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cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:14 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:34 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:04 pmLevin was a call in, lying sack, no attempt to present the facts -- lots of deflection, what aboutism and anger.

I don't know how he maintains that anger all the time. I remember listening to him on the radio for the first time and half the show was yelling in anger. I guess it's a character, otherwise he'd have had a heart attack decades ago.

FTR those of you unfamiliar with angry radio hosts probably never listened to a reformed FLP liberal named Michael Savage.
That is an odd but understandable observation. I've listen to Mr Levin on radio often. I hardly ever remember him going off the rails. I do know his legal prowess puts all of the dimestore amateur lawyers on this forum to shame. Y'all don't like that one little bit...

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:11 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:10 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:36 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:34 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:04 pmLevin was a call in, lying sack, no attempt to present the facts -- lots of deflection, what aboutism and anger.

I don't know how he maintains that anger all the time. I remember listening to him on the radio for the first time and half the show was yelling in anger. I guess it's a character, otherwise he'd have had a heart attack decades ago.

Ritalin

Type A personalities are known for this.

I learned that folks who have a combination of adhd and anxiety often seek out the harder illegal version, aka cocaine. Has to do with a high overlap in low dopamine levels. I worry like hell that my son has very light/mold sensory deprivation so seeks out more physicality and related but that it’s really lower dopamine levels given my own experiences in life.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... hd#effects

Excerpt

How does cocaine affect people with ADHD?

Person staring at paintings in a galleryShare on Pinterest
Grant Faint/Getty Images
As cocaine is a stimulant drug, it can cause feelings of increased energy and euphoria in people without ADHD.

However, in people with ADHD, cocaine may have a calming effect, as it increases dopaminergic transmission, which is dysfunctional in ADHD. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter involved in pleasure, motivation, and learning. Cocaine may, therefore, help people with ADHD manage symptomsTrusted Source of impulsivity, restlessness, and inattentiveness.

The drug affects certain brain structures, including the:

accumbens and ventral pallidum, which form the reward system
amygdala and hippocampus, which are responsible for working memory
orbitofrontal and subcallosal cortices, which play a role in volition
prefrontal cortex and cingulate gyrus, which are important for executive control
It inhibits the reuptake of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin, meaning that more of these “pleasure chemicals” remain circulating in the blood.

The effects in people without ADHD include increased arousal, euphoria, and increased vigilance and alertness. However, individuals with ADHD may experience relief from the executive and behavioral dysfunctions that occur with the condition.

Are people with ADHD more susceptible to cocaine use disorder?

People with ADHD might be more susceptible to cocaine use disorder and other substance use disorders. For example, a 2014 reviewTrusted Source notes research in which 23% of young adults with substance use disorders also had ADHD.

In a 2021 Canadian studyTrusted Source involving 6,872 people aged 20–39 years, the participants with ADHD were significantly more likely to have a substance use disorder than those without the condition.

When considering cocaine specifically, some studies indicate that the prevalence of cocaine use among adults with ADHD is about 26%, with 1 in 10 individuals developing cocaine use disorder. Comparatively, in the general population, 1.9% of people aged 12 years and older will have used the drug in the last year.

Why may some people with ADHD use cocaine as a treatment?

There are many reasons why people with ADHD may “self-medicate” with cocaine. However, the primary reason is that the effects of cocaine on the brain may help alleviate some of the symptoms associated with ADHD.

Cocaine acts in a similar way to prescription medications on the systems that do not function as they should in people with ADHD. Using cocaine causes a surge in dopamine, making up for the lack of the chemical.

Cocaine use in ADHD may not produce the classic “rush” and high energy state that people without the condition often experience. Instead, those with ADHD may find that cocaine provides more focus and calm. This can be appealing to people who can feel as though they cannot keep up with the world around them.

However, a person should never consider cocaine use as a treatment for ADHD because of the associated risks of this illegal drug.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:59 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:11 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:10 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:36 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:34 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:04 pmLevin was a call in, lying sack, no attempt to present the facts -- lots of deflection, what aboutism and anger.

I don't know how he maintains that anger all the time. I remember listening to him on the radio for the first time and half the show was yelling in anger. I guess it's a character, otherwise he'd have had a heart attack decades ago.

Ritalin

Type A personalities are known for this.

I learned that folks who have a combination of adhd and anxiety often seek out the harder illegal version, aka cocaine. Has to do with a high overlap in low dopamine levels. I worry like hell that my son has very light/mold sensory deprivation so seeks out more physicality and related but that it’s really lower dopamine levels given my own experiences in life.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... hd#effects

Excerpt

How does cocaine affect people with ADHD?

Person staring at paintings in a galleryShare on Pinterest
Grant Faint/Getty Images
As cocaine is a stimulant drug, it can cause feelings of increased energy and euphoria in people without ADHD.

