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jhu72 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:54 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:39 am
jhu72 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:35 pm Increasing rate of College Closings. Informational - worth the 15 minutes.
I’ve read pieces before that project 15% of colleges in NE will close in 25yrs (from probably 5yrs ago), then heard from the former head of Temples B school (after the scandal) to flip those numbers.

There was always a plethora of mediocre colleges in the NE, I worry about Hobart who’s done a horrid job under the prior, now current again, President in raising endowment funds (especially when Abigail
johnson is an alum worth $15Bn and given like $10mm). But then I figure HWS and a few others can consolidate the best kids from Hartwick, Elmira, St John Fisher, etc as those are the high risk types and be ok.
The top private schools won't feel this, they have large endowments and multiple sources of income. The major state universities likewise. The smaller regional schools will likely have to make tough choices or go away. I agree those willing to invest and make smart choices will be the winners among the rest
I think $400mm gets you long term viability. 5% / annum means $20/yr to fund opex fill gaps.

Most between $200-$400mm today are probably fine but I wouldn’t feel robust there.

Below $200mm you best have some niche or other value add offering to justify existence.
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Indiana Moms for Liberty quote Hitler in their first newsletter. When they tell you who they are, believe them!
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jhu72 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:06 pm
Indiana Moms for Liberty quote Hitler in their first newsletter. When they tell you who they are, believe them!
Nice spin by the author.....it is quite clear they are saying this is what they believe IS currently happening by school boards; implying school boards are following Hitler. They are not wrong..... ;)
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youthathletics wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:11 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:06 pm
Indiana Moms for Liberty quote Hitler in their first newsletter. When they tell you who they are, believe them!
Nice spin by the author.....it is quite clear they are saying this is what they believe IS currently happening by school boards; implying school boards are following Hitler. They are not wrong..... ;)
... Given their documented behavior and associations, only their fellow travelers will believe that explanation.
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youthathletics wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:11 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:06 pm
Indiana Moms for Liberty quote Hitler in their first newsletter. When they tell you who they are, believe them!
Nice spin by the author.....it is quite clear they are saying this is what they believe IS currently happening by school boards; implying school boards are following Hitler. They are not wrong..... ;)
Nice spin by you. There's no context to the quote in the actual newsletter. Implying or otherwise. If you see someone quoting Adolf Hitler without context, what are you gonna assume?

So you're saying they're not nazis, they're just regular old massive idiots then for including that quote without context?

And you think American school boards are following hitler by being inclusive and teaching about things like discrimination? Legit made me laugh, good job, you've got great jokes. 👍

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youthathletics wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:11 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:06 pm
Indiana Moms for Liberty quote Hitler in their first newsletter. When they tell you who they are, believe them!
Nice spin by the author.....it is quite clear they are saying this is what they believe IS currently happening by school boards; implying school boards are following Hitler. They are not wrong..... ;)
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youthathletics wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:11 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:06 pm
Indiana Moms for Liberty quote Hitler in their first newsletter. When they tell you who they are, believe them!
Nice spin by the author.....it is quite clear they are saying this is what they believe IS currently happening by school boards; implying school boards are following Hitler. They are not wrong..... ;)
You're making the exact same argument Anita Bryant did, YA. You want to take away people rights, and the reason you're giving is the same reason Bryant gave...."the gays are coming for our children".

You want to take American back to the 50's, and sorry man, but most of us have no interest in doing that to their fellow Americans.
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Charter school study from Stanford

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6329737622112
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old salt wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:05 pm Charter school study from Stanford

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6329737622112
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:14 am I think $400mm gets you long term viability. 5% / annum means $20/yr to fund opex fill gaps.

Most between $200-$400mm today are probably fine but I wouldn’t feel robust there.

Below $200mm you best have some niche or other value add offering to justify existence.
Saw Villanova bought Cabrini's campus, possibly moving the law school there.

It's crazy just how college-dense that area is. In that 12 mile stretch from Cabrini do the Schuykill down Lancaster Ave, you have:

Cabrini - DIII
Eastern - DIII
Villanova - DI
Harcum - Juco?
Bryn Mar - DIII (all women)
Haverford - DIII
St. Charles Borromeo - Seminary
St. Joseph's - DI
Drexel - DI
Penn - DI
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Liberty University VP agrees with Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Moms for Fascism.

