NESCAC

[NNELax]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

[pcowlax]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

Babson is a very good school and an outstanding business program. No one obviously believes it is a top 10 let alone #2 college in the country. There are all sorts of ranking that different organizations do that show wildly different schools high up. This one, as Babson mentions in their reporting of it, newly really emphasizes graduate salaries. For a school that is primarily for future MBAs, this is going to look great and indeed they shine there and this boosts their rankings. They only offer one degree, a BA in business administration. They have a large number of "concentrations" within that to cater to different career goals but completely lack many of the programs available at most top schools. You can concentrate in Finance, mathematical finance or financial planning, but not math. If you can't major in biology, English, history or math at a school, it obviously is not an overall top 10 school in the country. Hell, you can even major in biology at MIT. Babson is clearly a top 10 school for undergrad business education but really serves only that niche.

[NNELax]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

Babson is a very good school and an outstanding business program. No one obviously believes it is a top 10 let alone #2 college in the country. There are all sorts of ranking that different organizations do that show wildly different schools high up. This one, as Babson mentions in their reporting of it, newly really emphasizes graduate salaries. For a school that is primarily for future MBAs, this is going to look great and indeed they shine there and this boosts their rankings. They only offer one degree, a BA in business administration. They have a large number of "concentrations" within that to cater to different career goals but completely lack many of the programs available at most top schools. You can concentrate in Finance, mathematical finance or financial planning, but not math. If you can't major in biology, English, history or math at a school, it obviously is not an overall top 10 school in the country. Hell, you can even major in biology at MIT. Babson is clearly a top 10 school for undergrad business education but really serves only that niche.

And THERE IT IS....Sour Grapes...If it was Williams or Amherst you'd be singing their praises....But it ain't!

[pcowlax]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

Babson is a very good school and an outstanding business program. No one obviously believes it is a top 10 let alone #2 college in the country. There are all sorts of ranking that different organizations do that show wildly different schools high up. This one, as Babson mentions in their reporting of it, newly really emphasizes graduate salaries. For a school that is primarily for future MBAs, this is going to look great and indeed they shine there and this boosts their rankings. They only offer one degree, a BA in business administration. They have a large number of "concentrations" within that to cater to different career goals but completely lack many of the programs available at most top schools. You can concentrate in Finance, mathematical finance or financial planning, but not math. If you can't major in biology, English, history or math at a school, it obviously is not an overall top 10 school in the country. Hell, you can even major in biology at MIT. Babson is clearly a top 10 school for undergrad business education but really serves only that niche.

And THERE IT IS....Sour Grapes...If it was Williams or Amherst you'd be singing their praises....But it ain't!

Just pointing out reality my friend, sorry you can’t handle it. Saying Babson is one of the top overall colleges in the country is like saying Johns Hopkins is one of the top overall athletic departments because of their lacrosse program. You don’t even actually believe this.

[shorelax12]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

Babson is a very good school and an outstanding business program. No one obviously believes it is a top 10 let alone #2 college in the country. There are all sorts of ranking that different organizations do that show wildly different schools high up. This one, as Babson mentions in their reporting of it, newly really emphasizes graduate salaries. For a school that is primarily for future MBAs, this is going to look great and indeed they shine there and this boosts their rankings. They only offer one degree, a BA in business administration. They have a large number of "concentrations" within that to cater to different career goals but completely lack many of the programs available at most top schools. You can concentrate in Finance, mathematical finance or financial planning, but not math. If you can't major in biology, English, history or math at a school, it obviously is not an overall top 10 school in the country. Hell, you can even major in biology at MIT. Babson is clearly a top 10 school for undergrad business education but really serves only that niche.

And THERE IT IS....Sour Grapes...If it was Williams or Amherst you'd be singing their praises....But it ain't!

Just pointing out reality my friend, sorry you can’t handle it. Saying Babson is one of the top overall colleges in the country is like saying Johns Hopkins is one of the top overall athletic departments because of their lacrosse program. You don’t even actually believe this.

Another bored Babson fan trying to gaslight the NESCAC forum. We all know that Babson is a great business program, but the "sour grapes" comment is just silly.

[justanotherperson]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

Babson is a very good school and an outstanding business program. No one obviously believes it is a top 10 let alone #2 college in the country. There are all sorts of ranking that different organizations do that show wildly different schools high up. This one, as Babson mentions in their reporting of it, newly really emphasizes graduate salaries. For a school that is primarily for future MBAs, this is going to look great and indeed they shine there and this boosts their rankings. They only offer one degree, a BA in business administration. They have a large number of "concentrations" within that to cater to different career goals but completely lack many of the programs available at most top schools. You can concentrate in Finance, mathematical finance or financial planning, but not math. If you can't major in biology, English, history or math at a school, it obviously is not an overall top 10 school in the country. Hell, you can even major in biology at MIT. Babson is clearly a top 10 school for undergrad business education but really serves only that niche.

And THERE IT IS....Sour Grapes...If it was Williams or Amherst you'd be singing their praises....But it ain't!

Just pointing out reality my friend, sorry you can’t handle it. Saying Babson is one of the top overall colleges in the country is like saying Johns Hopkins is one of the top overall athletic departments because of their lacrosse program. You don’t even actually believe this.

This is probably the most salient quote and I didnt interpret it as sour grapes at all. Being great at one thing doesnt make it the best (#2) in the country. This is not knocking Babson at all - it is an incredibly amazing Biz school.

Same thing happened last year when WSJ announced they were changing their formulation focusing on student outcomes/expected income and cost to attend and NJIT ended up at #19. NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19. Other schools from last year that were top 50:

-Thomas Jefferson University
-University of La Verne
-University of Utah
-University of Detroit Mercy
-Cal State Northridge
-Marquette University
-Drexel University
-Michigan State
-UC Merced

"Horrible" schools that are ranked lower than 51:

51. UC Berkeley
55. U Chicago
64. Rice
67. Brown
76. UCLA
77. Wesleyan
83. UNC Chapel Hill
84. Bowdoin
89. University of Virginia
99. Johns Hopkins
166. NYU
287. Tufts

Lesson being: Are college costs bloated and maybe too expensive; yes but thats another debate but take any ranking service with a grain of salt. Read the methodology and what they are trying to achieve. Its like if Sports Illustrated put out their top10 colleges ranking and last year had it as: Michigan, Washington, Texas, Georgia, Alabma, Oregon, Fl State, Missouri, Ole Miss, OSU...