However, in people with ADHD, cocaine may have a calming effect, as it increases dopaminergic transmission, which is dysfunctional in ADHD. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter involved in pleasure, motivation, and learning. Cocaine may, therefore, help people with ADHD manage symptomsTrusted Source of impulsivity, restlessness, and inattentiveness.

The drug affects certain brain structures, including the:

accumbens and ventral pallidum, which form the reward system
amygdala and hippocampus, which are responsible for working memory
orbitofrontal and subcallosal cortices, which play a role in volition
prefrontal cortex and cingulate gyrus, which are important for executive control
It inhibits the reuptake of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin, meaning that more of these “pleasure chemicals” remain circulating in the blood.

The effects in people without ADHD include increased arousal, euphoria, and increased vigilance and alertness. However, individuals with ADHD may experience relief from the executive and behavioral dysfunctions that occur with the condition.

Are people with ADHD more susceptible to cocaine use disorder?

People with ADHD might be more susceptible to cocaine use disorder and other substance use disorders. For example, a 2014 reviewTrusted Source notes research in which 23% of young adults with substance use disorders also had ADHD.

In a 2021 Canadian studyTrusted Source involving 6,872 people aged 20–39 years, the participants with ADHD were significantly more likely to have a substance use disorder than those without the condition.

When considering cocaine specifically, some studies indicate that the prevalence of cocaine use among adults with ADHD is about 26%, with 1 in 10 individuals developing cocaine use disorder. Comparatively, in the general population, 1.9% of people aged 12 years and older will have used the drug in the last year.

Why may some people with ADHD use cocaine as a treatment?

There are many reasons why people with ADHD may “self-medicate” with cocaine. However, the primary reason is that the effects of cocaine on the brain may help alleviate some of the symptoms associated with ADHD.

Cocaine acts in a similar way to prescription medications on the systems that do not function as they should in people with ADHD. Using cocaine causes a surge in dopamine, making up for the lack of the chemical.

Cocaine use in ADHD may not produce the classic “rush” and high energy state that people without the condition often experience. Instead, those with ADHD may find that cocaine provides more focus and calm. This can be appealing to people who can feel as though they cannot keep up with the world around them.

However, a person should never consider cocaine use as a treatment for ADHD because of the associated risks of this illegal drug.

Worked a large project on site years ago and had a leader with ADHD, his staff would occasionally substitute caffeine coffee for his daily decaf, in order to kick him down a notch. You knew it when they had done it....he was very lethargic, and seemed to stay at his desk and leave everyone alone.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:45 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:59 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:11 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:10 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:36 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:34 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:04 pmLevin was a call in, lying sack, no attempt to present the facts -- lots of deflection, what aboutism and anger.

I don't know how he maintains that anger all the time. I remember listening to him on the radio for the first time and half the show was yelling in anger. I guess it's a character, otherwise he'd have had a heart attack decades ago.

Ritalin

Type A personalities are known for this.

I learned that folks who have a combination of adhd and anxiety often seek out the harder illegal version, aka cocaine. Has to do with a high overlap in low dopamine levels. I worry like hell that my son has very light/mold sensory deprivation so seeks out more physicality and related but that it’s really lower dopamine levels given my own experiences in life.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... hd#effects

Excerpt

How does cocaine affect people with ADHD?

Person staring at paintings in a galleryShare on Pinterest
Grant Faint/Getty Images
As cocaine is a stimulant drug, it can cause feelings of increased energy and euphoria in people without ADHD.

However, in people with ADHD, cocaine may have a calming effect, as it increases dopaminergic transmission, which is dysfunctional in ADHD. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter involved in pleasure, motivation, and learning. Cocaine may, therefore, help people with ADHD manage symptomsTrusted Source of impulsivity, restlessness, and inattentiveness.

The drug affects certain brain structures, including the:

accumbens and ventral pallidum, which form the reward system
amygdala and hippocampus, which are responsible for working memory
orbitofrontal and subcallosal cortices, which play a role in volition
prefrontal cortex and cingulate gyrus, which are important for executive control
It inhibits the reuptake of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin, meaning that more of these “pleasure chemicals” remain circulating in the blood.

The effects in people without ADHD include increased arousal, euphoria, and increased vigilance and alertness. However, individuals with ADHD may experience relief from the executive and behavioral dysfunctions that occur with the condition.

Are people with ADHD more susceptible to cocaine use disorder?

People with ADHD might be more susceptible to cocaine use disorder and other substance use disorders. For example, a 2014 reviewTrusted Source notes research in which 23% of young adults with substance use disorders also had ADHD.

In a 2021 Canadian studyTrusted Source involving 6,872 people aged 20–39 years, the participants with ADHD were significantly more likely to have a substance use disorder than those without the condition.

