possible Ivy Honorees this week:

POW:

1) Sam King, Harvard: 9 points (6,3) vs Dartmouth, 3 points (3,0) vs BU
2) Matt Brandau, Yale: 8 points (5,3) vs Princeton
3) Jared Paquette, Yale: 19 saves (61%) vs Princeton
4) Patrick Bradshaw, Penn: 15 saves (58%) vs Cornell
5) Jamie Zuzi, Penn: 72% face-offs vs Cornell

ROW:

1) Chris Lyons, Yale: 3 points (3,0) vs Princeton
2) Cam Rubin, Penn: 3 points (3,0) vs Cornell
3) Miles Botkiss, Harvard: 2 points (2,0) vs Dartmouth

Got to be a Bulldog for Player of the Week this week, right? Unless Brandau and Paquette split the votes, Oscar style.

It'll be interesting. They've named two goalies recently, and, by any measure, Paquette had a lights out day. Sometimes the league only looks at production and not strength of opponent, in which case Sam King might take it. For ROW, I'd be surprised if Lyons was not named. He did well in Yale's comeback effort against Cornell, and is a true rookie.

Good point on Sam King — plus, I hadn’t factored in the great Harvard win over ranked BU. A hat trick in that game plus 9 points against Dartmouth is quite a resume. Maybe King as POW and, as you suggest, Lyons as ROW.

Is King not a first year?

BTW, they need to have a chat with their stats guys, that last goal vs BU by Cheek was off of a strip ride, GB and pass to the crease by King, as I recall. 1:30 on this recap video. https://gocrimson.com/news/2022/3/22/me ... ctory.aspx

You are correct. My error. I guess he's a great candidate for ROY.

BTW, King also had 4 G's against BU, not 3.

So far, it looks like the Ivy's should get the space normally reserved for all the ACC teams in the tournament....as of this past weekend.

Bacondoesstuff2 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:43 am So far, it looks like the Ivy's should get the space normally reserved for all the ACC teams in the tournament....as of this past weekend.

yup. maybe 4 and then 2 and 2 for b1g and acc. lotta games left. opponents and opponents' opponents will keep tacking on to records. but the ivy is in as good a shape as possible at this point.

Bacondoesstuff2 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:43 am So far, it looks like the Ivy's should get the space normally reserved for all the ACC teams in the tournament....as of this past weekend.

Yeah, but what happens when they keep cannibalizing each other as the season goes on? Remember, should Hopkins hit .500 (and I think they will) they're practically a shoe-in with at least 2 other Bit 10 teams. ACC will get 3, no doubt. I bet the Ivies end up with 3.

Hoping to be pleasantly surprised, though...