My top 25

[ICGrad]

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[wgdsr]

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[HooDat]

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[ICGrad]

Very fair. 19 goals 17 saves statistically is not great but he makes big saves and think can be a difference maker for them in tight games.

So they have a rock star goalie and still gave up 19 goals (and 36 shots on goal) against a team that had scored 16 goals in aggregate their prior two contests?

I may have ranked them too high...

[HGK]

Carolina also only gave up 15 goals in their last two games in aggregate. I don’t think now that they gave up 13 in one game their defense is terrible or that their offense just became spectacular. It was a different paced game than Hopkins and OSU. My point was also not in reference to the quality of Cuse’s defense. It was a simple statement - i think they have a very good goalie and an offense that will get better and better. I stand by both comments.

[Farfromgeneva]

My agreements and issues with your poll.

My new top 25 as of 2/26:
1. Virginia - Yes
2. Cornell - Played 2 games and they weren't impressive wins. Too high.
3. Notre Dame - Played 3 games and they weren't impressive wins. Too high. Reminder, until they win a game, G'town is not an impressive W.
4. Maryland - Yes
5. Duke - Yes
6. Princeton - Played 3 games with no impressive wins. Too high.
7. Penn - Played 2 games with no impressive wins. Too high. See G'town above.
8. Loyola - Yes
9. St. Joseph's - Played 3 games with no impressive wins. Too high.
10. North Carolina - A little too high.
11. Yale - Played 2 games and they weren't impressive wins. You have V'nova at 22 so...Why so much love? Too high.

15. John's Hopkins - Too low.
20. Penn State - Too low.
24. Richmond - Too low.

So re: Cornell and ND, who would you move up ahead of them? Maryland, who got pwned by Loyola? Duke, who got beaten by Jacksonville and needed a last-second goal (and OT) to squeak by Denver?

Also, I disagree with you assessments of both of these teams. Lehigh was averaging ~20 goals/game; Cornell shut them completely out for the last 40 minutes. Long stretches of possessions where Lehigh couldn't even get a shot off. Looked like the defense of the NCAA run last year; if their D is really this solid, then watch out when their offense really starts clicking.

Georgetown has been struggling, sure, but ND controlled that game start to finish. I expected a close game but it was no contest from the start.

The Maryland/ND positioning will be decided right quick. Cornell has a couple of big games over the next two weeks and we should know about them pretty quickly, too.

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Joewillie78

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[ICGrad]

Carolina also only gave up 15 goals in their last two games in aggregate. I don’t think now that they gave up 13 in one game their defense is terrible or that their offense just became spectacular. It was a different paced game than Hopkins and OSU. My point was also not in reference to the quality of Cuse’s defense. It was a simple statement - i think they have a very good goalie and an offense that will get better and better. I stand by both comments.

I was only kidding when I said I may have rated them too high. Though I'm only half kidding when I say it is a little concerning that they have a rock star goalie who plays lights-out and they still give up 19 goals.

That said, with Duke and Hopkins coming up in short order, they better clean some things up. 3-4 could be a tough hole to dig themselves out of. Yeah, they follow that up with 3 very winnable games, but they face quite the gauntlet to close out the season. Albany is their best win so far; they really need to add a higher quality win in the next two weeks.

[joewillie78]

My top 25 as of March 5th;
1. Virginia
2. Cornell
3. Notre Dame
4. Duke
5. Loyola
6. Penn State
7. Rutgers
8. Yale
9. Jacksonville
10. John's Hopkins
11. Princeton
12. Villanova
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph's
16. North Carolina
17. Harvard
18. Ohio State
19. Brown
20. Boston University
21. Denver
22. Delaware
23. Syracuse
24. Georgetown
25. Dartmouth

Fire those missles now.
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Joewillie78

[CU88]

My top 25 as of March 5th;
1. Virginia
2. Cornell
3. Notre Dame
4. Duke
5. Loyola
6. Penn State
7. Rutgers
8. Yale
9. Jacksonville
10. John's Hopkins
11. Princeton
12. Villanova
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph's
16. North Carolina
17. Harvard
18. Ohio State
19. Brown
20. Boston University
21. Denver
22. Delaware
23. Syracuse
24. Georgetown
25. Dartmouth

Fire those missles now.
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Joewillie78

Maryland?