... the viewer response says America is not buying the excuse!
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We are experiencing a growing commercial pilot shortage in the US caused by several factors, including the retirement of Vietnam era military trained pilots & a large increase in the flight hours based entry level requirement for an Airline Transport Pilot rating, resulting from the 2010 regional airliner crash in Buffalo. The airlines & flight training industry are collaborating & scrambling to meet this shortfall. More colleges & JuCos are developing programs. There have never been more pathways available, both civil, military or combined. I wish I were starting over. If anyone wants my advice, shoot me a PM.

https://www.ccbcmd.edu/Programs-and-Cou ... --airplane
https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/degrees/ ... nal-flight
https://und.edu/programs/commercial-avi ... index.html
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old salt wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:27 pm We are experiencing a growing commercial pilot shortage in the US caused by several factors, including the retirement of Vietnam era military trained pilots & a large increase in the flight hours based entry level requirement for an Airline Transport Pilot rating, resulting from the 2010 regional airliner crash in Buffalo. The airlines & flight training industry are collaborating & scrambling to meet this shortfall. More colleges & JuCos are developing programs. There have never been more pathways available, both civil, military or combined. I wish I were starting over. If anyone wants my advice, shoot me a PM.

https://www.ccbcmd.edu/Programs-and-Cou ... --airplane
https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/degrees/ ... nal-flight
https://und.edu/programs/commercial-avi ... index.html
The pay and hours must be really bad. There has to be 100’s of military pilots each year leaving the Service for civilian life. You’d think that’d be an easy transition opportunity.
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:43 pm
old salt wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:27 pm We are experiencing a growing commercial pilot shortage in the US caused by several factors, including the retirement of Vietnam era military trained pilots & a large increase in the flight hours based entry level requirement for an Airline Transport Pilot rating, resulting from the 2010 regional airliner crash in Buffalo. The airlines & flight training industry are collaborating & scrambling to meet this shortfall. More colleges & JuCos are developing programs. There have never been more pathways available, both civil, military or combined. I wish I were starting over. If anyone wants my advice, shoot me a PM.

https://www.ccbcmd.edu/Programs-and-Cou ... --airplane
https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/degrees/ ... nal-flight
https://und.edu/programs/commercial-avi ... index.html
The pay and hours must be really bad. There has to be 100’s of military pilots each year leaving the Service for civilian life. You’d think that’d be an easy transition opportunity.
Huh. My nephew's HS sweetheart moved away from getting her Masters in graphic design, and enrolled in United's (I think that's the right airline) program for pilots. She's already a certified instructor, and is burning through the required hours. She loves it.

Those dinky planes scare the beejuzus out of me....but she got the bug, OS. LOVES it.
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:43 pm
old salt wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:27 pm We are experiencing a growing commercial pilot shortage in the US caused by several factors, including the retirement of Vietnam era military trained pilots & a large increase in the flight hours based entry level requirement for an Airline Transport Pilot rating, resulting from the 2010 regional airliner crash in Buffalo. The airlines & flight training industry are collaborating & scrambling to meet this shortfall. More colleges & JuCos are developing programs. There have never been more pathways available, both civil, military or combined. I wish I were starting over. If anyone wants my advice, shoot me a PM.

https://www.ccbcmd.edu/Programs-and-Cou ... --airplane
https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/degrees/ ... nal-flight
https://und.edu/programs/commercial-avi ... index.html
The pay and hours must be really bad. There has to be 100’s of military pilots each year leaving the Service for civilian life. You’d think that’d be an easy transition opportunity.
It's never been this easy before. The 1500 flt hr rqmt for an ATP rating is reduced to 750 flt hrs for former military pilots.
The accredited BS degree programs reduce it to 1000 hrs, the AA degree programs to 1250 hrs.
Most military pilots fullfill their military service obligation by age 30-35. That leaves 30+ years for an airline career with mandatory retirement at age 65 (soon to be 67). Plenty of time to advance to Capt & gain the seniority necessary to better control your sched, reduce days away from domicile base, & enjoy the benefits of the job. Advancement is much faster now due to the increasing number of retirements. Many military pilots keep flying in the Reserves or National Guard, earning a second retirement. The military is scrambling, offering more bonuses & assignment perks to retain pilots.
It's not worth pursuing, unless you really love to fly.