When considering cocaine specifically, some studies indicate that the prevalence of cocaine use among adults with ADHD is about 26%, with 1 in 10 individuals developing cocaine use disorder. Comparatively, in the general population, 1.9% of people aged 12 years and older will have used the drug in the last year.

Why may some people with ADHD use cocaine as a treatment?

There are many reasons why people with ADHD may “self-medicate” with cocaine. However, the primary reason is that the effects of cocaine on the brain may help alleviate some of the symptoms associated with ADHD.

Cocaine acts in a similar way to prescription medications on the systems that do not function as they should in people with ADHD. Using cocaine causes a surge in dopamine, making up for the lack of the chemical.

Cocaine use in ADHD may not produce the classic “rush” and high energy state that people without the condition often experience. Instead, those with ADHD may find that cocaine provides more focus and calm. This can be appealing to people who can feel as though they cannot keep up with the world around them.

However, a person should never consider cocaine use as a treatment for ADHD because of the associated risks of this illegal drug.

Worked a large project on site years ago and had a leader with ADHD, his staff would occasionally substitute caffeine coffee for his daily decaf, in order to kick him down a notch. You knew it when they had done it....he was very lethargic, and seemed to stay at his desk and leave everyone alone.

I’m two pots and 3-5 diet cokes a day. And at times whatever else. Offered a script for adderall or similar a few years ago but had the good sense for once to pass.

Honestly, I’m not self medicating these days/at the moment, but think and have some medical professionals I’m personally close to confirm that someone like myself would have a high probability of success moderating my biochemical trash with weed.

Problem is a lot of folks have more than one issue and it’s the “cross pollination” that’s an issue. Complicates the dynamic model running inside a person.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:34 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:45 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:59 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:11 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:10 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:36 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:34 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:04 pmLevin was a call in, lying sack, no attempt to present the facts -- lots of deflection, what aboutism and anger.

I don't know how he maintains that anger all the time. I remember listening to him on the radio for the first time and half the show was yelling in anger. I guess it's a character, otherwise he'd have had a heart attack decades ago.

Ritalin

Type A personalities are known for this.

I learned that folks who have a combination of adhd and anxiety often seek out the harder illegal version, aka cocaine. Has to do with a high overlap in low dopamine levels. I worry like hell that my son has very light/mold sensory deprivation so seeks out more physicality and related but that it’s really lower dopamine levels given my own experiences in life.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... hd#effects

Excerpt

How does cocaine affect people with ADHD?

Person staring at paintings in a galleryShare on Pinterest
Grant Faint/Getty Images
As cocaine is a stimulant drug, it can cause feelings of increased energy and euphoria in people without ADHD.

However, in people with ADHD, cocaine may have a calming effect, as it increases dopaminergic transmission, which is dysfunctional in ADHD. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter involved in pleasure, motivation, and learning. Cocaine may, therefore, help people with ADHD manage symptomsTrusted Source of impulsivity, restlessness, and inattentiveness.

The drug affects certain brain structures, including the:

accumbens and ventral pallidum, which form the reward system
amygdala and hippocampus, which are responsible for working memory
orbitofrontal and subcallosal cortices, which play a role in volition
prefrontal cortex and cingulate gyrus, which are important for executive control
It inhibits the reuptake of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin, meaning that more of these “pleasure chemicals” remain circulating in the blood.

The effects in people without ADHD include increased arousal, euphoria, and increased vigilance and alertness. However, individuals with ADHD may experience relief from the executive and behavioral dysfunctions that occur with the condition.

Are people with ADHD more susceptible to cocaine use disorder?

People with ADHD might be more susceptible to cocaine use disorder and other substance use disorders. For example, a 2014 reviewTrusted Source notes research in which 23% of young adults with substance use disorders also had ADHD.

In a 2021 Canadian studyTrusted Source involving 6,872 people aged 20–39 years, the participants with ADHD were significantly more likely to have a substance use disorder than those without the condition.

When considering cocaine specifically, some studies indicate that the prevalence of cocaine use among adults with ADHD is about 26%, with 1 in 10 individuals developing cocaine use disorder. Comparatively, in the general population, 1.9% of people aged 12 years and older will have used the drug in the last year.

Why may some people with ADHD use cocaine as a treatment?

There are many reasons why people with ADHD may “self-medicate” with cocaine. However, the primary reason is that the effects of cocaine on the brain may help alleviate some of the symptoms associated with ADHD.

Cocaine acts in a similar way to prescription medications on the systems that do not function as they should in people with ADHD. Using cocaine causes a surge in dopamine, making up for the lack of the chemical.

Cocaine use in ADHD may not produce the classic “rush” and high energy state that people without the condition often experience. Instead, those with ADHD may find that cocaine provides more focus and calm. This can be appealing to people who can feel as though they cannot keep up with the world around them.