[choochooCharlie]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

Babson is a very good school and an outstanding business program. No one obviously believes it is a top 10 let alone #2 college in the country. There are all sorts of ranking that different organizations do that show wildly different schools high up. This one, as Babson mentions in their reporting of it, newly really emphasizes graduate salaries. For a school that is primarily for future MBAs, this is going to look great and indeed they shine there and this boosts their rankings. They only offer one degree, a BA in business administration. They have a large number of "concentrations" within that to cater to different career goals but completely lack many of the programs available at most top schools. You can concentrate in Finance, mathematical finance or financial planning, but not math. If you can't major in biology, English, history or math at a school, it obviously is not an overall top 10 school in the country. Hell, you can even major in biology at MIT. Babson is clearly a top 10 school for undergrad business education but really serves only that niche.

And THERE IT IS....Sour Grapes...If it was Williams or Amherst you'd be singing their praises....But it ain't!

Just pointing out reality my friend, sorry you can’t handle it. Saying Babson is one of the top overall colleges in the country is like saying Johns Hopkins is one of the top overall athletic departments because of their lacrosse program. You don’t even actually believe this.

This is probably the most salient quote and I didnt interpret it as sour grapes at all. Being great at one thing doesnt make it the best (#2) in the country. This is not knocking Babson at all - it is an incredibly amazing Biz school.

Same thing happened last year when WSJ announced they were changing their formulation focusing on student outcomes/expected income and cost to attend and NJIT ended up at #19. NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19. Other schools from last year that were top 50:

-Thomas Jefferson University
-University of La Verne
-University of Utah
-University of Detroit Mercy
-Cal State Northridge
-Marquette University
-Drexel University
-Michigan State
-UC Merced

"Horrible" schools that are ranked lower than 51:

51. UC Berkeley
55. U Chicago
64. Rice
67. Brown
76. UCLA
77. Wesleyan
83. UNC Chapel Hill
84. Bowdoin
89. University of Virginia
99. Johns Hopkins
166. NYU
287. Tufts

Lesson being: Are college costs bloated and maybe too expensive; yes but thats another debate but take any ranking service with a grain of salt. Read the methodology and what they are trying to achieve. Its like if Sports Illustrated put out their top10 colleges ranking and last year had it as: Michigan, Washington, Texas, Georgia, Alabma, Oregon, Fl State, Missouri, Ole Miss, OSU...

Oh, Jesus Christ! What is it with you guys and NJIT?
For a school y’all routinely put down, they’re really living rent free in your heads. (Maybe they are the better institution and y’all are worried )

I find it funny that there is is a constant echo from this community about how “those” rankings are looking at some different metric, and clearly ____ school isn’t among the best in the country. News flash bucko, the ranking you would present to reinforce your biased belief would also use some different metric, but we know already, those would be gospel to you.

There once was a time when these bastions of the upper crust would never even face such comparisons and questioning. Has the once prestigious NESCAC really come to this? Sad, very sad.

[shorelax12]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

Babson is a very good school and an outstanding business program. No one obviously believes it is a top 10 let alone #2 college in the country. There are all sorts of ranking that different organizations do that show wildly different schools high up. This one, as Babson mentions in their reporting of it, newly really emphasizes graduate salaries. For a school that is primarily for future MBAs, this is going to look great and indeed they shine there and this boosts their rankings. They only offer one degree, a BA in business administration. They have a large number of "concentrations" within that to cater to different career goals but completely lack many of the programs available at most top schools. You can concentrate in Finance, mathematical finance or financial planning, but not math. If you can't major in biology, English, history or math at a school, it obviously is not an overall top 10 school in the country. Hell, you can even major in biology at MIT. Babson is clearly a top 10 school for undergrad business education but really serves only that niche.

And THERE IT IS....Sour Grapes...If it was Williams or Amherst you'd be singing their praises....But it ain't!

Just pointing out reality my friend, sorry you can’t handle it. Saying Babson is one of the top overall colleges in the country is like saying Johns Hopkins is one of the top overall athletic departments because of their lacrosse program. You don’t even actually believe this.

This is probably the most salient quote and I didnt interpret it as sour grapes at all. Being great at one thing doesnt make it the best (#2) in the country. This is not knocking Babson at all - it is an incredibly amazing Biz school.

Same thing happened last year when WSJ announced they were changing their formulation focusing on student outcomes/expected income and cost to attend and NJIT ended up at #19. NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19. Other schools from last year that were top 50:

-Thomas Jefferson University
-University of La Verne
-University of Utah
-University of Detroit Mercy
-Cal State Northridge
-Marquette University
-Drexel University
-Michigan State
-UC Merced

"Horrible" schools that are ranked lower than 51:

51. UC Berkeley
55. U Chicago
64. Rice
67. Brown
76. UCLA
77. Wesleyan
83. UNC Chapel Hill
84. Bowdoin
89. University of Virginia
99. Johns Hopkins
166. NYU
287. Tufts

Lesson being: Are college costs bloated and maybe too expensive; yes but thats another debate but take any ranking service with a grain of salt. Read the methodology and what they are trying to achieve. Its like if Sports Illustrated put out their top10 colleges ranking and last year had it as: Michigan, Washington, Texas, Georgia, Alabma, Oregon, Fl State, Missouri, Ole Miss, OSU...

Oh, Jesus Christ! What is it with you guys and NJIT?
For a school y’all routinely put down, they’re really living rent free in your heads. (Maybe they are the better institution and y’all are worried )

I find it funny that there is is a constant echo from this community about how “those” rankings are looking at some different metric, and clearly ____ school isn’t among the best in the country. News flash bucko, the ranking you would present to reinforce your biased belief would also use some different metric, but we know already, those would be gospel to you.

There once was a time when these bastions of the upper crust would never even face such comparisons and questioning. Has the once prestigious NESCAC really come to this? Sad, very sad.

