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nyjay wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:10 pm Seems like if the Jays beat Bryant, the quarterfinal game (presumably against ND) is in Annapolis.

NCAA bracket says TBD.

Either the Terps or the Jays get to go to Albany for the QF.

I propose a Greco-Roman wrestling match between Milliman and Tillman to decide.

CU77 wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:52 pm

nyjay wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:10 pm Seems like if the Jays beat Bryant, the quarterfinal game (presumably against ND) is in Annapolis.

NCAA bracket says TBD.

Either the Terps or the Jays get to go to Albany for the QF.

I propose a Greco-Roman wrestling match between Milliman and Tillman to decide.

Both are funneled to Annapolis: https://www.ncaa.com/brackets/print/lac ... en/d1/2023

The 3, 4, 5, and 6 seeds go to Annapolis. 1, 2, 7, and 8 go to Albany.

Oh, the interactive bracket still says TBD!

I'm shocked they're sending UVa v Gt to Albany, I thought that one was a no-brainer for Annapolis.

Well, good for the Jays and the Terps!

CU77 wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 11:00 pm Oh, the interactive bracket still says TBD!

I'm shocked they're sending UVa v Gt to Albany, I thought that one was a no-brainer for Annapolis.

Well, good for the Jays and the Terps!

No one will fill up Annapolis like Maryland and Johns Hopkins (other than Navy itself).

DocBarrister

CU77 wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:52 pm

nyjay wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:10 pm Seems like if the Jays beat Bryant, the quarterfinal game (presumably against ND) is in Annapolis.

NCAA bracket says TBD.

Either the Terps or the Jays get to go to Albany for the QF.

I propose a Greco-Roman wrestling match between Milliman and Tillman to decide.

Bracket says ND v Hop(assuming both win) in Annapolis. Time is TBD.

Oh well, I guess we have to call off the wrestling match ...

CU77 wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 12:18 am Oh well, I guess we have to call off the wrestling match ...

Why?

The big questions for me are:

(1) Will PM chew gum throughout the entire match; and

(2) Will Tillman consult his iPad as PM tries to pin him?

DocBarrister

JHU69 wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 12:05 am

CU77 wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:52 pm

nyjay wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:10 pm Seems like if the Jays beat Bryant, the quarterfinal game (presumably against ND) is in Annapolis.

NCAA bracket says TBD.

Either the Terps or the Jays get to go to Albany for the QF.

I propose a Greco-Roman wrestling match between Milliman and Tillman to decide.

Bracket says ND v Hop(assuming both win) in Annapolis. Time is TBD.

MD & JHU are the biggest potential attendance draw for the Annapolis QF.
If they advance past the first round, they'll both play in the Annapolis QF against different opponents.

http://cdn.assets.insidelacrosse.com/do ... t_2023.pdf

As the Blue Jays head into the tournament, I think there are three elements of their game that they need to improve if they want to go far:

(1) Improved goalie play (whoever is in goal);

(2) Limit turnovers; and

(3) Avoid the inconsistency and problematic lapses we have seen all season.

None of that is easy, but this Hopkins team works hard.

Just glad to be back in the tournament after four long years.

DocBarrister

Bryant seems to always give the blue bloods a game in the NCAA tournament...Hopkins is the better team...but can Coach Ross take his time at Navy and draw something up?

I've got my shield ready for all the incoming Hopkins arrows!

NNELax wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 7:46 am Bryant seems to always give the blue bloods a game in the NCAA tournament...Hopkins is the better team...but can Coach Ross take his time at Navy and draw something up?

I've got my shield ready for all the incoming Hopkins arrows!

I think the Jays lucked out drawing Bryant and not getting Princeton or Army.
I'm not saying Bryant is bad by any stretch and I'm sure they will put up a really tough fight, but I don't think they pose the match up problems that Princeton or Army would. This is a game the Jays can win if they play their game, limit turnovers, and stay focused.
It's better to be lucky than good, or maybe the tournament committee gave them a sympathy break due to the last three years of frustration.
Have at it 51. LOL

Kevin Groeninger should be a tough out.
I got to see him at St Margaret's Episcopal (CA) - a lot of these Cali kids don’t quite adapt to the eastern game. But Groeninger has exceeded expectations, 5th year kid.

