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Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:31 pm
by CU88
Frontloading has a stunning EC map for 2020

https://frontloading.blogspot.com/2020/ ... 62620.html

Base numbers:
Strong plus Lean to Biden = 248 EC votes
Strong plus Leans to IMPOTUS o d = 125 EC votes

Joe then only needs to win PA with its 20 EC votes and NH with its 4 EC votes to cross the 270 EC threshold.

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:38 pm
by runrussellrun
njbill wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:19 pm
6ftstick wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 am
njbill wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:18 pm Nah, not me. I’m taking my multi-vote game across the river to Pennsylvania where my four or five Biden votes will mean something.
You think we think you're kidding?

More reason to vote for the tree stump.

Nearly two-thirds of the money the Biden Cancer Initiative spent since its founding in 2017 went toward staff compensation and six-figure salaries for top executives. The group spent far less on efforts to eradicate cancer.

One of several nonprofits Joe Biden created following his tenure in the White House, the Biden Cancer Initiative paid top executives lavishly, with salaries comprising nearly 65 percent of its total expenditures. That is well above the 25 percent charity watchdogs recommend nonprofits spend on administrative overhead and fundraising costs combined.

The nonprofit raised and spent $4.8 million over its two years in operation, its 2017 and 2018 tax forms show. Slightly more than $3 million of that amount went to salaries, compensation, and benefits. At the same time, the group spent just $1.7 million on all of its other expenses. A bulk of this cash—$740,000—was poured into conferences, conventions, and meetings. It did not cut a single grant to any other group or foundation during its two-year run.

An analysis of nonprofits by Charity Navigator, which rates charities for effectiveness, found that mid-to-large-sized nonprofits paid their chief executives an average salary of $126,000 per year—far less than what the Biden Cancer Initiative paid its president, Greg Simon, who pocketed $224,539 in 2017 and $429,850 in 2018. Charity Navigator's primary criterion for rating charities is whether they "spend at least 75% of their expenses directly on their programs."

The Biden cancer group's financial disclosures may raise new questions about whether the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee allowed associates to profit off their access to him.
Hmm. Interesting that you didn’t disclose your source for that is Fox News.

and yet, the numbers , from Biden Cancer''s 990, present similar sameness. (pg. 7 for Simons salary/benies)

https://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_p ... 06_990.pdf

Just like other attempts by Trump to attack Joe, this one is dumb as a rock.

Do you really think Trump wants to go toe to toe with Joe over charities? Perhaps not, but I do. You may recall that the Trump “charity” was ordered dissolved by the court for fraudulent activity. As it should have been. His children, who were officers of the charity, have been ordered to stay out of charitable ventures for a period of time. About the only thing of significance the Trump “charity” did with its funds was buy a portrait of His Holiness and try to pay off the Florida AG so she would stop investigating the “charity.” So, councilor. Nothing to see here, at all?

Reminds you of the “health” issue Trump tried to raise about Biden. That is, until Trump couldn’t walk down that slick, icy, steep-as-Mount Everest ramp and needed a second hand to drink a glass of water.

And we don’t hear much more about “Basement Joe” after Trump became Bunker Boy.
Typical pretend.......100% of Biden Cancer's operating expenses go to people. Not ONE grant given. Here it is again.........pathetic.

Glad to know lawyers like you exist. D's, apparently, are immune from investigations.

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:46 pm
by wgdsr
CU88 wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:31 pm Frontloading has a stunning EC map for 2020

https://frontloading.blogspot.com/2020/ ... 62620.html

Base numbers:
Strong plus Lean to Biden = 248 EC votes
Strong plus Leans to IMPOTUS o d = 125 EC votes

Joe then only needs to win PA with its 20 EC votes and NH with its 4 EC votes to cross the 270 EC threshold.
we're not influencing elections here on fanlax, but polls are getting a lot of play lately everywhere. a novice, i woulda thought democrats would downplay all polls after 2016. actually would have thought that would be the playbook, along with banging the drum for the youngins to get out.
joe's basement strategy has been the right one so far, but eventually he'll have to campaign and debate. trump's warts are consistently out there for all to see. joe has never been in a presidential election as the target, his warts past and present on display.
as always, battleground states and who handles them best are gonna win the day.
what an election!!!

