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Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:05 pm
by stupefied
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:27 am FFG Junior says Hobart needs to come out with their minds wrapped up like this! (He’s right)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JF8oSxXtM
Hobart starts are not a problem. Need to approach 2h same as 1h

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:54 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Smart TO after RMU goal but still needed LK to make a doorstep
Save.

Clark could’ve ruined Baltzer knee on that clear. Either bad or out of control.

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:00 pm
by Farfromgeneva
It’s been all man dodging second half of Q2 vs 8g and 5 assisted liek they are the RMU way over aggressive stick hacking and beat the man but are completely unable to finish.

Watching on phone in car is Herlihy playing?

45 (Horton?) playing pretty well

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:04 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Tired of watching this year after year of blown leads, lack of composure.

Like DeWall preaching discipline and being a tough guy and we lead the LL in penalties every year. The pregame se of discipline and tough guys stuff is just kabuki theater for the administration it’s rice paper thin facade.

And yeah RMU pretty dirty. I hope we don’t let them get away with knocking kids down from behind 29 yards away from the play anymore or tackling knees from the side.

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:05 pm
by Farfromgeneva
10/23 SOG, around 45% on cage

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:17 pm
by FMUBart
Frustrating defense and offense.. D seems to slide when they don’t need to and they don’t slide when they should :shock: Sick of seeing shooters drop stick low and shoot low… had a chance to really put some distance on RoMo and shooting accuracy was lousy. Hoping we don’t repeat the second half meltdowns; this meltdown may have started earlier!

Off to Charlotte…

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:12 pm
by FL-GO
It wasn’t pretty but it’s a road win against a solid RoMo team.

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:49 am
by GeneralBart
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:13 pm
I’m super bused on upstate NY vs Balt area in general and chalk Barthlemes style to his St Paul’s/MIAA upbringing.
So . . .how you like Barthleme now??? Injuries have hampered his career, but yesterday he showed what he can do. There is a reason he plays up top middie on man up.

As for SP, Bart has benefited from a string of SP grads in the last ten years. The coaches need to continue to recruit the MIAA. These kids from small private schools where the experience close personal relationships with teachers and coaches should be attracted to Hobart. There is a reason Bart is playing in Sparks next weekend.

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:13 am
by Farfromgeneva
GeneralBart wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:49 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:13 pm
I’m super bused on upstate NY vs Balt area in general and chalk Barthlemes style to his St Paul’s/MIAA upbringing.
So . . .how you like Barthleme now??? Injuries have hampered his career, but yesterday he showed what he can do. There is a reason he plays up top middie on man up.

As for SP, Bart has benefited from a string of SP grads in the last ten years. The coaches need to continue to recruit the MIAA. These kids from small private schools where the experience close personal relationships with teachers and coaches should be attracted to Hobart. There is a reason Bart is playing in Sparks next weekend.
I’ve always liked Barthelme just viewed him as a skilled passer and shooter, not someone who’s backing a guy down like a Frank Brown did or a Sean Murphy might try to Bull dodge a D man at 5’7”. And his leg injuries make me more skeptical of him alley dodging or sweeping across unless it’s the loooong slow ones Tyler Cassell did which were effective vs bottom half of D1 opponents but outside one Syracuse game didn’t work as much vs. top 25 comp.

And, one game…hope he does it again.

I agree we should do more in the midatlantic but that doesn’t change my wildly reductive generalized view that CNY/upstate is like Canadian Hockey players and Mid Atlantic is like those sweet skating Eastern European highly skilled ones who need the Marty McSorelys. There’s a reason Gretzky insisted on the kings trading for him. Who’s from SP or MIAA? Lewellyn? Romm was somewhere else right? Opsahl was Landon and then moved. Darden was B (Glenelg). Sheetz blew out. I’d like to have more.

We need the depth and experience too. Havent had lot of our top 30 rotation kids play in all five games due to various injuries or whatnot. Herlihy was out. Considine listed as 3 games but really two. Duby and Horton haven’t played much if at all. Datellas out a game. Etc.

We have one kid in double digit scoring w Dattellas having 20pts through 4 games but eight kids w 5pts or more (again most haven’t played in all five) plus Barthelme at 4 and Ward at 3. Peterkin considered a top FR offensive player at 2pts but figure he will pop off at some point as he looks the part. This always felt like a 2018 rebuild but there’s a path to a winning season here and if I’m even close to direct that this rebuild leads to a 2019 type follow on season. Challenges are being down to perhaps one beaten up FOGO, unclear on Schoefields health and LK at 48% while we’ve given up over 220 shots this season (45+/game). If we can hold up at FOGO, get some health on D and keep teams under 40 shots in games there’s a lot of runway for a very nice season still.