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old salt wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:43 pm
old salt wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:27 pm We are experiencing a growing commercial pilot shortage in the US caused by several factors, including the retirement of Vietnam era military trained pilots & a large increase in the flight hours based entry level requirement for an Airline Transport Pilot rating, resulting from the 2010 regional airliner crash in Buffalo. The airlines & flight training industry are collaborating & scrambling to meet this shortfall. More colleges & JuCos are developing programs. There have never been more pathways available, both civil, military or combined. I wish I were starting over. If anyone wants my advice, shoot me a PM.

https://www.ccbcmd.edu/Programs-and-Cou ... --airplane
https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/degrees/ ... nal-flight
https://und.edu/programs/commercial-avi ... index.html
The pay and hours must be really bad. There has to be 100’s of military pilots each year leaving the Service for civilian life. You’d think that’d be an easy transition opportunity.
It's never been this easy before. The 1500 flt hr rqmt for an ATP rating is reduced to 750 flt hrs for former military pilots.
The accredited BS degree programs reduce it to 1000 hrs, the AA degree programs to 1250 hrs.
Most military pilots fullfill their military service obligation by age 30-35. That leaves 30+ years for an airline career with mandatory retirement at age 65 (soon to be 67). Plenty of time to advance to Capt & gain the seniority necessary to better control your sched, reduce days away from domicile base, & enjoy the benefits of the job. Advancement is much faster now due to the increasing number of retirements. Many military pilots keep flying in the Reserves or National Guard, earning a second retirement. The military is scrambling, offering more bonuses & assignment perks to retain pilots.
It's not worth pursuing, unless you really love to fly.

Pay : https://atpflightschool.com/become-a-pi ... alary.html
So the FAA is reducing how many hours you need to fly commercial? Are there different requirements for different planes? I'm guessing (have no clue) that the requirements go up based on how many souls are on board? Or am I just makin' stuff up that has no basis?
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a fan wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:56 pm
old salt wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:43 pm
old salt wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:27 pm We are experiencing a growing commercial pilot shortage in the US caused by several factors, including the retirement of Vietnam era military trained pilots & a large increase in the flight hours based entry level requirement for an Airline Transport Pilot rating, resulting from the 2010 regional airliner crash in Buffalo. The airlines & flight training industry are collaborating & scrambling to meet this shortfall. More colleges & JuCos are developing programs. There have never been more pathways available, both civil, military or combined. I wish I were starting over. If anyone wants my advice, shoot me a PM.

https://www.ccbcmd.edu/Programs-and-Cou ... --airplane
https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/degrees/ ... nal-flight
https://und.edu/programs/commercial-avi ... index.html
The pay and hours must be really bad. There has to be 100’s of military pilots each year leaving the Service for civilian life. You’d think that’d be an easy transition opportunity.
It's never been this easy before. The 1500 flt hr rqmt for an ATP rating is reduced to 750 flt hrs for former military pilots.
The accredited BS degree programs reduce it to 1000 hrs, the AA degree programs to 1250 hrs.
Most military pilots fullfill their military service obligation by age 30-35. That leaves 30+ years for an airline career with mandatory retirement at age 65 (soon to be 67). Plenty of time to advance to Capt & gain the seniority necessary to better control your sched, reduce days away from domicile base, & enjoy the benefits of the job. Advancement is much faster now due to the increasing number of retirements. Many military pilots keep flying in the Reserves or National Guard, earning a second retirement. The military is scrambling, offering more bonuses & assignment perks to retain pilots.
It's not worth pursuing, unless you really love to fly.

