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Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:46 am

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:31 pm

CU88 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:46 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:27 am

Abortions should be very rare, safe, and legal. That has been the party line message from the FLP folks for a very long time.

You know what gets rid of lots of abortions? Free contraception. Especially "long acting reversible contraceptives." Here's a program Hickenlooper supported out here in Colorado (with private funding from Warren Buffett).

In fiscal year 2009, the state’s low-income “Title X” clinics reported they had provided LARCs to about 2,000 patients. That number had tripled within three years. Today, the state released new data on the program. It reports that:

The birth rate for young women ages 15 to 19 fell by 54 percent, to 17.1 per 1,000 people, from 2009 to 2016.
The clinics provided about 44,000 free or low-cost long-term contraceptives in that period.
The abortion rate for women ages 15 to 19 fell by 64 percent.
A University of Colorado study estimated that social services avoided spending $70 million because fewer children needed them.

So if you are pro-life, then you should be happy about the fact that Obamacare and Medicaid require free contraceptives, including LARCs. More effective at preventing abortions than just about anything else you could do.

FLP and pro-life!

+1

This is why I simply don't understand prolifers. If they REALLY think it's murder? Why the firetruck wouldn't you link up with libs to provide free birth control and free prenatal care? The libs would be OVERJOYED for the help, and would sign up for that in a New York Minute.

Unwanted pregnancies would plummet. Everyone wins.

I don't get it.

72 misses it and you guys should get it. Punishment isn’t the goal, but these cats believe in sex only for the explicit purpose of procreation and it is otherwise immoral or ungodly. It would be incongruous to support something that was generally available to in any way support such activities.

I don’t agree with this even though my wife is our church warden (that’s my gym time, I go for Xmas and Easter basically), but you guys are smart enough to know this.

Punishment isn’t the goal, but these cats believe in sex only for the explicit purpose of procreation and it is otherwise immoral or ungodly.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:28 pm I’m not very up to speed on religion but I do believe there was a New Testament written at some point.

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:09 am Whether you believe abortion is murder is a direct function of when you think that _human_ life begins. Before Roe vs. Wade, only the Roman Catholic church among large Christian communities within the US had theological beliefs of that being the point of conception. Moral majority movement however began to change that (along with the conservative takeover of the SBC theological schools in the 80s).

There are OT scriptures that indicate the moment that human life begins is at actual birth - and others that provide differing punishments for an injury to a woman who loses a pregnancy vs. killing a child. So there is some further interpretation necessary to get to conception at the point of birth (mostly pointing at scripture about God knowing someone while in the womb).

One of the basic underlying assumptions of Roe vs. Wade is the dividing line was set at independent viability of an infant. That is why the two trimester rule - we still have not really figured out how to take an infant before 24 weeks gestation and have a realistic chance of survival outside a mother's womb.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:23 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:09 am Whether you believe abortion is murder is a direct function of when you think that _human_ life begins. Before Roe vs. Wade, only the Roman Catholic church among large Christian communities within the US had theological beliefs of that being the point of conception. Moral majority movement however began to change that (along with the conservative takeover of the SBC theological schools in the 80s).

There are OT scriptures that indicate the moment that human life begins is at actual birth - and others that provide differing punishments for an injury to a woman who loses a pregnancy vs. killing a child. So there is some further interpretation necessary to get to conception at the point of birth (mostly pointing at scripture about God knowing someone while in the womb).

One of the basic underlying assumptions of Roe vs. Wade is the dividing line was set at independent viability of an infant. That is why the two trimester rule - we still have not really figured out how to take an infant before 24 weeks gestation and have a realistic chance of survival outside a mother's womb.

