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IvyBrown wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 7:47 am Does anyone have a link to what the allegations were against jon thompson? Or any specificity?

IvyBrown wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 7:47 am Does anyone have a link to what the allegations were against jon thompson? Or any specificity?

Counselor wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 10:44 am If the Pentagon’s (Air Force) background check on Jon Thompson up clean as well as UNC’s it should be a non-issue for Brown ……..shades of the Duke false accusations which made many involved very wealthy …….

IvyBrown wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 7:47 am Does anyone have a link to what the allegations were against jon thompson? Or any specificity?

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 11:30 am

Counselor wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 10:44 am If the Pentagon’s (Air Force) background check on Jon Thompson up clean as well as UNC’s it should be a non-issue for Brown ……..shades of the Duke false accusations which made many involved very wealthy …….

I definitely don't agree re others 'background checks' as that's pretty darn irrelevant to whether he's the guy you want leading the program and I also doubt very much that this was an entirely falsely accused incident. But the reaction way well have been extreme and misdirected. Not that the fundamental issue isn't essential, but how it's handled might well have been entirely different and with better effect.

I do think that it's pretty darn unlikely that Thompson was to blame and everything I've read from those closer to the program suggests an opposite impression of him. As I said, this is a coach who actively recruited black players. There are a whole lot of teams with zero such. Sure as heck wouldn't want such efforts to boomerang negatively, discouraging others!

And, yes, the mess at Amherst afterwards was not what anyone should want, which suggests an over reaching Admin. ala Duke.

I'm confident that there are people within the Brown-world who know him well, so your own 'background check' is likely well-informed.

ChopMan23 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 5:04 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 11:30 am

Counselor wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 10:44 am If the Pentagon’s (Air Force) background check on Jon Thompson up clean as well as UNC’s it should be a non-issue for Brown ……..shades of the Duke false accusations which made many involved very wealthy …….

I definitely don't agree re others 'background checks' as that's pretty darn irrelevant to whether he's the guy you want leading the program and I also doubt very much that this was an entirely falsely accused incident. But the reaction way well have been extreme and misdirected. Not that the fundamental issue isn't essential, but how it's handled might well have been entirely different and with better effect.

I do think that it's pretty darn unlikely that Thompson was to blame and everything I've read from those closer to the program suggests an opposite impression of him. As I said, this is a coach who actively recruited black players. There are a whole lot of teams with zero such. Sure as heck wouldn't want such efforts to boomerang negatively, discouraging others!

And, yes, the mess at Amherst afterwards was not what anyone should want, which suggests an over reaching Admin. ala Duke.

I'm confident that there are people within the Brown-world who know him well, so your own 'background check' is likely well-informed.

Know multiple players who were on the team when the incident occurred. There was an incident, at a party, that was blown way out of proportion, and somehow that incident snowballed into a fake story that 3 players showed up outside their teammates dorm and yelled slurs.

Anyway, those players I know think the world of Thompson. Were very disappointed he was booted, and if they had not been at such a prestigious school (and just about graduated), they would have left.

ChopMan23 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 5:04 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 11:30 am

Counselor wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 10:44 am If the Pentagon’s (Air Force) background check on Jon Thompson up clean as well as UNC’s it should be a non-issue for Brown ……..shades of the Duke false accusations which made many involved very wealthy …….

I definitely don't agree re others 'background checks' as that's pretty darn irrelevant to whether he's the guy you want leading the program and I also doubt very much that this was an entirely falsely accused incident. But the reaction way well have been extreme and misdirected. Not that the fundamental issue isn't essential, but how it's handled might well have been entirely different and with better effect.

I do think that it's pretty darn unlikely that Thompson was to blame and everything I've read from those closer to the program suggests an opposite impression of him. As I said, this is a coach who actively recruited black players. There are a whole lot of teams with zero such. Sure as heck wouldn't want such efforts to boomerang negatively, discouraging others!

And, yes, the mess at Amherst afterwards was not what anyone should want, which suggests an over reaching Admin. ala Duke.

I'm confident that there are people within the Brown-world who know him well, so your own 'background check' is likely well-informed.

Know multiple players who were on the team when the incident occurred. There was an incident, at a party, that was blown way out of proportion, and somehow that incident snowballed into a fake story that 3 players showed up outside their teammates dorm and yelled slurs.

Anyway, those players I know think the world of Thompson. Were very disappointed he was booted, and if they had not been at such a prestigious school (and just about graduated), they would have left.

pcowlax wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 5:13 pm

ChopMan23 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 5:04 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 11:30 am

Counselor wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 10:44 am If the Pentagon’s (Air Force) background check on Jon Thompson up clean as well as UNC’s it should be a non-issue for Brown ……..shades of the Duke false accusations which made many involved very wealthy …….

