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HooDat wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:11 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:15 am

HooDat wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:43 am

RopeUnit wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:34 pm Won't Harvard and Princeton be log-jammed across the board? I was under the impression the bulk of the student athletes took the year off and are re-enrolling to keep full eligibility--if PT is the driving force for a recruit, that seems a bit more burdensome than a transfer or two.

Unless those kid's families make under $100,000 per year (not typical for Ivy Lacrosse players) that is a VERY expensive "redshirt"!

Not just the extra year of tuition, but a lost year of income (which I would peg at $100,000 for an average Ivy lacrosse grad - assuming he wants that job) that he will never get back.

And I understand these guys will also never get back that year of playing college lacrosse without deferring. I am just pointing out that kids who did this just paid $200,000 for the privilege of playing lacrosse for one more year.

You are assuming that there was no paid internships for the year. Also, if a player took the year off, they don’t have to pay tuition and room & board to hold a spot. It’s more problematic for kids that withdraw after being in session for the semester. After a 40 year career, not sure anyone is going to lose sleep over deferring the start of their career by a year so they work 39 years instead of 40.

I agree with all you say here - just pointing out that that deferral is a luxury that comes with at least some cost.

Yes. I don’t blame the students that withdrew for the year. If you have a chance to get four years of a regular college experience, why not? Not everyone can do it but if you can, why not? I believe that was a greater motivator for the students that I know than saving it for lacrosse. But withdrawing after sinking a semesters tuition is a different story.