I despise and detest abortion, always have and always will. The old catholic in me still believes it is murder and as a catholic I was a complete failure in the faith I was raised in. My wife as a young RN was responsible for a time of being in the procedure room when the "fetus" was evacuated from the mothers womb. If any damn one of you was in that room and could witness up close and personal watching the fetus being evacuated, I bet none of you would not vomit and cry. My wife back then wanted desperately to have a baby, she was never able to become pregnant. The heartbreak of going to work and comforting women who willingly aborted their babies when you wanted what they were giving up. There is also the torment of a young nurse having to comfort these same women who were beside themselves with grief over what they had just done. They don't teach you how to do that in nursing school. Abortion should not only be rare it should be almost unheard of in our society. If there is to be money made from the selling of the parts of these aborted babies... then we as a nation are no better than the Nazis who dreamed up the final solution. I know many of you out there disagree with me vehemently. When my wife who has been there and seen it up close and personal tells me abortion is murder, I will agree with her all day long. She paid her dues and cried a lifetimes worth of tears in the process. I dare ANY of you to have this chat with my wife, you all try and explain to her what a great thing abortion is to our country.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:22 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:23 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:09 am Whether you believe abortion is murder is a direct function of when you think that _human_ life begins. Before Roe vs. Wade, only the Roman Catholic church among large Christian communities within the US had theological beliefs of that being the point of conception. Moral majority movement however began to change that (along with the conservative takeover of the SBC theological schools in the 80s).

There are OT scriptures that indicate the moment that human life begins is at actual birth - and others that provide differing punishments for an injury to a woman who loses a pregnancy vs. killing a child. So there is some further interpretation necessary to get to conception at the point of birth (mostly pointing at scripture about God knowing someone while in the womb).

One of the basic underlying assumptions of Roe vs. Wade is the dividing line was set at independent viability of an infant. That is why the two trimester rule - we still have not really figured out how to take an infant before 24 weeks gestation and have a realistic chance of survival outside a mother's womb.

I despise and detest abortion, always have and always will. The old catholic in me still believes it is murder and as a catholic I was a complete failure in the faith I was raised in. My wife as a young RN was responsible for a time of being in the procedure room when the "fetus" was evacuated from the mothers womb. If any damn one of you was in that room and could witness up close and personal watching the fetus being evacuated, I bet none of you would not vomit and cry. My wife back then wanted desperately to have a baby, she was never able to become pregnant. The heartbreak of going to work and comforting women who willingly aborted their babies when you wanted what they were giving up. There is also the torment of a young nurse having to comfort these same women who were beside themselves with grief over what they had just done. They don't teach you how to do that in nursing school. Abortion should not only be rare it should be almost unheard of in our society. If there is to be money made from the selling of the parts of these aborted babies... then we as a nation are no better than the Nazis who dreamed up the final solution. I know many of you out there disagree with me vehemently. When my wife who has been there and seen it up close and personal tells me abortion is murder, I will agree with her all day long. She paid her dues and cried a lifetimes worth of tears in the process. I dare ANY of you to have this chat with my wife, you all try and explain to her what a great thing abortion is to our country.

How did you feel about those baby killers that came back from ‘Nam?

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:23 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:09 am Whether you believe abortion is murder is a direct function of when you think that _human_ life begins. Before Roe vs. Wade, only the Roman Catholic church among large Christian communities within the US had theological beliefs of that being the point of conception. Moral majority movement however began to change that (along with the conservative takeover of the SBC theological schools in the 80s).

There are OT scriptures that indicate the moment that human life begins is at actual birth - and others that provide differing punishments for an injury to a woman who loses a pregnancy vs. killing a child. So there is some further interpretation necessary to get to conception at the point of birth (mostly pointing at scripture about God knowing someone while in the womb).

One of the basic underlying assumptions of Roe vs. Wade is the dividing line was set at independent viability of an infant. That is why the two trimester rule - we still have not really figured out how to take an infant before 24 weeks gestation and have a realistic chance of survival outside a mother's womb.

