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Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:24 pm
by hmmm
Essexfenwick wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:59 pm
hmmm wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:47 pm
Essexfenwick wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:28 pm Congrats to incoming Demma Hall ... USA Today National HS Player of the Year.


https://twitter.com/MarylandWLax/status ... 09/photo/1
Wonder what that is based on.
I think its based on making fans of teams with 8 or fewer national championships furious.
Serious question. Century doesn't play any good teams and lost in the semis of MD Public school tourney to a subpar team. Her numbers weren't astonishing the way girls in the south have that also play bad schedules. There are players with similar numbers playing in much tougher leagues in the IAAM, Long Island, etc. Just curious how that decision was made. Not meant to say she's not a good player. I'm sure she is. Just seems like an odd choice based on this spring's season.

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:45 pm
by Essexfenwick
Probably partly based on her coach saying she’s as good or better than the other great players that have come out of Century. Also her club team is 62-0 with her in it and 5 tournament championships.

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:48 pm
by hmmm
Essexfenwick wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:45 pm Probably partly based on her coach saying she’s as good or better than the other great players that have come out of Century. Also her club team is 62-0 with her in it and 5 tournament championships.
Her club team hasn't won a championship since 8th grade. Are you just making stuff up? They were dominant in middle school.

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:58 pm
by Essexfenwick
hmmm wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:48 pm
Essexfenwick wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:45 pm Probably partly based on her coach saying she’s as good or better than the other great players that have come out of Century. Also her club team is 62-0 with her in it and 5 tournament championships.
Her club team hasn't won a championship since 8th grade. Are you just making stuff up? They were dominant in middle school.

Yeah but 62-0 is probably the best ever. And inside lacrosse has her at #3.

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:08 pm
by hmmm
Essexfenwick wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:58 pm
hmmm wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:48 pm
Essexfenwick wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:45 pm Probably partly based on her coach saying she’s as good or better than the other great players that have come out of Century. Also her club team is 62-0 with her in it and 5 tournament championships.
Her club team hasn't won a championship since 8th grade. Are you just making stuff up? They were dominant in middle school.

Yeah but 62-0 is probably the best ever. And inside lacrosse has her at #3.
Like I said, not saying she's not a good player. She is. Seen her play since she was in 5th grade. Their M&D team was undefeated in 7th grade(which is when the 62-0 was). Just a curious selection based on the season her team had and the competition they play. By comparison the USA Lacrosse player of the year played for St. Paul's School for Girls who beat McDonogh twice by a wide margin, won the IAAM Championship and finished ranked #1 in the country. The Inside Lacrosse HS Player of the Year played for Bayport-Blue Point who went undefeated and won the very difficult Long Island championship. Century on the other hand won 6 games against other Carroll County teams and then lost to Middletown who had not a single D1 commit playing in the game. The stat lines of those 3 girls are similar for the season. Two of them did it against the toughest competition in the country.

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:25 pm
by Essexfenwick
hmmm wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:08 pm
Essexfenwick wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:58 pm
hmmm wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:48 pm
Essexfenwick wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:45 pm Probably partly based on her coach saying she’s as good or better than the other great players that have come out of Century. Also her club team is 62-0 with her in it and 5 tournament championships.
Her club team hasn't won a championship since 8th grade. Are you just making stuff up? They were dominant in middle school.

Yeah but 62-0 is probably the best ever. And inside lacrosse has her at #3.
Like I said, not saying she's not a good player. She is. Seen her play since she was in 5th grade. Their M&D team was undefeated in 7th grade(which is when the 62-0 was). Just a curious selection based on the season her team had and the competition they play. By comparison the USA Lacrosse player of the year played for St. Paul's School for Girls who beat McDonogh twice by a wide margin, won the IAAM Championship and finished ranked #1 in the country. The Inside Lacrosse HS Player of the Year played for Bayport-Blue Point who went undefeated and won the very difficult Long Island championship. Century on the other hand won 6 games against other Carroll County teams and then lost to Middletown who had not a single D1 commit playing in the game. The stat lines of those 3 girls are similar for the season. Two of them did it against the toughest competition in the country.