Transfers @ 06-28-2021

Air Force - Sean Curcio (M)*** -> Drexel
Albany - Kyle Casey (A)**-> Pace (D2), Matt Eccles (M)**, Tehoka Nanticoke (A)
Binghamton - Tom Galgano (D)**->Adelphi,Teddy Dolan (G)*
Bellarmine - Chase Fairbanks (D)-> Monmouth
Boston U. - Michael Doxie (M)**
Bryant: Mason Balch (A), Ryan Auger (M), Mitch Lachman (A)
Brown - George Pike (M)*, Riley Stewart (M)**, Finn Gibbons (A)**
Bucknell - Matt Fedorjaka (M)** - > Notre Dame, Tommy Sopko (A)**, Sumner Brumbaugh (A)**, Bryant Boswell (D)**
Canisius - Otto Bergmann (G)
Cleveland State - Kevin Sobey (G)
Colgate - Mike Hawkins, (A/M)** -> Notre Dame, James Caddigan (A)**, Thor Adamec (LSM)*, Will Sidari (D)*, Ryan Decker (M)**,
Cornell - Jonathan Donville (M)** -> Maryland, Harrison Bardwell (SSDM)**, Matt Licciardi (M)**
Dartmouth - Peter Rizzotti (LSM), Danny Hincks (G)*, Kellen Paradine (D)**, Westy McLaughlin (A)
Delaware - Peter St. Geme (M)
Detroit Mercy: Logan Shamblin (G)**
Drexel - Kyle DeCrispino (A) -> Mount St. Mary's, Aidan Coll (A)**, Brennan Greenwald (LSM)*
Duke - JP Basile (A)**-> Villanova
Georgetown - Gavin Lindsay (SSDM)**
Hartford - 10+ Players, Ian Groom (FO) ->Hampton, Zak Lanoue (M)->Bryant
Harvard - Austin Madronic (A)*
Hobart: Drew Blanchard (FO)**, Jason Knox (A)
Hofstra - Ben Stewart (M) -> Wagner
Jacksonville - Colby Rogers (FO)
Johns Hopkins - Owen Murphy (A), Brett Baskin (A/M)**Villanova, Luke Shilling (A)**, John Cohen (A), John Schreiber (M), Kaden Brothers (D), Jacob Brunner (M), Evan Zinn** (M, 2yrs)
Lehigh - Matt Douglas (LSM/D)** —> Notre Dame
Marist - Jake Weinman (A)**, Jack Zukowski (SSDM)** -> Duke
Marquette - John Hulsman (G)**-> Florida Tech (DII)
Maryland- Connor Whalen (LSM), Dean Draughan (M), Kyle Berkeley (M)**-> Towson, Conor Calderone (FO), Nick DeMaio (A), Chris Brandau (G)
Mercer - Collin Stewart (M)
Michigan - Kevin Mack (A)**, Alex Buckanavage (M)**, Joey Corbett (M)
Monmouth: Chris Hervada (D)** Villanova, Dom Pizzulli (A)**
Mount St. Mary's - Luke Frankeny (A)**->Richmond, Bryan McIntosh (D)** -> Hofstra, Sam Stephen (FO)**-> Rutgers
Navy - Tyler Cordes (M) *** -> Syracuse
North Carolina - Will Bowen (D)** -> Georgetown, Caton Johnson (G)-> Ohio State, Luke Millican (G)**, Alex Trippi **(A), Parker Alexander (SSDM)**, Brian Cameron (A) -> Rutgers
Notre Dame: Michael Drake (A/M)**, Matt Schmidt (G)**; Connor Morin (A)**, Jimmy Littlefield (D)**
Ohio State - Gerard Kane (A) -> Hofstra, Drew Elder (FO) -> Tampa (DII), Grant Mitchell (M), Michael Clibanoff (G), Matthew Clibanoff (A), Henry Watson (D), Logan Santos (M)
Penn - Mitch Bartolo (A/M)**-> Rutgers , Sean Lulley (A)**->Duke
Penn State - Cole Willard (M)** -> Tampa (DII), John Nostrant (M)**
Providence - Toby Burgdorf (G)** -> Rutgers, Emmett Jennings (D)**
Richmond - Jax Popovich (FO) -> Boston U., Jason Reynolds (D)** —> Notre Dame, Tate Gallagher (M)**
Robert Morris - Michael Autry (FO)**
Rutgers - Max Beauchamp (M)
Sacred Heart: Logan Liljeberg (A)**—>UMass
St. Bonaventure - Brett Dobson (G)**
St. John’s - Dylan Willis (M) -> (Withdrawn on 5/4)
Stony Brook - Daniel Cassidy (D)**->Wagner, Layton Harrell (A), Tommy Dolciotto (M), Zach Thompson (A), Steven Pinto (M), Kyle Hebert (G)**, Devin O’Leary **(LSM/D)
Syracuse - Zach Lee (D), JT Stirpe (A), Nathan McPeak (G)**, Luke Talago (FO)
Towson - Casey Wasserman (M)->Utah
UMass - Luke Blanc (A)->Marquette , Tyler Strub (D)
UMBC - Ryan Young (D)
Villanova - Keegan Khan (A)**, Owen PrybylskI (D)**, Dan Fisher (FO)**, Stevie Peters (M)**, Brendan Haggerty (G)**
Virginia - Will Rock (LSM)**, Regan Quinn (M)**, Russell Maher (A/M), Gavin Tygh (FO), Jackson Appelt (A)**, Michael Harmeyer (A)
VMI - Jon Fant (A)** -> St. Joe’s
Vermont: Connor Boyle (M)
Yale - Nick Caccamo (D) -> Syracuse

Division 2/3
Amherst (D3) - Gib Versfeld (G)** -> Johns Hopkins, Ethan Kazmierski (M)**
Franklin & Marshall (D3) - Luke Keating (A)**->Villanova
Gettysburg (D3) - Andrew Horn (D)**
Lynchburg (D3) - Tyler Gallagher (D)** ->Ohio State
Mercyhurst (D2) - Caleb Kueber (A)**, John Pipher (A)**, Nathan Grenon (M)**
Salisbury (D3) - Brad Apgar (D)**-> Rutgers, Griffin Moroney (A)**
Stevens Tech (D3) - Ryan Gebhardt (A/M)**
SUNY-Maritime (D3) - Matt DeMeo (M)! -> Stony Brook
Tufts (D3) - Max Waldbaum (A)** -> Jacksonville
Ursinus (D3) - Hakan Atillasoy (A)**
Wesleyan (D3) - Ronan Jacoby (A)** -> Rutgers
York (D3) - Brendan O'Sullivan (A)**

* in the portal for the future 2023
** grad transfer
*** transfer from Military Prep
! For future 2022

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Wonder if syracuse has interest and any shot at Prybilski who could be a great bridge for Gait to develop his team with for the future

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:38 pm Wonder if syracuse has interest and any shot at Prybilski who could be a great bridge for Gait to develop his team with for the future

An overweight defenseman that can’t cover, should fit in great with their current personnel.

