Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:26 am
Does partially false mean majorly true? https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN20S2X0
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Where are you getting your numbers....according to the CDC tea total number is 423 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... in-us.htmlDocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:42 am Oh boy ... 752 confirmed cases, with 26 dead. We will hit 1,000 cases within two days. So far, mortality rate has been close to the global rate of 3.5%
Not good. Coronavirus is not anywhere near being well-managed in the U.S.
DocBarrister
JHU is a more comprehensive site as it includes all test results - I believe CDC is only reporting positives from CDC and state/local labs and not those by private labsyouthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:43 amWhere are you getting your numbers....according to the CDC tea total number is 423 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... in-us.htmlDocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:42 am Oh boy ... 752 confirmed cases, with 26 dead. We will hit 1,000 cases within two days. So far, mortality rate has been close to the global rate of 3.5%
Not good. Coronavirus is not anywhere near being well-managed in the U.S.
DocBarrister
Thanks. Are you suggesting local/state labs are not required to report positives to the CDC but they do report to JHU? Seems bassakwards.Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:48 amJHU is a more comprehensive site as it includes all test results - I believe CDC is only reporting positives from CDC and state/local labs and not those by private labsyouthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:43 amWhere are you getting your numbers....according to the CDC tea total number is 423 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... in-us.htmlDocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:42 am Oh boy ... 752 confirmed cases, with 26 dead. We will hit 1,000 cases within two days. So far, mortality rate has been close to the global rate of 3.5%
Not good. Coronavirus is not anywhere near being well-managed in the U.S.
DocBarrister
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboar ... 7b48e9ecf6
Their count this AM is 755
No, The fault does not lay with local / state governments. The fault is the CDC's.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:58 amThanks. Are you suggesting local/state labs are not required to report positives to the CDC but they do report to JHU? Seems bassakwards.Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:48 amJHU is a more comprehensive site as it includes all test results - I believe CDC is only reporting positives from CDC and state/local labs and not those by private labsyouthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:43 amWhere are you getting your numbers....according to the CDC tea total number is 423 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... in-us.htmlDocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:42 am Oh boy ... 752 confirmed cases, with 26 dead. We will hit 1,000 cases within two days. So far, mortality rate has been close to the global rate of 3.5%
Not good. Coronavirus is not anywhere near being well-managed in the U.S.
DocBarrister
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboar ... 7b48e9ecf6
Their count this AM is 755
Appalled but not surprised that the Slimeball-in-chief is orchestrating all this. Disappointed to say the least that the doctors and scientists appear to be playing ball when the consequences could get pretty dire. Everything is going to come out eventually despite trying to use DOJ investigation to intimidate the press. It will never work. This is why criminals all eventually end up in the slammer,jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:16 amNo, The fault does not lay with local / state governments. The fault is the CDC's.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:58 amThanks. Are you suggesting local/state labs are not required to report positives to the CDC but they do report to JHU? Seems bassakwards.Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:48 amJHU is a more comprehensive site as it includes all test results - I believe CDC is only reporting positives from CDC and state/local labs and not those by private labsyouthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:43 amWhere are you getting your numbers....according to the CDC tea total number is 423 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... in-us.htmlDocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:42 am Oh boy ... 752 confirmed cases, with 26 dead. We will hit 1,000 cases within two days. So far, mortality rate has been close to the global rate of 3.5%
Not good. Coronavirus is not anywhere near being well-managed in the U.S.
DocBarrister
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboar ... 7b48e9ecf6
Their count this AM is 755
The CDC decided to only report their own test numbers. They have changed their reporting "protocol" multiple times in the past few weeks for no good reason. They have access to the state numbers. They don't report number of tests they have done. They don't report number of tested not positive. They have all this information. GUESS WHY THEY ARE REPORTING THE SUBSET THEY ARE REPORTING. It is not an accident. You apparently fell for it.
There is another good website that reports the same numbers JHU does, frequently before JHU. https://corona.help/
This site is reporting over 1351 confirmed cases and huge jump in deaths to 48! JHU will catch up (at least they have in the past). PS: Looking at their data, they look like they may be changing reporting format and have a double count problem. DEFINITELY DOUBLE COUNTING. They had been reporting based on county location. Look like they are going to a state based report rather than county based, but currently doing both.
Yup. Everyone should just take Orange Duce's word for it. Only 15 cases!youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:58 am With all due respect, you can see how it is confusing, as I pointed out a few post back. If two media outlets use different venues for reporting data, then which one is truly accurate? Who says the stats on the JHU website are being accurately reported by local healthcare facilities? if there has been complaining and argument over the simple fact that test kits were not available.
JHU72 already has noted a possible double count error by a site. As fast as news travels, that error could lead to escalated hysteria.
That is not what I am saying, can you focus on what I actually wrote.jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:07 amYup. Everyone should just take Orange Duce's word for it. Only 15 cases!youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:58 am With all due respect, you can see how it is confusing, as I pointed out a few post back. If two media outlets use different venues for reporting data, then which one is truly accurate? Who says the stats on the JHU website are being accurately reported by local healthcare facilities? if there has been complaining and argument over the simple fact that test kits were not available.
JHU72 already has noted a possible double count error by a site. As fast as news travels, that error could lead to escalated hysteria.
So exactly what are you saying? What is your solution?youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:14 amThat is not what I am saying, can you focus on what I actually wrote.jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:07 amYup. Everyone should just take Orange Duce's word for it. Only 15 cases!youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:58 am With all due respect, you can see how it is confusing, as I pointed out a few post back. If two media outlets use different venues for reporting data, then which one is truly accurate? Who says the stats on the JHU website are being accurately reported by local healthcare facilities? if there has been complaining and argument over the simple fact that test kits were not available.
JHU72 already has noted a possible double count error by a site. As fast as news travels, that error could lead to escalated hysteria.
Even Sec. Azar when he was looking for numbers last week publically requested the JHU numbers. I wonder if government workers are still allowed to access the JHU website.OCanada wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:32 am The users are voting with their feet. Virtually no institution is trusting the CDC. My sister is VP for finance for a major public university also a major sports power. She does not use the CDC. My daughters spouse is AD at a big nane D—lll school. She is not using the CSC. My niece’s husband work for a German company here. They do not use the CDC. The company I used to work for does not use the CDC . I could list quite a few more I know about personally. None of their cohorts are using the CDC because their reports are not reliable.
You realize the JHU site being referred to is not the Hopkins Medical System web page, which looks much like the Harvard (and every other healthcare system) web site. The JHU site referenced is a system engineering research website. Different purposes.HooDat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:51 am Harvard has a calmer approach to all of this: https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases ... rce-center