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stupefied wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:28 pm Peter Brown either seething or enjoying the lack of respect for Loyola on this ff thread . Hounds winner of Patriot League 5 out of the last six seasons and a quarterfinalist last year before running into PSU. Yes, they lose Spencer and Stover but all indications are they will again be good . Wouldn't call them a outlier but rather overlooked.

Also a quarterfinalist in 2018, losing to eventual champion Yale 8-5 on an ugly, rainy, wind-swept day at Hofstra. Loyola may well be good in 2020, but, well, only four teams make the Final Four.

A couple of random thoughts about the final four:

The NCAA won't permit 2 Ivies in the final four - so you have to pick Yale or Penn or Cornell. PS, I'm hoping my Bears make some noise this year.

I'm a huge fan of Lars add his staff, but let's not forget UVA were the cardiac kids last year. Lots of comebacks that could have gone the other way. They improved as the year went on, though, so I put them in.

UVA, Penn, Syracuse, UMd

DALaxDad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:41 am
The NCAA won't permit 2 Ivies in the final four - so you have to pick Yale or Penn or Cornell.

Huh?

Sure, they shouldn't have positioned Yale and Penn in the quarterfinal last year, but this is a silly assertion.
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Had Cornell beat Maryland in 2018, there would have been two Ivies in the FF. There were three Ivies in the tournament in 2014 and 2015, but all of them lost in the first round both years. 2013 was similar to 2018—had Yale beaten Syracuse (they lost by 1), they would have been in the FF with Cornell.

Back when Princeton was making Final Fours every year, there could have been a second Ivy team in the FF several times, but they usually lost before getting there. (Except in '94, when Princeton and Brown both made it, as I'm sure you'll recall.) If Yale, Cornell, and Penn continue to play well then they will eventually appear in a FF together. There is no conspiracy.

Conspiracy is my story and I'm sticking to it.
I was thinking of last year as well as 2016, when Yale and Brown would have met in the quarters had Navy not upset yale.

Duke and UVA were in same bracket and met in semis after Duke beat ND in quarters. Doubt it was a conspiracy to ensure only one ACC team in finals

So far:
Cooter - PSU, UMd, UVa, Syracuse
Hoodat - UVa, Cornell, Duke, Penn
laxrules - PSU, UMd, UVa, Syracuse
Hop16 - PSU, Yale, UVa, Duke
FannOLax - UVa, PSU, Yale, Syracuse
molo - UVa, PSU, Syracuse, UMd
calorie - Yale, PSU, UVa, Syracuse
DocB - Duke, PSU, UVa, JHU
Dip&Dunk - UMd, PSU, JHU, UVa
stupified - PSU, UMd, UVa, Penn
jersey shore lax - PSU, Duke, Yale, Delaware
Typical Lax Dad - PSU, UVa, Duke, Penn
AreaLax - UMd, Penn, PSU, Yale
BigTom4 - PSU, UVA, Yale, Penn
DAlaxDad - UVA, Penn, Syracuse, UMd

By the final four selections so far, it looks more like UVa and PSU are tier 1
with Yale, UMd, Syracuse, Penn, Duke being the 2nd tier.

Duke, Hop, Quakes, Terps

BigTom4 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:56 pm Seems like there are 2 pretty clear tiers going into the season

Tier 1
Penn State (in my opinion the clear 1a)
UVA
Yale

Tier 2
Maryland
Penn
Cuse
Duke
Hop
ND

I'll go with PSU, UVA, Yale, and Penn for my F4.

This is also exactly how I see it.
My picks are PSU, UVA, Yale and Penn

QuakerSouth wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:15 am Duke, Hop, Quakes, Terps

Ok, I’m actually interested in why you think Hopkins will reach the Final Four. Just seeking confirmation and validation.

Oh, and since I’m also a Penn grad, I think the Quakers are legitimate contenders for the Final Four.

