Orange Duce

[old salt]

.. -- the hollowed out military needs new ships & planes & spare parts to overhaul old ones, not the Andrea Mitchell Child Care Center.

A distinction you did not make during the 8 years of Obama. You blamed Obama. Obviously the Pentagon and Congress is the problem.

Right. I complained about Obama not funding child care centers, while out airplanes broke up in flight.

[foreverlax]

Anything to avoid covering the Russiagate investigation implosion.

Right. I thought you said that was a deadend, and people were sick of hearing about that?

Hey, great news though, you'll be getting more wall?

Got any spin on the military projects getting defunded to build it?

Yeah. I'm with Andrea Mitchell. I'm highly upset that the new child care center at Joint Base Andrews will be delayed for a year. They'll have to make do with the existing one. It made me laugh. Whenever we had a CODEL visit our base in Spain, they weren't interested in seeing the new sprinkler system we installed in the weapons magazines or the metal building kit the SeaBees brought over on deployment & erected as a hangar for our 2 brand new C-12 King Airs. They could care less about the money we saved by doing it ourself. They had to get their pictures taken in front of the new MILCON funded child care center.

Nowhere is more Congressional pork buried than in the MILCON budget. I bet most of these cuts are in blue districts in which the Reps & Senators are a PITA to Trump. Chuck Schumer crying about poor underfunded West Point. They can use tents. ..

There it is. Nicely done. And at the same exact time? Well, the military is hollowed out, and desperately needs more money.

No matter what, they don't have enough money, and simultaneously have money to burn....and it all depends on what letter is by the name of the President. Neat!

.. -- the hollowed out military needs new ships & planes & spare parts to overhaul old ones, not the Andrea Mitchell Child Care Center.

Boo hoo...learn to get by on half a trillion annually.

You sure are funny.

[a fan]

.. -- the hollowed out military needs new ships & planes & spare parts to overhaul old ones, not the Andrea Mitchell Child Care Center.

A distinction you did not make during the 8 years of Obama. You blamed Obama. Obviously the Pentagon and Congress is the problem.

Right. I complained about Obama not funding child care centers, while out airplanes broke up in flight.

Nope. You didn't insist that Congress and the Pentagon simply move Billions is pointless, wasteful spending over to take care of actual business.

Instead, you held Obama wholly responsible, and pretended that this sort of waste didn't exist.

Little D's and R's. Par for the course for you.

Now that Trump does it, oh, well, the military didn't need these billions in the first place.

Can't wait to hear your excuse as to why this wall spending is a ok when the military is predictably "short on cash" again in a few short years.

[CU88]

It's times like #sharpiegate that I give thanks that Al Gore invented the internet.

Hilarious stuff out there.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sh ... mWcnup6JUG

SharpieMadness is indeed hilarious. It has taken on a life of it's own.
The MostlySillyMedia is obsessed with it.
A catastrophic hurricane has become a set up line for the latest TDS obsession.
Another Trump shiny object diversion. Mission accomplished.
Anything to avoid covering the Russiagate investigation implosion.

Your hero o d is the one who keeps bring this topic up. Never has a president so desperately wanted to be right about a hurricane hitting a specific region of their country.

Just because he committed adultery by paying to have sex with a porn star named Stormy, doesn't make him a meteorologist!

Will you at least admit that o d took his sharpie and drew on the NOAA map?

[RedFromMI]

It's times like #sharpiegate that I give thanks that Al Gore invented the internet.

Hilarious stuff out there.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sh ... mWcnup6JUG

SharpieMadness is indeed hilarious. It has taken on a life of it's own.
The MostlySillyMedia is obsessed with it.
A catastrophic hurricane has become a set up line for the latest TDS obsession.
Another Trump shiny object diversion. Mission accomplished.
Anything to avoid covering the Russiagate investigation implosion.

Your hero o d is the one who keeps bring this topic up. Never has a president so desperately wanted to be right about a hurricane hitting a specific region of their country.

Just because he committed adultery by paying to have sex with a porn star named Stormy, doesn't make him a meteorologist!

Will you at least admit that o d took his sharpie and drew on the NOAA map?

Trump cannot let it go - he is getting humiliated (at least in his own mind) and he thinks he has to get the last word. Won't shut up until he thinks he does. While OS can think "mission accomplished" it rather is "mission diverted" as Trump's rather limited resources of stamina and attention get used up wasting his own and our taxpayers time watching Fox and tweeting instead of actually presidenting. In some sense that limits the actual damage he can cause (it actually was good for our foreign policy that he did _not_ go to Poland and screw up something else internationally...

[old salt]

.. -- the hollowed out military needs new ships & planes & spare parts to overhaul old ones, not the Andrea Mitchell Child Care Center.

A distinction you did not make during the 8 years of Obama. You blamed Obama. Obviously the Pentagon and Congress is the problem.