I definitely don't agree re others 'background checks' as that's pretty darn irrelevant to whether he's the guy you want leading the program and I also doubt very much that this was an entirely falsely accused incident. But the reaction way well have been extreme and misdirected. Not that the fundamental issue isn't essential, but how it's handled might well have been entirely different and with better effect.

I do think that it's pretty darn unlikely that Thompson was to blame and everything I've read from those closer to the program suggests an opposite impression of him. As I said, this is a coach who actively recruited black players. There are a whole lot of teams with zero such. Sure as heck wouldn't want such efforts to boomerang negatively, discouraging others!

And, yes, the mess at Amherst afterwards was not what anyone should want, which suggests an over reaching Admin. ala Duke.

I'm confident that there are people within the Brown-world who know him well, so your own 'background check' is likely well-informed.

Know multiple players who were on the team when the incident occurred. There was an incident, at a party, that was blown way out of proportion, and somehow that incident snowballed into a fake story that 3 players showed up outside their teammates dorm and yelled slurs.

Anyway, those players I know think the world of Thompson. Were very disappointed he was booted, and if they had not been at such a prestigious school (and just about graduated), they would have left.

This is more or less what happened. Thompson was fired not only got something he didn’t do or have control over but over something that essentially didn’t even happen. If it had happened at any other point of time pretty much in history (including now), there would have been a real investigation and it would have quietly gone away when they realized there was no there there. The local paper story several months later pretty much eviscerated Biddy and the school but at that time you couldn’t lean into race too much. Their next hire after him was another disaster from the same decision point. Anyway, agree he will be a HC again and do well. Sounds like the smoke will rise from the chimney soon in Providence.

camskidamski wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 1:49 pm A real 2 man race now with Thompson out. I never fully expected him to get this gig but since he is an alum and has good stops along the road, he got to be one of the finalists. He will be a HC in D1 sooner than later. Focus shifts down to a fellow coach in the NC area...

If it is the case, he will be getting a huge bump in his salary to take him away from that program. People tell me he's making more than you'd think already. I bet he creeps into the 1.5x his current if he wants this job. Now we wait and see.

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 6:00 pm

pcowlax wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 5:13 pm

ChopMan23 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 5:04 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 11:30 am

Counselor wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 10:44 am If the Pentagon’s (Air Force) background check on Jon Thompson up clean as well as UNC’s it should be a non-issue for Brown ……..shades of the Duke false accusations which made many involved very wealthy …….

I definitely don't agree re others 'background checks' as that's pretty darn irrelevant to whether he's the guy you want leading the program and I also doubt very much that this was an entirely falsely accused incident. But the reaction way well have been extreme and misdirected. Not that the fundamental issue isn't essential, but how it's handled might well have been entirely different and with better effect.

I do think that it's pretty darn unlikely that Thompson was to blame and everything I've read from those closer to the program suggests an opposite impression of him. As I said, this is a coach who actively recruited black players. There are a whole lot of teams with zero such. Sure as heck wouldn't want such efforts to boomerang negatively, discouraging others!

And, yes, the mess at Amherst afterwards was not what anyone should want, which suggests an over reaching Admin. ala Duke.

I'm confident that there are people within the Brown-world who know him well, so your own 'background check' is likely well-informed.

Know multiple players who were on the team when the incident occurred. There was an incident, at a party, that was blown way out of proportion, and somehow that incident snowballed into a fake story that 3 players showed up outside their teammates dorm and yelled slurs.

Anyway, those players I know think the world of Thompson. Were very disappointed he was booted, and if they had not been at such a prestigious school (and just about graduated), they would have left.

This is more or less what happened. Thompson was fired not only got something he didn’t do or have control over but over something that essentially didn’t even happen. If it had happened at any other point of time pretty much in history (including now), there would have been a real investigation and it would have quietly gone away when they realized there was no there there. The local paper story several months later pretty much eviscerated Biddy and the school but at that time you couldn’t lean into race too much. Their next hire after him was another disaster from the same decision point. Anyway, agree he will be a HC again and do well. Sounds like the smoke will rise from the chimney soon in Providence.

Ok … enough of these f*cking lies and bullsh*t about the incident not having happened.

Coach Thompson himself acknowledged that it did:

The March 12 email also attached a statement from Thompson. He wrote, “As the head lacrosse coach, I wholeheartedly condemn the racist language used by members of our team. There is no place for that language, which I find revolting.”

https://amherststudent.com/article/raci ... ntability/

A team captain also reportedly confirmed the events.

I don’t know Coach Thompson, but what I hear leads me to believe he is a man of integrity. He would not have acknowledged the incident if it hadn’t happened.