However, a person should never consider cocaine use as a treatment for ADHD because of the associated risks of this illegal drug.

Worked a large project on site years ago and had a leader with ADHD, his staff would occasionally substitute caffeine coffee for his daily decaf, in order to kick him down a notch. You knew it when they had done it....he was very lethargic, and seemed to stay at his desk and leave everyone alone.

I’m two pots and 3-5 diet cokes a day. And at times whatever else. Offered a script for adderall or similar a few years ago but had the good sense for once to pass.

Honestly, I’m not self medicating these days/at the moment, but think and have some medical professionals I’m personally close to confirm that someone like myself would have a high probability of success moderating my biochemical trash with weed.

Problem is a lot of folks have more than one issue and it’s the “cross pollination” that’s an issue. Complicates the dynamic model running inside a person.

You can't rule out TBI either, often similar side effects and there are centers out there that can help determine such. Quite often it is football players, military operators from years of training with CQB, explosions, breeching etc. Worth a listen....for another perspective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSqu9mVF5W8

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:59 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:34 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:45 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:59 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:11 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:10 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:36 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:34 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:04 pmLevin was a call in, lying sack, no attempt to present the facts -- lots of deflection, what aboutism and anger.

I don't know how he maintains that anger all the time. I remember listening to him on the radio for the first time and half the show was yelling in anger. I guess it's a character, otherwise he'd have had a heart attack decades ago.

Ritalin

Type A personalities are known for this.

I learned that folks who have a combination of adhd and anxiety often seek out the harder illegal version, aka cocaine. Has to do with a high overlap in low dopamine levels. I worry like hell that my son has very light/mold sensory deprivation so seeks out more physicality and related but that it’s really lower dopamine levels given my own experiences in life.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... hd#effects

Excerpt

How does cocaine affect people with ADHD?

Person staring at paintings in a galleryShare on Pinterest
Grant Faint/Getty Images
As cocaine is a stimulant drug, it can cause feelings of increased energy and euphoria in people without ADHD.

However, in people with ADHD, cocaine may have a calming effect, as it increases dopaminergic transmission, which is dysfunctional in ADHD. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter involved in pleasure, motivation, and learning. Cocaine may, therefore, help people with ADHD manage symptomsTrusted Source of impulsivity, restlessness, and inattentiveness.

The drug affects certain brain structures, including the:

accumbens and ventral pallidum, which form the reward system
amygdala and hippocampus, which are responsible for working memory
orbitofrontal and subcallosal cortices, which play a role in volition
prefrontal cortex and cingulate gyrus, which are important for executive control
It inhibits the reuptake of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin, meaning that more of these “pleasure chemicals” remain circulating in the blood.

The effects in people without ADHD include increased arousal, euphoria, and increased vigilance and alertness. However, individuals with ADHD may experience relief from the executive and behavioral dysfunctions that occur with the condition.

Are people with ADHD more susceptible to cocaine use disorder?

People with ADHD might be more susceptible to cocaine use disorder and other substance use disorders. For example, a 2014 reviewTrusted Source notes research in which 23% of young adults with substance use disorders also had ADHD.

In a 2021 Canadian studyTrusted Source involving 6,872 people aged 20–39 years, the participants with ADHD were significantly more likely to have a substance use disorder than those without the condition.

When considering cocaine specifically, some studies indicate that the prevalence of cocaine use among adults with ADHD is about 26%, with 1 in 10 individuals developing cocaine use disorder. Comparatively, in the general population, 1.9% of people aged 12 years and older will have used the drug in the last year.

Why may some people with ADHD use cocaine as a treatment?

There are many reasons why people with ADHD may “self-medicate” with cocaine. However, the primary reason is that the effects of cocaine on the brain may help alleviate some of the symptoms associated with ADHD.

Cocaine acts in a similar way to prescription medications on the systems that do not function as they should in people with ADHD. Using cocaine causes a surge in dopamine, making up for the lack of the chemical.

Cocaine use in ADHD may not produce the classic “rush” and high energy state that people without the condition often experience. Instead, those with ADHD may find that cocaine provides more focus and calm. This can be appealing to people who can feel as though they cannot keep up with the world around them.

However, a person should never consider cocaine use as a treatment for ADHD because of the associated risks of this illegal drug.

Worked a large project on site years ago and had a leader with ADHD, his staff would occasionally substitute caffeine coffee for his daily decaf, in order to kick him down a notch. You knew it when they had done it....he was very lethargic, and seemed to stay at his desk and leave everyone alone.

I’m two pots and 3-5 diet cokes a day. And at times whatever else. Offered a script for adderall or similar a few years ago but had the good sense for once to pass.