Right. I complained about Obama not funding child care centers, while out airplanes broke up in flight.

Nope. You didn't insist that Congress and the Pentagon simply move Billions is pointless, wasteful spending over to take care of actual business.

Instead, you held Obama wholly responsible, and pretended that this sort of waste didn't exist.

Little D's and R's. Par for the course for you.

Now that Trump does it, oh, well, the military didn't need these billions in the first place.

Can't wait to hear your excuse as to why this wall spending is a ok when the military is predictably "short on cash" again in a few short years.

That's EZ. You don't understand how DoD is funded. DoD doesn't have the authority to reprogram funds from MILCON (military construction) to acquisitions, readiness or operations. That has to be done by emergency Presidential order, as Trump is doing to redirect MILCON funds to construct the border wall.

I would have cheered Obama redirecting Congressional pork in the MILCON budget to operations & readiness. He wouldn't take the heat for delaying a new replacement child care center or middle school to acquire spare parts to get cannibalized hangar queen aircraft back in the air. I doubt that the possibility ever even occurred to Obama.

Regarding waste, I've repeatedly given you examples of how we could get more bang for the buck if DoD was given a single pot of money to manage, without Congressional line item meddling. Remember my example of the CT delegation forcing us to buy refurbished Blackhawk helos for the Afghans, rather than buying additional used refurbished Russian made helos, that they already operate & maintain, from 3rd party NATO allies who inherited them from the Cold War. That's just one example of costly Congressional meddling.

[a fan]

I would have cheered Obama redirecting Congressional pork in the MILCON budget to operations & readiness. He wouldn't take the heat for delaying a new replacement child care center or middle school to acquire spare parts to get cannibalized hangar queen aircraft back in the air. I doubt that the possibility ever even occurred to Obama.

That possibility never occurred to ANY President. Because, you know, the Constitution.

It has now. I'm sure that will never lead to something you don't like.

Regarding waste, I've repeatedly given you examples of how we could get more bang for the buck if DoD was given a single pot of money to manage, without Congressional line item meddling. Remember my example of the CT delegation forcing us to buy refurbished Blackhawk helos for the Afghans, rather than buying additional used refurbished Russian made helos, that they already operate & maintain, from 3rd party NATO allies who inherited them from the Cold War. That's just one example of costly Congressional meddling.

Oh, I tried to point this out to you during Obama's years. Republican Congress whining about a hollowed out military, as it's not their job to fix that. You weren't having any of it, and told me that it was the President's job to lead.

[old salt]

I would have cheered Obama redirecting Congressional pork in the MILCON budget to operations & readiness. He wouldn't take the heat for delaying a new replacement child care center or middle school to acquire spare parts to get cannibalized hangar queen aircraft back in the air. I doubt that the possibility ever even occurred to Obama.

That possibility never occurred to ANY President. Because, you know, the Constitution.

It has now. I'm sure that will never lead to something you don't like.

Regarding waste, I've repeatedly given you examples of how we could get more bang for the buck if DoD was given a single pot of money to manage, without Congressional line item meddling. Remember my example of the CT delegation forcing us to buy refurbished Blackhawk helos for the Afghans, rather than buying additional used refurbished Russian made helos, that they already operate & maintain, from 3rd party NATO allies who inherited them from the Cold War. That's just one example of costly Congressional meddling.

Oh, I tried to point this out to you during Obama's years. Republican Congress whining about a hollowed out military, as it's not their job to fix that. You weren't having any of it, and told me that it was the President's job to lead.

We've been over this ad nauseam. Obama & Congressional (D)'s would not bust the spending caps for just DoD.
They Insisted on guns AND butter. Trump said ok, if that's what it takes to keep 'em flying, sailing & not running out of ammo.

[ggait]

Oh please Salty.

You were howling about how the sequester was going to be the end of life as we know it.

Frankly, I thought the sequester was a great idea. Which should have been maintained.

Everybody, including the DOD, needs to live within a budget. I think a budget equal to what China, Russia, Germany, UK, France, India and Saudi Arabia combined spend should be enough to scrape by on.

And then if we could only maintain taxes at a level that approximated what we spend....

Basically, I'm for the GOP platform from when Ike was in office. Which today would be characterized as radical socialism!!

[old salt]

Oh please Salty.

You were howling about how the sequester was going to be the end of life as we know it.

Frankly, I thought the sequester was a great idea. Which should have been maintained.

Everybody, including the DOD, needs to live within a budget. I think a budget equal to what China, Russia, Germany, UK, France, India and Saudi Arabia combined spend should be enough to scrape by on.

And then if we could only maintain taxes at a level that approximated what we spend....

Basically, I'm for the GOP platform from when Ike was in office. Which today would be characterized as radical socialism!!

