Re: President Donald J. Trump—Part ll
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:29 pm
BBC reporting that spectators informed police when they saw the sniper crawling on the roof.
Same Party, Different House
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Hey, we're lucky they closed the peep shows.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:58 pmYou must be new to capitalism.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:55 pm I am in the center of Times Square.
Not a single video monitor reporting that President Trump has been shot.
The depth of the censorship and propaganda is astounding.
https://x.com/drsimonegold/status/1812269690137293280
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:02 pm “Would any of us—if I thought I had just been shot, the idea of standing up and instantly wanting to signal to the entire crowd that he was okay, and that he was fighting, pumping his fist in the air—there aren’t too many humans that are made this way.”
Martha MacCallum
yup. Shot at from about 1100 feet. Would not have thought anyone could get a rifle that close on high ground. Also the shooter was a 20 year old from western PA - name not released. Also being reported that Trump was not hit with the first shot. To me it looked like the shooter just sprayed the crowd after everyone hit the deck.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:11 pmA fighter? The draft dodger?OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:12 pm In the heat of the moment, at his core--a fighter. Remarkable.
Secret Service has a lot of questions to answer.
Let's hope the investigation into the apparently lax training and preparation of the Secret Service for this event is extensive and thorough. They were obviously not vigilantly alert.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:29 pm BBC reporting that spectators informed police when they saw the sniper crawling on the roof.
And this...OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:06 am No doubt this kind of reckless rhetoric will now have to be toned down. Disgusting. An assassination attempt resulting in a bloodied but defiant former President with his fist raised in the air is the worst possible outcome for those who were grossly irresponsible with their words and message. No doubt, more well-deserved and long overdue scrutiny will now be focused on the Biden administration, talking heads in mainstream media and the entire Left.
https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1812299410660880501
https://x.com/FiveTimesAugust/status/18 ... 8885839308
And of course:OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:32 amAnd this...OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:06 am No doubt this kind of reckless rhetoric will now have to be toned down. Disgusting. An assassination attempt resulting in a bloodied but defiant former President with his fist raised in the air is the worst possible outcome for those who were grossly irresponsible with their words and message. No doubt, more well-deserved and long overdue scrutiny will now be focused on the Biden administration, talking heads in mainstream media and the entire Left.
https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1812299410660880501
https://x.com/FiveTimesAugust/status/18 ... 8885839308
A writer couldn't have scripted it better, KWT (King Wannabe Trump) will ride this right into the Oval Office. If there was any doubt about whether or not he'd be your next President, there (sadly) isn't anymore. He'll ride this bloodied face, fist raised picture right to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Won't be surprised to see this tough guy war hero (between his ears that's what he'll be...and to his cult members too) wearing a Purple Heart earring on the superficially wounded ear (Holyfield's was worse) the next time we see him. I'm truly sorry the shooter missed the mark.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:32 am An assassination attempt resulting in a bloodied but defiant former President with his fist raised in the air is the worst possible outcome for those who were grossly irresponsible with their words and message.
Teddy Roosevelt was shot in 1912 making a stump speech while running for President. The bullet was stopped by a folded up speech and steel eyeglass case in his breast pocket. The idea at the time was the same as this current situation . T.R. lost the election in a relative landslide to Woodrow Wilson.DMac wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:08 amA writer couldn't have scripted it better, KWT (King Wannabe Trump) will ride this right into the Oval Office. If there was any doubt about whether or not he'd be your next President, there (sadly) isn't anymore. He'll ride this bloodied face, fist raised picture right to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Won't be surprised to see this tough guy war hero (between his ears that's what he'll be...and to his cult members too) wearing a Purple Heart earring on the superficially wounded ear (Holyfield's was worse) the next time we see him. I'm truly sorry the shooter missed the mark.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:32 am An assassination attempt resulting in a bloodied but defiant former President with his fist raised in the air is the worst possible outcome for those who were grossly irresponsible with their words and message.
The Republicans will use this under that phrase of never let a good crisis go to waste. What has been overlooked so far is a guy sitting in the stands was killed and several others injured. It will all be political from this point on.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:01 am How about we all tone it all down?
The MAGA message has been that the country is a "disaster" under Biden, that the country is entirely doomed if he wins again, will be overrun by illegal immigrants, crime explosion, commies in control, etc, etc...despite that clearly not being remotely accurate in the very much present tense. But the rhetoric is very, very hot.
Trump's allies have put forth Project 2025, which is indeed a roadmap to a form of fascism. Trump's lawyers argued that he could order Seal Team 6 to kill his political opponents. SCOTUS appears to have at least in part validated or not refuted this, certainly leaving the question open. Certainly made clear that a President could order his DOJ, IRS, FBI, etc to take actions on his political behalf.
So, we could understand a politically motivated assassination attempt of either candidate.
But that's an awful reality which we haven't seen since the attempt on Reagan, and of course, for those of us old enough to recall, experienced so vividly throughout the 60's. Totally deplorable, yet a reality throughout our nation's history.