[10stone5]

Sorry, Maryland is out
ND are national champs.

[CU77]

I watched all of the Md-ND game, IMO both are playing at a higher level than Cornell.

[CU77]

Sorry, Maryland is out
ND are national champs.

Yeah, they should just be declared Permanent National Champion. Everyone else can play for Runner Up every year.

[joewillie78]

My top 25 as of March 5th;
1. Virginia
2. Cornell
3. Notre Dame
4. Duke
5. Loyola
6. Penn State
7. Rutgers
8. Yale
9. Jacksonville
10. John's Hopkins
11. Princeton
12. Villanova
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph's
16. North Carolina
17. Harvard
18. Ohio State
19. Brown
20. Boston University
21. Denver
22. Delaware
23. Syracuse
24. Georgetown
25. Dartmouth

Fire those missles now.
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Joewillie78

Maryland?

Whoops. Sorry about that. That knocks Dartmouth to 26 as I should have had Maryland at #9.
Sorry to all Maryland fans as obviously you are still a top 10 team.
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Joewillie78

[lorin]

I watched all of the Md-ND game, IMO both are playing at a higher level than Cornell.

Agree

[Farfromgeneva]

My top 25 as of March 5th;
1. Virginia
2. Cornell
3. Notre Dame
4. Duke
5. Loyola
6. Penn State
7. Rutgers
8. Yale
9. Jacksonville
10. John's Hopkins
11. Princeton
12. Villanova
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph's
16. North Carolina
17. Harvard
18. Ohio State
19. Brown
20. Boston University
21. Denver
22. Delaware
23. Syracuse
24. Georgetown
25. Dartmouth

Fire those missles now.
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Joewillie78

Army over Nova, Denver & BU probably should be above Brown and UNC and OSU maybe a little higher.

Should probably put Lehigh in Dartmouth’s spot in anticipation of a Hobart win this Tuesday!

[joewillie78]

Just looked and all teams have played so here is my top 25 as of March 11;
1. Notre Dame
2. Virginia
3. Duke
4. Penn State
5. Rutgers
6. Yale
7. Cornell
8. Maryland
9. North Carolina
10. John's Hopkins
11. Villanova
12. Jacksonville
13. Army
14. Loyola
15. Penn
16. Princeton
17. Boston University
18. Delaware
19. Ohio State
20. St. Joseph
21. Syracuse
22. Georgetown
23. Michigan
24. Dartmouth
25. Lehigh

Throw those spears and stones.
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Joewillie78

[faircornell]

Just looked and all teams have played so here is my top 25 as of March 11;
1. Notre Dame
2. Virginia
3. Duke
4. Penn State
5. Rutgers
6. Yale
7. Cornell
8. Maryland
9. North Carolina
10. John's Hopkins
11. Villanova
12. Jacksonville
13. Army
14. Loyola
15. Penn
16. Princeton
17. Boston University
18. Delaware
19. Ohio State
20. St. Joseph
21. Syracuse
22. Georgetown
23. Michigan
24. Dartmouth
25. Lehigh

Throw those spears and stones.
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Joewillie78

IMHO, good rankings. I do wonder if some Ivies will drop out of Top 20. Good week for former Cornell Head Coaches who are still head coaches.

[CU77]

Maryland is way too low. I'd put them at #4.

[joewillie78]

Just looked and all teams have played so here is my top 25 as of March 11;
1. Notre Dame
2. Virginia
3. Duke
4. Penn State
5. Rutgers
6. Yale
7. Cornell
8. Maryland
9. North Carolina
10. John's Hopkins
11. Villanova
12. Jacksonville
13. Army
14. Loyola
15. Penn
16. Princeton
17. Boston University
18. Delaware
19. Ohio State
20. St. Joseph
21. Syracuse
22. Georgetown
23. Michigan
24. Dartmouth
25. Lehigh

Throw those spears and stones.
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Joewillie78

IMHO, good rankings. I do wonder if some Ivies will drop out of Top 20. Good week for former Cornell Head Coaches who are still head coaches.

I had Both Brown and Harvard in my top 25 last week.
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Joewillie78

[rolldodge]

Villanova much better record and wins than UNC and Hopkins.