Come on man Army has be consistently in top 15 , Navy not even close, maybe that beautiful town in Annapolis helps you recruit but also hurts you when they get there.Abr2016 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 11:10 pmNot necessarily. I wouldn’t call making it to within a goal of the final four in 2016 uncompetitive. You can group both Navy and Army together in that statement. They’ve been about the same from that year in 2004 and onward. That’s just being realistic nowadays, nothing to do with a killer instinct.SQZ7233 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:59 pm Navy has been largely uncompetitive since Richie Meade got them to the championship vs Syracuse and lost in OT. Hired and fired HCs since don't seem to make a difference. Navy just doesn't have a killer instinct. Goes deeper than coaching. And not just in lax.
Frustrating part for Navy is they are trending in the wrong direction. Ever since 2016 - it hasn’t been working.
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Yes recently they have been. But hard to argue they’ve been better consistently since 2004 which I was responding about. But the last few years, of course.lorin wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 11:03 amCome on man Army has be consistently in top 15 , Navy not even close, maybe that beautiful town in Annapolis helps you recruit but also hurts you when they get there.Abr2016 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 11:10 pmNot necessarily. I wouldn’t call making it to within a goal of the final four in 2016 uncompetitive. You can group both Navy and Army together in that statement. They’ve been about the same from that year in 2004 and onward. That’s just being realistic nowadays, nothing to do with a killer instinct.SQZ7233 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:59 pm Navy has been largely uncompetitive since Richie Meade got them to the championship vs Syracuse and lost in OT. Hired and fired HCs since don't seem to make a difference. Navy just doesn't have a killer instinct. Goes deeper than coaching. And not just in lax.
Frustrating part for Navy is they are trending in the wrong direction. Ever since 2016 - it hasn’t been working.
And they managed to squander the “best team in Army history” from somehow going from ranked 1 in the country to not making the tourney. Pretty big disappointment.
Navy at least managed to get an at large in 2016.
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I agree, is that you RW?
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Yes they should have
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Well, let's see where they go from here with Amplo. They did win a conference tournament game for the first time since 2010 and get to the semis.
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That’s not some amazing accomplishment. We hosted the semis in 2015 and 2016.gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 5:26 pm Well, let's see where they go from here with Amplo. They did win a conference tournament game for the first time since 2010 and get to the semis.
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They should move on from Amplo.
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And lost in the semis both years as the #1 seed by 4 and 6 goals.Abr2016 wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 8:05 pmThat’s not some amazing accomplishment. We hosted the semis in 2015 and 2016.gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 5:26 pm Well, let's see where they go from here with Amplo. They did win a conference tournament game for the first time since 2010 and get to the semis.
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I know. That wasn’t the point. The point was that by getting a bye you practically won a quarterfinal game by having a better season. Which Navy has yet to do by earning the bye.FactChecker wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:46 amAnd lost in the semis both years as the #1 seed by 4 and 6 goals.Abr2016 wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 8:05 pmThat’s not some amazing accomplishment. We hosted the semis in 2015 and 2016.gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 5:26 pm Well, let's see where they go from here with Amplo. They did win a conference tournament game for the first time since 2010 and get to the semis.
And the 16 team made the NCAA tournament as an at large. So didn’t matter.
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I will ask this now. And this will be my first statement I make in the Navy 2025 thread.
Has Amplo, in-terms of figures of speech, "hit his ceiling" in-terms of how high he can take Navy Lacrosse? If he hasn't, he needs to prove that very soon.
Has Amplo, in-terms of figures of speech, "hit his ceiling" in-terms of how high he can take Navy Lacrosse? If he hasn't, he needs to prove that very soon.
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It is not, but if someone knows him, tell him we miss him and want him back Maybe Chet is reading this.....
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I would think Chet would be retiring soon… anyone know?
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Your point was not clear. Getting a bye is not winning a game.Abr2016 wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 1:23 pmI know. That wasn’t the point. The point was that by getting a bye you practically won a quarterfinal game by having a better season. Which Navy has yet to do by earning the bye.FactChecker wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:46 amAnd lost in the semis both years as the #1 seed by 4 and 6 goals.Abr2016 wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 8:05 pmThat’s not some amazing accomplishment. We hosted the semis in 2015 and 2016.gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 5:26 pm Well, let's see where they go from here with Amplo. They did win a conference tournament game for the first time since 2010 and get to the semis.
And the 16 team made the NCAA tournament as an at large. So didn’t matter.
But which is better - winning a game to earn a semifinal berth or losing your first tournament game after earning the right to host the semis and finals (twice)?
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Definitely losing as the host in the semifinals is better than losing in the semifinals after winning the quarterfinal.FactChecker wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 4:48 pmYour point was not clear. Getting a bye is not winning a game.Abr2016 wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 1:23 pmI know. That wasn’t the point. The point was that by getting a bye you practically won a quarterfinal game by having a better season. Which Navy has yet to do by earning the bye.FactChecker wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:46 amAnd lost in the semis both years as the #1 seed by 4 and 6 goals.Abr2016 wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 8:05 pmThat’s not some amazing accomplishment. We hosted the semis in 2015 and 2016.gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 5:26 pm Well, let's see where they go from here with Amplo. They did win a conference tournament game for the first time since 2010 and get to the semis.
And the 16 team made the NCAA tournament as an at large. So didn’t matter.
But which is better - winning a game to earn a semifinal berth or losing your first tournament game after earning the right to host the semis and finals (twice)?
Since Navy was host, it meant their overall season was successful enough to make the tournament as an at large.
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In 2016, it was a really exciting selection weekend for Navy fans. It was hugely disappointing, as the #1 PLT seed at home, to lose to Army.
In that selection weekend, It was fun on LaxPower, watching the numbers shift as so many other bubble teams lost on that final weekend.
Going into that final Sat/Sun, Navy was on the outside looking in. In the final analysis, Navy's season opener W over AF was the difference maker as AF sneaked into the Top 20 RPI that final weekend, making it a Quality Win for Navy. That year, W's over Loyola, Army & AF all counted as QW's. Having JHU & MD on the sched boosted the SoS.
If we're going to keep scheduling ooc opponents like JHU, Penn St, Towson & Villanova this year, we need to get at least 2 Top 20 QW's out of that bunch to compete for an at-large bid.
In that selection weekend, It was fun on LaxPower, watching the numbers shift as so many other bubble teams lost on that final weekend.
Going into that final Sat/Sun, Navy was on the outside looking in. In the final analysis, Navy's season opener W over AF was the difference maker as AF sneaked into the Top 20 RPI that final weekend, making it a Quality Win for Navy. That year, W's over Loyola, Army & AF all counted as QW's. Having JHU & MD on the sched boosted the SoS.
If we're going to keep scheduling ooc opponents like JHU, Penn St, Towson & Villanova this year, we need to get at least 2 Top 20 QW's out of that bunch to compete for an at-large bid.
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Anyone heard anything about who Amplo is looking at for the OC spot?