I would hardly call it an obsession...and I think that we all understand how college rankings work. These were simply replies to a somewhat out of the blue Babson comment that was obviously meant to trigger a response.

[gizlax]

Hamilton lacrosse is looking really really good this year. Besides lackluster performance from the defensive side of the ball, specifically D mid #19(slow) and down D #1, they seem to have a solid anchor. Also their FOGOs are apparently mad chill and they're returning some studs. #28 is apparently the boyoyoy and got a lot of work in with now retired Zach Perotto(#4 - offensive player of the year early candidate in 2024) this summer really dialing it in. Also, #66, who was sidelined last season as a freshmen, is looking fit for a strong comeback and may work himself into player of the year talks.

[justanotherperson]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

Babson is a very good school and an outstanding business program. No one obviously believes it is a top 10 let alone #2 college in the country. There are all sorts of ranking that different organizations do that show wildly different schools high up. This one, as Babson mentions in their reporting of it, newly really emphasizes graduate salaries. For a school that is primarily for future MBAs, this is going to look great and indeed they shine there and this boosts their rankings. They only offer one degree, a BA in business administration. They have a large number of "concentrations" within that to cater to different career goals but completely lack many of the programs available at most top schools. You can concentrate in Finance, mathematical finance or financial planning, but not math. If you can't major in biology, English, history or math at a school, it obviously is not an overall top 10 school in the country. Hell, you can even major in biology at MIT. Babson is clearly a top 10 school for undergrad business education but really serves only that niche.

And THERE IT IS....Sour Grapes...If it was Williams or Amherst you'd be singing their praises....But it ain't!

Just pointing out reality my friend, sorry you can’t handle it. Saying Babson is one of the top overall colleges in the country is like saying Johns Hopkins is one of the top overall athletic departments because of their lacrosse program. You don’t even actually believe this.

This is probably the most salient quote and I didnt interpret it as sour grapes at all. Being great at one thing doesnt make it the best (#2) in the country. This is not knocking Babson at all - it is an incredibly amazing Biz school.

Same thing happened last year when WSJ announced they were changing their formulation focusing on student outcomes/expected income and cost to attend and NJIT ended up at #19. NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19. Other schools from last year that were top 50:

-Thomas Jefferson University
-University of La Verne
-University of Utah
-University of Detroit Mercy
-Cal State Northridge
-Marquette University
-Drexel University
-Michigan State
-UC Merced

"Horrible" schools that are ranked lower than 51:

51. UC Berkeley
55. U Chicago
64. Rice
67. Brown
76. UCLA
77. Wesleyan
83. UNC Chapel Hill
84. Bowdoin
89. University of Virginia
99. Johns Hopkins
166. NYU
287. Tufts

Lesson being: Are college costs bloated and maybe too expensive; yes but thats another debate but take any ranking service with a grain of salt. Read the methodology and what they are trying to achieve. Its like if Sports Illustrated put out their top10 colleges ranking and last year had it as: Michigan, Washington, Texas, Georgia, Alabma, Oregon, Fl State, Missouri, Ole Miss, OSU...

Oh, Jesus Christ! What is it with you guys and NJIT?
For a school y’all routinely put down, they’re really living rent free in your heads. (Maybe they are the better institution and y’all are worried )

I find it funny that there is is a constant echo from this community about how “those” rankings are looking at some different metric, and clearly ____ school isn’t among the best in the country. News flash bucko, the ranking you would present to reinforce your biased belief would also use some different metric, but we know already, those would be gospel to you.

There once was a time when these bastions of the upper crust would never even face such comparisons and questioning. Has the once prestigious NESCAC really come to this? Sad, very sad.

Choo Choo: triggered much?

One mention of NJIT and you go ballistic and try to gaslight (the correct use of the word which you used incorrectly before) anyone who may happen to say anything that is contrary to your belief. Reading comprehension is sometimes difficult but I will will reiterate it again for you exactly what I said"

"NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19" - not exactly the cone of shame statement there that you would like to make it out to be
"take any ranking service with a grain of salt" - frankly the opposite of having "bias" bucko

I happen to think NJIT is not a bad school but not #19 and I dont think that is putting them down. They dont live rent free; this was actively discussed this time last year and thanks to you, will be discussed again this year (and yes, that is "gaslighting" you). You are a well known for your opinions getting ahead of your facts; just chillllllllll. You love to throw the word "bias" around alot. Oh the irony...

[laxdad1434]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

Babson is a very good school and an outstanding business program. No one obviously believes it is a top 10 let alone #2 college in the country. There are all sorts of ranking that different organizations do that show wildly different schools high up. This one, as Babson mentions in their reporting of it, newly really emphasizes graduate salaries. For a school that is primarily for future MBAs, this is going to look great and indeed they shine there and this boosts their rankings. They only offer one degree, a BA in business administration. They have a large number of "concentrations" within that to cater to different career goals but completely lack many of the programs available at most top schools. You can concentrate in Finance, mathematical finance or financial planning, but not math. If you can't major in biology, English, history or math at a school, it obviously is not an overall top 10 school in the country. Hell, you can even major in biology at MIT. Babson is clearly a top 10 school for undergrad business education but really serves only that niche.

And THERE IT IS....Sour Grapes...If it was Williams or Amherst you'd be singing their praises....But it ain't!

Just pointing out reality my friend, sorry you can’t handle it. Saying Babson is one of the top overall colleges in the country is like saying Johns Hopkins is one of the top overall athletic departments because of their lacrosse program. You don’t even actually believe this.

This is probably the most salient quote and I didnt interpret it as sour grapes at all. Being great at one thing doesnt make it the best (#2) in the country. This is not knocking Babson at all - it is an incredibly amazing Biz school.

Same thing happened last year when WSJ announced they were changing their formulation focusing on student outcomes/expected income and cost to attend and NJIT ended up at #19. NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19. Other schools from last year that were top 50:

-Thomas Jefferson University
-University of La Verne
-University of Utah
-University of Detroit Mercy
-Cal State Northridge
-Marquette University
-Drexel University
-Michigan State
-UC Merced

"Horrible" schools that are ranked lower than 51:

51. UC Berkeley
55. U Chicago
64. Rice
67. Brown
76. UCLA
77. Wesleyan
83. UNC Chapel Hill
84. Bowdoin
89. University of Virginia
99. Johns Hopkins
166. NYU
287. Tufts

Lesson being: Are college costs bloated and maybe too expensive; yes but thats another debate but take any ranking service with a grain of salt. Read the methodology and what they are trying to achieve. Its like if Sports Illustrated put out their top10 colleges ranking and last year had it as: Michigan, Washington, Texas, Georgia, Alabma, Oregon, Fl State, Missouri, Ole Miss, OSU...