I don't think Army is significantly better than Bryant. In fact, Bryant has won an NCAA tournament game more recently than the Black Knights have (2014, upsetting Syracuse in the Dome). Bryant plays fast and pours in a lot of goals, which is the type of opponent that can give us trouble if we're not on our A game. The matchup with Army probably would have been a slower, defensive slog and that plays into our strengths IMO. Princeton was the matchup I'm glad we avoided. If PSU makes the quarterfinal they'll have earned it.

Doesn't matter now because the seeds are what they are and the matchups are the matchups. Got a feeling the Jays are going to play well in what will be the last hoorah at Homewood for Degnon and Hawley, among others.

Oddsmakers have the Jays as a 5 goal favourite.

no common opponents
-4th in nation in gbs
-9th in scoring offense/shot percentage
-14th in faceoffs
-41st in saves
-50th in turnovers
-58th in mandown defense

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... more/61424
foy interviews the bryant coach (starts at 33) and pm (41). Typical foy not much of interest. Bryant coach "Our kids are familiar (with Hopkins) because they're on national tv all the time...you can't turn on national tv without seeing (hopkins)." Foy asks PM twice about what it means to make the ncaa tournament. How about "Does Marcille still have your trust, what happened defensively against Maryland, why did you flip the man up unit, do grimes and peshko still have your faith"

Sagittarius A* wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 8:11 am This is a game the Jays can win if they play their game, limit turnovers, and stay focused.
It's better to be lucky than good, or maybe the tournament committee gave them a sympathy break due to the last three years of frustration.
Have at it 51. LOL

So what you're saying is the team directed by the worst coach in the history of Hopkins lacrosse and you didn't see how they were ever going to get to 500 and the adminstration had either hired that coach to destroy the program OR couldn't figure out that they had hired his replacement has a chance to go to the NCAA quarterfinals??? Amazing

I on the other hand don't think the committee did the Jays any favors with the 6th seed because it means a very likely date with Notre Dame IF they defeat Bryant and while UVA (obviously) and Duke are no picnics - Notre Dame would appear to be a particularly bad match up for Hopkins. They have throttled every single opponent except for the losses to UVA and an early season match up with Maryland. Otherwise it's been carnage across the board and Dobson with the step downs and Nick Taylor with the crease cuts not to mention the bros/the goalie/the defense don't forshadow a great day in Annapolis. I would rather take on the Maryland/Army/Penn State/Princeton pod than any section that has Notre Dame.

First things first - Bryant. Obviously the competition factor is present/hard to be accounted for but any team that is throwing out 4 guys that have put the biscuit in the basket at least 40 times (OK one guy has 38) presents problems. As '06 already noted - turnovers and save percentage have not been statistical strengths. ANd does competition enter into the face-off statistic - we'll find out. Turnovers and goalie play likely to be the difference assuming face-offs do not tilt the field one way or the other - Hopkins penchant to long possessions - if they result in scores means Bryant might get impatient. SO as always it comes down to possessions - maximize the possessions - you'll get scoring opportunities and then you'll have to call Lars and ask him how he handles Notre Dame.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:16 am Got a feeling the Jays are going to play well in what will be the last hoorah at Homewood for Degnon and Hawley, among others.

Is there something I should know about Hawley? While I can well imagine he might have employment and want to get on with things - he has another year of eligibility (Can get a medical redshirt for 2021).
The only long timers that are clearly playing their last game on Homewood Field as Blue Jays are Degnon and Narewski. They are joined by the two transfer goalies and Mazzone ( ). Otherwise theoretically anything can happen. Hopefully we will have until May 30th to ponder these questions

51percentcorn wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 12:58 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:16 am Got a feeling the Jays are going to play well in what will be the last hoorah at Homewood for Degnon and Hawley, among others.