Honestly, I’m not self medicating these days/at the moment, but think and have some medical professionals I’m personally close to confirm that someone like myself would have a high probability of success moderating my biochemical trash with weed.

Problem is a lot of folks have more than one issue and it’s the “cross pollination” that’s an issue. Complicates the dynamic model running inside a person.

You can't rule out TBI either, often similar side effects and there are centers out there that can help determine such. Quite often it is football players, military operators from years of training with CQB, explosions, breeching etc. Worth a listen....for another perspective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSqu9mVF5W8

Wife thinks I have CTE but she’s also often hysterical/. That being said I’ve referenced a friend who was a lacrosse player at Brown in the late 90s/2000s who died a few years back from a fall down stairs and they found his brain was Parkinson’s like. He got heavy into booze and bitter often. And the Hobart trainer gets held up for his service but was a terrible POS back then.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:30 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:59 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:34 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:45 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:59 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:11 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:10 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:36 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:34 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:04 pmLevin was a call in, lying sack, no attempt to present the facts -- lots of deflection, what aboutism and anger.

I don't know how he maintains that anger all the time. I remember listening to him on the radio for the first time and half the show was yelling in anger. I guess it's a character, otherwise he'd have had a heart attack decades ago.

Ritalin

Type A personalities are known for this.

I learned that folks who have a combination of adhd and anxiety often seek out the harder illegal version, aka cocaine. Has to do with a high overlap in low dopamine levels. I worry like hell that my son has very light/mold sensory deprivation so seeks out more physicality and related but that it’s really lower dopamine levels given my own experiences in life.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... hd#effects

Excerpt

How does cocaine affect people with ADHD?

Person staring at paintings in a galleryShare on Pinterest
Grant Faint/Getty Images
As cocaine is a stimulant drug, it can cause feelings of increased energy and euphoria in people without ADHD.

However, in people with ADHD, cocaine may have a calming effect, as it increases dopaminergic transmission, which is dysfunctional in ADHD. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter involved in pleasure, motivation, and learning. Cocaine may, therefore, help people with ADHD manage symptomsTrusted Source of impulsivity, restlessness, and inattentiveness.

The drug affects certain brain structures, including the:

accumbens and ventral pallidum, which form the reward system
amygdala and hippocampus, which are responsible for working memory
orbitofrontal and subcallosal cortices, which play a role in volition
prefrontal cortex and cingulate gyrus, which are important for executive control
It inhibits the reuptake of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin, meaning that more of these “pleasure chemicals” remain circulating in the blood.

The effects in people without ADHD include increased arousal, euphoria, and increased vigilance and alertness. However, individuals with ADHD may experience relief from the executive and behavioral dysfunctions that occur with the condition.

Are people with ADHD more susceptible to cocaine use disorder?

People with ADHD might be more susceptible to cocaine use disorder and other substance use disorders. For example, a 2014 reviewTrusted Source notes research in which 23% of young adults with substance use disorders also had ADHD.

In a 2021 Canadian studyTrusted Source involving 6,872 people aged 20–39 years, the participants with ADHD were significantly more likely to have a substance use disorder than those without the condition.

When considering cocaine specifically, some studies indicate that the prevalence of cocaine use among adults with ADHD is about 26%, with 1 in 10 individuals developing cocaine use disorder. Comparatively, in the general population, 1.9% of people aged 12 years and older will have used the drug in the last year.

Why may some people with ADHD use cocaine as a treatment?

There are many reasons why people with ADHD may “self-medicate” with cocaine. However, the primary reason is that the effects of cocaine on the brain may help alleviate some of the symptoms associated with ADHD.

Cocaine acts in a similar way to prescription medications on the systems that do not function as they should in people with ADHD. Using cocaine causes a surge in dopamine, making up for the lack of the chemical.

Cocaine use in ADHD may not produce the classic “rush” and high energy state that people without the condition often experience. Instead, those with ADHD may find that cocaine provides more focus and calm. This can be appealing to people who can feel as though they cannot keep up with the world around them.

However, a person should never consider cocaine use as a treatment for ADHD because of the associated risks of this illegal drug.

Worked a large project on site years ago and had a leader with ADHD, his staff would occasionally substitute caffeine coffee for his daily decaf, in order to kick him down a notch. You knew it when they had done it....he was very lethargic, and seemed to stay at his desk and leave everyone alone.

I’m two pots and 3-5 diet cokes a day. And at times whatever else. Offered a script for adderall or similar a few years ago but had the good sense for once to pass.

Honestly, I’m not self medicating these days/at the moment, but think and have some medical professionals I’m personally close to confirm that someone like myself would have a high probability of success moderating my biochemical trash with weed.

Problem is a lot of folks have more than one issue and it’s the “cross pollination” that’s an issue. Complicates the dynamic model running inside a person.