Oh, Jesus Christ! What is it with you guys and NJIT?
For a school y’all routinely put down, they’re really living rent free in your heads. (Maybe they are the better institution and y’all are worried )

I find it funny that there is is a constant echo from this community about how “those” rankings are looking at some different metric, and clearly ____ school isn’t among the best in the country. News flash bucko, the ranking you would present to reinforce your biased belief would also use some different metric, but we know already, those would be gospel to you.

There once was a time when these bastions of the upper crust would never even face such comparisons and questioning. Has the once prestigious NESCAC really come to this? Sad, very sad.

Choo Choo: triggered much?

One mention of NJIT and you go ballistic and try to gaslight (the correct use of the word which you used incorrectly before) anyone who may happen to say anything that is contrary to your belief. Reading comprehension is sometimes difficult but I will will reiterate it again for you exactly what I said"

"NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19" - not exactly the cone of shame statement there that you would like to make it out to be
"take any ranking service with a grain of salt" - frankly the opposite of having "bias" bucko

I happen to think NJIT is not a bad school but not #19 and I dont think that is putting them down. They dont live rent free; this was actively discussed this time last year and thanks to you, will be discussed again this year (and yes, that is "gaslighting" you). You are a well known for your opinions getting ahead of your facts; just chillllllllll. You love to throw the word "bias" around alot. Oh the irony...

Did someone mention NJIT?

[shorelax12]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

Babson is a very good school and an outstanding business program. No one obviously believes it is a top 10 let alone #2 college in the country. There are all sorts of ranking that different organizations do that show wildly different schools high up. This one, as Babson mentions in their reporting of it, newly really emphasizes graduate salaries. For a school that is primarily for future MBAs, this is going to look great and indeed they shine there and this boosts their rankings. They only offer one degree, a BA in business administration. They have a large number of "concentrations" within that to cater to different career goals but completely lack many of the programs available at most top schools. You can concentrate in Finance, mathematical finance or financial planning, but not math. If you can't major in biology, English, history or math at a school, it obviously is not an overall top 10 school in the country. Hell, you can even major in biology at MIT. Babson is clearly a top 10 school for undergrad business education but really serves only that niche.

And THERE IT IS....Sour Grapes...If it was Williams or Amherst you'd be singing their praises....But it ain't!

Just pointing out reality my friend, sorry you can’t handle it. Saying Babson is one of the top overall colleges in the country is like saying Johns Hopkins is one of the top overall athletic departments because of their lacrosse program. You don’t even actually believe this.

This is probably the most salient quote and I didnt interpret it as sour grapes at all. Being great at one thing doesnt make it the best (#2) in the country. This is not knocking Babson at all - it is an incredibly amazing Biz school.

Same thing happened last year when WSJ announced they were changing their formulation focusing on student outcomes/expected income and cost to attend and NJIT ended up at #19. NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19. Other schools from last year that were top 50:

-Thomas Jefferson University
-University of La Verne
-University of Utah
-University of Detroit Mercy
-Cal State Northridge
-Marquette University
-Drexel University
-Michigan State
-UC Merced

"Horrible" schools that are ranked lower than 51:

51. UC Berkeley
55. U Chicago
64. Rice
67. Brown
76. UCLA
77. Wesleyan
83. UNC Chapel Hill
84. Bowdoin
89. University of Virginia
99. Johns Hopkins
166. NYU
287. Tufts

Lesson being: Are college costs bloated and maybe too expensive; yes but thats another debate but take any ranking service with a grain of salt. Read the methodology and what they are trying to achieve. Its like if Sports Illustrated put out their top10 colleges ranking and last year had it as: Michigan, Washington, Texas, Georgia, Alabma, Oregon, Fl State, Missouri, Ole Miss, OSU...

Oh, Jesus Christ! What is it with you guys and NJIT?
For a school y’all routinely put down, they’re really living rent free in your heads. (Maybe they are the better institution and y’all are worried )

I find it funny that there is is a constant echo from this community about how “those” rankings are looking at some different metric, and clearly ____ school isn’t among the best in the country. News flash bucko, the ranking you would present to reinforce your biased belief would also use some different metric, but we know already, those would be gospel to you.

There once was a time when these bastions of the upper crust would never even face such comparisons and questioning. Has the once prestigious NESCAC really come to this? Sad, very sad.

Choo Choo: triggered much?

One mention of NJIT and you go ballistic and try to gaslight (the correct use of the word which you used incorrectly before) anyone who may happen to say anything that is contrary to your belief. Reading comprehension is sometimes difficult but I will will reiterate it again for you exactly what I said"

"NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19" - not exactly the cone of shame statement there that you would like to make it out to be
"take any ranking service with a grain of salt" - frankly the opposite of having "bias" bucko

I happen to think NJIT is not a bad school but not #19 and I dont think that is putting them down. They dont live rent free; this was actively discussed this time last year and thanks to you, will be discussed again this year (and yes, that is "gaslighting" you). You are a well known for your opinions getting ahead of your facts; just chillllllllll. You love to throw the word "bias" around alot. Oh the irony...

Did someone mention NJIT?

Oh boy, somebody woke the sleeping giant out of his summer hibernation...its like Pavlov's dogs with any mention of NJIT

[justanotherperson]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

Babson is a very good school and an outstanding business program. No one obviously believes it is a top 10 let alone #2 college in the country. There are all sorts of ranking that different organizations do that show wildly different schools high up. This one, as Babson mentions in their reporting of it, newly really emphasizes graduate salaries. For a school that is primarily for future MBAs, this is going to look great and indeed they shine there and this boosts their rankings. They only offer one degree, a BA in business administration. They have a large number of "concentrations" within that to cater to different career goals but completely lack many of the programs available at most top schools. You can concentrate in Finance, mathematical finance or financial planning, but not math. If you can't major in biology, English, history or math at a school, it obviously is not an overall top 10 school in the country. Hell, you can even major in biology at MIT. Babson is clearly a top 10 school for undergrad business education but really serves only that niche.