DoD now has funding adequate to maintain readiness & complete the deployments required by our elected political leaders.
Under the sequester caps, the tasking exceeded the capability the funding could provide. Readiness & safety suffered.
You want it to cost less, expect our military to do less.
Let Russia dominate their near abroad. Let China regulate western Pacific sea lanes. Let S Korea contain & deter N Korea.
Let ISIS & Iran govern the middle east. Don't worry about terrorists until they show up here.

[CU88]

Oh please Salty.

You were howling about how the sequester was going to be the end of life as we know it.

Frankly, I thought the sequester was a great idea. Which should have been maintained.

Everybody, including the DOD, needs to live within a budget. I think a budget equal to what China, Russia, Germany, UK, France, India and Saudi Arabia combined spend should be enough to scrape by on.

And then if we could only maintain taxes at a level that approximated what we spend....

Basically, I'm for the GOP platform from when Ike was in office. Which today would be characterized as radical socialism!!

DoD now has funding adequate to maintain readiness & complete the deployments required by our elected political leaders.
Under the sequester caps, the tasking exceeded the capability the funding could provide. Readiness & safety suffered.
You want it to cost less, expect our military to do less.
Let Russia dominate their near abroad. Let China regulate western Pacific sea lanes. Let S Korea contain & deter N Korea.
Let ISIS & Iran govern the middle east. Don't worry about terrorists until they show up here.

Wait! Readiness is about to be adjusted again:

Jim Acosta
@Acosta
McConnell spox says Senate Majority Leader has spoken to SecDef Esper about saving Middle School project at Fort Campbell: "Senator McConnell recently talked to Secretary Esper regarding the issue and is committed to protecting funding for the Ft. Campbell Middle School project"
2:27 PM · Sep 6, 2019·Twitter Web App

Fort Campbell, Kentucky middle school project was on list of programs to cut to divert funding for Trump's border wall. But McConnell is stepping in..

[ggait]

You want it to cost less, expect our military to do less.

You must be thinking of someone else. My only requirement is that we PAY for what we consume. Borrowing for what we consume doesn't work for me. And I don't care what the unpaid spending is for -- DOD, health care, SS, whatever. A dollar spent is a dollar spent.

High spend/high taxes. I'm OK with that.

Medium spend/medium taxes. Also OK.

Low spend/low taxes. OK with that too.

And no special spending rules that exempt your sacred cow vs. my sacred cow vs. anyone else's sacred cow. Because everyone thinks their sacred cow is special, but everyone else's sacred cow is pork.

We can have whatever military deployments (or health care or infrastructure plan) we're willing to pay for.

[a fan]

We've been over this ad nauseam. Obama & Congressional (D)'s would not bust the spending caps for just DoD.
They Insisted on guns AND butter.

I have no clue what you're talking about here.

Under Obama's last six years, Congressional Republicans insisted that for for every dollar spent, there had to be a dollar cut. THAT is what kept you from getting your shiny new ships.

Dems and Obama had NOTHING to do with that stipulation.

And when I pointed out that the "hollowed out" military was the responsibility of your Republican Congress? You famously responded that it was Obama's responsibility to fund the armed forces properly.

So yeah, as usual, no with a R by their name is to blame for anything ever in your eyes.

[a fan]

You want it to cost less, expect our military to do less.

You must be thinking of someone else. My only requirement is that we PAY for what we consume. Borrowing for what we consume doesn't work for me. And I don't care what the unpaid spending is for -- DOD, health care, SS, whatever. A dollar spent is a dollar spent.

High spend/high taxes. I'm OK with that.

Medium spend/medium taxes. Also OK.

Low spend/low taxes. OK with that too.

And no special spending rules that exempt your sacred cow vs. my sacred cow vs. anyone else's sacred cow. Because everyone thinks their sacred cow is special, but everyone else's sacred cow is pork.

We can have whatever military deployments (or health care or infrastructure plan) we're willing to pay for.

+1000.

[youthathletics]

That is not wise when it comes to defense. Money has to be spent on visionary engineering for our DoD.

[youthathletics]

It's times like #sharpiegate that I give thanks that Al Gore invented the internet.

Hilarious stuff out there.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sh ... mWcnup6JUG

SharpieMadness is indeed hilarious. It has taken on a life of it's own.
The MostlySillyMedia is obsessed with it.
A catastrophic hurricane has become a set up line for the latest TDS obsession.
Another Trump shiny object diversion. Mission accomplished.
Anything to avoid covering the Russiagate investigation implosion.

Your hero o d is the one who keeps bring this topic up. Never has a president so desperately wanted to be right about a hurricane hitting a specific region of their country.

Just because he committed adultery by paying to have sex with a porn star named Stormy, doesn't make him a meteorologist!

Will you at least admit that o d took his sharpie and drew on the NOAA map?