However, it's not at all clear that shooters are in any way extensions of any coherent political effort, rather they've often been nuts, little men who sought to be big.
We don't know much yet about this particular shooter and his motivations. His shirt suggests a gun fixation, but time will tell. Reporting this AM is that he's a registered Republican but may have made a small donation to a Dem aligned group in 2021. He was just 150 meters away, so doesn't appear to be an expert sniper given the 'miss' and spray of audience.
The big political violence risk is an escalation to levels we haven't seen since the '60's.
As to the political impact, sure, as we see on here, Trump supporters will exclaim as loudly as they can and as frequently as they can how 'tough' Trump is, how he is a 'martyr' for them, blah, blah, blah. And those who despise him will continue to despise him.
I don't think that, but we'll see if, those few undecided will see him as sympathetic the way the country pulled for Reagan when he was in the hospital having been shot. I don't think I nicked ear is the same as an elected President actually on the brink of death and in the hospital 11 days.
But we'll indeed see the Trump Campaign use this to the max...my own prediction is that will ultimately backfire, but we'll see.
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:27 amThe Republicans will use this under that phrase of never let a good crisis go to waste. What has been overlooked so far is a guy sitting in the stands was killed and several others injured. It will all be political from this point on.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:01 am How about we all tone it all down?
The MAGA message has been that the country is a "disaster" under Biden, that the country is entirely doomed if he wins again, will be overrun by illegal immigrants, crime explosion, commies in control, etc, etc...despite that clearly not being remotely accurate in the very much present tense. But the rhetoric is very, very hot.
Trump's allies have put forth Project 2025, which is indeed a roadmap to a form of fascism. Trump's lawyers argued that he could order Seal Team 6 to kill his political opponents. SCOTUS appears to have at least in part validated or not refuted this, certainly leaving the question open. Certainly made clear that a President could order his DOJ, IRS, FBI, etc to take actions on his political behalf.
So, we could understand a politically motivated assassination attempt of either candidate.
But that's an awful reality which we haven't seen since the attempt on Reagan, and of course, for those of us old enough to recall, experienced so vividly throughout the 60's. Totally deplorable, yet a reality throughout our nation's history.
However, it's not at all clear that shooters are in any way extensions of any coherent political effort, rather they've often been nuts, little men who sought to be big.
We don't know much yet about this particular shooter and his motivations. His shirt suggests a gun fixation, but time will tell. Reporting this AM is that he's a registered Republican but may have made a small donation to a Dem aligned group in 2021. He was just 150 meters away, so doesn't appear to be an expert sniper given the 'miss' and spray of audience.
The big political violence risk is an escalation to levels we haven't seen since the '60's.
As to the political impact, sure, as we see on here, Trump supporters will exclaim as loudly as they can and as frequently as they can how 'tough' Trump is, how he is a 'martyr' for them, blah, blah, blah. And those who despise him will continue to despise him.
I don't think that, but we'll see if, those few undecided will see him as sympathetic the way the country pulled for Reagan when he was in the hospital having been shot. I don't think I nicked ear is the same as an elected President actually on the brink of death and in the hospital 11 days.
But we'll indeed see the Trump Campaign use this to the max...my own prediction is that will ultimately backfire, but we'll see.
Any of us who can't see it takes two to tango in this toxic American political cage fight is simply choosing to wear blinders in addition to their rose colored lenses. All day and all night we go round and round seeking to prove one toxic cocktail is better than the other toxic cocktail. In the meantime, both will make us gravely ill. I'll take "Neither party for $100, Alex".kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 7:44 amAnd of course:OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:32 amAnd this...OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:06 am No doubt this kind of reckless rhetoric will now have to be toned down. Disgusting. An assassination attempt resulting in a bloodied but defiant former President with his fist raised in the air is the worst possible outcome for those who were grossly irresponsible with their words and message. No doubt, more well-deserved and long overdue scrutiny will now be focused on the Biden administration, talking heads in mainstream media and the entire Left.
https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1812299410660880501
https://x.com/FiveTimesAugust/status/18 ... 8885839308
Trump 'more dangerous' than Hitler, Mussolini: McCaskill
Former President Trump is “more dangerous” than some of the most notorious dictators in the history of the world, says former senator:
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+1. 100%.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:03 am On another note--and this is merely theoretical--but if a person truly believes that Trump will repeat, even in part, what Hitler did, don't they have a kind of moral obligation to try to take him out? A person doesn't need to be a "madman" or even mentally imbalanced--just deeply convinced that they will be doing humanity a service by murdering a future dictator who could probably be responsible for the death of who-knows-how-many innocent lives. That's why the ratcheted up rhetoric by some irresponsible politicians and media members needs to stop. It is exactly what is being espoused by folks like these which inspires people like Thomas Crooks. Shameful. When is enough, enough?