Re: Johns Hopkins 2021
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:05 pm
If it's injury related, which seems logical, have to wonder why the coach didn't at least hint about that. Otherwise, look at all the speculation.
OmgSagittarius A* wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:09 pm I don't like it at all that the Coach just threw his best player under the bus in the newspaper.
The team just hit rock bottom in the BIG and Instead of accepting responsibility and saying," It's my fault. The team wasn't properly prepared etc," he starts calling out his players. NO. That never works.
Benching the kid says it all. That's more than enough motivation.
Milliman has one strike against him coming in the door. He's not a Hopkins alumnus.
We've never had a coach work out for us that wasn't. Sorry, but that's the truth.
Now, this nonsense is not acceptable. It's bad look for the University, the Athletic Department, and the program.
NOT NOT ACCEPTABLE on any level. That's a second BIG strike against him.
The team lost because of the bad decisions of the coaching staff. A coach who can't look himself in the eye and admit his own mistakes isn't worth a dime. Don't see a positive future here right now. Sorry if you don't like that.
AgreedFlyEaglesFly wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:07 pm Umm Bernhardt would absolutely be in the Top 50 in scoring in that offense. Or any offense for that matter.
I think by saying Epstein was a top 10 player, he was making a comparison to Bernhardt, who is certainly a top 10 player.jrn19 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:45 pmNot to speak for Wheels, but he wasn't comparing Bernhardt to Epstein; he was saying that Bernhardt wouldn't be putting up #'s in Hopkins offense either. Bernhardt's clearly the better player right now but that doesn't mean he'd be up near the top in an offense that is definitely still trying to put pieces together and lacks consistent dodging threat, either.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:42 pmseriously. bernhardt looks like superman out there at times. maybe he gets tripped up in a future game, but this is getting a little cray.a fan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:27 pmYes to both. Elite attackmen score, and score a lot. It's not like we're discussing defensemen here.Wheels wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:59 am Are you seriously asking why Joey isn't in the Top 50 in the country in scoring for a team that averages 10 goals per game? Or are you suggesting that if he is, as I think he is, a Top 10 player in the country why isn't he lifting Hopkins to more than 10 goals per game?
That would make sense, except you forgot that DeSimone is on that Top 50 list.
He's not scoring at an elite level. I don't think it's a criminal offense to point out the obvious. I'm not trying to demean him, or his team.
You've been around for a while....how many times have we found out that a kid having a year that disappoints fans....was simply struggling through injuries, and not complaining about it?
epstein, for a frosh in particular, produced. they needed him to, imo. and he delivered. what he becomes next, we'll see and his injury was unfortunate.
but now bernhardt present day comparisons are just silly.
I don't. JHU lacrosse is fascinating!
yes, i saw what he wtote. and what you just stated, to me, is a comparison to #1.jrn19 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:45 pmNot to speak for Wheels, but he wasn't comparing Bernhardt to Epstein; he was saying that Bernhardt wouldn't be putting up #'s in Hopkins offense either. Bernhardt's clearly the better player right now but that doesn't mean he'd be up near the top in an offense that is definitely still trying to put pieces together and lacks consistent dodging threat, either.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:42 pmseriously. bernhardt looks like superman out there at times. maybe he gets tripped up in a future game, but this is getting a little cray.a fan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:27 pmYes to both. Elite attackmen score, and score a lot. It's not like we're discussing defensemen here.Wheels wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:59 am Are you seriously asking why Joey isn't in the Top 50 in the country in scoring for a team that averages 10 goals per game? Or are you suggesting that if he is, as I think he is, a Top 10 player in the country why isn't he lifting Hopkins to more than 10 goals per game?
That would make sense, except you forgot that DeSimone is on that Top 50 list.
He's not scoring at an elite level. I don't think it's a criminal offense to point out the obvious. I'm not trying to demean him, or his team.
You've been around for a while....how many times have we found out that a kid having a year that disappoints fans....was simply struggling through injuries, and not complaining about it?
epstein, for a frosh in particular, produced. they needed him to, imo. and he delivered. what he becomes next, we'll see and his injury was unfortunate.
but now bernhardt present day comparisons are just silly.
I think that last sentence ios the most important. Sure, you could have both Desimone and Epstein alternate operating from X, but Desimone has shown that he's not as effective initiating from the wing, whereas Epstein appears to be particularly dangerous there. I don't think it necessarily minimizes Epstein to have him on the wing, but I do know that if all he is doing out there is volume shooting from GLE, that's not maximizing his game. Let him initiate out there to create for himself and others. Then you could have Desimone doing his thing from X and its a win-win.ohmilax34 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:34 pmI don't. JHU lacrosse is fascinating!
