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Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:44 am
by Sagittarius A*
+1
The biggest problems with the 2019 defense were the ssdm play and a goalie who couldn’t stop outside shots. That’s a bad combination. Fix those two things and the 2020 defense will improve despite the losses of Foley and Kuhn. Of course that’s easier said then done.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:03 am
by Matnum PI

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:07 am
by HopFan16
Sagittarius A* wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:44 am Fix those two things and the 2020 defense will improve despite the losses of Foley and Kuhn.
This seems to be the general consensus here, that these two losses are not necessarily backbreakers. Maybe I'm overreacting but I think they are potentially both harbingers of doom.

Nevermind Foley's on-ball prowess or Kuhn's transition play (someone mentioned it earlier—he had more goals than DeSimone last season), but these were our two best players off the ground. That's 70 GBs out the door for a team that quite frankly needs to get better in that area (how many times have we said that?). As a team, the Jays collected fewer GBs than their opponents, despite facing off at 54% overall. For those who were paying attention, Foley was quite good on GBs in the second half of the season, and he was absolutely a man possessed in the conference semi-finals against Maryland, when he picked up 8...a gargantuan number for a Hopkins defenseman. When's the last time a non-FOGO guy had that many in a game?

I don't know when or if the defense will improve, but there are ways to make it matter a little less: better goaltending is one, winning faceoffs is another, and picking the dang ball up off the carpet when someone drops it is a third one, and the Jays just lost the two guys who were best at doing that, IMO. I've heard good things about 1 or 2 of the freshmen re: GBs but until they actually show it in a D1 game, it doesn't mean much.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:22 am
by wgdsr
OCanada wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:58 am WDGSR. Sheesh. You claimed my point has been disproven. To make that statement you have to know the point. So go ahead and lay out the case against. That should not be a problem per your claim. You have made wild accusations and unsustainable claims.

MDLaxfan put it succinctly above
sigh. will give you one last chance. you posted a cryptic accusation out of left field per the discussion. not the first time for you, as you know.
OCanada wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:58 am Starsis BTW gave a huge impetus to ER lone before 2011.
i'm fairly sure i know where you think you're going with this, but wanted to give you the opportunity to explain yourself. multiple times. your replies have continued to be cryptic and evasive, but of course did include a helpful definition of impetus.
so... what was the huge impetus lone before 2011?

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:09 pm
by OCanada
You seem to think I am engaging with you. I reread your first reply. Ergo, Isn’t happening. Nothing cryptic about asking you to provide the proof you claim to have refuting an unstated claim you claim to know.

Constructive dialogue I enjoy. You aren’t it.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:29 pm
by wgdsr
ridiculous. but not short of what i expected. just don't expect to be taking shots with your "unstated claims" in the future without retorts and calling you out. have a nice day.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:52 pm
by 51percentcorn
Ultimately you may be proved correct but the Foley/Kuhn losses are not what would keep me up at night if I had trouble sleeping over Hopkins lacrosse. Goalie - SSDMs - and midfield scoring is what would do it. Especially with respect to ground balls. 68 gbs between two defensive starters is not really a lot - Foley did appear to save his best for Maryland sometimes but if you take away his 8 gbs in one game he had 24 in the other 15 - let's just say that's not what got him AA recognition. As far as Kuhn - unquestioned danger in transition - 2.25 gbs per game when you are the #1 LSM is also not the first line on his lacrosse CV. There are LSMs that have 36 in 5 or 6 games. What was the evaluation of Kuhn as a one on one defender? Again, I likely do not have the qualifications to offer a detailed assessment. One perception I have is that whenever anybody wrote something about Kuhn it was with regards to his threat to score in transition not that he was a nightmare for opposing #1 middies.

I also go back to my other point a week or so ago - we have 11 non senior long poles on the 2019 roster (haven't heard that any have left) and we have Jaronski, Finley-Ponds, Rodgers, Ruddy and Fox now on Campus? So taking Colwell/Rapine/Reinson as starters or in Reinson's case #1 or #2 LSM that leaves 13 - let that sink in for a moment - 13 names for 2 slots. And Rapine started as a freshman, Colwell appeared in every game as a freshman, Reinson appeared in every game as freshman and Foley started as a freshman - so why is this departure so traumatizing? If we have 96 ft of titanium or whatever on the sidelines and we can't find 5 guys who can play a little bit for Johns Hopkins then we ought to reconsider the historical importance of the sport to the school.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:43 pm
by Drcthru
Matnum PI wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:03 am Loyola one ahead of JHU. :) http://fanlax.com/fanlax/2019/09/04/d1- ... ince-2005/
Most of that is Peter Brown typing away in his mother's basement :lol:

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:45 pm
by WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus
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Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:33 am
by Peter Brown
Drcthru wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:43 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:03 am Loyola one ahead of JHU. :) http://fanlax.com/fanlax/2019/09/04/d1- ... ince-2005/
Most of that is Peter Brown typing away in his mother's basement :lol:

It's *obviously* too much to ask a Hopkins graduate to actually read an article behind a link (hint: the article that Matnum PI links to is not about 'page count posts', even though the Hounds will smash the Blue Jay's page count posts much like we do on the pitch); the linked article, Drcthru, is about how Loyola has performed better than Hopkins over the last 15 years in lacrosse, as if that isn't obvious to anyone with a pulse. :roll:

By the way, my mom died in a car accident when I was 1 years old. Thanks for pouring lemon juice into my wounds.

JK! She's a stripper at Cheetah's in Atlanta. Check it out one day, and don't forget to tip your waitress.