DocBarrister

stupefied wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:28 pm Peter Brown either seething or enjoying the lack of respect for Loyola on this ff thread . Hounds winner of Patriot League 5 out of the last six seasons and a quarterfinalist last year before running into PSU. Yes, they lose Spencer and Stover but all indications are they will again be good . Wouldn't call them a outlier but rather overlooked.

i dont even see this team winning the PL and i'm an avid Loyola fan + graduate... the only indication of how the team will fare this year is the little writeup of the villanova scrimmage, where the middies could virtually do nothing against Nova. If any opposing team defense shuts down lindley and olmstead, its going to be an UGLY game

Cooter wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:16 pm So far:
Cooter - PSU, UMd, UVa, Syracuse
Hoodat - UVa, Cornell, Duke, Penn
laxrules - PSU, UMd, UVa, Syracuse
Hop16 - PSU, Yale, UVa, Duke
FannOLax - UVa, PSU, Yale, Syracuse
molo - UVa, PSU, Syracuse, UMd
calorie - Yale, PSU, UVa, Syracuse
DocB - Duke, PSU, UVa, JHU
Dip&Dunk - UMd, PSU, JHU, UVa
stupified - PSU, UMd, UVa, Penn
jersey shore lax - PSU, Duke, Yale, Delaware
Typical Lax Dad - PSU, UVa, Duke, Penn
AreaLax - UMd, Penn, PSU, Yale
BigTom4 - PSU, UVA, Yale, Penn
DAlaxDad - UVA, Penn, Syracuse, UMd

By the final four selections so far, it looks more like UVa and PSU are tier 1
with Yale, UMd, Syracuse, Penn, Duke being the 2nd tier.

OSU/Cuse/Brown/Maryland

Yale/Duke/Notre Dame/UMass

RumorMill wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:14 pm Yale/Duke/Notre Dame/UMass

Umass is a very good call........so close. Goalie is up for grabs....so

ABV 8.3% wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:15 pm

RumorMill wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:14 pm Yale/Duke/Notre Dame/UMass

Umass is a very good call........so close. Goalie is up for grabs....so

Agree, goalie situation concerns me a bit... but then again a perfect time for someone to step up in net!

PSU/UVA/Yale/JHU

So far:
Cooter - PSU, UMd, UVa, Syracuse
Hoodat - UVa, Cornell, Duke, Penn
laxrules - PSU, UMd, UVa, Syracuse
Hop16 - PSU, Yale, UVa, Duke
FannOLax - UVa, PSU, Yale, Syracuse
molo - UVa, PSU, Syracuse, UMd
calorie - Yale, PSU, UVa, Syracuse
DocB - Duke, PSU, UVa, JHU
Dip&Dunk - UMd, PSU, JHU, UVa
stupified - PSU, UMd, UVa, Penn
jersey shore lax - PSU, Duke, Yale, Delaware
Typical Lax Dad - PSU, UVa, Duke, Penn
AreaLax - UMd, Penn, PSU, Yale
BigTom4 - PSU, UVA, Yale, Penn
DAlaxDad - UVA, Penn, Syracuse, UMd
QuakerSouth - Duke, JHU, Penn, UMd
Spartanslynx - PSU, UVA, Yale, Penn
ABV 8.3% - OSU, Syracuse, Brown, UMd
RumorMill - Yale, Duke, Notre Dame, UMass
Drcthru - PSU, UVA, Yale, JHU

20 entrees so far, Notre Dame finally got picked. No Denvers.
PSU - 15, UVa - 15,
Yale - 9, UMd - 9, Penn - 8, Syracuse - 7, Duke - 7
JHU - 4, Cornell - 1, UMass - 1, Notre Dame - 1, Brown - 1, Delaware - 1, OSU - 1

More blue koolaid drinkers than I would have suspected.

Approximately three more?

I’m glad this thread was started. No need to watch any of the regular season now. Fate has been sealed.

5 votes for JHU to win it all? Some must be rewatching the last two games played agaisnt Maryland.