Pay : https://atpflightschool.com/become-a-pi ... alary.html
So the FAA is reducing how many hours you need to fly commercial? Are there different requirements for different planes? I'm guessing (have no clue) that the requirements go up based on how many souls are on board? Or am I just makin' stuff up that has no basis?
For a scheduled airline (operating under FAR part 121) the requirement for the Capt (Pilot in Command) has always been, & remains 1500 hrs for the ATP rating. For aircraft > 12,500# (virtually all sched airlines) a FAA type rating for that model acft is also reqd. The training for a Type Rating in each model aircraft is quite extensive. It a requires a separate, recurring FAA check ride for each model flown.

The bottleneck now is the rqmt for new hire First Officers (copilot). It used to be just a commercial pilot cert with instrument & multi-engine rating. By the time of the Buffalo crash in 2010, the pilot shortage had forced the Regional Airlines to hire pilots with as low as 250 hrs & forcing the pilots to pay up to $10k for their company flight & simulator training to get a job paying $20k/yr at entry level. It was a way for new pilots to gain the necessary experience to be attractive to a major airline. The Regionals became the primary farm team for the expanding major airlines & a reducing number of military pilots.

After the Buffalo crash, both Capts & FO's had to have a 1500 hr ATP, making it increasingly harder for the Regionals to hire 1500 hr pilots to feed the majors. Mandatory retirement age was increased from 60 to 65. Then the ARP Restricted rating was established, based on the reduced experience listed in my post. The Regional Airlines want to further reduce the R-ATP hours requirement, giving more credit for airline pilot simulator hours & FAA approved structured training programs. I agree with this reduction. The 1500 hr ATP FO requirement was overkill. There are few paying opportunities for a new non-military pilot to get from the 200 hr to the 1500 hrs. Pilots who couldn't get a rare job flight instructing were partnering to purchase clapped out small general aviation aircraft, just boring holes in the sky, time building, in pursuit of the 1500 hr mark. A structured program, teaching dual pilot cockpit crew ops, with access to high quality simulators, which can simulate emergencies, systems failures & all weather conditions are much more valuable than "time building". European airlines have long done it this way.

https://www.raa.org/raa-testifies-at-ho ... -training/

The pilot's union for the Major Airlines (ALPA) opposes any measure that increases the number of qualified job applicants.
They like the pilot shortage just fine... they got theirs.
https://www.raa.org/alpa-pilot-shortage ... he-record/
https://www.raa.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... -2022_.pdf

see below -- path 3 allows the reduced hrs already in place for the R-ATP rating.
payhs 3+4 are used by foreign aitrlines.
https://clearedtodream.org/become-an-ai ... come-pilot
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a fan wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:43 pm
old salt wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:27 pm We are experiencing a growing commercial pilot shortage in the US caused by several factors, including the retirement of Vietnam era military trained pilots & a large increase in the flight hours based entry level requirement for an Airline Transport Pilot rating, resulting from the 2010 regional airliner crash in Buffalo. The airlines & flight training industry are collaborating & scrambling to meet this shortfall. More colleges & JuCos are developing programs. There have never been more pathways available, both civil, military or combined. I wish I were starting over. If anyone wants my advice, shoot me a PM.

https://www.ccbcmd.edu/Programs-and-Cou ... --airplane
https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/degrees/ ... nal-flight
https://und.edu/programs/commercial-avi ... index.html
The pay and hours must be really bad. There has to be 100’s of military pilots each year leaving the Service for civilian life. You’d think that’d be an easy transition opportunity.
Huh. My nephew's HS sweetheart moved away from getting her Masters in graphic design, and enrolled in United's (I think that's the right airline) program for pilots. She's already a certified instructor, and is burning through the required hours. She loves it.

Those dinky planes scare the beejuzus out of me....but she got the bug, OS. LOVES it.
She's on the right track. Since she already has an undergrad degree, is she just pursuing the fight portion ?
Is the program thru a college & does it lead to an aviation degree ? Will it qualify here for R-ATP at 1000 or 1250 hrs ?
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One way to answer the pilot shortage is to have at least a sensible passenger rail network
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ardilla secreta wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:15 am One way to answer the pilot shortage is to have at least a sensible passenger rail network
We used to have that. Inter and intra city.
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