And THERE IT IS....Sour Grapes...If it was Williams or Amherst you'd be singing their praises....But it ain't!

Just pointing out reality my friend, sorry you can’t handle it. Saying Babson is one of the top overall colleges in the country is like saying Johns Hopkins is one of the top overall athletic departments because of their lacrosse program. You don’t even actually believe this.

This is probably the most salient quote and I didnt interpret it as sour grapes at all. Being great at one thing doesnt make it the best (#2) in the country. This is not knocking Babson at all - it is an incredibly amazing Biz school.

Same thing happened last year when WSJ announced they were changing their formulation focusing on student outcomes/expected income and cost to attend and NJIT ended up at #19. NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19. Other schools from last year that were top 50:

-Thomas Jefferson University
-University of La Verne
-University of Utah
-University of Detroit Mercy
-Cal State Northridge
-Marquette University
-Drexel University
-Michigan State
-UC Merced

"Horrible" schools that are ranked lower than 51:

51. UC Berkeley
55. U Chicago
64. Rice
67. Brown
76. UCLA
77. Wesleyan
83. UNC Chapel Hill
84. Bowdoin
89. University of Virginia
99. Johns Hopkins
166. NYU
287. Tufts

Lesson being: Are college costs bloated and maybe too expensive; yes but thats another debate but take any ranking service with a grain of salt. Read the methodology and what they are trying to achieve. Its like if Sports Illustrated put out their top10 colleges ranking and last year had it as: Michigan, Washington, Texas, Georgia, Alabma, Oregon, Fl State, Missouri, Ole Miss, OSU...

Oh, Jesus Christ! What is it with you guys and NJIT?
For a school y’all routinely put down, they’re really living rent free in your heads. (Maybe they are the better institution and y’all are worried )

I find it funny that there is is a constant echo from this community about how “those” rankings are looking at some different metric, and clearly ____ school isn’t among the best in the country. News flash bucko, the ranking you would present to reinforce your biased belief would also use some different metric, but we know already, those would be gospel to you.

There once was a time when these bastions of the upper crust would never even face such comparisons and questioning. Has the once prestigious NESCAC really come to this? Sad, very sad.

Choo Choo: triggered much?

One mention of NJIT and you go ballistic and try to gaslight (the correct use of the word which you used incorrectly before) anyone who may happen to say anything that is contrary to your belief. Reading comprehension is sometimes difficult but I will will reiterate it again for you exactly what I said"

"NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19" - not exactly the cone of shame statement there that you would like to make it out to be
"take any ranking service with a grain of salt" - frankly the opposite of having "bias" bucko

I happen to think NJIT is not a bad school but not #19 and I dont think that is putting them down. They dont live rent free; this was actively discussed this time last year and thanks to you, will be discussed again this year (and yes, that is "gaslighting" you). You are a well known for your opinions getting ahead of your facts; just chillllllllll. You love to throw the word "bias" around alot. Oh the irony...

Did someone mention NJIT?

hahaha. Good one laxdad.

[justanotherperson]

I the original discussion of where prep school players end up was in another forum (Tufts?) but I did the 2024 analysis on the NEW1 Prep School Destination (cross posted in that forum). For 2024's, there were 197 "listed" varsity NEW1 players that I have on record and this is the distribution of schools they attended. This is not an indictment on what schools are better than others but you can see a pattern of where prep school players may end up. I didnt do ISL but I suspect it will be the same (cant compete with laxxal22's excellent work) and the 2024 class went to some great schools. I dont know how accurate my data is but here goes and kudos to all 24'a who committed somewhere, its a big achievement:

197 listed varsity players
-79 (40.1%) uncommitted (I did not dig deep into these to figure out if the eschewed lacrosse for a "top" academic school. Some committed for other sports as well)
-69 (35.0%) D1 - (48 (69.6%) went to Ivy / Patriot / ACC / B10)
-7 (3.6%) D2
-42 (21.3%) D3 - (16 (38.1%) went to NESCAC, 10 (23.8%) - LIberty, 1-MIT, 7 to Kenyon/Oberlin/Gettysburg/Denison/Colorado College)

Air Force
Amherst (2)
Army
Bates
Bentley
Boston University (2)
Bowdoin
Brown (3)
Bryant
Catholic
Clark
Clarkson
Cleveland State
Colby
Colgate (4)
Colorado College
Connecticut College
Cornell (2)
Dartmouth (3)
Denison
Denver
Drexel
Fairfield
Georgetown (4)
Gettysburg (3)
Harvard (2)
High Point
Hofstra
Holy Cross (3)
Iona (2)
Jacksonville
Johns Hopkins (2)
Kenyon
Lafayette
Loyola
Lynchburg
Marist
Michigan (2)
Middlebury
MIT
Navy (2)
North Carolina (2)
Notre Dame
Oberlin
Ohio State
Ohio Wesleyan
Penn (2)
Princeton (2)
Providence
Quinnipiac
Richmond
RIT
Robert Morris
Rutgers (2)
Saint Lawrence (4)
Salisbury
Skidmore (2)
Syracuse (2)
Tampa (2)
Towson
Trinity (3)
Tufts (3)
U of Indianapolis
U of Massachusetts (3)
Union (2)
Ursinus
Vermont (2)
Virginia (3)
Wentworth
Wesleyan
Western New England
Wilkes
Williams (2)
Yale (2)

Finally, this may be controversial but I did notice for the NEW1 schools, depending on how they are (correction:academically) ranked via Niche (whos methodology remains suspect), the distribution of the colleges slightly changed (with Kent and Wick as outliers) from top to bottom. This is not to validate prep school rankings nor is it an indictment on which prep school is better because out of 4546 prep schools they are all pretty darn good; just an observation. Niche academic rankings as follows:

