Re: Orange Duce
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:47 am
Boo hoo...learn to get by on half a trillion annually.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:50 pm.. -- the hollowed out military needs new ships & planes & spare parts to overhaul old ones, not the Andrea Mitchell Child Care Center.a fan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:21 pmThere it is. Nicely done. And at the same exact time? Well, the military is hollowed out, and desperately needs more money.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:04 pmYeah. I'm with Andrea Mitchell. I'm highly upset that the new child care center at Joint Base Andrews will be delayed for a year. They'll have to make do with the existing one. It made me laugh. Whenever we had a CODEL visit our base in Spain, they weren't interested in seeing the new sprinkler system we installed in the weapons magazines or the metal building kit the SeaBees brought over on deployment & erected as a hangar for our 2 brand new C-12 King Airs. They could care less about the money we saved by doing it ourself. They had to get their pictures taken in front of the new MILCON funded child care center.
Nowhere is more Congressional pork buried than in the MILCON budget. I bet most of these cuts are in blue districts in which the Reps & Senators are a PITA to Trump. Chuck Schumer crying about poor underfunded West Point. They can use tents. ..
No matter what, they don't have enough money, and simultaneously have money to burn....and it all depends on what letter is by the name of the President. Neat!
Nope. You didn't insist that Congress and the Pentagon simply move Billions is pointless, wasteful spending over to take care of actual business.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:47 amRight. I complained about Obama not funding child care centers, while out airplanes broke up in flight.
Your hero o d is the one who keeps bring this topic up. Never has a president so desperately wanted to be right about a hurricane hitting a specific region of their country.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:55 pmSharpieMadness is indeed hilarious. It has taken on a life of it's own.ggait wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:30 am It's times like #sharpiegate that I give thanks that Al Gore invented the internet.
Hilarious stuff out there.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sh ... mWcnup6JUG
The MostlySillyMedia is obsessed with it.
A catastrophic hurricane has become a set up line for the latest TDS obsession.
Another Trump shiny object diversion. Mission accomplished.
Anything to avoid covering the Russiagate investigation implosion.
Trump cannot let it go - he is getting humiliated (at least in his own mind) and he thinks he has to get the last word. Won't shut up until he thinks he does. While OS can think "mission accomplished" it rather is "mission diverted" as Trump's rather limited resources of stamina and attention get used up wasting his own and our taxpayers time watching Fox and tweeting instead of actually presidenting. In some sense that limits the actual damage he can cause (it actually was good for our foreign policy that he did _not_ go to Poland and screw up something else internationally...CU88 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:41 amYour hero o d is the one who keeps bring this topic up. Never has a president so desperately wanted to be right about a hurricane hitting a specific region of their country.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:55 pmSharpieMadness is indeed hilarious. It has taken on a life of it's own.ggait wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:30 am It's times like #sharpiegate that I give thanks that Al Gore invented the internet.
Hilarious stuff out there.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sh ... mWcnup6JUG
The MostlySillyMedia is obsessed with it.
A catastrophic hurricane has become a set up line for the latest TDS obsession.
Another Trump shiny object diversion. Mission accomplished.
Anything to avoid covering the Russiagate investigation implosion.
Just because he committed adultery by paying to have sex with a porn star named Stormy, doesn't make him a meteorologist!
Will you at least admit that o d took his sharpie and drew on the NOAA map?
That's EZ. You don't understand how DoD is funded. DoD doesn't have the authority to reprogram funds from MILCON (military construction) to acquisitions, readiness or operations. That has to be done by emergency Presidential order, as Trump is doing to redirect MILCON funds to construct the border wall.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:35 amNope. You didn't insist that Congress and the Pentagon simply move Billions is pointless, wasteful spending over to take care of actual business.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:47 amRight. I complained about Obama not funding child care centers, while out airplanes broke up in flight.
Instead, you held Obama wholly responsible, and pretended that this sort of waste didn't exist.
Little D's and R's. Par for the course for you.
Now that Trump does it, oh, well, the military didn't need these billions in the first place.
Can't wait to hear your excuse as to why this wall spending is a ok when the military is predictably "short on cash" again in a few short years.
That possibility never occurred to ANY President. Because, you know, the Constitution.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:35 pm I would have cheered Obama redirecting Congressional pork in the MILCON budget to operations & readiness. He wouldn't take the heat for delaying a new replacement child care center or middle school to acquire spare parts to get cannibalized hangar queen aircraft back in the air. I doubt that the possibility ever even occurred to Obama.
