coda wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:38 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:12 am
coda wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:07 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:56 pm
over worked.
Might be the other way. This is teen and preteen. Does not explain College lacrosse rosters exploding. Interesting soccer is emphasized and girls are twice as likely likely to injure an ACL.
ohhh, I wasn't suggesting that injuries are what is causing/justifying swollen rosters. Just that a big driver of the injuries is over work, lots more reps overall, more stress on growing bodies.
I do understand why, for competitive reasons, rosters 40-45 make sense over 30-35, but I don't see the return on 50+, 60+
Most the ACC is carrying 50+ players.
I was suggesting that the reason more youth athletes are tearing their ACLs is due to more sedentary lifestyles and specialization compared to 20-30 years ago. Mobility and muscle development (proper) can greatly reduce injuries. Free play that used to be so common, does not happen as much. That used to stress the body in multiple ways and directions. Lot of kids are sitting around the house and just hitting a single sport, that may not give the variety of different stresses on the body to develop a well rounded body. I do not think kids are more active today compared to the 70s/80s, when many kids grew up coming home from school and went outside until the street lights went on. That is just my theory on the matter
mmm, I don't know the numbers on the youth stuff re sedentary kids, but I certainly saw lots of seemingly well tuned athletes blowing out knees, hips, shoulders, etc, concussions,...not remotely "sedentary" kids. Most playing more than one sport, but way, way more intensively, year round than was our experience growing up.
I do agree that playing one sport, same motions repetitively is likely even worse, but I think the intensity, the number of reps is what's happening to the athletes we're discussing...not the couch potatoes who get up occasionally and rip something.
My son played youth rec in soccer and then rec and school MS football, basketball, baseball and lacrosse; inter club golf and tennis in summer...then he decided to play volleyball and squash in HS, lax in spring, with club in summer, a couple tourneys in fall, winter box...plus regular physical training regimen year round. Serious.
Meniscus tear as sophomore in HS, surgery, hip labrum as senior, surgery freshman year in college, 3 concussions in college (finishing career) and shoulder labrum, no surgery. He didn't seem that unusual, as others went down as well. Some bounced back with rehab, others ended careers (two friends by concussion)
By contrast, playing football, wrestling, lax...and most of the other sports earlier, I had a total of one freak shoulder separation playing touch football...switched to cross country my senior year as result. No injuries in college, lax. Plenty of bruises!
But I wasn't playing these sports year round, had serious time off from heavy training. Summer was some tennis, one, maybe two nights a week of lax games, no practices, some workouts and running but not a lot. A ditch digging job, one year an 8 week canoe trip in northern Canada...great conditioning for wrestling...
Summer ball was maybe 10-20 games all summer? These days, kids can be playing that in two tournament weekends...and some kids are playing two club sports, meaning they can be overlapping all of this for 6-8 tourneys or showcases...so many more reps...
I just see the total # of reps the serious athletes are doing as increasing eventual likelihood of injuries...especially as bodies are growing, changing.
And yes, I think the ACC #'s are way excessive in some cases...but I'm doubting it's because of the full pay tuitions, rather I think it's 'arms race' mentality.