#9 Choate
#22 Hotchkiss
#33 Deerfield
#35 Loomis
#51 Taft
#94 NMH
#115 Kent
#373 Avon Old Farms
#380 Salisbury
#399 Westminster
#407 Berkshire
#633 Trinity Pawling
NR Brunswick

[choochooCharlie]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

Babson is a very good school and an outstanding business program. No one obviously believes it is a top 10 let alone #2 college in the country. There are all sorts of ranking that different organizations do that show wildly different schools high up. This one, as Babson mentions in their reporting of it, newly really emphasizes graduate salaries. For a school that is primarily for future MBAs, this is going to look great and indeed they shine there and this boosts their rankings. They only offer one degree, a BA in business administration. They have a large number of "concentrations" within that to cater to different career goals but completely lack many of the programs available at most top schools. You can concentrate in Finance, mathematical finance or financial planning, but not math. If you can't major in biology, English, history or math at a school, it obviously is not an overall top 10 school in the country. Hell, you can even major in biology at MIT. Babson is clearly a top 10 school for undergrad business education but really serves only that niche.

And THERE IT IS....Sour Grapes...If it was Williams or Amherst you'd be singing their praises....But it ain't!

Just pointing out reality my friend, sorry you can’t handle it. Saying Babson is one of the top overall colleges in the country is like saying Johns Hopkins is one of the top overall athletic departments because of their lacrosse program. You don’t even actually believe this.

This is probably the most salient quote and I didnt interpret it as sour grapes at all. Being great at one thing doesnt make it the best (#2) in the country. This is not knocking Babson at all - it is an incredibly amazing Biz school.

Same thing happened last year when WSJ announced they were changing their formulation focusing on student outcomes/expected income and cost to attend and NJIT ended up at #19. NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19. Other schools from last year that were top 50:

-Thomas Jefferson University
-University of La Verne
-University of Utah
-University of Detroit Mercy
-Cal State Northridge
-Marquette University
-Drexel University
-Michigan State
-UC Merced

"Horrible" schools that are ranked lower than 51:

51. UC Berkeley
55. U Chicago
64. Rice
67. Brown
76. UCLA
77. Wesleyan
83. UNC Chapel Hill
84. Bowdoin
89. University of Virginia
99. Johns Hopkins
166. NYU
287. Tufts

Lesson being: Are college costs bloated and maybe too expensive; yes but thats another debate but take any ranking service with a grain of salt. Read the methodology and what they are trying to achieve. Its like if Sports Illustrated put out their top10 colleges ranking and last year had it as: Michigan, Washington, Texas, Georgia, Alabma, Oregon, Fl State, Missouri, Ole Miss, OSU...

Oh, Jesus Christ! What is it with you guys and NJIT?
For a school y’all routinely put down, they’re really living rent free in your heads. (Maybe they are the better institution and y’all are worried )

I find it funny that there is is a constant echo from this community about how “those” rankings are looking at some different metric, and clearly ____ school isn’t among the best in the country. News flash bucko, the ranking you would present to reinforce your biased belief would also use some different metric, but we know already, those would be gospel to you.

There once was a time when these bastions of the upper crust would never even face such comparisons and questioning. Has the once prestigious NESCAC really come to this? Sad, very sad.

Choo Choo: triggered much?

One mention of NJIT and you go ballistic and try to gaslight (the correct use of the word which you used incorrectly before) anyone who may happen to say anything that is contrary to your belief. Reading comprehension is sometimes difficult but I will will reiterate it again for you exactly what I said"

"NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19" - not exactly the cone of shame statement there that you would like to make it out to be
"take any ranking service with a grain of salt" - frankly the opposite of having "bias" bucko

I happen to think NJIT is not a bad school but not #19 and I dont think that is putting them down. They dont live rent free; this was actively discussed this time last year and thanks to you, will be discussed again this year (and yes, that is "gaslighting" you). You are a well known for your opinions getting ahead of your facts; just chillllllllll. You love to throw the word "bias" around alot. Oh the irony...

Y’all brought up NJIT right outta the blue, not me pal, and that’s strange. But by all means, gaslight away, you got a complex brah.

You’re right. NJIT is a great alternative to some of the more archaic schools discussed herein. And at #19 nationally WSJ, along with a DI lacrosse program that received poll votes last year, they will only continue to grab more recruits from them.

Lay your peepers on this Mr Reading Comprehension https://njithighlanders.com/news/2024/8 ... -year.aspx
Rent free bucko.

[laxwizard9]

I the original discussion of where prep school players end up was in another forum (Tufts?) but I did the 2024 analysis on the NEW1 Prep School Destination (cross posted in that forum). For 2024's, there were 197 "listed" varsity NEW1 players that I have on record and this is the distribution of schools they attended. This is not an indictment on what schools are better than others but you can see a pattern of where prep school players may end up. I didnt do ISL but I suspect it will be the same (cant compete with laxxal22's excellent work) and the 2024 class went to some great schools. I dont know how accurate my data is but here goes and kudos to all 24'a who committed somewhere, its a big achievement:

197 listed varsity players
-79 (40.1%) uncommitted (I did not dig deep into these to figure out if the eschewed lacrosse for a "top" academic school. Some committed for other sports as well)
-69 (35.0%) D1 - (48 (69.6%) went to Ivy / Patriot / ACC / B10)
-7 (3.6%) D2
-42 (21.3%) D3 - (16 (38.1%) went to NESCAC, 10 (23.8%) - LIberty, 1-MIT, 7 to Kenyon/Oberlin/Gettysburg/Denison/Colorado College)

Air Force
Amherst (2)
Army
Bates
Bentley
Boston University (2)
Bowdoin
Brown (3)
Bryant
Catholic
Clark
Clarkson
Cleveland State
Colby
Colgate (4)
Colorado College
Connecticut College
Cornell (2)
Dartmouth (3)
Denison
Denver
Drexel
Fairfield
Georgetown (4)
Gettysburg (3)
Harvard (2)
High Point
Hofstra
Holy Cross (3)
Iona (2)
Jacksonville
Johns Hopkins (2)
Kenyon
Lafayette
Loyola
Lynchburg
Marist
Michigan (2)
Middlebury
MIT
Navy (2)
North Carolina (2)
Notre Dame
Oberlin
Ohio State
Ohio Wesleyan
Penn (2)
Princeton (2)
Providence
Quinnipiac
Richmond
RIT
Robert Morris
Rutgers (2)
Saint Lawrence (4)
Salisbury
Skidmore (2)
Syracuse (2)
Tampa (2)
Towson
Trinity (3)
Tufts (3)
U of Indianapolis
U of Massachusetts (3)
Union (2)
Ursinus
Vermont (2)
Virginia (3)
Wentworth
Wesleyan
Western New England
Wilkes
Williams (2)
Yale (2)

