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jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:36 pm ... I really doubt the press referring to them as "squeegee workers" is any kind of spin. Baltimore has had these guys offering a window wash service since forever -- as long as I have been driving -- a long time.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:46 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:36 pm ... I really doubt the press referring to them as "squeegee workers" is any kind of spin. Baltimore has had these guys offering a window wash service since forever -- as long as I have been driving -- a long time.

My buddy calls them squeegee boys. I am sending him that article because I have warned him that that may be him getting killed one of these days.

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:33 pm Longer ago than I can believe, I crossed the Brooklyn Bridge in late afternoon in the summer when traffic on the Manhattan side came to a halt. Shortly, a squeegee guy approached and smeared my windshield with a barely damp, filthy rag. After exchanging pleasantries, he moved on. Moments later a budding entrepreneur approached with a display board full of kitchen knives.

What a city!! Have a problem, and a solution soon appears…

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:56 pm Pure supposition. Just as easily the guy in the car, in a bad mood didn't like something and decided to escalate. I have no idea what happened, what started it, and neither do you.

So what's your solution, make it legal to shoot all squeegee guys on sight? Typical republiCON elitist solution.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:54 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:56 pm Pure supposition. Just as easily the guy in the car, in a bad mood didn't like something and decided to escalate. I have no idea what happened, what started it, and neither do you.

So what's your solution, make it legal to shoot all squeegee guys on sight? Typical republiCON elitist solution.

My solution upon hearing of someone’s murder by a squeegee guy isn’t to post personal stories about squeegee guys that are disrespectful to the deceased.

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:00 am The squeegee peeps are mostly harmless. It’s been my experience that they generally keep moving if you wave them off.

But they are also known to perform their work unsolicited and then break a wiper, or whack your vehicle with their squeegee if you don’t want their service…or pay them afterwards.

The talking points from the City has historically been:

“They just want to work and earn money.”
“They have no other options.”
“It’s better than selling drugs.”

I guess?

A motorist’s dashcam captured the moments before the shooting. It showed Timothy Reynolds, who had the bat, was walking away from the squeegee workers when they followed after him. Reynolds turned and chased them, with the bat raised. He swung once, missing one worker, and another worker threw what appeared to be a rock at his head, hitting him. The third worker shot at Reynolds five times.

Police charged a 15-year-old, who was 14 at the time of the shooting, as an adult with first-degree murder.

Anytime someone is charged with intentionally killing another person, a claim of self-defense can be raised. But it’s a different conversation in Maryland than a state like Florida, which has a “stand your ground” law.

Maryland is in a minority of states that has preserved a “duty to retreat” standard from English common law. The state’s expectation, which largely comes from a body of court decisions rather than the legislature or criminal code, lays out that a person threatened in public with deadly force is expected to retreat before resorting to killing them.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:55 am

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:00 am The squeegee peeps are mostly harmless. It’s been my experience that they generally keep moving if you wave them off.

But they are also known to perform their work unsolicited and then break a wiper, or whack your vehicle with their squeegee if you don’t want their service…or pay them afterwards.

The talking points from the City has historically been:

“They just want to work and earn money.”
“They have no other options.”
“It’s better than selling drugs.”

I guess?

I'd be interested in what policies/programs have worked in other cities to eliminate this issue, particularly any that aren't just strong-arm tactics that if caught on camera would create an uproar and backlash...what works?

Seems to me that those 3 excuses are real, but that needn't mean they are insurmountable...