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a fan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:39 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:24 pm Starr had no choice. He was ready to close up shop when Isikoff showed up at his door with Tripp, Monica, the blue dress, & tapes of Slick Willie suborning perjury. Had Starr not followed through, he'd have read about it in Newsweek.

Nope. Outside his purview. Hand it off. Mueller did. Problem solved.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:24 pm In Benghazi, our military & IC weren't weaponized. They were finally heard. We found out what really happened, & why, & took steps to prevent a re-occurrence.

Nonsense. They fixed it within a matter of weeks.....that was the military part. The "finally heard" part is the weaponization. There's NO WAY it lasted that long without Hillary being the target. No chance. You'll never agree on this point, so let's just agree to disagree.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:24 pm Clinton was held accountable, for her decisions & her attempt to cover up

Yes. Agree with that, and it exposed her stupid server decision. She had it coming, you'll never get me to disagree with that point.

But that 4 year investigation, obviously, was a political attack that would NEVER have occurred if it was some unknown Sec of State. Instead, they would have hit Obama, and lost interest after a while because he wasn't up for reelection.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:54 pm
A Special Prosecutor can't ignore evidence like tapes of a President suborning perjury.
The Special Prosecutor law (since changed) required Starr to report his findings to Congress.
Blame Tripp & Goldberg, not Starr

seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:35 pm

ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:39 pm Leaves are falling all around
It's time I was on my way
Thanks to you I'm much obliged
For such a pleasant stay
But now it's time for me to go
The autumn moon lights my way
For now I smell the rain
And with it pain
And it's headed my way
Ah, sometimes I grow so tired
But I know I've got one thing I got to do
Ramble on
And now's the time, the time is now
To sing my song....

Nice; the songs of my youth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-tT62bpYlU

ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:55 pm

seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:35 pm

ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:39 pm Leaves are falling all around
It's time I was on my way
Thanks to you I'm much obliged
For such a pleasant stay
But now it's time for me to go
The autumn moon lights my way
For now I smell the rain
And with it pain
And it's headed my way
Ah, sometimes I grow so tired
But I know I've got one thing I got to do
Ramble on
And now's the time, the time is now
To sing my song....

Nice; the songs of my youth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-tT62bpYlU

I was watching the press conference live around 4:30 today. From the get-go he just started to ramble on and it made me think of this tune then the lyrics seemed timely. Oh boy.

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:49 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:23 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:05 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:48 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:42 pm Donald Trump tried to coerce the President of Ukraine into smearing his political rival, using American military aid as his leverage.

Please quote the part where the Javelin requests were contingent on Crowdstrike intel?

Here you go ....

ZELENSKIY: I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United  States for defense purposes.

TRUMP: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people ... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you are surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible.

https://m.sfgate.com/news/article/White ... 466959.php

It’s obvious. Zelenskiy wants to buy more US military equipment and Trump immediately responds, “I would like you to do us a favor though ....”

Seriously, don’t ACT stupid. I know you are not.

That’s a documented quid pro quo. Sure, it’s mobster-style quid pro quo, but Trump is a mobster who happens to be president.

DocBarrister

No it is not. there must be a contingent element to it, there is none. Keep inserting your coins in the #whackamole game.

Ok ... maybe you’re not acting. My mistake.

DocBarrister

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:50 pm

ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:55 pm

seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:35 pm

ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:39 pm Leaves are falling all around
It's time I was on my way
Thanks to you I'm much obliged
For such a pleasant stay
But now it's time for me to go
The autumn moon lights my way
For now I smell the rain
And with it pain
And it's headed my way
Ah, sometimes I grow so tired
But I know I've got one thing I got to do
Ramble on
And now's the time, the time is now
To sing my song....

Nice; the songs of my youth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-tT62bpYlU

I was watching the press conference live around 4:30 today. From the get-go he just started to ramble on and it made me think of this tune then the lyrics seemed timely. Oh boy.

The classic was Zelensky's flinch and his eyes going wide as Trump talked about how he hopes Zelensky can "work it out with Putin" and that he "knows he want to work it out". Frozen.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:02 am Peter, think you have missed the point. MD and CU88 are talking about Zelensky's reaction to Orange Duce's comments in yesterday's joint press conference - not any transcript.

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:14 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:02 am Peter, think you have missed the point. MD and CU88 are talking about Zelensky's reaction to Orange Duce's comments in yesterday's joint press conference - not any transcript.

And poor Zelensky is between a rock and a hard place - Putin is trying to carve off portions of his country through war, and ultimately wants Ukraine back in the Russian orbit and Trump is playing hardball and now so openly (quite evident in yesterday's news conference even in spite of the revelations/allegations). It is clear from the now released whistleblower complaint that Zelensky knew that Trump was conditioning even talking with him on investigations of personal interest to Trump, and specifically to both probe VP Biden and his son, as well as a wild conspiracy theory involving the 2016 election. He also knows of Trump's fondness/groveling to Putin and so really has to be careful how he acts with our current President.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:42 am If you are reporting on the "favor" line from the transcript, without mentioning that the VERY next sentence is about wanting an investigation into meddling in the 2016 election...

...you are being misleading.

It's right here. Come on people, be honest.

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:25 am

foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:51 am

Bandito wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:49 am Nancy Pelosi just said she hasn't read the transcript yet ...

That's a full admission that she went for impeachment with ZERO facts.

The Democrat party is the enemy of the people.

Democrats are toast. They’re done. Adios Democrats. Good luck in 2020. Better find your safe spaces

There is no transcript to be read...just a memorandum.