So cut out the lying nonsense.

DocBarrister

pcowlax wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 6:51 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 6:00 pm

pcowlax wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 5:13 pm

ChopMan23 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 5:04 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 11:30 am

Counselor wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 10:44 am If the Pentagon’s (Air Force) background check on Jon Thompson up clean as well as UNC’s it should be a non-issue for Brown ……..shades of the Duke false accusations which made many involved very wealthy …….

I definitely don't agree re others 'background checks' as that's pretty darn irrelevant to whether he's the guy you want leading the program and I also doubt very much that this was an entirely falsely accused incident. But the reaction way well have been extreme and misdirected. Not that the fundamental issue isn't essential, but how it's handled might well have been entirely different and with better effect.

I do think that it's pretty darn unlikely that Thompson was to blame and everything I've read from those closer to the program suggests an opposite impression of him. As I said, this is a coach who actively recruited black players. There are a whole lot of teams with zero such. Sure as heck wouldn't want such efforts to boomerang negatively, discouraging others!

And, yes, the mess at Amherst afterwards was not what anyone should want, which suggests an over reaching Admin. ala Duke.

I'm confident that there are people within the Brown-world who know him well, so your own 'background check' is likely well-informed.

Know multiple players who were on the team when the incident occurred. There was an incident, at a party, that was blown way out of proportion, and somehow that incident snowballed into a fake story that 3 players showed up outside their teammates dorm and yelled slurs.

Anyway, those players I know think the world of Thompson. Were very disappointed he was booted, and if they had not been at such a prestigious school (and just about graduated), they would have left.

This is more or less what happened. Thompson was fired not only got something he didn’t do or have control over but over something that essentially didn’t even happen. If it had happened at any other point of time pretty much in history (including now), there would have been a real investigation and it would have quietly gone away when they realized there was no there there. The local paper story several months later pretty much eviscerated Biddy and the school but at that time you couldn’t lean into race too much. Their next hire after him was another disaster from the same decision point. Anyway, agree he will be a HC again and do well. Sounds like the smoke will rise from the chimney soon in Providence.

Ok … enough of these f*cking lies and bullsh*t about the incident not having happened.

Coach Thompson himself acknowledged that it did:

The March 12 email also attached a statement from Thompson. He wrote, “As the head lacrosse coach, I wholeheartedly condemn the racist language used by members of our team. There is no place for that language, which I find revolting.”

https://amherststudent.com/article/raci ... ntability/

A team captain also reportedly confirmed the events.

I don’t know Coach Thompson, but what I hear leads me to believe he is a man of integrity. He would not have acknowledged the incident if it hadn’t happened.

So cut out the lying nonsense.

DocBarrister

Happy to DM you but with inside knowledge here I can assure you there is no lying nonsense. You don’t seem to have followed the story to the end. Of course Jon condemns racism and, as he was not there, had to react to the story as it was framed when it first came out.

Brownlax wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 10:14 am

IvyBrown wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 7:47 am Does anyone have a link to what the allegations were against jon thompson? Or any specificity?

Ummm - Google

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 7:09 pm

pcowlax wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 6:51 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 6:00 pm

pcowlax wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 5:13 pm

ChopMan23 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 5:04 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 11:30 am

Counselor wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 10:44 am If the Pentagon’s (Air Force) background check on Jon Thompson up clean as well as UNC’s it should be a non-issue for Brown ……..shades of the Duke false accusations which made many involved very wealthy …….

I definitely don't agree re others 'background checks' as that's pretty darn irrelevant to whether he's the guy you want leading the program and I also doubt very much that this was an entirely falsely accused incident. But the reaction way well have been extreme and misdirected. Not that the fundamental issue isn't essential, but how it's handled might well have been entirely different and with better effect.

I do think that it's pretty darn unlikely that Thompson was to blame and everything I've read from those closer to the program suggests an opposite impression of him. As I said, this is a coach who actively recruited black players. There are a whole lot of teams with zero such. Sure as heck wouldn't want such efforts to boomerang negatively, discouraging others!

And, yes, the mess at Amherst afterwards was not what anyone should want, which suggests an over reaching Admin. ala Duke.

I'm confident that there are people within the Brown-world who know him well, so your own 'background check' is likely well-informed.

Know multiple players who were on the team when the incident occurred. There was an incident, at a party, that was blown way out of proportion, and somehow that incident snowballed into a fake story that 3 players showed up outside their teammates dorm and yelled slurs.

Anyway, those players I know think the world of Thompson. Were very disappointed he was booted, and if they had not been at such a prestigious school (and just about graduated), they would have left.