Can’t help ya. I don’t watch 5th grade girls lacrosse or any high school lacrosse. I figure the Terps just sign number 1 classes as much as they can and then see who rises to the challenge. They have an advantage as the only Lax Royalty in the game and representing the Lacrosse State. They have had a down 2 years but 15 nattys and the dynasty allows them to recruit and sprinkle in transfers like Old Bay and get the recipe right.

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:21 pm
by Essexfenwick
Maryland75 wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:07 am At this point it appears that the defense will be more experienced with the addition of Abby Bosco and Clancy Rheude as well as Tori Barretta returning for her Covid 5th year. There is always the possibility that Grace Griffin could fill the spot that Lizzie Colson performed but that puts additional pressure on the offense which underperformed last year. The addition of Aurora Cordingly is a plus on the attack side as well as Shannon Smith at midfield should also help. The biggest challenge on offense will be the integration of skills and how they blend. This includes returning players like Hannah Leaubecker, Libby May and shaylan Ahearn. I’m sure there will also be some integration needed for their new recruits as well since the incoming class is supposedly stellar. Cathy has her work cut out for her on offense but should have loads of talent to work with. I’m some ways it looks like the 2019 team which integrated Erica Evans so successfully but with more people.

Very promising. Did not know Barretta was back. Griffin, Ahern, May and LBecker are proven. The transfers are proven and the 3 top 10 recruits along with the top defense recruit adds up to a very interesting and dangerous team.

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:35 pm
by hmmm
Essexfenwick wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:21 pm
Maryland75 wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:07 am At this point it appears that the defense will be more experienced with the addition of Abby Bosco and Clancy Rheude as well as Tori Barretta returning for her Covid 5th year. There is always the possibility that Grace Griffin could fill the spot that Lizzie Colson performed but that puts additional pressure on the offense which underperformed last year. The addition of Aurora Cordingly is a plus on the attack side as well as Shannon Smith at midfield should also help. The biggest challenge on offense will be the integration of skills and how they blend. This includes returning players like Hannah Leaubecker, Libby May and shaylan Ahearn. I’m sure there will also be some integration needed for their new recruits as well since the incoming class is supposedly stellar. Cathy has her work cut out for her on offense but should have loads of talent to work with. I’m some ways it looks like the 2019 team which integrated Erica Evans so successfully but with more people.

Very promising. Did not know Barretta was back. Griffin, Ahern, May and LBecker are proven. The transfers are proven and the 3 top 10 recruits along with the top defense recruit adds up to a very interesting and dangerous team.
The top defense recruit won't play this year due to injury. One of the 3 top 10 recruits is also recovering from an ACL injury this past spring. One of the transfers has never played a collegiate game and another played very limited minutes at UNC last year. Could they both be good? Sure, but they certainly aren't proven. Jumping from Albany to MD is a big jump as well. Man you live with some Terrapin red shaded glasses on don't you?

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:24 pm
by Essexfenwick
Bosco was 2nd team all Ivy as a sophomore the team didn’t play this year

Cordingly is Hopkins leading point player. And Cathy is familiar with her skill .

Rheude is the America East defensive player of the year.

Panasini was Ivy League and the team didn’t play but #17 ranked recruit.

Smith played sparingly at UNC #13 ranked recruit.

Not sure which of the 3 top ten recruits potentially won’t be playing next spring after a year rehab from an acl.

Oh yeah , I didn’t mention the incoming goalie recruit set a saves record in the underarmour game … another Meghan Taylor?

With LBeck, May, Griffin,Baretta, Ahern coming back it’s gonna be a lot of fun.

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:25 pm
by hmmm
Essexfenwick wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:24 pm Bosco was 2nd team all Ivy as a sophomore the team didn’t play this year

Cordingly is Hopkins leading point player. And Cathy is familiar with her skill .

Rheude is the America East defensive player of the year.

Panasini was Ivy League and the team didn’t play but #17 ranked recruit.

Smith played sparingly at UNC #13 ranked recruit.

Not sure which of the 3 top ten recruits potentially won’t be playing next spring after a year rehab from an acl.

Oh yeah , I didn’t mention the incoming goalie recruit set a saves record in the underarmour game … another Meghan Taylor?

With LBeck, May, Griffin,Baretta, Ahern coming back it’s gonna be a lot of fun.
Id hope that she set the all time save record. SHe's the only goalie that ever played the whole game since the other goalie on the south was injured. Still gonna get smoked by NW.

