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Matnum PI wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 3:22 pm There's a 0% chance that they didn't know about each other in HS. And, I assume, the 2nd that committed knew that the other was committing before committing. So, with that said, Why would the #1 or #2 goalie in the nation go to school where the #1 or #2 goalie in the nation is also going?

HooDat wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:58 am RR is correct - we have no idea what the dynamics are, what conversations the coaches have had with Rode and Burkinshaw, or even the team for that matter.

Goalies have it weird. By the time you get to a program like UVA you are in one of two places: i) you have lived the life of biding your time while playing behind a great keeper who was ahead of you, or ii) you have always started and don;'t know how not to be the starter. If you have been (ii) above, I am thinking it is a big transition.

I don't know enough about either young man's high school careers to know if this is a new experience for them, but it is a growing one. Because guess what - in the real world you aren't always going to be "the man". In fact you are going to come out of college "the peon". How you deal with sitting when you are better than someone else, or getting usurped by someone younger than you, is going to reveal a lot about your character....

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 3:39 pm

Matnum PI wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 3:22 pm There's a 0% chance that they didn't know about each other in HS. And, I assume, the 2nd that committed knew that the other was committing before committing. So, with that said, Why would the #1 or #2 goalie in the nation go to school where the #1 or #2 goalie in the nation is also going?

I'm wondering if anyone on these boards knows of any historical situation in D1 where two goalies at this high a level (#1 high school AA's, plus in Rode's case a demonstrably great D1 ability) coexisted for 3-4 years splitting duty time?

I don't disagree with MDLax, I do think it's theoretically possible to get two incredibly great goalies to accept their fate, but I also think the margin of error managing that emotional process is almost nonexistent. Just looking at MDLax's son fate at Harvard (?), I am sure the kid burned that he was not rewarded for proving himself multiple times. And if that kid had been AA #1 (was he?), I would think the burn would hurt to the point where you would transfer, or god forbid quit.

If I look around at most major programs the last few decades, where there was an incredibly great starting goalie, I do not know of any situation where you had backup choices at the level of a Burkinshaw or Rode.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 3:39 pm
If I look around at most major programs the last few decades, where there was an incredibly great starting goalie, I do not know of any situation where you had backup choices at the level of a Burkinshaw or Rode.

admin wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 5:29 pm Success at the NCAA level is more common. I think the issue is having two premier goalies, arguably #1 and #2 coming out of HS, going to the same team.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 5:25 pm I think we could find quite a few programs which have had back to back AA level tenders, biding their time in waiting.

Maryland has had such recently.

HooDat wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 6:08 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 5:25 pm I think we could find quite a few programs which have had back to back AA level tenders, biding their time in waiting.

Maryland has had such recently.

yep Danny Morris waited 3 years to be the starting goalie on a national championship Maryland team - sometimes perseverance/patience pays off.....

edit - Actually I think he may have waited 4 - I think he red-=shirted a year and still only started ONE

DALaxDad wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:28 pm Being from the dark ages, I’ll note that in 1971 Cornell was national champs and had two senior AA goaltenders. Bob Rule and Bob(?) Buhman split time their junior years (maybe one was a juco transfer). In any event, Rule started senior year, got hurt after clinching the Ivy championship, and then came back against Brown in the NCAA quarterfinals. Rule left the game losing 2-0 when he reinjured his knee and Buhman lead Cornell to the championship. AAs were named later back then.

blue angels wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:58 pm I know there are some non Virginia fans that have been pushing it, but think the proverbial dead horse has been beat. Can we move on from the goalie topic as it will play out in due time? This has been worse than a HOP thread hijack....... The Hoos have a big upcoming game.what do we feel about the match ups in this one?

stupefied wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 8:44 am Different times. Putting your name into the transfer portal in season recalls Gary Templeton's infamous "If I ain't starting, I ain't departing ". A few cliches immediately came to mind ' No I in Team" , " Dont let the door hit you on the way out". Probably more to it but the awkwardness of situation must be somewhat distracting to team and certainly to Rode. Maybe he'll be the one to leave depending on how this is handled. Perhaps it's smoothed and salvaged but I would have designated Thompson as primary backup immediately and moved on.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 1:41 pm

stupefied wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 8:44 am Different times. Putting your name into the transfer portal in season recalls Gary Templeton's infamous "If I ain't starting, I ain't departing ". A few cliches immediately came to mind ' No I in Team" , " Dont let the door hit you on the way out". Probably more to it but the awkwardness of situation must be somewhat distracting to team and certainly to Rode. Maybe he'll be the one to leave depending on how this is handled. Perhaps it's smoothed and salvaged but I would have designated Thompson as primary backup immediately and moved on.

Absolutely different times. Heck, this was the first time I think the words “transfer portal” have appeared on this forum or its predecessor!

I just don’t think we hoi polloi have a clue what it’s meaning to these guys and this team.

But thanks for the input. It’s great that Loyola and Syracuse fans have such concern.

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