5th yr, all BE 2nd team w 17CTs and 28Gbs last year and the size necessary to defend the opponents on their schedule unlike Mellon and had more gbs and cts than Wyckoff who’s out now but sure he sucks. Silly. Their D is so depleted the idea he couldn’t help makes little sense. Has been playing against GT and UD for years.

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:54 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:38 pm Wonder if syracuse has interest and any shot at Prybilski who could be a great bridge for Gait to develop his team with for the future

An overweight defenseman that can’t cover, should fit in great with their current personnel.

Not sure why you are so down on Owen Prybylski. I've watched a bunch of Nova games and he always seemed to stand out. He had 1 goal, 28 GBs and 17 CTs in just 12 games this year. I think there are a lot of teams that would want a guy like that. My $.02

Henpecked wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:52 am

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:54 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:38 pm Wonder if syracuse has interest and any shot at Prybilski who could be a great bridge for Gait to develop his team with for the future

An overweight defenseman that can’t cover, should fit in great with their current personnel.

Not sure why you are so down on Owen Prybylski. I've watched a bunch of Nova games and he always seemed to stand out. He had 1 goal, 28 GBs and 17 CTs in just 12 games this year. I think there are a lot of teams that would want a guy like that. My $.02

He can be a little dirty but Cuse needs some of that without it coming with a case...

Otherwise strong player.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:57 am

Henpecked wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:52 am

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:54 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:38 pm Wonder if syracuse has interest and any shot at Prybilski who could be a great bridge for Gait to develop his team with for the future

An overweight defenseman that can’t cover, should fit in great with their current personnel.

Not sure why you are so down on Owen Prybylski. I've watched a bunch of Nova games and he always seemed to stand out. He had 1 goal, 28 GBs and 17 CTs in just 12 games this year. I think there are a lot of teams that would want a guy like that. My $.02

He can be a little dirty but Cuse needs some of that without it coming with a case...

Otherwise strong player.

Know BB brought in Brad Apgar but love to bring NJ local Prybyiski home to RU. He was high school teammates with Burgdorf . Be a great RU reunion . Stupid comment about being overweight ,Prybyiski is physical and noble as was Kielty, he's established d1 defender who'd help anyone including Cuse but bet BB is pursuing him. Also wish Cuser lsm Kennedy would come home to RU also,, he's terrific but BE wastING his final year there . Would have flourished here last year with Kirst outletting to him. Him and Pryblyiski would be great hi/low tandem. Hope Kirsts are talking to Pry and Khan. Make it happen BB

Khan would be nice at RU.

RURICK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:42 am Khan would be nice at RU.

He and other top Jerseyan players had to notice the impact that the Kirsts made . RU a overtime goal away from Final Four.

Wearing that RU Lacrosse shirt with much pride lacrosse not only the state elsewhere.

Im putting the call out there . Be the NJ kid that puts us over the top.

RopeUnit wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:34 pm Won't Harvard and Princeton be log-jammed across the board? I was under the impression the bulk of the student athletes took the year off and are re-enrolling to keep full eligibility--if PT is the driving force for a recruit, that seems a bit more burdensome than a transfer or two.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:21 pm

smoova wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:06 am

Nassaufan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:35 am It seems all these transfers of experienced college players is making it more difficult for freshmen and sophs to see the field ... leading, in turn, to more transfers.

I wonder if colleges that load up on transfers will find good HS recruits harder to come by?

The 2023-2025 high school players/parents I know are paying very close attention to which schools take/start transfers. I have no idea whether a program's history of taking transfers will absolutely dissuade any kids from committing to DU/Duke/etc, but it is certainly a part of the calculus now.

Those players should look at Harvard, Princeton and Dartmouth…..Won’t have to worry about being transferred over.