Maybe Trump was watching CNN and with Don Lemon and world renowned weather guy Derek Van Dam. Turn up sound: https://www.instagram.com/p/B2FeP75nADw/ Silly CNN

[MDlaxfan76]

It's times like #sharpiegate that I give thanks that Al Gore invented the internet.

Hilarious stuff out there.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sh ... mWcnup6JUG

SharpieMadness is indeed hilarious. It has taken on a life of it's own.
The MostlySillyMedia is obsessed with it.
A catastrophic hurricane has become a set up line for the latest TDS obsession.
Another Trump shiny object diversion. Mission accomplished.
Anything to avoid covering the Russiagate investigation implosion.

Your hero o d is the one who keeps bring this topic up. Never has a president so desperately wanted to be right about a hurricane hitting a specific region of their country.

Just because he committed adultery by paying to have sex with a porn star named Stormy, doesn't make him a meteorologist!

Will you at least admit that o d took his sharpie and drew on the NOAA map?

Maybe Trump was watching CNN and with Don Lemon and world renowned weather guy Derek Van Dam. Turn up sound: https://www.instagram.com/p/B2FeP75nADw/ Silly CNN

ok, youth, what day was that from?
The first day the hurricane was upgraded to actual named status?
Indeed, that day Alabama was on the list.

why?

BECAUSE THEY DIDN"T HAVE MUCH DATA YET...but as the days moved along, the storm got closer, the data pattern developed, and EVERYONE at NOAA and anyone listening to them KNEW Alabama wasn't in the path.

Trump made his error after claiming he was not going to Poland so that he could stay in America and address the storm challenges, including (supposedly) hourly briefings on the storm path and measures being taken...but then went and played golf.

It appears that he either did not bother to be briefed or he didn't listen to the briefings but by the time that he made his mistake it had been DAYS since Alabama had been under storm threat.

Of course it would have been SO EASY to say he'd simply misspoken (miss tweeted) and had included Alabama inadvertently... and thankfully they were no longer at risk. But other states at the coastline now were at risk.

But NO, he couldn't move on from this. What a jerk.

[CU88]

It's times like #sharpiegate that I give thanks that Al Gore invented the internet.

Hilarious stuff out there.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sh ... mWcnup6JUG

SharpieMadness is indeed hilarious. It has taken on a life of it's own.
The MostlySillyMedia is obsessed with it.
A catastrophic hurricane has become a set up line for the latest TDS obsession.
Another Trump shiny object diversion. Mission accomplished.
Anything to avoid covering the Russiagate investigation implosion.

Your hero o d is the one who keeps bring this topic up. Never has a president so desperately wanted to be right about a hurricane hitting a specific region of their country.

Just because he committed adultery by paying to have sex with a porn star named Stormy, doesn't make him a meteorologist!

Will you at least admit that o d took his sharpie and drew on the NOAA map?

Maybe Trump was watching CNN and with Don Lemon and world renowned weather guy Derek Van Dam. Turn up sound: https://www.instagram.com/p/B2FeP75nADw/ Silly CNN

[seacoaster]

The rot and corruption leaches into everything. MTPA:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/ ... at-1484337

Make Turnberry Profitable Again.

[3rdPersonPlural]

It's times like #sharpiegate that I give thanks that Al Gore invented the internet.

Hilarious stuff out there.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-sh ... mWcnup6JUG

SharpieMadness is indeed hilarious. It has taken on a life of it's own.
The MostlySillyMedia is obsessed with it.
A catastrophic hurricane has become a set up line for the latest TDS obsession.
Another Trump shiny object diversion. Mission accomplished.
Anything to avoid covering the Russiagate investigation implosion.

Your hero o d is the one who keeps bring this topic up. Never has a president so desperately wanted to be right about a hurricane hitting a specific region of their country.

Just because he committed adultery by paying to have sex with a porn star named Stormy, doesn't make him a meteorologist!

Will you at least admit that o d took his sharpie and drew on the NOAA map?

Maybe Trump was watching CNN and with Don Lemon and world renowned weather guy Derek Van Dam. Turn up sound: https://www.instagram.com/p/B2FeP75nADw/ Silly CNN

Look at where the storm is located on the map in that video, Youth. This had to be aired 3 days before it even approached Barbados.

Trump got briefed on Thursday, when there was still a (very) outside chance that Dorian would go over FL and die out in the Gulf (thus AL would get some gusty rain showers).

Then he went to golf and promised to keep track of the storm as justification for not going to Poland where his welcome was not gonna be warm after he tweeted congratulations to the Polish people for having gotten invaded by Nazis (some of them, probably, very fine people) 80 years ago. Oops.

Apparently he either ignored or never attended briefings, so when the storm stalled out over Barbados and the track got confirmed as 'up the coast just offshore' he wasn't engaged.

His Sunday tweet betrayed a 4 day old data threshold. The guy is hard to keep on point, I guess......