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Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:26 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:05 pm You should stop misrepresenting others.

Esper did a great job under extremely difficult circumstances. He served as Sec of the Army under Mattis & pursued their shared strategy to completion. Show us where I said anything negative about McGurk, Mattis, or McMaster. I hope Biden brings McGurk back into govt service.

Esper wrote his resignation letter last week. He was gone, even if Trump won, because he wouldn't deploy active duty troops on the streets of DC when rioters were threatening the WH. He bucked Trump on other issues. He served well & can leave with his head held high.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:38 pm
by old salt
Syria update from Defense One. Thank You (again) Amb Jim Jeffrey
SDF commander to Biden: "Send more troops." The Syrian Democratic Forces leader Mazlum Kobane welcomed Biden and old Obama-era hands back into the fold, in an interview with Al-Monitor. "We are optimistic about the new administration," he said. "They are in command of the situation here. They grasp its complexities. I believe they will pursue a more realistic policy." BLUF: "The United States needs to send more troops here."

Amb. Jim Jeffery is retiring — again. Secretary of State Pompeo announced that the top Syria and counter-ISIS war envoy he pulled back into service in 2018 is leaving. "Together, his Army and Foreign Service careers span 45 years of exceptional service. Indeed, Ambassador Jeffrey epitomizes the very best of our diplomatic corps. Jim is an American patriot of the highest order."

A force of words, Jeffrey was known for straight-talk through a hard Boston accent. Last year he undiplomatically blasted the 2020 presidential candidates complaining about "endless wars," saying it "shows total ignorance of what's going on in the world today."

Replacements: Joel Rayburn, Jeffery's deputy, will take over the Syria portfolio. Amb. Nathan Sales, State's coordinator for counterterrorism, will become the new special envoy for the global coalition to defeat ISIS. (Reminder: ISIS is not defeated.)

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:39 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:38 pm A force of words, Jeffrey was known for straight-talk through a hard Boston accent. Last year he undiplomatically blasted the 2020 presidential candidates complaining about "endless wars," saying it "shows total ignorance of what's going on in the world today."
Told ya. Another example that shows that Biden is the right of Trump. Neo-cons, rejoice! More war! Hooray!! :roll:

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:56 pm
by old salt
a fan wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:39 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:38 pm A force of words, Jeffrey was known for straight-talk through a hard Boston accent. Last year he undiplomatically blasted the 2020 presidential candidates complaining about "endless wars," saying it "shows total ignorance of what's going on in the world today."
Told ya. Another example that shows that Biden is the right of Trump. Neo-cons, rejoice! More war! Hooray!! :roll:
You misinterpret. Jeffrey is departing. He's not speaking for Biden. He's a career diplomat (whose booze I drank in 1982). He was our Amb to Iraq under Obama & Biden when they undercut him & decided to pull out ALL our troops, leaving the door open for the rise of ISIS. Pompeo brought him back to help as we finished off ISIS & to manage the Iraq/Syria portfolio.

Jeffrey''s not a neo-con war hawk. He's a "cooler" who comes in to clean up the messes others created. That's what he's been doing in Syria & Iraq, which prompted his response to the 2020 campaign rhetoric which would undercut the good work he's been doing to get us out in an orderly fashion.

There's nothing in what I posted to indicate that Biden intends to increase our war efforts in the ME.
He may do so, or he may not. Too soon to speculate.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:07 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:56 pm You misinterpret. Jeffrey is departing. He's not speaking for Biden. He's a career diplomat (whose booze I drank in 1982).
Nice!
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:56 pm Jeffrey''s not a neo-con war hawk. He's a "cooler" who comes in to clean up the messes others created. That's what he's been doing in Syria & Iraq, which prompted his response to the 2020 campaign rhetoric which would undercut the good work he's been doing to get us out in an orderly fashion.
I think maybe I worded my post poorly. I wasn't calling Jeffrey a hawk---I was calling Biden a SOP War hawk that's going to undo the tiny steps -----welcome steps------Trump took to get us out of these pointless wars and useless treaties (NATO).
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:56 pm There's nothing in what I posted to indicate that Biden intends to increase our war efforts in the ME.
He may do so, or he may not. Too soon to speculate.
What he's going to do is "signal" to or allies that we're back in the role of Global cop. That means everything from money, to troops, to overseas visits, and everything else under the sun.

Sure, it's too soon, because he hasn't taken office yet. But that's what's coming. He's going to "undo" what Trump did it terms of withdrawal. It's obvious that that's what's coming.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:09 pm
by CU88
Suckers and Losers!

IMPOTUS o d was late, making veterans wait in the rain at Arlington for 20 minutes and missed the significance of the moment of silence at 11am on 11/11. He stayed for 6 minutes and did not speak. He has nothing else on his schedule today.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:15 pm
by jhu72
CU88 wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:09 pm Suckers and Losers!

IMPOTUS o d was late, making veterans wait in the rain at Arlington for 20 minutes and missed the significance of the moment of silence at 11am on 11/11. He stayed for 6 minutes and did not speak. He has nothing else on his schedule today.
... well you have to understand, he is depressed. He is a delicate snowflake.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:43 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
CU88 wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:09 pm Suckers and Losers!