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:08 pm
by njbill
rrr, you do understand that Biden’s charity suspended operations last year when he decided to run for president in order to avoid conflicts of interest.

The story here is that the charity never really got off the ground. Also, it seems, they weren’t very successful with fundraising. How much did you contribute?

So, basically, it was a start up charity that seems to have failed. As with any start up, you would expect operating expenses to be disproportionally steep at the outset. Without good fundraising, you would expect the ratios of salaries and other operating expenses to grants to not be very good.

In the 990 you linked to, neither Biden nor his wife received a penny.

So what am I missing? What is the “there” that is supposed to be there? Where is the fraud like with the Trump “charity”?

I know you are not a Trump guy, but, really, he needs to try to find some issues where he might be able to get some traction. Right now he is spinning his wheels in the mud like Vinny in Alabama.

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:34 pm
by youthathletics
njbill wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:08 pm In the 990 you linked to, neither Biden nor his wife received a penny.

So what am I missing? What is the “there” that is supposed to be there?
There are zero donations, They had close to 4mm in the account. Seems salaries in excess of 200k/yr to do nothing at all, far exceeded helping others as intended.

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:16 pm
by njbill
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:34 pm
njbill wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:08 pm In the 990 you linked to, neither Biden nor his wife received a penny.

So what am I missing? What is the “there” that is supposed to be there?
There are zero donations, They had close to 4mm in the account. Seems salaries in excess of 200k/yr to do nothing at all, far exceeded helping others as intended.
Where are you getting zero donations?

The 990 rrr linked shows $3.9 million in contributions, gifts, grants, etc. Page 1, part I, line 8. Of that amount, $1 million is non-cash. Page 9, part III, line 1g. See also schedule M which indicates this $1 million non-cash contribution was a contribution of publicly traded securities. (Page 31 of the overall form).

This 990 seems to be the first one the charity filed, covering the fiscal year July 1, 2017 to 2018. On page 11, part X, line 16(A), the balance sheet shows $0 in assets at the beginning of the year.

If they didn’t get any donations, where did they get their money?

“Do nothing at all”? I highly doubt that. The charity didn’t get off the ground. Why? I don’t really know, but I suspect it was a combination of lackluster fundraising and the fact that Biden pulled the plug after only two years of operation when he decided to run for president. Maybe the guy who was president was supposed to fund raise, and maybe he didn’t do a good job at that, but you can’t say he “did nothing at all” without some evidence.

In any event, the contrast between this charity and Trump’s slush fund “charity” is pretty stark.

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:57 pm
by ggait
Democrats make cr@p businesspeople so they tend to abuse the charity game far more than normal Americans. Good catch. Maybe Joe will be arrested. You’d be if you did the same.
Cr*p businessman who abuses the rules on charity?

Ding ding ding ding. We have a winner.

Come on down Donald Trump!!!!

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:02 pm
by ggait
Democrats are the worlds dumbest when it comes to the law of unintended consequences.
As he has told us himself, Peter Brown is an expert on unintended consequences.

Like when Peter told us how a knee to the neck is unrelated to the victim's death...

Total POS that Peter Brown. Please just go away troll.

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:26 pm
by ggait
Just like other attempts by Trump to attack Joe, this one is dumb as a rock.
+100

Great idea for Trump to go after Joe as being old, unhealthy, dementia-ed, a woman abuser, and a charity abuser.

Bring it MAGAs.

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:30 pm
by ggait
we're not influencing elections here on fanlax, but polls are getting a lot of play lately everywhere. a novice, i woulda thought democrats would downplay all polls after 2016.
Totally agree.

Assume you are behind. Run through the tape. No celebrating at half time. There's a reason they play the games.

Vote vote vote vote vote!!!

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:32 pm
by a fan
6ftstick wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 am
njbill wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:18 pm Nah, not me. I’m taking my multi-vote game across the river to Pennsylvania where my four or five Biden votes will mean something.
You think we think you're kidding?