Is there something I should know about Hawley? While I can well imagine he might have employment and want to get on with things - he has another year of eligibility (Can get a medical redshirt for 2021).
The only long timers that are clearly playing their last game on Homewood Field as Blue Jays are Degnon and Narewski. They are joined by the two transfer goalies and Mazzone ( ). Otherwise theoretically anything can happen. Hopefully we will have until May 30th to ponder these questions

Nope just assuming he'll be gone because it'd be his 6th year. Would love to have him back if he wants to pull a Chris Boland.

51percentcorn wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 12:31 pm I on the other hand don't think the committee did the Jays any favors with the 6th seed because it means a very likely date with Notre Dame IF they defeat Bryant and while UVA (obviously) and Duke are no picnics - Notre Dame would appear to be a particularly bad match up for Hopkins. They have throttled every single opponent except for the losses to UVA and an early season match up with Maryland. Otherwise it's been carnage across the board and Dobson with the step downs and Nick Taylor with the crease cuts not to mention the bros/the goalie/the defense don't forshadow a great day in Annapolis. I would rather take on the Maryland/Army/Penn State/Princeton pod than any section that has Notre Dame.

We need to take care of Bryant first so this will be the first and last thing I say on a possible ND matchup but the one silver lining there might be the faceoff dot. The Irish can generate extra possessions via the ride but we should at least be able to go 50/50 or better on faceoffs which would limit their ability to go on big runs — a theme of some of our losses this year (PSU). It's the one and only "weakness" of their game if you can call it that. They play methodical on offense like us, so I think they'd be less likely to just completely run away with it than some other teams. If you can keep it within striking distance...maybe the "hometown" Annapolis crowd can nudge the Jays into the upset. Would be a good time for Pat Deans and the transition game/pole goals to show up.

But yes, Bryant first. I must admit I don't know much about their offense apart from what I see on the stat sheet and they've got a couple guys from the midwest who play like Canadians. Laliberte has good FO numbers but between our Holy Trinity and wing play I like our odds of battling that to a draw or close to it.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 1:12 pm Nope just assuming he'll be gone because it'd be his 6th year. Would love to have him back if he wants to pull a Chris Boland.

Reasonable assumption - maybe we'll get lucky and his grad program is two years.

One stat I noticed - I wondered how Bryant essentially has 100 more ground balls than Hopkins while playing the same number of games. One of the answers is that the Bulldogs two headed face-off monster wins a very high percentage of face-offs to themselves - Alexander has 89 face-off wins and 59 ground balls while Laiberte has 189 wins and 111 ground balls - therefore Mssrs Hawley and Mazzone have a crucial roll to play as well as Dunn Narewski who must at least tie them up and stop front door roll outs

51percentcorn wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 3:56 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 1:12 pm Nope just assuming he'll be gone because it'd be his 6th year. Would love to have him back if he wants to pull a Chris Boland.

Reasonable assumption - maybe we'll get lucky and his grad program is two years.

One stat I noticed - I wondered how Bryant essentially has 100 more ground balls than Hopkins while playing the same number of games. One of the answers is that the Bulldogs two headed face-off monster wins a very high percentage of face-offs to themselves - Alexander has 89 face-off wins and 59 ground balls while Laiberte has 189 wins and 111 ground balls - therefore Mssrs Hawley and Mazzone have a crucial roll to play as well as Dunn Narewski who must at least tie them up and stop front door roll outs

The one interesting thing from the PM interview with Foy, who like quint and the rest of the lacrosse media needs to cut the bs and ask more direct questions about what's happening on and off the field, was talking about how hard it is to deal with an opponent like Bryant when you haven't played them and don't have any common opponents. Add in the fact that it's a coach in his first year and for a may game it has a bit of a feel of an early february game from his comments to Foy. I'm not sure how many other teams there are in the field that we either haven't played or don't have any common opponents with. He referenced Jacksonville last year as a similar situation.

If the program needs any motivation carc on quints podcast referred to Notre Dame's bracket "As a cakewalk to memorial day weekend ".