Oh, I tried to point this out to you during Obama's years. Republican Congress whining about a hollowed out military, as it's not their job to fix that. You weren't having any of it, and told me that it was the President's job to lead.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:35 pm Regarding waste, I've repeatedly given you examples of how we could get more bang for the buck if DoD was given a single pot of money to manage, without Congressional line item meddling. Remember my example of the CT delegation forcing us to buy refurbished Blackhawk helos for the Afghans, rather than buying additional used refurbished Russian made helos, that they already operate & maintain, from 3rd party NATO allies who inherited them from the Cold War. That's just one example of costly Congressional meddling.
We've been over this ad nauseam. Obama & Congressional (D)'s would not bust the spending caps for just DoD.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:45 pmThat possibility never occurred to ANY President. Because, you know, the Constitution.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:35 pm I would have cheered Obama redirecting Congressional pork in the MILCON budget to operations & readiness. He wouldn't take the heat for delaying a new replacement child care center or middle school to acquire spare parts to get cannibalized hangar queen aircraft back in the air. I doubt that the possibility ever even occurred to Obama.
It has now. I'm sure that will never lead to something you don't like.
Oh, I tried to point this out to you during Obama's years. Republican Congress whining about a hollowed out military, as it's not their job to fix that. You weren't having any of it, and told me that it was the President's job to lead.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:35 pm Regarding waste, I've repeatedly given you examples of how we could get more bang for the buck if DoD was given a single pot of money to manage, without Congressional line item meddling. Remember my example of the CT delegation forcing us to buy refurbished Blackhawk helos for the Afghans, rather than buying additional used refurbished Russian made helos, that they already operate & maintain, from 3rd party NATO allies who inherited them from the Cold War. That's just one example of costly Congressional meddling.
DoD now has funding adequate to maintain readiness & complete the deployments required by our elected political leaders.ggait wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:01 pm Oh please Salty.
You were howling about how the sequester was going to be the end of life as we know it.
Frankly, I thought the sequester was a great idea. Which should have been maintained.
Everybody, including the DOD, needs to live within a budget. I think a budget equal to what China, Russia, Germany, UK, France, India and Saudi Arabia combined spend should be enough to scrape by on.
And then if we could only maintain taxes at a level that approximated what we spend....
Basically, I'm for the GOP platform from when Ike was in office. Which today would be characterized as radical socialism!!
old salt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:41 pmDoD now has funding adequate to maintain readiness & complete the deployments required by our elected political leaders.ggait wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:01 pm Oh please Salty.
You were howling about how the sequester was going to be the end of life as we know it.
Frankly, I thought the sequester was a great idea. Which should have been maintained.
Everybody, including the DOD, needs to live within a budget. I think a budget equal to what China, Russia, Germany, UK, France, India and Saudi Arabia combined spend should be enough to scrape by on.
And then if we could only maintain taxes at a level that approximated what we spend....
Basically, I'm for the GOP platform from when Ike was in office. Which today would be characterized as radical socialism!!
Under the sequester caps, the tasking exceeded the capability the funding could provide. Readiness & safety suffered.
You want it to cost less, expect our military to do less.
Let Russia dominate their near abroad. Let China regulate western Pacific sea lanes. Let S Korea contain & deter N Korea.
Let ISIS & Iran govern the middle east. Don't worry about terrorists until they show up here.
You must be thinking of someone else. My only requirement is that we PAY for what we consume. Borrowing for what we consume doesn't work for me. And I don't care what the unpaid spending is for -- DOD, health care, SS, whatever. A dollar spent is a dollar spent.You want it to cost less, expect our military to do less.
I have no clue what you're talking about here.
+1000.ggait wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:23 pmYou must be thinking of someone else. My only requirement is that we PAY for what we consume. Borrowing for what we consume doesn't work for me. And I don't care what the unpaid spending is for -- DOD, health care, SS, whatever. A dollar spent is a dollar spent.You want it to cost less, expect our military to do less.
High spend/high taxes. I'm OK with that.
Medium spend/medium taxes. Also OK.
Low spend/low taxes. OK with that too.
And no special spending rules that exempt your sacred cow vs. my sacred cow vs. anyone else's sacred cow. Because everyone thinks their sacred cow is special, but everyone else's sacred cow is pork.