More reason to vote for the tree stump.

Nearly two-thirds of the money the Biden Cancer Initiative spent since its founding in 2017 went toward staff compensation and six-figure salaries for top executives. The group spent far less on efforts to eradicate cancer.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yep, Biden is a corrupt POS.....but getting lectures on this from you and Pete who have cheered every corrupt POS move Trump has ever made? :lol: :lol:

If Biden wins, get ready to hear the nonstop excuses you've been handing us for four years.

I can start now: hey 6ft! What's with this nonstop negative stories deal with FoxNews against Biden?!?

Biden can't govern in this negative environment, 6ft, right!! The media is being SO MEAN to Biden, and this has NEVER happened before to a President.

Poor Joe Biden! :lol: ;)

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:43 pm
by CU77
ggait wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:30 pm
we're not influencing elections here on fanlax, but polls are getting a lot of play lately everywhere. a novice, i woulda thought democrats would downplay all polls after 2016.
Totally agree.

Assume you are behind. Run through the tape. No celebrating at half time. There's a reason they play the games.

Vote vote vote vote vote!!!
Polls are getting a lot of play by the media, but read the comments sections: TONS of people saying ignore the polls: organize, register, vote. Even if the polls are right, the trumpistas are going to cheat as massively as they possibly can. There have to be enough votes to overwhelm the creating.

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:56 pm
by seacoaster
Make America Sick Again:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

"In the hours before his rally in Tulsa, President Trump’s campaign directed the removal of thousands of “Do Not Sit Here, Please!” stickers from seats in the arena that were intended to establish social distance between rallygoers, according to video and photos obtained by The Washington Post and a person familiar with the event.

The removal contradicted instructions from the management of the BOK Center, the 19,000-seat arena in downtown Tulsa where Trump held his rally on June 20. At the time, coronavirus cases were rising sharply in Tulsa County, and Trump faced intense criticism for convening a large crowd for an indoor political rally, his first such event since the start of the pandemic.

As part of its safety plan, arena management had purchased 12,000 do-not-sit stickers for Trump’s rally, intended to keep people apart by leaving open seats between attendees. On the day of the rally, event staff had already affixed them on nearly every other seat in the arena when Trump’s campaign told event management to stop and then began removing the stickers, hours before the president’s arrival, according to a person familiar with the event who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal matters.

In a video clip obtained by The Washington Post, two men — one in a suit and one wearing a badge and a face mask — can be seen pulling stickers off seats in a section of the arena. It is unclear who those two men are. When Trump took the stage on Saturday evening, the crowd was clustered together and attendees were not leaving empty seats between themselves.

The actions by Trump’s campaign were first reported Friday by Billboard Magazine. As rally preparations were underway, Trump’s campaign staff intervened with the venue manager, ASM Global, and told them to stop labeling seats in this way, Doug Thornton, executive vice president of ASM Global, told the magazine.

“They also told us that they didn’t want any signs posted saying we should social distance in the venue,” Thornton said. “The campaign went through and removed the stickers.”

A spokesman for ASM Global declined to comment.

Trump campaign spokesman Tim Murtaugh did not directly respond to questions about the sticker removal.

“The rally was in full compliance with local requirements. In addition, every rally attendee received a temperature check prior to admission, was given a face mask, and provided ample access to hand sanitizer,” Murtaugh said in an emailed statement.

In a separate statement, the campaign said: “There were signs posted and we are not aware of any campaign staff asking that they be removed.”

Trump held his Tulsa rally despite opposition by Oklahoma health authorities and residents who feared that convening a large crowd indoors could accelerate the spread of the coronavirus. The number of coronavirus cases in Tulsa County was spiking in the days leading up to the rally and has continued to increase since.

The director of the Tulsa Health Department, Bruce Dart, had recommended that the event be postponed until it was safer. A number of city residents and business owners brought a lawsuit against the venue manager, ASM Global, seeking to require all attendees wear masks and adhere to social distancing guidelines from health authorities.

The Oklahoma Supreme Court rejected that suit.