IMPOTUS o d was late, making veterans wait in the rain at Arlington for 20 minutes and missed the significance of the moment of silence at 11am on 11/11. He stayed for 6 minutes and did not speak. He has nothing else on his schedule today.
He had to get back for Hot Bench.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:37 pm
by old salt
Trump Admin plans flood of sanctions on Iran by Jan 20th.

https://www.axios.com/trump-administrat ... 9e974.html

I trust the wiretaps of Biden campaign & transition staffers are in place.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:45 pm
by njbill
No need. They already have Hunter’s laptop.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:34 am
by CU88
How soon until IMPOTUS o d is out of the WH does he start selling State Secrets to pay off his personal debts?

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:44 am
by ardilla secreta
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:43 pm
CU88 wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:09 pm Suckers and Losers!

IMPOTUS o d was late, making veterans wait in the rain at Arlington for 20 minutes and missed the significance of the moment of silence at 11am on 11/11. He stayed for 6 minutes and did not speak. He has nothing else on his schedule today.
He had to get back for Hot Bench.
More like a Hot Pocket

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:29 am
by dislaxxic
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:37 pm Trump Admin plans flood of sanctions on Iran by Jan 20th.

https://www.axios.com/trump-administrat ... 9e974.html

I trust the wiretaps of Biden campaign & transition staffers are in place.
Team Biden may need to rush to assure Iran and other Trump targets to hold out til 1/20/21

What is Don the Con's Executive Order count up to by now? Thank goodness conservatives won't utter a peep of opposition when Biden starts governing by EO next January. What was their attitude about Obama EO's again?

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Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:59 am
by holmes435
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:29 am What is Don the Con's Executive Order count up to by now? Thank goodness conservatives won't utter a peep of opposition when Biden starts governing by EO next January. What was their attitude about Obama EO's again?

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They're already foaming at the mouth about non-executive orders.

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Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:41 pm
by seacoaster
holmes435 wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:59 am
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:29 am What is Don the Con's Executive Order count up to by now? Thank goodness conservatives won't utter a peep of opposition when Biden starts governing by EO next January. What was their attitude about Obama EO's again?

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They're already foaming at the mouth about non-executive orders.

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Bing!!!! The GOP:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-qanon ... nspiracies

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:42 pm
by a fan
holmes435 wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:59 am
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:29 am What is Don the Con's Executive Order count up to by now? Thank goodness conservatives won't utter a peep of opposition when Biden starts governing by EO next January. What was their attitude about Obama EO's again?

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They're already foaming at the mouth about non-executive orders.

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:lol: I think it's HILARIOUS that Republicans think that their party will "go back to normal' when Trump leaves. :lol:

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:12 pm
by CU88
Good thing there is nothing important going on in the USA or World today...

r's love their hero's focus on things that matter!



Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
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@FoxNews daytime ratings have completely collapsed. Weekend daytime even WORSE. Very sad to watch this happen, but they forgot what made them successful, what got them there. They forgot the Golden Goose. The biggest difference between the 2016 Election, and 2020, was
@FoxNews !

11:10 AM · Nov 12, 2020·

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:11 pm
by old salt
Bingo ! When Trump made the latest changes to top DoD leadership, given the CV's of the 2 civilian appointees, I suspected it might be to unlock the trove of Spygate documents in the ONA & to reveal if Stefan Halper's contract served as a slush fund for spying on the Trump campaign. Those positions would also have access to NSA & DNI intel on spygate & the Russia hoax. Just more evidence for the Spygate/Russia witch hunt narrative for his 2024 return from Elba.

FNC's Jennifer Griffin reported this today from the Pentagon
" ...removing officials who disagreed with the President on ...declassifying intelligence the President hoped would exonerate him in the Russian probe..."

We may finally get a look at Azra Turk.

Griffin also mentioned possible Afghan & ME troop withdrawals when she mentioned MacGregor, but I doubt there's sufficient time left to pull that off. MacGregor may just be a parting shot boogeyman to shake up our NATO ally freeriders.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:24 am
by njbill
old salt wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:11 pm Just more evidence for the Spygate/Russia witch hunt narrative for his 2024 return from Elba.
No worries. He’ll be in St. Helena aka Super Max by then.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:48 am
by old salt
njbill wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:24 am
old salt wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:11 pm Just more evidence for the Spygate/Russia witch hunt narrative for his 2024 return from Elba.
No worries. He’ll be in St. Helena aka Super Max by then.
But the return from Elba will be epic. I'll need to borrow a motorcycle to join the Imperial Guard Rolling Thunder motorcade escort from Andrews, along Suitland Pkwy, to the White House. It will be a glorious 100 days.

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/napole ... one-m.html

Update re, the new DoD appointees :

From the NYT : So far, there is no evidence the appointees harbor a secret agenda or arrived with an action plan..."

On FNC, Gen Jack Keane, was uncharacteristically annoyed with the attention the story is generating, saying it's sad to see even FNC reporters hyping it. He said he's not concerned at all & this is one of those stories that gets completely out of hand.

Keane said these appointees are " custodians " who would not be candidates for permanent second term appointments.

Keane dismissed MacGregor's past ideas, saying there's no change in withdrawal plans.

This reinforces my hunch that this is primarily to facilitate a legacy narrative document dump.