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Same. Well....to YA, but same point.old salt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:37 pmLook at the date & time of the post.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:28 pm Didn’t you or 6ft post that last week? I thought I saw that already.
Black hole. Time warp. I was in the middle of responding to a post by afan & it disappeared.
Outside of the stupid "defund the police" hyperbole? (This is politics, after all, so I'm fine with that).youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:24 pm https://twitter.com/kimkbaltimore/statu ... 40707?s=21
Very thoughtful.Matnum PI wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:17 am Candid words from Ty Warner. https://twitter.com/_TyWarner5/status/1 ... 8262037504
Sorry, she has no ideas. Look for yourself:a fan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:03 pm I salvaged this great post from YA before it was lost.....
Outside of the stupid "defund the police" hyperbole? (This is politics, after all, so I'm fine with that).youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:24 pm https://twitter.com/kimkbaltimore/statu ... 40707?s=21
Outstanding!! "Get rid of lifelong pensions" is in her twitter signature. (guess what that does? It defunds the police....so she is actually fine doing that)
If I'm in Baltimore, I'd be eager to hear the rest of her ideas. VERY eager. THIS is what I've been talking about, Republicans....new ideas. Get in there and lead...stop whining about "Dems bad", and people will follow.
Brilliant!!! People without employer-provided health insurance should "form associations"! Then they will magically have the "negotiating power enjoyed by large employers"!Any individual, including self-employed individuals, would be allowed to form associations for the purpose of purchasing group health insurance. As proposed by Senator Rand Paul. This allows small businesses that don’t offer insurance and individuals who are uninsured for some other reason negotiating power enjoyed by large employers when negotiating rates. As a private sector solution it would be affordable enough that even in the event of sudden job loss, individuals would be able to maintain their private insurance coverage.
Is that surprising?....and I am pretty certain the criminal opportunists and many of the trouble makers aren’t voting and don’t belong to a political party.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:08 pm General goon and youtube moron Joey Salads actually had an interesting piece on what he saw at a lot of protests:
3 types of people: Peaceful protestors, troublemakers and opportunists.
And fewer police in reply... perfect...kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:59 am Not surprising, but helps confirm the suspicions that many here had that there are plenty of bad actors and opportunists out there. Perhaps far more than we thought.
You mean more police pouting because citizens don’t want them to be above the law.tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:03 amAnd fewer police in reply... perfect...kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:59 am Not surprising, but helps confirm the suspicions that many here had that there are plenty of bad actors and opportunists out there. Perhaps far more than we thought.
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:12 amYou mean more police pouting because citizens don’t want them to be above the law.tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:03 amAnd fewer police in reply... perfect...kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:59 am Not surprising, but helps confirm the suspicions that many here had that there are plenty of bad actors and opportunists out there. Perhaps far more than we thought.
Yep. It's almost as if the people rioting don't want police reforms.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:48 amTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:12 amYou mean more police pouting because citizens don’t want them to be above the law.tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:03 amAnd fewer police in reply... perfect...kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:59 am Not surprising, but helps confirm the suspicions that many here had that there are plenty of bad actors and opportunists out there. Perhaps far more than we thought.
It's made infinitely more difficult to discuss police reforms when there is chaos and rioting occurring in your streets.
yet so much progress was being made pre-"rioting"...Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:48 amTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:12 amYou mean more police pouting because citizens don’t want them to be above the law.tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:03 amAnd fewer police in reply... perfect...kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:59 am Not surprising, but helps confirm the suspicions that many here had that there are plenty of bad actors and opportunists out there. Perhaps far more than we thought.
It's made infinitely more difficult to discuss police reforms when there is chaos and rioting occurring in your streets.
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:31 pmyet so much progress was being made pre-"rioting"...Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:48 amIt's made infinitely more difficult to discuss police reforms when there is chaos and rioting occurring in your streets.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:12 amYou mean more police pouting because citizens don’t want them to be above the law.tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:03 amAnd fewer police in reply... perfect...kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:59 am Not surprising, but helps confirm the suspicions that many here had that there are plenty of bad actors and opportunists out there. Perhaps far more than we thought.
I do agree, of course, that the violence and destruction is counterproductive to actual protests and reform.
Most reform is frozen for now.
This next national election is pivotal to actual reforms being made, not more lip service (from either party) and insults from white supremacists and their Trumpist enablers.
Will the reforms actually happen?
Not if Trump remains in office, that's for certain.
Probably not if the GOP holds the Senate, though possible if Trumpism otherwise loses ignominiously.
Remains to be seen whether this will be sufficiently on the agenda, but I'm betting progress will actually be made.
If Trump "wins", I'll be with the protestors just like in Belarus and Hong Kong.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:09 pmMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:31 pmyet so much progress was being made pre-"rioting"...Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:48 amIt's made infinitely more difficult to discuss police reforms when there is chaos and rioting occurring in your streets.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:12 amYou mean more police pouting because citizens don’t want them to be above the law.tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:03 amAnd fewer police in reply... perfect...kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:59 am Not surprising, but helps confirm the suspicions that many here had that there are plenty of bad actors and opportunists out there. Perhaps far more than we thought.
I do agree, of course, that the violence and destruction is counterproductive to actual protests and reform.
Most reform is frozen for now.
This next national election is pivotal to actual reforms being made, not more lip service (from either party) and insults from white supremacists and their Trumpist enablers.
Will the reforms actually happen?
Not if Trump remains in office, that's for certain.
Probably not if the GOP holds the Senate, though possible if Trumpism otherwise loses ignominiously.
Remains to be seen whether this will be sufficiently on the agenda, but I'm betting progress will actually be made.
Here's another thing I think we can agree on.
If Trump wins, I think there will be weeks of serious rioting all across America, especially in Democratic run cities like NYC, Chicago, Portland, Seattle. It will be very ugly. I also think Trump will launch serious counter efforts to crush it and it will be crushed, you can have no doubt about that. he's held off now, because what better advertisement for him than to see the guy kicked in the head last night in Portland by a BLM guy.
I'd be interested if you believe the rioting would say more about the rioters or more about Trump?