On June 13, a week before the rally, Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt (R) wrote to the venue management saying he understood that Trump’s campaign “has presented plans to ASM Global in order to accommodate capacity crowds during a political rally.”

Stitt noted that Oklahoma was in “Phase 3” of its reopening plan and Trump’s rally “proceeding as planned is consistent with the guidance” of that plan. Stitt’s letter added that “we have also encouraged event licensees to refer to the general CDC guidelines for more information about COVID-19.”

Two days before the rally, the managers of the BOK Center had asked the Trump campaign to provide a detailed written plan outlining the “health and safety” measures it intended to use to prevent the spread of coronavirus.

Before the rally, Murtaugh said in an emailed statement: “We take safety seriously, which is why we're doing temperature checks for everyone attending, and providing masks and hand sanitizer. This will be a Trump rally, which means a big, boisterous, excited crowd. We don’t recall the media shaming demonstrators about social distancing — in fact the media were cheering them on.”

As the crowd entered the day of the rally, the Trump campaign handed out masks and small bottles of “Make America Great Again 2020” branded hand sanitizer.

The BOK Center also put down floor decals in front of concession areas and put up plexiglass to protect vendors.

At 1:47 p.m. that day, Fox 23 News posted on its Facebook page a photo from inside the BOK Center showing two members of the event staff putting stickers on seats. “Stickers are going on every other seat in the BOK Center saying ‘Do Not Sit Here’ to try to spread the crowd out for President Trump’s rally tonight,” the post read.

After the majority of the stickers were in place, a member of Trump’s campaign radioed staff in the event war room where arena management was monitoring preparations and told them to stop, according to the person familiar with the event. Event staff was told to continue applying the stickers. Later, the campaign began pulling them off, the person said.

In video footage of Trump’s rally, there appeared to be no effort to keep an empty seat between attendees.

Attendance turned out to be less than Trump expected — he had said some 1 million people wanted tickets — and the arena was not full, particularly in the upper level.

Trump had wanted every seat packed, and he told advisers coming in on Air Force One and at the arena he was displeased that the crowd was not larger, said two Trump advisers, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to relay private conversations.

“He was quite angry,” said one person who interacted with him.

Trump had told Gov. Roy Cooper during a May 29 phone call that he would not hold a socially-distanced convention in Charlotte because he had never had an empty seat since he came down the escalator at the start of his presidential campaign in 2015.

Neither Trump nor the White House asked that the stickers be removed, said a senior White House official. While campaign staff and some attendees wore masks during the rally, many rallygoers did not.

At least six members of the Trump campaign advance staff have tested positive for coronavirus, including two Secret Service employees. Dozens of Secret Service officers and agents who attended the Tulsa rally were ordered to self-quarantine.

Since the rally, coronavirus cases in Tulsa County hit a new high of 259 new confirmed cases on June 23
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Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:19 pm
by njbill
The fire marshal had the last laugh. I imagine Trump sent him a letter asking him to apologize.

Here is Stephen Colbert’s take on the rally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyJe5NPj4jc

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:34 pm
by Peter Brown
CU77 wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:43 pm
ggait wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:30 pm
we're not influencing elections here on fanlax, but polls are getting a lot of play lately everywhere. a novice, i woulda thought democrats would downplay all polls after 2016.
Totally agree.

Assume you are behind. Run through the tape. No celebrating at half time. There's a reason they play the games.

Vote vote vote vote vote!!!
Polls are getting a lot of play by the media, but read the comments sections: TONS of people saying ignore the polls: organize, register, vote. Even if the polls are right, the trumpistas are going to cheat as massively as they possibly can. There have to be enough votes to overwhelm the creating.


The database runs 98% to 2% Democrat over Republican. And that will soon go to 99.9999999% Democratic. Dems feel that voting fraud is worth the ends, so of course they'll cheat.

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:37 pm
by wgdsr
CU77 wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:43 pm
ggait wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:30 pm
we're not influencing elections here on fanlax, but polls are getting a lot of play lately everywhere. a novice, i woulda thought democrats would downplay all polls after 2016.
Totally agree.

Assume you are behind. Run through the tape. No celebrating at half time. There's a reason they play the games.