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:43 am
by Ketch
GeneralBart wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:49 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:13 pm
I’m super bused on upstate NY vs Balt area in general and chalk Barthlemes style to his St Paul’s/MIAA upbringing.
So . . .how you like Barthleme now??? Injuries have hampered his career, but yesterday he showed what he can do. There is a reason he plays up top middie on man up.

As for SP, Bart has benefited from a string of SP grads in the last ten years. The coaches need to continue to recruit the MIAA. These kids from small private schools where the experience close personal relationships with teachers and coaches should be attracted to Hobart. There is a reason Bart is playing in Sparks next weekend.
Not to be too particular, but Barthleme still has a tendency to wade into double (and sometimes triple) teams when playing even up offense. I saw him do it again yesterday. He needs to learn how to get rid of the ball in those circumstances. Clean that up and he will indeed be a force.

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:17 am
by GeneralBart
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:13 am
GeneralBart wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:49 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:13 pm
I’m super bused on upstate NY vs Balt area in general and chalk Barthlemes style to his St Paul’s/MIAA upbringing.
So . . .how you like Barthleme now??? Injuries have hampered his career, but yesterday he showed what he can do. There is a reason he plays up top middie on man up.

As for SP, Bart has benefited from a string of SP grads in the last ten years. The coaches need to continue to recruit the MIAA. These kids from small private schools where the experience close personal relationships with teachers and coaches should be attracted to Hobart. There is a reason Bart is playing in Sparks next weekend.
I’ve always liked Barthelme just viewed him as a skilled passer and shooter, not someone who’s backing a guy down like a Frank Brown did or a Sean Murphy might try to Bull dodge a D man at 5’7”. And his leg injuries make me more skeptical of him alley dodging or sweeping across unless it’s the loooong slow ones Tyler Cassell did which were effective vs bottom half of D1 opponents but outside one Syracuse game didn’t work as much vs. top 25 comp.

And, one game…hope he doesn’t it again.

I agree we should do more in the midatlantic but that doesn’t change my wildly reductive generalized view that CNY/upstate is like Canadian Hockey players and Mid Atlantic is like those sweet skating Eastern European highly skilled ones who need the Marty McSorelys. There’s a reason Gretzky insisted on the kings trading for him. Who’s from SP or MIAA? Lewellyn? Romm was somewhere else right? Opsahl was Landon and then moved. Darden was B (Glenelg). Sheetz blew out. I’d like to have more.

We need the depth and experience too. Havent had lot of our top 30 rotation kids play in all five games due to various injuries or whatnot. Herlihy was out. Considine listed as 3 games but really two. Duby and Horton haven’t played much if at all. Datellas out a game. Etc.

We have one kid in double digit scoring w Dattellas having 20pts through 4 games but eight kids w 5pts or more (again most haven’t played in all five) plus Barthelme at 4 and Ward at 3. Peterkin considered a top FR offensive player at 2pts but figure he will pop off at some point as he looks the part. This always felt like a 2018 rebuild but there’s a path to a winning season here and if I’m even close to direct that this rebuild leads to a 2019 type follow on season. Challenges are being down to perhaps one beaten up FOGO, unclear on Schoefields health and LK at 48% while we’ve given up over 220 shots this season (45+/game). If we can hold up at FOGO, get some health on D and keep teams under 40 shots in games there’s a lot of runway for a very nice season still.
It is true that they play the “beautiful game” in the MIAA. And I do appreciate the hard-nosed players from CNY. As for other SP grads, check the 2015 roster on the website.

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:20 am
by Farfromgeneva
GeneralBart wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:17 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:13 am
GeneralBart wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:49 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:13 pm
I’m super bused on upstate NY vs Balt area in general and chalk Barthlemes style to his St Paul’s/MIAA upbringing.
So . . .how you like Barthleme now??? Injuries have hampered his career, but yesterday he showed what he can do. There is a reason he plays up top middie on man up.

