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cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:48 pm Also to be clear I understand what your saying. My experience here with our government was that unless we had not paid our account for his time on the phone dealing with the IRS we would have been out alot of money. What pizzed me off the most is we played by all the rules and did everything we were suppose to do. We did nothing wrong but were treated like criminals at every stage of the process. This is not uncommon for anyone that has an issue with the IRS.

a fan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:54 pm When you complain about big government....when in reality, you have a roof over your head because you're part of the "big government problem" that you perceive?

Yes. Yes, I'm going to make fun of you a little.

Same goes for "anti-socialists" who attended a State University.

a fan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:54 pm When you complain about big government....when in reality, you have a roof over your head because you're part of the "big government problem" that you perceive?

Yes. Yes, I'm going to make fun of you a little.

Same goes for "anti-socialists" who attended a State University.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:20 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:54 pm When you complain about big government....when in reality, you have a roof over your head because you're part of the "big government problem" that you perceive?

Yes. Yes, I'm going to make fun of you a little.

Same goes for "anti-socialists" who attended a State University.

Define big government, as you think we crazy r's mean it?

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:09 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:27 pm

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:32 pm
I get your love for services, but what's your complaint against capitalists?

If it weren't for the contractors working for the Gov't, not much would get done. The govt isn't local, nimble or diverse enough to meet all the needs of the people.

i never get this. Where do you work or live where you haven’t encountered inefficient private companies? Bad service? Lousy construction? Errant billing?

Meanwhile, I deal with the federal government on a monthly business. Courteous. Professional. Timely. They can get weird at times because the laws they enforce, yet did not write, are poorly worded.

What State do you call home?

The last interaction my wife and I had with the US Government came at the hands of a little organization called the IRS. The lovely folks at the IRS screwed up when my wife rolled over her 401 K plan into another fund. The folks at the IRS were convinced it was a disbursement of funds and we owed them 5000 plus dollars plus interest and penalties.. Getting this issued resolved was beyond a nightmare. The solution was very strait forward, our accountant had all the right forms everything on our end was 100% in order. The guy who worked for our accountant spent hours on the phone getting this fixed. In the end my wife and I were still out over 300 dollars the government shorted us not to include what we had to pay our accountant. There is nothing easy or simple or straightforward when you deal with the IRS. The last time I checked the IRS is bigly a part of the US government. They most certainly are not taxpayer friendly, not even when they are the folks who screwed up to begin with.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:41 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:30 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:09 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:27 pm

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:32 pm
I get your love for services, but what's your complaint against capitalists?

If it weren't for the contractors working for the Gov't, not much would get done. The govt isn't local, nimble or diverse enough to meet all the needs of the people.

i never get this. Where do you work or live where you haven’t encountered inefficient private companies? Bad service? Lousy construction? Errant billing?

Meanwhile, I deal with the federal government on a monthly business. Courteous. Professional. Timely. They can get weird at times because the laws they enforce, yet did not write, are poorly worded.

What State do you call home?

The last interaction my wife and I had with the US Government came at the hands of a little organization called the IRS. The lovely folks at the IRS screwed up when my wife rolled over her 401 K plan into another fund. The folks at the IRS were convinced it was a disbursement of funds and we owed them 5000 plus dollars plus interest and penalties.. Getting this issued resolved was beyond a nightmare. The solution was very strait forward, our accountant had all the right forms everything on our end was 100% in order. The guy who worked for our accountant spent hours on the phone getting this fixed. In the end my wife and I were still out over 300 dollars the government shorted us not to include what we had to pay our accountant. There is nothing easy or simple or straightforward when you deal with the IRS. The last time I checked the IRS is bigly a part of the US government. They most certainly are not taxpayer friendly, not even when they are the folks who screwed up to begin with.

So when your wife rolled her 401k over, did the check come to her or was it rolled over directly to the new plan, (401k/IRA)?

That is a great question. It was a direct rollover from one fund to another. Our financial advisor handled the entire transaction. We never saw a check but we were sent the proper forms from both funds that clearly made it obvious this transaction never involved a disbursement of funds. Neither my wife and I or our accountant ever received an explanation from the IRS. The only notification we received was the IRS sent us a letter saying the situation was resolved but we were still short 300 dollars which was worth the effort to fight them over.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:46 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:23 pm

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:58 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:49 am

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:17 pm Good luck getting paid from some gov agencies.

Same goes for private companies. Or getting work done without overbilling.

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:17 pm And Gov cronyism? I could write a book.

Again....same thing in Private industry. I could write books about the corruption and law breaking, too.

You'll find similar problems in public and private sectors, old bean. You can't escape it.......

And I have to ask: what is it that you're selling to the government?

A myriad of things.
both products and services.

You understand why I asked, yes? Both you and youthathletics have complained about big government.

And yet you both are putting food on the table from checks from said big government?

You understand why I'd chuckle at this situation, right?

I think you just like to chuckle at all of us.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:56 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:09 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:27 pm

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:32 pm
I get your love for services, but what's your complaint against capitalists?

If it weren't for the contractors working for the Gov't, not much would get done. The govt isn't local, nimble or diverse enough to meet all the needs of the people.

i never get this. Where do you work or live where you haven’t encountered inefficient private companies? Bad service? Lousy construction? Errant billing?

Meanwhile, I deal with the federal government on a monthly business. Courteous. Professional. Timely. They can get weird at times because the laws they enforce, yet did not write, are poorly worded.

What State do you call home?