I despise and detest abortion, always have and always will. The old catholic in me still believes it is murder and as a catholic I was a complete failure in the faith I was raised in. My wife as a young RN was responsible for a time of being in the procedure room when the "fetus" was evacuated from the mothers womb. If any damn one of you was in that room and could witness up close and personal watching the fetus being evacuated, I bet none of you would not vomit and cry. My wife back then wanted desperately to have a baby, she was never able to become pregnant. The heartbreak of going to work and comforting women who willingly aborted their babies when you wanted what they were giving up. There is also the torment of a young nurse having to comfort these same women who were beside themselves with grief over what they had just done. They don't teach you how to do that in nursing school. Abortion should not only be rare it should be almost unheard of in our society. If there is to be money made from the selling of the parts of these aborted babies... then we as a nation are no better than the Nazis who dreamed up the final solution. I know many of you out there disagree with me vehemently. When my wife who has been there and seen it up close and personal tells me abortion is murder, I will agree with her all day long. She paid her dues and cried a lifetimes worth of tears in the process. I dare ANY of you to have this chat with my wife, you all try and explain to her what a great thing abortion is to our country.

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:00 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:22 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:23 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:09 am Whether you believe abortion is murder is a direct function of when you think that _human_ life begins. Before Roe vs. Wade, only the Roman Catholic church among large Christian communities within the US had theological beliefs of that being the point of conception. Moral majority movement however began to change that (along with the conservative takeover of the SBC theological schools in the 80s).

There are OT scriptures that indicate the moment that human life begins is at actual birth - and others that provide differing punishments for an injury to a woman who loses a pregnancy vs. killing a child. So there is some further interpretation necessary to get to conception at the point of birth (mostly pointing at scripture about God knowing someone while in the womb).

One of the basic underlying assumptions of Roe vs. Wade is the dividing line was set at independent viability of an infant. That is why the two trimester rule - we still have not really figured out how to take an infant before 24 weeks gestation and have a realistic chance of survival outside a mother's womb.

I despise and detest abortion, always have and always will. The old catholic in me still believes it is murder and as a catholic I was a complete failure in the faith I was raised in. My wife as a young RN was responsible for a time of being in the procedure room when the "fetus" was evacuated from the mothers womb. If any damn one of you was in that room and could witness up close and personal watching the fetus being evacuated, I bet none of you would not vomit and cry. My wife back then wanted desperately to have a baby, she was never able to become pregnant. The heartbreak of going to work and comforting women who willingly aborted their babies when you wanted what they were giving up. There is also the torment of a young nurse having to comfort these same women who were beside themselves with grief over what they had just done. They don't teach you how to do that in nursing school. Abortion should not only be rare it should be almost unheard of in our society. If there is to be money made from the selling of the parts of these aborted babies... then we as a nation are no better than the Nazis who dreamed up the final solution. I know many of you out there disagree with me vehemently. When my wife who has been there and seen it up close and personal tells me abortion is murder, I will agree with her all day long. She paid her dues and cried a lifetimes worth of tears in the process. I dare ANY of you to have this chat with my wife, you all try and explain to her what a great thing abortion is to our country.

How did you feel about those baby killers that came back from ‘Nam?

Tell us all about them, Daddy.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:57 pm Ggait, don’t disagree, but if one believes that the “pure” or “literal” islamists have an absolute view than surely you’d believe that “literal”/“pure” Christians do as well. They want their religion to also be secular law in their country. Almost have to ignore that cohort.

Cradle, 2.5yrs ago we had a “mistake” pregnancy. I had just quit my job in a Jerry McGuire moment and was making a few bucks hiring myself out as a consultant but it was not a good time and we weren’t sure we wanted a 3rd w a 2&4yr old at the time. I was panicking even though I’ve lived my whole life figuring out how to make money and take care of things. Came around to the fact that I’d figure this out too even if we hadn’t officially made our decision. Turns out that the first ultrasound the heartbeat was a little light in the 80s/min. Come back a week later, my mind had turned to “we’re having another kid” and at that one there was no movement-done. Further later it got “flushed” and I actually did in fact see what it was at that point. The second ultrasound and the aftermath made me pretty sad as a non serious Christian (Episcopalian). Feel free to call me some monster or whatever you want but I haven’t changed one bit on how I feel about a woman’s right to choose to have an abortion. Not one bit. How’s that for a story for you?

jhu72 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:20 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:23 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:09 am Whether you believe abortion is murder is a direct function of when you think that _human_ life begins. Before Roe vs. Wade, only the Roman Catholic church among large Christian communities within the US had theological beliefs of that being the point of conception. Moral majority movement however began to change that (along with the conservative takeover of the SBC theological schools in the 80s).