Is Epstein playing almost exclusively on the wing these days? Would Epstein be better of if he played behind the goal more? Would the offense be better if he and Desimone could both play behind the goal? I don't mean the both are behind the goal at all times. Teams have had 2 guys who can dodge from X. Syracuse had Josh Coffman and Mike Powell in 2002. They combined for almost 9 points a game. Epstein is a talented wing shooter, and like some have pointed out, he may injured and his dodging effectiveness might be limited by that.
I know wing initiation is trending now. There are stats to support it as an effective strategy, even compared to initiating from X.
The wing dodge and feed he made to Desimone was awesome.
I know you're joking but this is what I was talking about earlier re: the talent discussion. According to the prevailing HS ranking system, Michigan SHOULD be just as good as Hopkins. Zawada, Bonomi, Shriber, Boehm, Clay, Rowlett—these are all IL top 50 players. About the same amount of high-end talent as Hop has. Zawada and Boehm in particular would be playing on any team. jhu06 scoffs at this but the talent gap is not large. We should be wondering less what happened to Hopkins and more why it took Michigan so long to be competitive with the roster it does have. They're not yet at a place where they can win these games consistently but no one should be surprised anymore when Michigan steals a conference game or two. (Except against Maryland, obviously. That is still a ways away from reality.)
I had a similar email drafted and accidentally deleted it. Some idea with OSU and PSU. They're not winning a ton of lacrosse games this season and they returned a bunch of players.HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:13 pmI know you're joking but this is what I was talking about earlier re: the talent discussion. According to the prevailing HS ranking system, Michigan SHOULD be just as good as Hopkins. Zawada, Bonomi, Shriber, Boehm, Clay, Rowlett—these are all IL top 50 players. About the same amount of high-end talent as Hop has. Zawada and Boehm in particular would be playing on any team. jhu06 scoffs at this but the talent gap is not large. We should be wondering less what happened to Hopkins and more why it took Michigan so long to be competitive with the roster it does have. They're not yet at a place where they can win these games consistently but no one should be surprised anymore when Michigan steals a conference game or two. (Except against Maryland, obviously. That is still a ways away from reality.)
This is exactly it.jrn19 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:45 pm
Not to speak for Wheels, but he wasn't comparing Bernhardt to Epstein; he was saying that Bernhardt wouldn't be putting up #'s in Hopkins offense either. Bernhardt's clearly the better player right now but that doesn't mean he'd be up near the top in an offense that is definitely still trying to put pieces together and lacks consistent dodging threat, either.
I'm a big fan of Esptein's but think you are way way off. Bernhardt (and other players of his ilk such as Gray and Sowers) is just a different level player than him right now, and its goes well beyond scheme/teammates/coaching. Frankly if you throw him on Maryland's roster today, I'm not sure that there's a role for him in the starting attack given how Bernhardt, Wisnauskus, and Maltz complement each other. Even at his explosive best as a freshman, Epstein was nowhere near a top 10 player in the country. That's not a slight on Epstein, but rather a comment on just how high that summit is.Wheels wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 pmThis is exactly it.jrn19 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:45 pm
Not to speak for Wheels, but he wasn't comparing Bernhardt to Epstein; he was saying that Bernhardt wouldn't be putting up #'s in Hopkins offense either. Bernhardt's clearly the better player right now but that doesn't mean he'd be up near the top in an offense that is definitely still trying to put pieces together and lacks consistent dodging threat, either.
You put Epstein on a Top 10 team right now, and his point totals would be through the roof. Hopkins isn't playing poorly because of Epstein, Epstein is playing poorly because of Hopkins.
In 2019, as a freshman, he was 16th in the country in PPG and 12th amongst players in B1G/ACC/Ivy/BE/PL. 10th in GPG amongst players in those conferences. In his final 9 games he averaged 5.5 PPG which would have been good for 6th in the country by the end of the year. Maybe not a Top 10 player if you included defenders and goalies and FOGO’s but Top 10 attacker? He certainly was very close to that conversation and definitely in it.random observer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:08 pmI'm a big fan of Esptein's but think you are way way off. Bernhardt (and other players of his ilk such as Gray and Sowers) is just a different level player than him right now, and its goes well beyond scheme/teammates/coaching. Frankly if you throw him on Maryland's roster today, I'm not sure that there's a role for him in the starting attack given how Bernhardt, Wisnauskus, and Maltz complement each other. Even at his explosive best as a freshman, Epstein was nowhere near a top 10 player in the country. That's not a slight on Epstein, but rather a comment on just how high that summit is.Wheels wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 pmThis is exactly it.jrn19 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:45 pm
Not to speak for Wheels, but he wasn't comparing Bernhardt to Epstein; he was saying that Bernhardt wouldn't be putting up #'s in Hopkins offense either. Bernhardt's clearly the better player right now but that doesn't mean he'd be up near the top in an offense that is definitely still trying to put pieces together and lacks consistent dodging threat, either.
You put Epstein on a Top 10 team right now, and his point totals would be through the roof. Hopkins isn't playing poorly because of Epstein, Epstein is playing poorly because of Hopkins.