You can't rule out TBI either, often similar side effects and there are centers out there that can help determine such. Quite often it is football players, military operators from years of training with CQB, explosions, breeching etc. Worth a listen....for another perspective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSqu9mVF5W8

Wife thinks I have CTE but she’s also often hysterical/. That being said I’ve referenced a friend who was a lacrosse player at Brown in the late 90s/2000s who died a few years back from a fall down stairs and they found his brain was Parkinson’s like. He got heavy into booze and bitter often. And the Hobart trainer gets held up for his service but was a terrible POS back then.

I’ve listened to many of the Shawn Ryan podcasts and so many of the Operators are navigating CTE recovery therapy. Many have applauded success with all the newly supported therapies available, but not a one size fits all. And yet, our VA just wants to pump them full of pills, followed by more pills from the first cycle of pill side effects.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:45 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:59 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:11 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:10 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:36 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:34 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:04 pmLevin was a call in, lying sack, no attempt to present the facts -- lots of deflection, what aboutism and anger.

I don't know how he maintains that anger all the time. I remember listening to him on the radio for the first time and half the show was yelling in anger. I guess it's a character, otherwise he'd have had a heart attack decades ago.

Ritalin

Type A personalities are known for this.

I learned that folks who have a combination of adhd and anxiety often seek out the harder illegal version, aka cocaine. Has to do with a high overlap in low dopamine levels. I worry like hell that my son has very light/mold sensory deprivation so seeks out more physicality and related but that it’s really lower dopamine levels given my own experiences in life.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... hd#effects

Excerpt

How does cocaine affect people with ADHD?

Person staring at paintings in a galleryShare on Pinterest
Grant Faint/Getty Images
As cocaine is a stimulant drug, it can cause feelings of increased energy and euphoria in people without ADHD.

However, in people with ADHD, cocaine may have a calming effect, as it increases dopaminergic transmission, which is dysfunctional in ADHD. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter involved in pleasure, motivation, and learning. Cocaine may, therefore, help people with ADHD manage symptomsTrusted Source of impulsivity, restlessness, and inattentiveness.

The drug affects certain brain structures, including the:

accumbens and ventral pallidum, which form the reward system
amygdala and hippocampus, which are responsible for working memory
orbitofrontal and subcallosal cortices, which play a role in volition
prefrontal cortex and cingulate gyrus, which are important for executive control
It inhibits the reuptake of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin, meaning that more of these “pleasure chemicals” remain circulating in the blood.

The effects in people without ADHD include increased arousal, euphoria, and increased vigilance and alertness. However, individuals with ADHD may experience relief from the executive and behavioral dysfunctions that occur with the condition.

Are people with ADHD more susceptible to cocaine use disorder?

People with ADHD might be more susceptible to cocaine use disorder and other substance use disorders. For example, a 2014 reviewTrusted Source notes research in which 23% of young adults with substance use disorders also had ADHD.

In a 2021 Canadian studyTrusted Source involving 6,872 people aged 20–39 years, the participants with ADHD were significantly more likely to have a substance use disorder than those without the condition.

When considering cocaine specifically, some studies indicate that the prevalence of cocaine use among adults with ADHD is about 26%, with 1 in 10 individuals developing cocaine use disorder. Comparatively, in the general population, 1.9% of people aged 12 years and older will have used the drug in the last year.

Why may some people with ADHD use cocaine as a treatment?

There are many reasons why people with ADHD may “self-medicate” with cocaine. However, the primary reason is that the effects of cocaine on the brain may help alleviate some of the symptoms associated with ADHD.

Cocaine acts in a similar way to prescription medications on the systems that do not function as they should in people with ADHD. Using cocaine causes a surge in dopamine, making up for the lack of the chemical.

Cocaine use in ADHD may not produce the classic “rush” and high energy state that people without the condition often experience. Instead, those with ADHD may find that cocaine provides more focus and calm. This can be appealing to people who can feel as though they cannot keep up with the world around them.

However, a person should never consider cocaine use as a treatment for ADHD because of the associated risks of this illegal drug.

Worked a large project on site years ago and had a leader with ADHD, his staff would occasionally substitute caffeine coffee for his daily decaf, in order to kick him down a notch. You knew it when they had done it....he was very lethargic, and seemed to stay at his desk and leave everyone alone.

I’m two pots and 3-5 diet cokes a day. And at times whatever else. Offered a script for adderall or similar a few years ago but had the good sense for once to pass.

Honestly, I’m not self medicating these days/at the moment, but think and have some medical professionals I’m personally close to confirm that someone like myself would have a high probability of success moderating my biochemical trash with weed.

Problem is a lot of folks have more than one issue and it’s the “cross pollination” that’s an issue. Complicates the dynamic model running inside a person.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:18 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:45 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:59 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:11 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:10 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:36 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:34 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:04 pmLevin was a call in, lying sack, no attempt to present the facts -- lots of deflection, what aboutism and anger.