There are OT scriptures that indicate the moment that human life begins is at actual birth - and others that provide differing punishments for an injury to a woman who loses a pregnancy vs. killing a child. So there is some further interpretation necessary to get to conception at the point of birth (mostly pointing at scripture about God knowing someone while in the womb).

One of the basic underlying assumptions of Roe vs. Wade is the dividing line was set at independent viability of an infant. That is why the two trimester rule - we still have not really figured out how to take an infant before 24 weeks gestation and have a realistic chance of survival outside a mother's womb.

I despise and detest abortion, always have and always will. The old catholic in me still believes it is murder and as a catholic I was a complete failure in the faith I was raised in. My wife as a young RN was responsible for a time of being in the procedure room when the "fetus" was evacuated from the mothers womb. If any damn one of you was in that room and could witness up close and personal watching the fetus being evacuated, I bet none of you would not vomit and cry. My wife back then wanted desperately to have a baby, she was never able to become pregnant. The heartbreak of going to work and comforting women who willingly aborted their babies when you wanted what they were giving up. There is also the torment of a young nurse having to comfort these same women who were beside themselves with grief over what they had just done. They don't teach you how to do that in nursing school. Abortion should not only be rare it should be almost unheard of in our society. If there is to be money made from the selling of the parts of these aborted babies... then we as a nation are no better than the Nazis who dreamed up the final solution. I know many of you out there disagree with me vehemently. When my wife who has been there and seen it up close and personal tells me abortion is murder, I will agree with her all day long. She paid her dues and cried a lifetimes worth of tears in the process. I dare ANY of you to have this chat with my wife, you all try and explain to her what a great thing abortion is to our country.

Total strawman.

Not one individual in this discussion has argued abortion is a "great thing to our country". It would be stipulated by everyone in this discussion that it is tragic and undesirable. Abortion does not equal selling of body parts. Lets not conflate the two. Abortions are going to happen - period. You will be no more successful in eradicating them than the nation was successful in eradicating moonshine. The real problem is how do we minimize them while causing the least harm to society and in minimizing them perhaps reaching a point where there are no more abortions for any reason other than necessary abortions. Criminalization has been a total failure.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:22 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:23 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:09 am Whether you believe abortion is murder is a direct function of when you think that _human_ life begins. Before Roe vs. Wade, only the Roman Catholic church among large Christian communities within the US had theological beliefs of that being the point of conception. Moral majority movement however began to change that (along with the conservative takeover of the SBC theological schools in the 80s).

There are OT scriptures that indicate the moment that human life begins is at actual birth - and others that provide differing punishments for an injury to a woman who loses a pregnancy vs. killing a child. So there is some further interpretation necessary to get to conception at the point of birth (mostly pointing at scripture about God knowing someone while in the womb).

One of the basic underlying assumptions of Roe vs. Wade is the dividing line was set at independent viability of an infant. That is why the two trimester rule - we still have not really figured out how to take an infant before 24 weeks gestation and have a realistic chance of survival outside a mother's womb.

I despise and detest abortion, always have and always will. The old catholic in me still believes it is murder and as a catholic I was a complete failure in the faith I was raised in. My wife as a young RN was responsible for a time of being in the procedure room when the "fetus" was evacuated from the mothers womb. If any damn one of you was in that room and could witness up close and personal watching the fetus being evacuated, I bet none of you would not vomit and cry. My wife back then wanted desperately to have a baby, she was never able to become pregnant. The heartbreak of going to work and comforting women who willingly aborted their babies when you wanted what they were giving up. There is also the torment of a young nurse having to comfort these same women who were beside themselves with grief over what they had just done. They don't teach you how to do that in nursing school. Abortion should not only be rare it should be almost unheard of in our society. If there is to be money made from the selling of the parts of these aborted babies... then we as a nation are no better than the Nazis who dreamed up the final solution. I know many of you out there disagree with me vehemently. When my wife who has been there and seen it up close and personal tells me abortion is murder, I will agree with her all day long. She paid her dues and cried a lifetimes worth of tears in the process. I dare ANY of you to have this chat with my wife, you all try and explain to her what a great thing abortion is to our country.