My scope of attention is quite Yale specific, and that attention leads me to expect a roster of from 50-54 this coming fall for the Bulldogs (5-9 over what has been the norm over the past few years). The result I expect is increased competition for playing time over the next couple of years which should pay dividends once the drawback of a year without team and game experience is overcome. I would also expect a slightly greater number of drop outs from the program than usual by those disappointed in their lack of playing time during that span, but it wouldn't surprise me to see things return to normal shortly thereafter. The reality is that only about 23 players get meaningful minutes in a normal game regardless of roster size. Being displaced by players of superior talent is a reality for any competitive program whether that be through transfers or new recruits, the question being does organic attrition serve team chemistry better than a mercenary transfer mentality. The answer should become apparent over the course of the next couple of years.

calourie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:06 am

RopeUnit wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:34 pm Won't Harvard and Princeton be log-jammed across the board? I was under the impression the bulk of the student athletes took the year off and are re-enrolling to keep full eligibility--if PT is the driving force for a recruit, that seems a bit more burdensome than a transfer or two.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:21 pm

smoova wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:06 am

Nassaufan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:35 am It seems all these transfers of experienced college players is making it more difficult for freshmen and sophs to see the field ... leading, in turn, to more transfers.

I wonder if colleges that load up on transfers will find good HS recruits harder to come by?

The 2023-2025 high school players/parents I know are paying very close attention to which schools take/start transfers. I have no idea whether a program's history of taking transfers will absolutely dissuade any kids from committing to DU/Duke/etc, but it is certainly a part of the calculus now.

Those players should look at Harvard, Princeton and Dartmouth…..Won’t have to worry about being transferred over.

My scope of attention is quite Yale specific, and that attention leads me to expect a roster of from 50-54 this coming fall for the Bulldogs (5-9 over what has been the norm over the past few years). The result I expect is increased competition for playing time over the next couple of years which should pay dividends once the drawback of a year without team and game experience is overcome. I would also expect a slightly greater number of drop outs from the program than usual by those disappointed in their lack of playing time during that span, but it wouldn't surprise me to see things return to normal shortly thereafter. The reality is that only about 23 players get meaningful minutes in a normal game regardless of roster size. Being displaced by players of superior talent is a reality for any competitive program whether that be through transfers or new recruits, the question being does organic attrition serve team chemistry better than a mercenary transfer mentality. The answer should become apparent over the course of the next couple of years.

Have many players quit over lack of playing time there? I know injuries have led to some attrition but wasn’t sure lack of playing time has been a significant determining factor.

Don’t know how much he would’ve played but know Donald Ahrens had to stop playing because of concussions his FR year. Perhaps a smaller Elsa significant example. He was roommates w Fake for at least 1-2yrs and they are friends I understand.

bananas wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:54 am

RURICK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:42 am Khan would be nice at RU.

He and other top Jerseyan players had to notice the impact that the Kirsts made . RU a overtime goal away from Final Four.

Wearing that RU Lacrosse shirt with much pride lacrosse not only the state elsewhere.

Im putting the call out there . Be the NJ kid that puts us over the top.

Agree. You or Ruprecht should call him on the phone and suggest it…….Never know what might happen.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:45 am Don’t know how much he would’ve played but know Donald Ahrens had to stop playing because of concussions his FR year. Perhaps a smaller Elsa significant example. He was roommates w Fake for at least 1-2yrs and they are friends I understand.

The 3 or 4 I know had injuries.

RURICK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:42 am Khan would be nice at RU.

I thought someone posted a while ago that Khan was to had made his decision weeks ago. Did we miss it?

He’s doing a MaT at Hobart and everyone moved on

AreaLax wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:53 pm

RURICK wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:42 am Khan would be nice at RU.

I thought someone posted a while ago that Khan was to had made his decision weeks ago. Did we miss it?

Was probably Blue Angels promoting a UVA landing. Shellenberger and Moore not enuff for the evil empire , they need to corner the market on talented hybrids to keep alive their three peat hopes.

Wait a second. Rutgers is replacing half their team w transfers and you want more and are complaining about anyone else?

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:27 pm Wait a second. Rutgers is replacing half their team w transfers and you want more and are complaining about anyone else?

Difference is we are the new kids on the block. Dont yet have top twenty players knocking down our doors to get in but winning breeds winning .

RU just has to keep it going until they can legitimately sell itself as a top ten lax power especially with NJ players such as Khan. Once we attain that standing then RU wont need the portal.

Right now Virginia can shop anything south of Pennsylvania without any complaints from me. Lol