Finally, this may be controversial but I did notice for the NEW1 schools, depending on how they are ranked, the distribution of the colleges slightly changed (with Kent and Wick as outliers) from top to bottom. This is not to validate prep school rankings nor is it an indictment on which prep school is better because out of 4546 prep schools they are all pretty darn good; just an observation. Niche rankings as follows:

#9 Choate
#22 Hotchkiss
#33 Deerfield
#35 Loomis
#51 Taft
#94 NMH
#115 Kent
#373 Avon Old Farms
#380 Salisbury
#399 Westminster
#407 Berkshire
#633 Trinity Pawling
NR Brunswick

Trinity pawling has put out an absurd amount of recruits in the last year. I see them being a prep school that is a power house in college lacrosse recruiting. CK ginacola is a TP guy and is the top of a massive list. AOF has fallen off recently and I believe they will be at the bottom of this list soon. Be prepared to see loomis at the top of this list, Bill Ball has done some incredible things.

[pcowlax]

I the original discussion of where prep school players end up was in another forum (Tufts?) but I did the 2024 analysis on the NEW1 Prep School Destination (cross posted in that forum). For 2024's, there were 197 "listed" varsity NEW1 players that I have on record and this is the distribution of schools they attended. This is not an indictment on what schools are better than others but you can see a pattern of where prep school players may end up. I didnt do ISL but I suspect it will be the same (cant compete with laxxal22's excellent work) and the 2024 class went to some great schools. I dont know how accurate my data is but here goes and kudos to all 24'a who committed somewhere, its a big achievement:

197 listed varsity players
-79 (40.1%) uncommitted (I did not dig deep into these to figure out if the eschewed lacrosse for a "top" academic school. Some committed for other sports as well)
-69 (35.0%) D1 - (48 (69.6%) went to Ivy / Patriot / ACC / B10)
-7 (3.6%) D2
-42 (21.3%) D3 - (16 (38.1%) went to NESCAC, 10 (23.8%) - LIberty, 1-MIT, 7 to Kenyon/Oberlin/Gettysburg/Denison/Colorado College)

Air Force
Amherst (2)
Army
Bates
Bentley
Boston University (2)
Bowdoin
Brown (3)
Bryant
Catholic
Clark
Clarkson
Cleveland State
Colby
Colgate (4)
Colorado College
Connecticut College
Cornell (2)
Dartmouth (3)
Denison
Denver
Drexel
Fairfield
Georgetown (4)
Gettysburg (3)
Harvard (2)
High Point
Hofstra
Holy Cross (3)
Iona (2)
Jacksonville
Johns Hopkins (2)
Kenyon
Lafayette
Loyola
Lynchburg
Marist
Michigan (2)
Middlebury
MIT
Navy (2)
North Carolina (2)
Notre Dame
Oberlin
Ohio State
Ohio Wesleyan
Penn (2)
Princeton (2)
Providence
Quinnipiac
Richmond
RIT
Robert Morris
Rutgers (2)
Saint Lawrence (4)
Salisbury
Skidmore (2)
Syracuse (2)
Tampa (2)
Towson
Trinity (3)
Tufts (3)
U of Indianapolis
U of Massachusetts (3)
Union (2)
Ursinus
Vermont (2)
Virginia (3)
Wentworth
Wesleyan
Western New England
Wilkes
Williams (2)
Yale (2)

Finally, this may be controversial but I did notice for the NEW1 schools, depending on how they are ranked, the distribution of the colleges slightly changed (with Kent and Wick as outliers) from top to bottom. This is not to validate prep school rankings nor is it an indictment on which prep school is better because out of 4546 prep schools they are all pretty darn good; just an observation. Niche rankings as follows:

#9 Choate
#22 Hotchkiss
#33 Deerfield
#35 Loomis
#51 Taft
#94 NMH
#115 Kent
#373 Avon Old Farms
#380 Salisbury
#399 Westminster
#407 Berkshire
#633 Trinity Pawling
NR Brunswick

I may have missed it. What are these prep school rankings from? Some academic profile?

[NNELax]

I the original discussion of where prep school players end up was in another forum (Tufts?) but I did the 2024 analysis on the NEW1 Prep School Destination (cross posted in that forum). For 2024's, there were 197 "listed" varsity NEW1 players that I have on record and this is the distribution of schools they attended. This is not an indictment on what schools are better than others but you can see a pattern of where prep school players may end up. I didnt do ISL but I suspect it will be the same (cant compete with laxxal22's excellent work) and the 2024 class went to some great schools. I dont know how accurate my data is but here goes and kudos to all 24'a who committed somewhere, its a big achievement:

197 listed varsity players
-79 (40.1%) uncommitted (I did not dig deep into these to figure out if the eschewed lacrosse for a "top" academic school. Some committed for other sports as well)
-69 (35.0%) D1 - (48 (69.6%) went to Ivy / Patriot / ACC / B10)
-7 (3.6%) D2
-42 (21.3%) D3 - (16 (38.1%) went to NESCAC, 10 (23.8%) - LIberty, 1-MIT, 7 to Kenyon/Oberlin/Gettysburg/Denison/Colorado College)