I don't know how he maintains that anger all the time. I remember listening to him on the radio for the first time and half the show was yelling in anger. I guess it's a character, otherwise he'd have had a heart attack decades ago.

Ritalin

Type A personalities are known for this.

I learned that folks who have a combination of adhd and anxiety often seek out the harder illegal version, aka cocaine. Has to do with a high overlap in low dopamine levels. I worry like hell that my son has very light/mold sensory deprivation so seeks out more physicality and related but that it’s really lower dopamine levels given my own experiences in life.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... hd#effects

Excerpt

How does cocaine affect people with ADHD?

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Grant Faint/Getty Images
As cocaine is a stimulant drug, it can cause feelings of increased energy and euphoria in people without ADHD.

However, in people with ADHD, cocaine may have a calming effect, as it increases dopaminergic transmission, which is dysfunctional in ADHD. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter involved in pleasure, motivation, and learning. Cocaine may, therefore, help people with ADHD manage symptomsTrusted Source of impulsivity, restlessness, and inattentiveness.

The drug affects certain brain structures, including the:

accumbens and ventral pallidum, which form the reward system
amygdala and hippocampus, which are responsible for working memory
orbitofrontal and subcallosal cortices, which play a role in volition
prefrontal cortex and cingulate gyrus, which are important for executive control
It inhibits the reuptake of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin, meaning that more of these “pleasure chemicals” remain circulating in the blood.

The effects in people without ADHD include increased arousal, euphoria, and increased vigilance and alertness. However, individuals with ADHD may experience relief from the executive and behavioral dysfunctions that occur with the condition.

Are people with ADHD more susceptible to cocaine use disorder?

People with ADHD might be more susceptible to cocaine use disorder and other substance use disorders. For example, a 2014 reviewTrusted Source notes research in which 23% of young adults with substance use disorders also had ADHD.

In a 2021 Canadian studyTrusted Source involving 6,872 people aged 20–39 years, the participants with ADHD were significantly more likely to have a substance use disorder than those without the condition.

When considering cocaine specifically, some studies indicate that the prevalence of cocaine use among adults with ADHD is about 26%, with 1 in 10 individuals developing cocaine use disorder. Comparatively, in the general population, 1.9% of people aged 12 years and older will have used the drug in the last year.

Why may some people with ADHD use cocaine as a treatment?

There are many reasons why people with ADHD may “self-medicate” with cocaine. However, the primary reason is that the effects of cocaine on the brain may help alleviate some of the symptoms associated with ADHD.

Cocaine acts in a similar way to prescription medications on the systems that do not function as they should in people with ADHD. Using cocaine causes a surge in dopamine, making up for the lack of the chemical.

Cocaine use in ADHD may not produce the classic “rush” and high energy state that people without the condition often experience. Instead, those with ADHD may find that cocaine provides more focus and calm. This can be appealing to people who can feel as though they cannot keep up with the world around them.

However, a person should never consider cocaine use as a treatment for ADHD because of the associated risks of this illegal drug.

Worked a large project on site years ago and had a leader with ADHD, his staff would occasionally substitute caffeine coffee for his daily decaf, in order to kick him down a notch. You knew it when they had done it....he was very lethargic, and seemed to stay at his desk and leave everyone alone.

I’m two pots and 3-5 diet cokes a day. And at times whatever else. Offered a script for adderall or similar a few years ago but had the good sense for once to pass.

Honestly, I’m not self medicating these days/at the moment, but think and have some medical professionals I’m personally close to confirm that someone like myself would have a high probability of success moderating my biochemical trash with weed.

Problem is a lot of folks have more than one issue and it’s the “cross pollination” that’s an issue. Complicates the dynamic model running inside a person.

I didn't smoke weed for 40 years. Since it is now legal in NYS my wife and I started puffing together about 6 months ago. We only puff at night after dinner and for us it has been a great stress reliever. Dmac has been advocating the benefits of weed. If you practice moderation it works very well, but it is not for everyone

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:30 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:59 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:34 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:45 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:59 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:11 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:10 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:36 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:34 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:04 pmLevin was a call in, lying sack, no attempt to present the facts -- lots of deflection, what aboutism and anger.

I don't know how he maintains that anger all the time. I remember listening to him on the radio for the first time and half the show was yelling in anger. I guess it's a character, otherwise he'd have had a heart attack decades ago.

Ritalin

Type A personalities are known for this.

I learned that folks who have a combination of adhd and anxiety often seek out the harder illegal version, aka cocaine. Has to do with a high overlap in low dopamine levels. I worry like hell that my son has very light/mold sensory deprivation so seeks out more physicality and related but that it’s really lower dopamine levels given my own experiences in life.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... hd#effects

Excerpt

How does cocaine affect people with ADHD?