As for SP, Bart has benefited from a string of SP grads in the last ten years. The coaches need to continue to recruit the MIAA. These kids from small private schools where the experience close personal relationships with teachers and coaches should be attracted to Hobart. There is a reason Bart is playing in Sparks next weekend.
I’ve always liked Barthelme just viewed him as a skilled passer and shooter, not someone who’s backing a guy down like a Frank Brown did or a Sean Murphy might try to Bull dodge a D man at 5’7”. And his leg injuries make me more skeptical of him alley dodging or sweeping across unless it’s the loooong slow ones Tyler Cassell did which were effective vs bottom half of D1 opponents but outside one Syracuse game didn’t work as much vs. top 25 comp.

And, one game…hope he doesn’t it again.

I agree we should do more in the midatlantic but that doesn’t change my wildly reductive generalized view that CNY/upstate is like Canadian Hockey players and Mid Atlantic is like those sweet skating Eastern European highly skilled ones who need the Marty McSorelys. There’s a reason Gretzky insisted on the kings trading for him. Who’s from SP or MIAA? Lewellyn? Romm was somewhere else right? Opsahl was Landon and then moved. Darden was B (Glenelg). Sheetz blew out. I’d like to have more.

We need the depth and experience too. Havent had lot of our top 30 rotation kids play in all five games due to various injuries or whatnot. Herlihy was out. Considine listed as 3 games but really two. Duby and Horton haven’t played much if at all. Datellas out a game. Etc.

We have one kid in double digit scoring w Dattellas having 20pts through 4 games but eight kids w 5pts or more (again most haven’t played in all five) plus Barthelme at 4 and Ward at 3. Peterkin considered a top FR offensive player at 2pts but figure he will pop off at some point as he looks the part. This always felt like a 2018 rebuild but there’s a path to a winning season here and if I’m even close to direct that this rebuild leads to a 2019 type follow on season. Challenges are being down to perhaps one beaten up FOGO, unclear on Schoefields health and LK at 48% while we’ve given up over 220 shots this season (45+/game). If we can hold up at FOGO, get some health on D and keep teams under 40 shots in games there’s a lot of runway for a very nice season still.
It is true that they play the “beautiful game” in the MIAA. And I do appreciate the hard-nosed players from CNY. As for other SP grads, check the 2015 roster on the website.
Forgot about Moore. Excellent player and exactly to coach Rs style. He was one of Raymond’s first pulls, someone told me he was admitted to Princeton and could’ve played there as well.

Still two, three if we throw in Lewellyn and call it a dozen years, plus maybe 2-3 other MIAA kids isn’t a lot.

There was a d man Fries but thought he was a TW player. Granted we’re not the same draw as we we’re pre 2008 but we used to get more from the MIAA and mid Atlantic in general.

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:41 am
by PDSlax
I thought Barthelme played well, but I agree that he gets into trouble with double teams. He was limping at the end of the game, and I hope he's alright. Is there any word on Dattelas? I re-watched the point in the video when he went down to see if he got hacked, but he didn't. He grabbed his leg just after he got rid of the ball, and it looked like it has his hamstring area. He's a fun player to watch, and I hope he's okay for his sake and for the team's.

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:45 am
by oldbartman
Dartmouth up on Tuesday. They have an excellent FOGO. Shea was our MVP yday. Without him in H2, we would have been in real trouble. Nice to see Bach do what we all have been waiting to see. Please repeat Chad. Considine has been a pleasant surprise. Barthelme played the best he has for the Statesmen. RMU did a good of locking off Simas. We need him to break loose. Herlihy? Maybe the coaches are holding him out for conference play. Our defense still had some major brain farts. in 5 games this season we are giving up an avg of 14 gpg. That puts at 59th according to NCAA stats. This is NOT AN IMPROVEMENT. Sotiropoulos made some nice saves but had 3 that he probably wishes he had. Add the 4 pipes that Romo had and this game could easily have ended differently. Loukas was 9 saves 12 goals allowed yday. 3 of those were on the D watching stick fakes that lead to open shots. Slides were either nonexistent or late from mid Q2 on. Glad the team is home Tuesday. They will need a much more complete game.

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:35 pm
by LeeRoggy
I think the biggest takeaway from yesterday was that we didn't tighten up in the 4th quarter and play 'not to lose'. Just felt a lot different.

It's so easy to forget how good Ted is on a game call . . . until you experience what RoMo threw out there yesterday. Yeesh.