Air Force
Amherst (2)
Army
Bates
Bentley
Boston University (2)
Bowdoin
Brown (3)
Bryant
Catholic
Clark
Clarkson
Cleveland State
Colby
Colgate (4)
Colorado College
Connecticut College
Cornell (2)
Dartmouth (3)
Denison
Denver
Drexel
Fairfield
Georgetown (4)
Gettysburg (3)
Harvard (2)
High Point
Hofstra
Holy Cross (3)
Iona (2)
Jacksonville
Johns Hopkins (2)
Kenyon
Lafayette
Loyola
Lynchburg
Marist
Michigan (2)
Middlebury
MIT
Navy (2)
North Carolina (2)
Notre Dame
Oberlin
Ohio State
Ohio Wesleyan
Penn (2)
Princeton (2)
Providence
Quinnipiac
Richmond
RIT
Robert Morris
Rutgers (2)
Saint Lawrence (4)
Salisbury
Skidmore (2)
Syracuse (2)
Tampa (2)
Towson
Trinity (3)
Tufts (3)
U of Indianapolis
U of Massachusetts (3)
Union (2)
Ursinus
Vermont (2)
Virginia (3)
Wentworth
Wesleyan
Western New England
Wilkes
Williams (2)
Yale (2)

Finally, this may be controversial but I did notice for the NEW1 schools, depending on how they are ranked, the distribution of the colleges slightly changed (with Kent and Wick as outliers) from top to bottom. This is not to validate prep school rankings nor is it an indictment on which prep school is better because out of 4546 prep schools they are all pretty darn good; just an observation. Niche rankings as follows:

#9 Choate
#22 Hotchkiss
#33 Deerfield
#35 Loomis
#51 Taft
#94 NMH
#115 Kent
#373 Avon Old Farms
#380 Salisbury
#399 Westminster
#407 Berkshire
#633 Trinity Pawling
NR Brunswick

I may have missed it. What are these prep school rankings from? Some academic profile?

Where is the feigned outrage for this list? O yeah it must have something on it that fits your agenda.....

[laxdad1434]

The 2025 Best Colleges in the U.S.: Princeton, Babson and Stanford Take the Top 3 Spots... https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/w ... os1&page=1

For the Babson isn't elite crowd....

Babson is a very good school and an outstanding business program. No one obviously believes it is a top 10 let alone #2 college in the country. There are all sorts of ranking that different organizations do that show wildly different schools high up. This one, as Babson mentions in their reporting of it, newly really emphasizes graduate salaries. For a school that is primarily for future MBAs, this is going to look great and indeed they shine there and this boosts their rankings. They only offer one degree, a BA in business administration. They have a large number of "concentrations" within that to cater to different career goals but completely lack many of the programs available at most top schools. You can concentrate in Finance, mathematical finance or financial planning, but not math. If you can't major in biology, English, history or math at a school, it obviously is not an overall top 10 school in the country. Hell, you can even major in biology at MIT. Babson is clearly a top 10 school for undergrad business education but really serves only that niche.

And THERE IT IS....Sour Grapes...If it was Williams or Amherst you'd be singing their praises....But it ain't!

Just pointing out reality my friend, sorry you can’t handle it. Saying Babson is one of the top overall colleges in the country is like saying Johns Hopkins is one of the top overall athletic departments because of their lacrosse program. You don’t even actually believe this.

This is probably the most salient quote and I didnt interpret it as sour grapes at all. Being great at one thing doesnt make it the best (#2) in the country. This is not knocking Babson at all - it is an incredibly amazing Biz school.

Same thing happened last year when WSJ announced they were changing their formulation focusing on student outcomes/expected income and cost to attend and NJIT ended up at #19. NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19. Other schools from last year that were top 50:

-Thomas Jefferson University
-University of La Verne
-University of Utah
-University of Detroit Mercy
-Cal State Northridge
-Marquette University
-Drexel University
-Michigan State
-UC Merced

"Horrible" schools that are ranked lower than 51:

51. UC Berkeley
55. U Chicago
64. Rice
67. Brown
76. UCLA
77. Wesleyan
83. UNC Chapel Hill
84. Bowdoin
89. University of Virginia
99. Johns Hopkins
166. NYU
287. Tufts

Lesson being: Are college costs bloated and maybe too expensive; yes but thats another debate but take any ranking service with a grain of salt. Read the methodology and what they are trying to achieve. Its like if Sports Illustrated put out their top10 colleges ranking and last year had it as: Michigan, Washington, Texas, Georgia, Alabma, Oregon, Fl State, Missouri, Ole Miss, OSU...

Oh, Jesus Christ! What is it with you guys and NJIT?
For a school y’all routinely put down, they’re really living rent free in your heads. (Maybe they are the better institution and y’all are worried )

I find it funny that there is is a constant echo from this community about how “those” rankings are looking at some different metric, and clearly ____ school isn’t among the best in the country. News flash bucko, the ranking you would present to reinforce your biased belief would also use some different metric, but we know already, those would be gospel to you.

There once was a time when these bastions of the upper crust would never even face such comparisons and questioning. Has the once prestigious NESCAC really come to this? Sad, very sad.

Choo Choo: triggered much?

One mention of NJIT and you go ballistic and try to gaslight (the correct use of the word which you used incorrectly before) anyone who may happen to say anything that is contrary to your belief. Reading comprehension is sometimes difficult but I will will reiterate it again for you exactly what I said"

"NJIT is not a bad school but it isnt #19" - not exactly the cone of shame statement there that you would like to make it out to be
"take any ranking service with a grain of salt" - frankly the opposite of having "bias" bucko

I happen to think NJIT is not a bad school but not #19 and I dont think that is putting them down. They dont live rent free; this was actively discussed this time last year and thanks to you, will be discussed again this year (and yes, that is "gaslighting" you). You are a well known for your opinions getting ahead of your facts; just chillllllllll. You love to throw the word "bias" around alot. Oh the irony...

Y’all brought up NJIT right outta the blue, not me pal, and that’s strange. But by all means, gaslight away, you got a complex brah.

You’re right. NJIT is a great alternative to some of the more archaic schools discussed herein. And at #19 nationally WSJ, along with a DI lacrosse program that received poll votes last year, they will only continue to grab more recruits from them.

Lay your peepers on this Mr Reading Comprehension https://njithighlanders.com/news/2024/8 ... -year.aspx
Rent free bucko.

Yep

[justanotherperson]

pcowlax - my apologies. Yes these are are academic rankings, not lacrosse rankings courtesy via Niche who's methodology remaisn suspect but is the only "rankng" service for prep schools

NNElax ????? Conspiracy much? I have no idea what you are talking about except the disclaimer that people may try to look into this list deeper than it is which I guess you did.