The last interaction my wife and I had with the US Government came at the hands of a little organization called the IRS. The lovely folks at the IRS screwed up when my wife rolled over her 401 K plan into another fund. The folks at the IRS were convinced it was a disbursement of funds and we owed them 5000 plus dollars plus interest and penalties.. Getting this issued resolved was beyond a nightmare. The solution was very strait forward, our accountant had all the right forms everything on our end was 100% in order. The guy who worked for our accountant spent hours on the phone getting this fixed. In the end my wife and I were still out over 300 dollars the government shorted us not to include what we had to pay our accountant. There is nothing easy or simple or straightforward when you deal with the IRS. The last time I checked the IRS is bigly a part of the US government. They most certainly are not taxpayer friendly, not even when they are the folks who screwed up to begin with.

I have legitimately owed them a lot more than $5000 and find them to actually be reasonable and helpful. Your attitude in dealing with them goes a long way I have found.

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kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:14 pm I get what you're saying.
I'd argue if it weren't for contractors like us, the gov and many soldiers would be even more SOL.

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:17 pmWe are a very specific company. We provide service and products they just can't do themselves or in an even remotely efficient way.

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:17 pm I'm also fortunately not dependent on gov for the vast majority of our business. Its just 9-10% of the total.
But I have gotten to see the lots of incompetence and waste of taxpayer money up close and personal!

foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:03 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:41 pm

foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:30 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:09 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:27 pm

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:32 pm
I get your love for services, but what's your complaint against capitalists?

If it weren't for the contractors working for the Gov't, not much would get done. The govt isn't local, nimble or diverse enough to meet all the needs of the people.

i never get this. Where do you work or live where you haven’t encountered inefficient private companies? Bad service? Lousy construction? Errant billing?

Meanwhile, I deal with the federal government on a monthly business. Courteous. Professional. Timely. They can get weird at times because the laws they enforce, yet did not write, are poorly worded.

What State do you call home?

The last interaction my wife and I had with the US Government came at the hands of a little organization called the IRS. The lovely folks at the IRS screwed up when my wife rolled over her 401 K plan into another fund. The folks at the IRS were convinced it was a disbursement of funds and we owed them 5000 plus dollars plus interest and penalties.. Getting this issued resolved was beyond a nightmare. The solution was very strait forward, our accountant had all the right forms everything on our end was 100% in order. The guy who worked for our accountant spent hours on the phone getting this fixed. In the end my wife and I were still out over 300 dollars the government shorted us not to include what we had to pay our accountant. There is nothing easy or simple or straightforward when you deal with the IRS. The last time I checked the IRS is bigly a part of the US government. They most certainly are not taxpayer friendly, not even when they are the folks who screwed up to begin with.

So when your wife rolled her 401k over, did the check come to her or was it rolled over directly to the new plan, (401k/IRA)?

That is a great question. It was a direct rollover from one fund to another. Our financial advisor handled the entire transaction. We never saw a check but we were sent the proper forms from both funds that clearly made it obvious this transaction never involved a disbursement of funds. Neither my wife and I or our accountant ever received an explanation from the IRS. The only notification we received was the IRS sent us a letter saying the situation was resolved but we were still short 300 dollars which was worth the effort to fight them over.

Good. You were advised properly.

Most don't know or aren't advised that youalmost always want a distribution from a plan to be made out to the new plan...20% withholding, plus applicable penalties otherwise.

Agreed. I can easily do my own taxes, but for the sake of representation before the IRS, I want a pro with me at the table.

Your situation is the worst...paying to prove they are wrong.

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:52 pm Meh. What are you complaining about? Santa gets his mail, and all those envelopes have on them is North Pole.

Brooklyn wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:21 am Conservative tough-on-crime judge suspended for calling black female juror "Aunt Jemima":

Pennsylvania judge is suspended after 'repeatedly calling a black female juror 'Aunt Jemima'
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/penns ... Z?ocid=st2

A Pennsylvania judge accused of making racist comments about a juror was barred from hearing any cases, according to a court order issued Thursday.

Judge Mark Tranquilli was suspended after being accused of referring to a black female juror as 'Aunt Jemima' repeatedly in comments he made in his chambers following the acquittal of a drug suspect on Jan. 24.

Tranquilli was temporarily reassigned to summary appeals on Tuesday following an interview of the judge by court administration staff. He will be forbidden from hearing any case and will be restricted to 'administrative duties only, effective immediately.'

'Judge Tranquilli shall not preside over any cases during this assigment,' a court order states.

The judge allegedly made the comments in his chambers in the presence of the prosecutor, Ted Dutkowski, and the defense attorney, Joe Otte.

He is said to have been upset that a suspect was found not guilty, adding that Dutkowski should have done a better job at vetting jurors.





The good judge likely remembers this:

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:30 am
One of the best classes I took in college was a mass media communications course.....History of Minorities in the Mass Media. Many of those images were purposely offensive and were often a reaction to changing political/social climate. When you think little of people (consciously or unconsciously) it’s easier to treat them as less than equal and often less than human. Another great course was Media and The Government. I was an economics major but that class was by far the best class I took in college and the most relevant.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:08 am Boy Scouts (BSA) files for bankruptcy. Good riddance.

Bart wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:31 am

jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:08 am Boy Scouts (BSA) files for bankruptcy. Good riddance.

That is too bad. I had an overwhelmingly positive experience with Scouts. The abuse is horrid, they should pay and pay handsomely but not all of it is/was bad.