Vote vote vote vote vote!!!
Polls are getting a lot of play by the media, but read the comments sections: TONS of people saying ignore the polls: organize, register, vote. Even if the polls are right, the trumpistas are going to cheat as massively as they possibly can. There have to be enough votes to overwhelm the creating.
not sure that's the demographic of folks that are up in the air about voting?

looks like we got both sides evenly prepping for an old school latin america style election, let's see who has the bigger guns!

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:47 pm
by 6ftstick
njbill wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:19 pm
6ftstick wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 am
njbill wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:18 pm Nah, not me. I’m taking my multi-vote game across the river to Pennsylvania where my four or five Biden votes will mean something.
You think we think you're kidding?

More reason to vote for the tree stump.

Nearly two-thirds of the money the Biden Cancer Initiative spent since its founding in 2017 went toward staff compensation and six-figure salaries for top executives. The group spent far less on efforts to eradicate cancer.

One of several nonprofits Joe Biden created following his tenure in the White House, the Biden Cancer Initiative paid top executives lavishly, with salaries comprising nearly 65 percent of its total expenditures. That is well above the 25 percent charity watchdogs recommend nonprofits spend on administrative overhead and fundraising costs combined.

The nonprofit raised and spent $4.8 million over its two years in operation, its 2017 and 2018 tax forms show. Slightly more than $3 million of that amount went to salaries, compensation, and benefits. At the same time, the group spent just $1.7 million on all of its other expenses. A bulk of this cash—$740,000—was poured into conferences, conventions, and meetings. It did not cut a single grant to any other group or foundation during its two-year run.

An analysis of nonprofits by Charity Navigator, which rates charities for effectiveness, found that mid-to-large-sized nonprofits paid their chief executives an average salary of $126,000 per year—far less than what the Biden Cancer Initiative paid its president, Greg Simon, who pocketed $224,539 in 2017 and $429,850 in 2018. Charity Navigator's primary criterion for rating charities is whether they "spend at least 75% of their expenses directly on their programs."

The Biden cancer group's financial disclosures may raise new questions about whether the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee allowed associates to profit off their access to him.
Hmm. Interesting that you didn’t disclose your source for that is Fox News.

Just like other attempts by Trump to attack Joe, this one is dumb as a rock.

Do you really think Trump wants to go toe to toe with Joe over charities? You may recall that the Trump “charity” was ordered dissolved by the court for fraudulent activity. His children, who were officers of the charity, have been ordered to stay out of charitable ventures for a period of time. About the only thing of significance the Trump “charity” did with its funds was buy a portrait of His Holiness and try to pay off the Florida AG so she would stop investigating the “charity.”

Reminds you of the “health” issue Trump tried to raise about Biden. That is, until Trump couldn’t walk down that slick, icy, steep-as-Mount Everest ramp and needed a second hand to drink a glass of water.

And we don’t hear much more about “Basement Joe” after Trump became Bunker Boy.
You have some misguided belief that the MSM would carry a story like this.

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:40 pm
by njbill
It’s a non-story. No corruption. Maybe a charity that didn’t work out, but that’s all.

Where’s the beef?

What’s next? Stories about the time Joe hooked his drive off the 5th tee into the woods? Oh, the horror.

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:58 pm
by Peter Brown
njbill wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:40 pm It’s a non-story. No corruption. Maybe a charity that didn’t work out, but that’s all.

Where’s the beef?

What’s next? Stories about the time Joe hooked his drive off the 5th tee into the woods? Oh, the horror.


Biden Derangement Syndrome will never come close to TDS. The left is a lunacy mob intent on destroying America. It’s causing home and commercial real estate values to plummet where it’s allowed to grow. Pesticides will halt it.

Re: 2020 Elections - Trump Fatigue Pandemic

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:49 am
by ggait
“ The left is a lunacy mob intent on destroying America. It’s causing home and commercial real estate values to plummet where it’s allowed to grow.“

Petey Troll Gator Boy Brown Nose don’t know shirt about fork.

Go check out house prices in San Francisco and Seattle.

What a forking dumb ass POS. Just go away.