A memo that likely has been further edited by the administration. That is also why the House needs to interview the whistleblower.

Also, the IG actually made a criminal referral to the DOJ based on the whistleblower complaint, that Justice declined to prosecute.

Bandito thinks it is over. It is just beginning...

Bandito wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:35 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:25 am

foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:51 am

Bandito wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:49 am Nancy Pelosi just said she hasn't read the transcript yet ...

That's a full admission that she went for impeachment with ZERO facts.

The Democrat party is the enemy of the people.

Democrats are toast. They’re done. Adios Democrats. Good luck in 2020. Better find your safe spaces

There is no transcript to be read...just a memorandum.

A memo that likely has been further edited by the administration. That is also why the House needs to interview the whistleblower.

Also, the IG actually made a criminal referral to the DOJ based on the whistleblower complaint, that Justice declined to prosecute.

Bandito thinks it is over. It is just beginning...

What are you talking about ? They’ve investigated Trump and found nothing the last three years. Yet this newest investigation brought up dirt on Biden and his son! I love it. Dems can’t get out of their own way. Maybe try winning an election for once! The Dem party has no message except for impeach, World is coming to end due to climate change and give us all your money!!!

2020 is going to a glorious time to be a great American. A Democrat socialist cuck, not so much

foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:58 am

Bandito wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:35 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:25 am

foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:51 am

Bandito wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:49 am Nancy Pelosi just said she hasn't read the transcript yet ...

That's a full admission that she went for impeachment with ZERO facts.

The Democrat party is the enemy of the people.

Democrats are toast. They’re done. Adios Democrats. Good luck in 2020. Better find your safe spaces

There is no transcript to be read...just a memorandum.

A memo that likely has been further edited by the administration. That is also why the House needs to interview the whistleblower.

Also, the IG actually made a criminal referral to the DOJ based on the whistleblower complaint, that Justice declined to prosecute.

Bandito thinks it is over. It is just beginning...

What are you talking about ? They’ve investigated Trump and found nothing the last three years. Yet this newest investigation brought up dirt on Biden and his son! I love it. Dems can’t get out of their own way. Maybe try winning an election for once! The Dem party has no message except for impeach, World is coming to end due to climate change and give us all your money!!!

2020 is going to a glorious time to be a great American. A Democrat socialist cuck, not so much

Oh, they found plenty...just not enough to indict, since Barr says you can't indict a POTUS and the Rs are too scared to stand up to Trump.

Bandito wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:00 pmYou really are brain dead

Bandito wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:00 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:58 am

Bandito wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:35 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:25 am

foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:51 am

Bandito wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:49 am Nancy Pelosi just said she hasn't read the transcript yet ...

That's a full admission that she went for impeachment with ZERO facts.

The Democrat party is the enemy of the people.

Democrats are toast. They’re done. Adios Democrats. Good luck in 2020. Better find your safe spaces

There is no transcript to be read...just a memorandum.

A memo that likely has been further edited by the administration. That is also why the House needs to interview the whistleblower.

Also, the IG actually made a criminal referral to the DOJ based on the whistleblower complaint, that Justice declined to prosecute.

Bandito thinks it is over. It is just beginning...

What are you talking about ? They’ve investigated Trump and found nothing the last three years. Yet this newest investigation brought up dirt on Biden and his son! I love it. Dems can’t get out of their own way. Maybe try winning an election for once! The Dem party has no message except for impeach, World is coming to end due to climate change and give us all your money!!!

2020 is going to a glorious time to be a great American. A Democrat socialist cuck, not so much

Oh, they found plenty...just not enough to indict, since Barr says you can't indict a POTUS and the Rs are too scared to stand up to Trump.

They didn’t find anything. You really are brain dead Could be

Btw:

Democrat Rep. Adam Schiff (CA) admits that his blatant fabrication of quotes from Trump's Ukraine call was "wrong" after he got called out

Schiff claims it was a "parody"

Impeachment is a politically polarizing event and Schiff thinks it's just a big joke It is polarizing

Absolutely unreal

Democrats are enemies of the people.In your opinion...too bad you view the world this way.

a fan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:59 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:42 am If you are reporting on the "favor" line from the transcript, without mentioning that the VERY next sentence is about wanting an investigation into meddling in the 2016 election...

...you are being misleading.

It's right here. Come on people, be honest.

Honest question: why is a sitting President talking to a foreign leader about looking into the behavior of a political rival (Biden and his son)?

What does that have to do with the business of the American people.

Take your time. Come up with a reasonable answer as to why that's ok, and how that serves the American people.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:25 am

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:14 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:02 am Peter, think you have missed the point. MD and CU88 are talking about Zelensky's reaction to Orange Duce's comments in yesterday's joint press conference - not any transcript.

And poor Zelensky is between a rock and a hard place - Putin is trying to carve off portions of his country through war, and ultimately wants Ukraine back in the Russian orbit and Trump is playing hardball and now so openly (quite evident in yesterday's news conference even in spite of the revelations/allegations). It is clear from the now released whistleblower complaint that Zelensky knew that Trump was conditioning even talking with him on investigations of personal interest to Trump, and specifically to both probe VP Biden and his son, as well as a wild conspiracy theory involving the 2016 election. He also knows of Trump's fondness/groveling to Putin and so really has to be careful how he acts with our current President.

Yup. All of this puts Zelensky in a difficult position back home. The one thing our POS president is correct about is that the raising of this affair in the US does give advantage to Putin. SFB should have thought of that before he decided to tell Zelensky that he wanted a bribe to release the missile sale.