How did you feel about those baby killers that came back from ‘Nam?

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:46 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:22 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:23 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:09 am Whether you believe abortion is murder is a direct function of when you think that _human_ life begins. Before Roe vs. Wade, only the Roman Catholic church among large Christian communities within the US had theological beliefs of that being the point of conception. Moral majority movement however began to change that (along with the conservative takeover of the SBC theological schools in the 80s).

There are OT scriptures that indicate the moment that human life begins is at actual birth - and others that provide differing punishments for an injury to a woman who loses a pregnancy vs. killing a child. So there is some further interpretation necessary to get to conception at the point of birth (mostly pointing at scripture about God knowing someone while in the womb).

One of the basic underlying assumptions of Roe vs. Wade is the dividing line was set at independent viability of an infant. That is why the two trimester rule - we still have not really figured out how to take an infant before 24 weeks gestation and have a realistic chance of survival outside a mother's womb.

I despise and detest abortion, always have and always will. The old catholic in me still believes it is murder and as a catholic I was a complete failure in the faith I was raised in. My wife as a young RN was responsible for a time of being in the procedure room when the "fetus" was evacuated from the mothers womb. If any damn one of you was in that room and could witness up close and personal watching the fetus being evacuated, I bet none of you would not vomit and cry. My wife back then wanted desperately to have a baby, she was never able to become pregnant. The heartbreak of going to work and comforting women who willingly aborted their babies when you wanted what they were giving up. There is also the torment of a young nurse having to comfort these same women who were beside themselves with grief over what they had just done. They don't teach you how to do that in nursing school. Abortion should not only be rare it should be almost unheard of in our society. If there is to be money made from the selling of the parts of these aborted babies... then we as a nation are no better than the Nazis who dreamed up the final solution. I know many of you out there disagree with me vehemently. When my wife who has been there and seen it up close and personal tells me abortion is murder, I will agree with her all day long. She paid her dues and cried a lifetimes worth of tears in the process. I dare ANY of you to have this chat with my wife, you all try and explain to her what a great thing abortion is to our country.

How did you feel about those baby killers that came back from ‘Nam?

The most ignorant comment for 2020 so far goes to... TLD. Stand up and take a bow. Are you going to Disneyworld?

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:57 pm Ggait, don’t disagree, but if one believes that the “pure” or “literal” islamists have an absolute view than surely you’d believe that “literal”/“pure” Christians do as well. They want their religion to also be secular law in their country. Almost have to ignore that cohort.

Cradle, 2.5yrs ago we had a “mistake” pregnancy. I had just quit my job in a Jerry McGuire moment and was making a few bucks hiring myself out as a consultant but it was not a good time and we weren’t sure we wanted a 3rd w a 2&4yr old at the time. I was panicking even though I’ve lived my whole life figuring out how to make money and take care of things. Came around to the fact that I’d figure this out too even if we hadn’t officially made our decision. Turns out that the first ultrasound the heartbeat was a little light in the 80s/min. Come back a week later, my mind had turned to “we’re having another kid” and at that one there was no movement-done. Further later it got “flushed” and I actually did in fact see what it was at that point. The second ultrasound and the aftermath made me pretty sad as a non serious Christian (Episcopalian). Feel free to call me some monster or whatever you want but I haven’t changed one bit on how I feel about a woman’s right to choose to have an abortion. Not one bit. How’s that for a story for you?

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:53 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:46 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:22 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:23 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:09 am Whether you believe abortion is murder is a direct function of when you think that _human_ life begins. Before Roe vs. Wade, only the Roman Catholic church among large Christian communities within the US had theological beliefs of that being the point of conception. Moral majority movement however began to change that (along with the conservative takeover of the SBC theological schools in the 80s).

There are OT scriptures that indicate the moment that human life begins is at actual birth - and others that provide differing punishments for an injury to a woman who loses a pregnancy vs. killing a child. So there is some further interpretation necessary to get to conception at the point of birth (mostly pointing at scripture about God knowing someone while in the womb).