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:30 pm
by Essexfenwick
I like northwestern !

It’s only Maryland or Maryland coaches that win it all. It’s just Mother Nature.

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:34 pm
by Essexfenwick
It’s also smart to bring in some underclassmen transfers to strengthen and balance the roster.

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:41 pm
by OuttaNowhereWregget
hmmm wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:25 pm Still gonna get smoked by NW.

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:14 am
by McKeldin45
Nm

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:21 am
by OuttaNowhereWregget
What will it look like if Maryland is to become mighty again in '22? From this uneducated vantage* I say they'll blow through the regular season with 1 loss which will include a revenge win over Northwestern. They'll win the Big 10 regular season and conference championship. They'll get to the NCAA final game.

Spelled out like that--seems a pretty tall but not impossible order considering coach Reese's record of success. I won't be shocked if they do it. It's more likely they won't though.

On another thread it was alleged that perhaps some of the modern (read: Generation Z) players coming into the college ranks are soft, too sensitive, given to whims and may be immune to "tough love" coaching styles. (I don't know if that's the case as I'm not now, nor have I ever been a coach of women's lacrosse.) But if it is the case with some incoming players, how will that affect Reese's success in the next few years?

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*preemptive disclaimer

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:39 am
by Dr. Tact
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:21 am What will it look like if Maryland is to become mighty again in '22? From this uneducated vantage* I say they'll blow through the regular season with 1 loss which will include a revenge win over Northwestern. They'll win the Big 10 regular season and conference championship. They'll get to the NCAA final game.
I'll have some of what you are drinking. Final game? Aint gonna happen. They were 10-7 last year.

I just dont see it, but love your optimism and I have been wrong before.

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:04 am
by OuttaNowhereWregget
Dr. Tact wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:39 am
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:21 am What will it look like if Maryland is to become mighty again in '22? From this uneducated vantage* I say they'll blow through the regular season with 1 loss which will include a revenge win over Northwestern. They'll win the Big 10 regular season and conference championship. They'll get to the NCAA final game.
I'll have some of what you are drinking. Final game? Aint gonna happen. They were 10-7 last year.

I just dont see it, but love your optimism and I have been wrong before.
This is purely a hypothetical, Doc. I'm not saying they'll do this, just that this is what they would have to accomplish for me to consider them a powerhouse again in '22. As I wrote a sentence or two later: "I won't be shocked if they do it. It's more likely they won't though."

I'm in complete agreement. The 10-7 record is a true indication of how good they are. I think they'll improve in '22, but I don't see them making the final game either, maybe not even the final weekend. But I wouldn't bet on it because of Reese. Essentially--I'm giving you a cowards take, seated squarely on the fence. 😉

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:25 pm
by Essexfenwick
Taylor Cummings dominates Athletes Unlimited and crowned first Champion.

https://www.testudotimes.com/2021/8/23/ ... pion-stats


The greatest player in history (3 time Tewaaraton) along with Jen Adams (4 time national player of the year before Tewaaraton given to Women players).

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:49 pm
by Dr. Tact
Essexfenwick wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:25 pm Taylor Cummings dominates Athletes Unlimited and crowned first Champion.

https://www.testudotimes.com/2021/8/23/ ... pion-stats


The greatest player in history (3 time Tewaaraton) along with Jen Adams (4 time national player of the year before Tewaaraton given to Women players).
I think the GOAT (Jen Adams version) won the first Tewwy.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/lacrosse-wome ... osse-honor

Re: Will Maryland be a Powerhouse again in 2022?

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:09 pm
by hmmm
Dr. Tact wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:49 pm
Essexfenwick wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:25 pm Taylor Cummings dominates Athletes Unlimited and crowned first Champion.

https://www.testudotimes.com/2021/8/23/ ... pion-stats


The greatest player in history (3 time Tewaaraton) along with Jen Adams (4 time national player of the year before Tewaaraton given to Women players).
I think the GOAT (Jen Adams version) won the first Tewwy.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/lacrosse-wome ... osse-honor
That's correct. And there was never a time when the Tewaaraton was given to men and not women. There's enough imbalance in men's/women's sports without creating a new one.