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:54 pm
by oldbartman
LeeRoggy wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:35 pm I think the biggest takeaway from yesterday was that we didn't tighten up in the 4th quarter and play 'not to lose'. Just felt a lot different.

It's so easy to forget how good Ted is on a game call . . . until you experience what RoMo threw out there yesterday. Yeesh.
At least 3 times the Romo announcers must have been looking at the Hobart roster as they gave Hobart players names to their players.

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:06 pm
by FMUBart
PDSlax wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:41 am I thought Barthelme played well, but I agree that he gets into trouble with double teams. He was limping at the end of the game, and I hope he's alright. Is there any word on Dattelas? I re-watched the point in the video when he went down to see if he got hacked, but he didn't. He grabbed his leg just after he got rid of the ball, and it looked like it has his hamstring area. He's a fun player to watch, and I hope he's okay for his sake and for the team's.
Barthelme has gotta be more of a threat on man up…plays far too high when he’s top center— needs to step in and be a shooting threat which will open more options on the wings;especially if the opponent isn’t stringing from the crease. Shocked that he doesn’t look to shoot in that spot?!

Hope Anthony is able to play Tuesday. He’s the only reliable ball carrier back there…

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:23 pm
by FMUBart
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:06 am
FMUBart wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:59 am I’m going to zip up the Charlotte today to see JU/HPU in the Crown Classic. Looking forward to see future opponent HPU in person. Also, hoping to see Will Hardy for the ‘phins… not sure why we didn’t recruit him, at least a little?

We need to pick off at least 2 of the next 3 or the season may be ugly…
I was told that we hit Hardy "hard" but Jax made it financially beyond compelling. Good for him. Syracuse on the other hand did not from my understanding.

If you are in Savannah, that's a trip. I've driven up to the Triad a ton from Atlanta and that's 6hrs (I make it in 5 sometimes...unless you are a cop)
HPU has some talent—and small d-mids, but fast. JU goalies won the game for the phins. I say goalies, b/c they bring a different goalie when mandown(and he made some great saves, too).

Still not sure why Hobart never recruited Will Hardy? Two time HS AA and he expressed interest in us, never reciprocated…

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:20 pm
by Ketch
FMUBart wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:23 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:06 am
FMUBart wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:59 am I’m going to zip up the Charlotte today to see JU/HPU in the Crown Classic. Looking forward to see future opponent HPU in person. Also, hoping to see Will Hardy for the ‘phins… not sure why we didn’t recruit him, at least a little?

We need to pick off at least 2 of the next 3 or the season may be ugly…
I was told that we hit Hardy "hard" but Jax made it financially beyond compelling. Good for him. Syracuse on the other hand did not from my understanding.

If you are in Savannah, that's a trip. I've driven up to the Triad a ton from Atlanta and that's 6hrs (I make it in 5 sometimes...unless you are a cop)
HPU has some talent—and small d-mids, but fast. JU goalies won the game for the phins. I say goalies, b/c they bring a different goalie when mandown(and he made some great saves, too).

Still not sure why Hobart never recruited Will Hardy? Two time HS AA and he expressed interest in us, never reciprocated…
Not sure about Hobart and Will Hardy, but it would have been a perfect match, both from an academic and playing standpoint. He would have started for us from day one and had a major impact. Jax is a better and deeper team, though, so I believe it's more of a waiting situation. Bottom line, you go where you want to go and make the best of it. But hey, we've been talking about transfers. If he ever gets homesick and wants to come home and have his parents watch him all of the time... :)

Re: Hobart 2023

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:35 pm
by BigHoss
I really like this team and believe in them a ton. I think after watching this game, it could be a season altering moment. As a fan of high level sports, I’ve come to understand how learning how to win is a very difficult process. This team is pretty young and inexperienced, and they needed to learn how to win and close out a big game. As choppy as it was at times, the big takeaway should be that these guys learned how to win and they’ll be confident that they can replicate that. To me, they should be 5-2 after the Providence game. Offensively, they are dangerous and they played very well yesterday. Anthony is almost Aslanian like… not in stature but in his ability to control a game. He’s one of the best players in the A10 no question. There are so many guys who can make an impact and a different player can light it up on any given day, that’s the sign of a truly efficient offense. They are figuring it out defensively too, I thought Julian Race was extremely good when he was out there. He has Stanny Gilbertson level explosiveness. Coach picks the numbers for a reason, I think he sees that potential too. Can’t wait for Tuesday.