We can have whatever military deployments (or health care or infrastructure plan) we're willing to pay for.
Maybe Trump was watching CNN and with Don Lemon and world renowned weather guy Derek Van Dam. Turn up sound: https://www.instagram.com/p/B2FeP75nADw/ Silly CNNCU88 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:41 amYour hero o d is the one who keeps bring this topic up. Never has a president so desperately wanted to be right about a hurricane hitting a specific region of their country.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:55 pmSharpieMadness is indeed hilarious. It has taken on a life of it's own.ggait wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:30 am It's times like #sharpiegate that I give thanks that Al Gore invented the internet.
Hilarious stuff out there.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sh ... mWcnup6JUG
The MostlySillyMedia is obsessed with it.
A catastrophic hurricane has become a set up line for the latest TDS obsession.
Another Trump shiny object diversion. Mission accomplished.
Anything to avoid covering the Russiagate investigation implosion.
Just because he committed adultery by paying to have sex with a porn star named Stormy, doesn't make him a meteorologist!
Will you at least admit that o d took his sharpie and drew on the NOAA map?
ok, youth, what day was that from?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:23 pmMaybe Trump was watching CNN and with Don Lemon and world renowned weather guy Derek Van Dam. Turn up sound: https://www.instagram.com/p/B2FeP75nADw/ Silly CNNCU88 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:41 amYour hero o d is the one who keeps bring this topic up. Never has a president so desperately wanted to be right about a hurricane hitting a specific region of their country.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:55 pmSharpieMadness is indeed hilarious. It has taken on a life of it's own.ggait wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:30 am It's times like #sharpiegate that I give thanks that Al Gore invented the internet.
Hilarious stuff out there.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sh ... mWcnup6JUG
The MostlySillyMedia is obsessed with it.
A catastrophic hurricane has become a set up line for the latest TDS obsession.
Another Trump shiny object diversion. Mission accomplished.
Anything to avoid covering the Russiagate investigation implosion.
Just because he committed adultery by paying to have sex with a porn star named Stormy, doesn't make him a meteorologist!
Will you at least admit that o d took his sharpie and drew on the NOAA map?
youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:23 pmMaybe Trump was watching CNN and with Don Lemon and world renowned weather guy Derek Van Dam. Turn up sound: https://www.instagram.com/p/B2FeP75nADw/ Silly CNNCU88 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:41 amYour hero o d is the one who keeps bring this topic up. Never has a president so desperately wanted to be right about a hurricane hitting a specific region of their country.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:55 pmSharpieMadness is indeed hilarious. It has taken on a life of it's own.ggait wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:30 am It's times like #sharpiegate that I give thanks that Al Gore invented the internet.
Hilarious stuff out there.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sh ... mWcnup6JUG
The MostlySillyMedia is obsessed with it.
A catastrophic hurricane has become a set up line for the latest TDS obsession.
Another Trump shiny object diversion. Mission accomplished.
Anything to avoid covering the Russiagate investigation implosion.
Just because he committed adultery by paying to have sex with a porn star named Stormy, doesn't make him a meteorologist!
Will you at least admit that o d took his sharpie and drew on the NOAA map?
Look at where the storm is located on the map in that video, Youth. This had to be aired 3 days before it even approached Barbados.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:23 pmMaybe Trump was watching CNN and with Don Lemon and world renowned weather guy Derek Van Dam. Turn up sound: https://www.instagram.com/p/B2FeP75nADw/ Silly CNNCU88 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:41 amYour hero o d is the one who keeps bring this topic up. Never has a president so desperately wanted to be right about a hurricane hitting a specific region of their country.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:55 pmSharpieMadness is indeed hilarious. It has taken on a life of it's own.ggait wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:30 am It's times like #sharpiegate that I give thanks that Al Gore invented the internet.
Hilarious stuff out there.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sh ... mWcnup6JUG
The MostlySillyMedia is obsessed with it.
A catastrophic hurricane has become a set up line for the latest TDS obsession.
Another Trump shiny object diversion. Mission accomplished.
Anything to avoid covering the Russiagate investigation implosion.
Just because he committed adultery by paying to have sex with a porn star named Stormy, doesn't make him a meteorologist!
Will you at least admit that o d took his sharpie and drew on the NOAA map?