This is more or less what happened. Thompson was fired not only got something he didn’t do or have control over but over something that essentially didn’t even happen. If it had happened at any other point of time pretty much in history (including now), there would have been a real investigation and it would have quietly gone away when they realized there was no there there. The local paper story several months later pretty much eviscerated Biddy and the school but at that time you couldn’t lean into race too much. Their next hire after him was another disaster from the same decision point. Anyway, agree he will be a HC again and do well. Sounds like the smoke will rise from the chimney soon in Providence.

Ok … enough of these f*cking lies and bullsh*t about the incident not having happened.

Coach Thompson himself acknowledged that it did:

The March 12 email also attached a statement from Thompson. He wrote, “As the head lacrosse coach, I wholeheartedly condemn the racist language used by members of our team. There is no place for that language, which I find revolting.”

https://amherststudent.com/article/raci ... ntability/

A team captain also reportedly confirmed the events.

I don’t know Coach Thompson, but what I hear leads me to believe he is a man of integrity. He would not have acknowledged the incident if it hadn’t happened.

So cut out the lying nonsense.

DocBarrister

Happy to DM you but with inside knowledge here I can assure you there is no lying nonsense. You don’t seem to have followed the story to the end. Of course Jon condemns racism and, as he was not there, had to react to the story as it was framed when it first came out.

It happened. And the racism issues continued to plague Amherst. These kinds of problems don’t arise by accident. Amherst has had serious problems with their culture. Hopefully, progress is being made to correct those issues.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MO6K4v ... oqSn9/view

https://amherststudent.com/article/form ... h-college/

https://amherststudent.com/article/coll ... tion-plan/

DocBarrister

Laxguy3 wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 8:54 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 7:09 pm

pcowlax wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 6:51 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 6:00 pm

pcowlax wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 5:13 pm

ChopMan23 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 5:04 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 11:30 am

Counselor wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 10:44 am If the Pentagon’s (Air Force) background check on Jon Thompson up clean as well as UNC’s it should be a non-issue for Brown ……..shades of the Duke false accusations which made many involved very wealthy …….

I definitely don't agree re others 'background checks' as that's pretty darn irrelevant to whether he's the guy you want leading the program and I also doubt very much that this was an entirely falsely accused incident. But the reaction way well have been extreme and misdirected. Not that the fundamental issue isn't essential, but how it's handled might well have been entirely different and with better effect.

I do think that it's pretty darn unlikely that Thompson was to blame and everything I've read from those closer to the program suggests an opposite impression of him. As I said, this is a coach who actively recruited black players. There are a whole lot of teams with zero such. Sure as heck wouldn't want such efforts to boomerang negatively, discouraging others!

And, yes, the mess at Amherst afterwards was not what anyone should want, which suggests an over reaching Admin. ala Duke.

I'm confident that there are people within the Brown-world who know him well, so your own 'background check' is likely well-informed.

Know multiple players who were on the team when the incident occurred. There was an incident, at a party, that was blown way out of proportion, and somehow that incident snowballed into a fake story that 3 players showed up outside their teammates dorm and yelled slurs.

Anyway, those players I know think the world of Thompson. Were very disappointed he was booted, and if they had not been at such a prestigious school (and just about graduated), they would have left.

This is more or less what happened. Thompson was fired not only got something he didn’t do or have control over but over something that essentially didn’t even happen. If it had happened at any other point of time pretty much in history (including now), there would have been a real investigation and it would have quietly gone away when they realized there was no there there. The local paper story several months later pretty much eviscerated Biddy and the school but at that time you couldn’t lean into race too much. Their next hire after him was another disaster from the same decision point. Anyway, agree he will be a HC again and do well. Sounds like the smoke will rise from the chimney soon in Providence.

Ok … enough of these f*cking lies and bullsh*t about the incident not having happened.

Coach Thompson himself acknowledged that it did:

The March 12 email also attached a statement from Thompson. He wrote, “As the head lacrosse coach, I wholeheartedly condemn the racist language used by members of our team. There is no place for that language, which I find revolting.”

https://amherststudent.com/article/raci ... ntability/

A team captain also reportedly confirmed the events.

I don’t know Coach Thompson, but what I hear leads me to believe he is a man of integrity. He would not have acknowledged the incident if it hadn’t happened.

So cut out the lying nonsense.

DocBarrister

Happy to DM you but with inside knowledge here I can assure you there is no lying nonsense. You don’t seem to have followed the story to the end. Of course Jon condemns racism and, as he was not there, had to react to the story as it was framed when it first came out.

It happened. And the racism issues continued to plague Amherst. These kinds of problems don’t arise by accident. Amherst has had serious problems with their culture. Hopefully, progress is being made to correct those issues.

^^^^ this is completely false that amherst still struggles with racism. Team has been moving in the right direction since 2021. Get off your high horse