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Kismet wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:08 pm Then there's this today from Afghanistan (where we are supposed to be leaving shortly)...a reminder these were th epeople DOPUS was considering inviting to Camp David.

They would not have survived the helo flight from Dulles to Camp David.

...& when you smack talk about Trump in Afghanistan, you forget how Obama surged us to 100k troops there, while undermining the operation by annoucning they'd leave before our next election.
https://www.npr.org/2016/07/06/48497929 ... nder-obama

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:43 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:08 pm Then there's this today from Afghanistan (where we are supposed to be leaving shortly)...a reminder these were th epeople DOPUS was considering inviting to Camp David.

They would not have survived the helo flight from Dulles to Camp David.

...& when you smack talk about Trump in Afghanistan, you forget how Obama surged us to 100k troops there, while undermining the operation by annoucning they'd leave before our next election.
https://www.npr.org/2016/07/06/48497929 ... nder-obama

Why does it need to be a partisan response? It’s fair to say that it was an idiotic idea to invite the Taliban to Camp David. Doesn’t matter which idiot had that idea or from what party. The only relevant aspect is that he’s still got the job.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:43 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:08 pm Then there's this today from Afghanistan (where we are supposed to be leaving shortly)...a reminder these were th epeople DOPUS was considering inviting to Camp David.

They would not have survived the helo flight from Dulles to Camp David.

...& when you smack talk about Trump in Afghanistan, you forget how Obama surged us to 100k troops there, while undermining the operation by annoucning they'd leave before our next election.
https://www.npr.org/2016/07/06/48497929 ... nder-obama

Why does it need to be a partisan response? It’s fair to say that it was an idiotic idea to invite the Taliban to Camp David. Doesn’t matter which idiot had that idea or from what party. The only relevant aspect is that he’s still got the job.

Partisan response to DOPUS ? Partisan ghouls politicizing our casualties in Afghanistan ?

It would have been an idiotic idea, unless it worked.
Arafat went to Camp David & it didn't work.

Is our objective to remove the Tailban, reform the Taliban, or reach a modus vivendi where we leave them alone, so long as they don't harbor & support terrorists who are a threat to us ?

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:29 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:58 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:43 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:08 pm Then there's this today from Afghanistan (where we are supposed to be leaving shortly)...a reminder these were th epeople DOPUS was considering inviting to Camp David.

They would not have survived the helo flight from Dulles to Camp David.

...& when you smack talk about Trump in Afghanistan, you forget how Obama surged us to 100k troops there, while undermining the operation by annoucning they'd leave before our next election.
https://www.npr.org/2016/07/06/48497929 ... nder-obama

Why does it need to be a partisan response? It’s fair to say that it was an idiotic idea to invite the Taliban to Camp David. Doesn’t matter which idiot had that idea or from what party. The only relevant aspect is that he’s still got the job.

Partisan response to DOPUS ? Partisan ghouls politicizing our casualties in Afghanistan ?

It would have been an idiotic idea, unless it worked.
Arafat went to Camp David & it didn't work.

Is our objective to remove the Tailban, reform the Taliban, or reach a modus vivendi where we leave them alone, so long as they don't harbor & support terrorists who are a threat to us ?

Yes, "DOPUS" is indeed a slam. (not mine, btw)
But does it require a knee jerk response?

You do, of course, know the difference between Arafat and Barak both coming to Camp David with Clinton, much less Sadat and Begin with Carter (with 12 days of secret negotiations before even being announced) and this stupid foray by Trump.

Yes the Arafat/Barak summit effort didn't work, IMO a calamitous mistake for the Palestinians, but it was an effort with both sides at the table, an effort which had been worked on by the diplomats and in which each side agreed to participate. That Arafat blew it is not somehow a parallel to the Taliban being invited to Camp David, no participation by the Afghan government, and with no prior diplomacy setting the stage for a remotely possible positive resolution.

Stupid.

And that judgment really does not need to be seen as 'partisan'. It would have been equally stupid, regardless of party in power.

That is, unless one conflates Trump's political interests with the USA's national security interests...thus 'partisan'?

Sgt. 1st Class Javier Jaguar Gutierrez, 28, and Sgt. 1st Class Antonio Rey Rodriguez, 28, are the two U.S. Special Forces soldiers killed in Afghanistan on Saturday.

RIP.

Potential Afghan peace deal :
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN206165
WSJ & NYT also reporting.

Except that the Taliban have to agree to stop killing Americans. Fat chance.