:lol:

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:39 am
by HopFan16
^Something really off with this guy

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:42 am
by Peter Brown
HopFan16 wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:39 am ^Something really off with this guy

^^^The only known ancestor of humans who had the incapacity to laugh was the Caveman^^^

You connect the dots, folks.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:57 am
by HopFan16
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:42 am
HopFan16 wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:39 am ^Something really off with this guy

^^^The only known ancestor of humans who had the incapacity to laugh was the Caveman^^^

You connect the dots, folks.
Nah, you're just super strange. It's ok though

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:30 am
by Homer
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:33 am the linked article, Drcthru, is about how Loyola has performed better than Hopkins over the last 15 years in lacrosse, as if that isn't obvious to anyone with a pulse. :roll:
Actually this isn't really true either, although the headline might lead you to think so. It's a weighted average heavily slanted toward recent years. About half of the rating is based just on the past three seasons. The whole period from 2005 to 2010, by comparison, only accounts for 10%. So it's pretty misleading to describe it as a measure of what's happened "over the last 15 years," if by that you mean the totality of that period.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:17 pm
by Hail to the Victors
Homer wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:30 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:33 am the linked article, Drcthru, is about how Loyola has performed better than Hopkins over the last 15 years in lacrosse, as if that isn't obvious to anyone with a pulse. :roll:
Actually this isn't really true either, although the headline might lead you to think so. It's a weighted average heavily slanted toward recent years. About half of the rating is based just on the past three seasons. The whole period from 2005 to 2010, by comparison, only accounts for 10%. So it's pretty misleading to describe it as a measure of what's happened "over the last 15 years," if by that you mean the totality of that period.
Hey!

No fair using math in these arguments!

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:16 pm
by Peter Brown
Hail to the Victors wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:17 pm
Homer wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:30 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:33 am the linked article, Drcthru, is about how Loyola has performed better than Hopkins over the last 15 years in lacrosse, as if that isn't obvious to anyone with a pulse. :roll:
Actually this isn't really true either, although the headline might lead you to think so. It's a weighted average heavily slanted toward recent years. About half of the rating is based just on the past three seasons. The whole period from 2005 to 2010, by comparison, only accounts for 10%. So it's pretty misleading to describe it as a measure of what's happened "over the last 15 years," if by that you mean the totality of that period.
Hey!

No fair using math in these arguments!


The dude brings receipts every time. Respect.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:30 pm
by NovaHound
Sorry Hop - Hound fan here but I have too much respect for you and your program, and I bounce around LP just to check out the competition.

Anyway, aside from trying to keep the Loyola page count up to compete with the Best Posters and experts on college lacrosse out there, the past few posts on your site have simply been way too funny - seriously. "Peter Brown typing away in his Mother's basement" That's classic.

You guys are awesome - keep it up.

BTW - I do believe you guys will be an improved team this year for what that's worth.

And now to get back to some Loyola lax :lol:

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:57 pm
by Peter Brown
NovaHound wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:30 pm Sorry Hop - Hound fan here but I have too much respect for you and your program, and I bounce around LP just to check out the competition.

Anyway, aside from trying to keep the Loyola page count up to compete with the Best Posters and experts on college lacrosse out there, the past few posts on your site have simply been way too funny - seriously. "Peter Brown typing away in his Mother's basement" That's classic.

You guys are awesome - keep it up.

BTW - I do believe you guys will be an improved team this year for what that's worth.

And now to get back to some Loyola lax :lol:

There are some brilliant satirists here. :lol:

Johnny Hop fans have called me 'a mom's basement dweller' and 'a trumper' all because I point out that Johnny Hop currently has the 5th best D1 program in the state of Maryland (6th if we include Georgetown).

Good news. You'll always have Navy. You didn’t have Navy, you lost to Navy until Navy went Casablanca on us. You got it back last year. You got a job to do, too. Where I’m going you can’t follow. What I’ve got to do, you can’t be any part of (winning Loyola lacrosse). I’m no good at being noble but it doesn’t take much to see that the problems of three little Hop middies don’t amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world. Someday you’ll understand that. Now, now…here’s looking at you, Hop.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:39 pm
by Drcthru
From the Fall Ball Scrimmages thread:
10/12 – Sat
Villanova vs. Loyola @ Loyola at 1200
Fairfield vs Holy Cross
Albany vs. Army @ UPenn
Albany Hopkins @ UPenn
Albany vs. Penn @ UPenn
Army vs. Hopkins @ UPenn
Army vs. Penn @ UPenn
Hopkins vs. Penn @ UPenn
(probably on 2 games per team)

Re: Johns Hopkins 2020

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:48 am
by HopFan16
IL's recruiting issue is out. Owen Murphy is our only incoming freshman in the top 50 (#12 attackman). A handful of guys in the back half of the top 100. Jacob Angelus moved up to #63 (#16 attackman) after being ranked in the 90s the last couple years. Blake Rodgers dropped from the top 20 to #82 after getting hurt. Not sure what the status of his health is now. Marcille is the 5th ranked goalie. Overall the class is ranked #11 in the country. Lower than usual. Considering how the last few years have gone with top ranked classes, maybe it's not a bad thing. We'll probably only have one class to find out, because in 2020 we'll be back towards the top with Grimes and McDermott, two attackmen both in the top 10 plus defenseman Scott Smith who has moved up to #17 from #51 and is apparently drawing Tucker Durkin comparisons from the IL people. Four other guys in the top 100, including a pair of Canadian midfielders, Peshko and Raposo.