One of the basic underlying assumptions of Roe vs. Wade is the dividing line was set at independent viability of an infant. That is why the two trimester rule - we still have not really figured out how to take an infant before 24 weeks gestation and have a realistic chance of survival outside a mother's womb.

I despise and detest abortion, always have and always will. The old catholic in me still believes it is murder and as a catholic I was a complete failure in the faith I was raised in. My wife as a young RN was responsible for a time of being in the procedure room when the "fetus" was evacuated from the mothers womb. If any damn one of you was in that room and could witness up close and personal watching the fetus being evacuated, I bet none of you would not vomit and cry. My wife back then wanted desperately to have a baby, she was never able to become pregnant. The heartbreak of going to work and comforting women who willingly aborted their babies when you wanted what they were giving up. There is also the torment of a young nurse having to comfort these same women who were beside themselves with grief over what they had just done. They don't teach you how to do that in nursing school. Abortion should not only be rare it should be almost unheard of in our society. If there is to be money made from the selling of the parts of these aborted babies... then we as a nation are no better than the Nazis who dreamed up the final solution. I know many of you out there disagree with me vehemently. When my wife who has been there and seen it up close and personal tells me abortion is murder, I will agree with her all day long. She paid her dues and cried a lifetimes worth of tears in the process. I dare ANY of you to have this chat with my wife, you all try and explain to her what a great thing abortion is to our country.

How did you feel about those baby killers that came back from ‘Nam?

The most ignorant comment for 2020 so far goes to... TLD. Stand up and take a bow. Are you going to Disneyworld?

It went over your head.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:00 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:53 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:46 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:22 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:23 pm

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:09 am Whether you believe abortion is murder is a direct function of when you think that _human_ life begins. Before Roe vs. Wade, only the Roman Catholic church among large Christian communities within the US had theological beliefs of that being the point of conception. Moral majority movement however began to change that (along with the conservative takeover of the SBC theological schools in the 80s).

There are OT scriptures that indicate the moment that human life begins is at actual birth - and others that provide differing punishments for an injury to a woman who loses a pregnancy vs. killing a child. So there is some further interpretation necessary to get to conception at the point of birth (mostly pointing at scripture about God knowing someone while in the womb).

One of the basic underlying assumptions of Roe vs. Wade is the dividing line was set at independent viability of an infant. That is why the two trimester rule - we still have not really figured out how to take an infant before 24 weeks gestation and have a realistic chance of survival outside a mother's womb.

I despise and detest abortion, always have and always will. The old catholic in me still believes it is murder and as a catholic I was a complete failure in the faith I was raised in. My wife as a young RN was responsible for a time of being in the procedure room when the "fetus" was evacuated from the mothers womb. If any damn one of you was in that room and could witness up close and personal watching the fetus being evacuated, I bet none of you would not vomit and cry. My wife back then wanted desperately to have a baby, she was never able to become pregnant. The heartbreak of going to work and comforting women who willingly aborted their babies when you wanted what they were giving up. There is also the torment of a young nurse having to comfort these same women who were beside themselves with grief over what they had just done. They don't teach you how to do that in nursing school. Abortion should not only be rare it should be almost unheard of in our society. If there is to be money made from the selling of the parts of these aborted babies... then we as a nation are no better than the Nazis who dreamed up the final solution. I know many of you out there disagree with me vehemently. When my wife who has been there and seen it up close and personal tells me abortion is murder, I will agree with her all day long. She paid her dues and cried a lifetimes worth of tears in the process. I dare ANY of you to have this chat with my wife, you all try and explain to her what a great thing abortion is to our country.

How did you feel about those baby killers that came back from ‘Nam?

The most ignorant comment for 2020 so far goes to... TLD. Stand up and take a bow. Are you going to Disneyworld?

It went over your head.

I guess so, I was taking your words at face value. If you had some context to what you were trying to say, maybe you should not make it a mystery. That is your bad not mine. I don't dance around stupid metaphors people are trying to use... say what you mean and mean what you say.