Like the last time, DOA.

DOPUS gets to claim he tried.
Typical Trump BS.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:53 pm Potential Afghan peace deal :
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN206165
WSJ & NYT also reporting.

Since you are fond of lecturing everyone else regarding where and how they post....could you provide the actual heading of the article vs your interpretation?

U.S., Taliban could sign peace deal in February if insurgents reduce violence: sources

Saul Berenson says the country will fall to the Taliban six weeks after the Americans pull out.

foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:59 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:53 pm Potential Afghan peace deal :
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN206165
WSJ & NYT also reporting.

Since you are fond of lecturing everyone else regarding where and how they post....could you provide the actual heading of the article vs your interpretation?

U.S., Taliban could sign peace deal in February if insurgents reduce violence: sources

SkrewU. Not necessary. I posted the subject (in 4 words) & a free link.

I did not mix quoted content with my words.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:35 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:59 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:53 pm Potential Afghan peace deal :
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN206165
WSJ & NYT also reporting.

Since you are fond of lecturing everyone else regarding where and how they post....could you provide the actual heading of the article vs your interpretation?

U.S., Taliban could sign peace deal in February if insurgents reduce violence: sources

SkrewU. Not necessary. I posted the subject (in 4 words) & a free link.

I did not mix quoted content with my words.

Sorry, of course you don't. Only those with TDS do that.

foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:42 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:35 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:59 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:53 pm Potential Afghan peace deal :
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN206165
WSJ & NYT also reporting.

Since you are fond of lecturing everyone else regarding where and how they post....could you provide the actual heading of the article vs your interpretation?

U.S., Taliban could sign peace deal in February if insurgents reduce violence: sources

SkrewU. Not necessary. I posted the subject (in 4 words) & a free link.

I did not mix quoted content with my words.

Sorry, of course you don't. Only those with TDS do that.

Only lazy ones who repeatedly omit attribution to copyrighted content.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:50 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:42 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:35 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:59 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:53 pm Potential Afghan peace deal :
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN206165
WSJ & NYT also reporting.

Since you are fond of lecturing everyone else regarding where and how they post....could you provide the actual heading of the article vs your interpretation?

U.S., Taliban could sign peace deal in February if insurgents reduce violence: sources

SkrewU. Not necessary. I posted the subject (in 4 words) & a free link.

I did not mix quoted content with my words.

Sorry, of course you don't. Only those with TDS do that.

Only lazy ones who repeatedly omit attribution to copyrighted content.

You are on top of it and we can be sure you'll keep us posted.

foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:27 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:50 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:42 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:35 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:59 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:53 pm Potential Afghan peace deal :
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN206165
WSJ & NYT also reporting.

Since you are fond of lecturing everyone else regarding where and how they post....could you provide the actual heading of the article vs your interpretation?

U.S., Taliban could sign peace deal in February if insurgents reduce violence: sources

SkrewU. Not necessary. I posted the subject (in 4 words) & a free link.

I did not mix quoted content with my words.

Sorry, of course you don't. Only those with TDS do that.

Only lazy ones who repeatedly omit attribution to copyrighted content.

You are on top of it and we can be sure you'll keep us posted.

Based on results to date, not worth the trouble.
I'll just continue trying to the decipher the buried quoted words.

Trump- We’re doing very well with Iran.

njbill wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:33 pm Saul Berenson says the country will fall to the Taliban six weeks after the Americans pull out.

In hindsight, that was a very prescient comment bill. .
....do you have access to the scripts of Homeland ?

Nope. That was Saul talking, not me. That’s what he said in S8 E1 this year.

njbill wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:41 am Nope. That was Saul talking, not me. That’s what he said in S8 E1 this year.

I missed S8 E1 original air, watched E1 & E2 in mini-binge on 2/16.
I recall Saul saying that, but wasn't sure when.
Thought it might have been in S8 E2.
That would have made you even more prescient than the Homeland writers.
Their ability to anticipate in their storylines is uncanny.

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:38 pm

njbill wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:33 pm Saul Berenson says the country will fall to the Taliban six weeks after the Americans pull out.

In hindsight, that was a very prescient comment bill. .
....do you have access to the scripts of Homeland ?

If this was Obama doing this latest Trump gambit, you be frantically trying to throw him under the next bus and calling it a horrible policy and idea.
That's how you roll.
...and you aren't funny either.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:47 am Their ability to anticipate in their storylines is uncanny.

It sure is.