Person staring at paintings in a galleryShare on Pinterest
Grant Faint/Getty Images
As cocaine is a stimulant drug, it can cause feelings of increased energy and euphoria in people without ADHD.

However, in people with ADHD, cocaine may have a calming effect, as it increases dopaminergic transmission, which is dysfunctional in ADHD. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter involved in pleasure, motivation, and learning. Cocaine may, therefore, help people with ADHD manage symptomsTrusted Source of impulsivity, restlessness, and inattentiveness.

The drug affects certain brain structures, including the:

accumbens and ventral pallidum, which form the reward system
amygdala and hippocampus, which are responsible for working memory
orbitofrontal and subcallosal cortices, which play a role in volition
prefrontal cortex and cingulate gyrus, which are important for executive control
It inhibits the reuptake of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin, meaning that more of these “pleasure chemicals” remain circulating in the blood.

The effects in people without ADHD include increased arousal, euphoria, and increased vigilance and alertness. However, individuals with ADHD may experience relief from the executive and behavioral dysfunctions that occur with the condition.

Are people with ADHD more susceptible to cocaine use disorder?

People with ADHD might be more susceptible to cocaine use disorder and other substance use disorders. For example, a 2014 reviewTrusted Source notes research in which 23% of young adults with substance use disorders also had ADHD.

In a 2021 Canadian studyTrusted Source involving 6,872 people aged 20–39 years, the participants with ADHD were significantly more likely to have a substance use disorder than those without the condition.

When considering cocaine specifically, some studies indicate that the prevalence of cocaine use among adults with ADHD is about 26%, with 1 in 10 individuals developing cocaine use disorder. Comparatively, in the general population, 1.9% of people aged 12 years and older will have used the drug in the last year.

Why may some people with ADHD use cocaine as a treatment?

There are many reasons why people with ADHD may “self-medicate” with cocaine. However, the primary reason is that the effects of cocaine on the brain may help alleviate some of the symptoms associated with ADHD.

Cocaine acts in a similar way to prescription medications on the systems that do not function as they should in people with ADHD. Using cocaine causes a surge in dopamine, making up for the lack of the chemical.

Cocaine use in ADHD may not produce the classic “rush” and high energy state that people without the condition often experience. Instead, those with ADHD may find that cocaine provides more focus and calm. This can be appealing to people who can feel as though they cannot keep up with the world around them.

However, a person should never consider cocaine use as a treatment for ADHD because of the associated risks of this illegal drug.

Worked a large project on site years ago and had a leader with ADHD, his staff would occasionally substitute caffeine coffee for his daily decaf, in order to kick him down a notch. You knew it when they had done it....he was very lethargic, and seemed to stay at his desk and leave everyone alone.

I’m two pots and 3-5 diet cokes a day. And at times whatever else. Offered a script for adderall or similar a few years ago but had the good sense for once to pass.

Honestly, I’m not self medicating these days/at the moment, but think and have some medical professionals I’m personally close to confirm that someone like myself would have a high probability of success moderating my biochemical trash with weed.

Problem is a lot of folks have more than one issue and it’s the “cross pollination” that’s an issue. Complicates the dynamic model running inside a person.

You can't rule out TBI either, often similar side effects and there are centers out there that can help determine such. Quite often it is football players, military operators from years of training with CQB, explosions, breeching etc. Worth a listen....for another perspective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSqu9mVF5W8

Wife thinks I have CTE but she’s also often hysterical/. That being said I’ve referenced a friend who was a lacrosse player at Brown in the late 90s/2000s who died a few years back from a fall down stairs and they found his brain was Parkinson’s like. He got heavy into booze and bitter often. And the Hobart trainer gets held up for his service but was a terrible POS back then.

I’ve listened to many of the Shawn Ryan podcasts and so many of the Operators are navigating CTE recovery therapy. Many have applauded success with all the newly supported therapies available, but not a one size fits all. And yet, our VA just wants to pump them full of pills, followed by more pills from the first cycle of pill side effects.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:38 pm The cable "news" coverage of the lost submersible is gross. Promoting false hope.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:38 pm The cable "news" coverage of the lost submersible is gross. Promoting false hope.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:25 pm You notice they are not saying anything specific about a recovery vehicle able to reach them at that depth.

That is an incredibly unsafe vehicle. Very little can be done at that depth.

If they're fouled on something, they have to work themselves free. If they haven't done it by now...

If they're on the bottom, they're too deep to be heard if they're banging on the hull. They'd be > 2 miles down.

The media needs to convey how slim the chances are for survival, or even locating a small object at that depth.

Ghoulish.

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:50 pm There's never been a rescue/recovery op at anywhere near that depth.
They're off the continental shelf.

Its only way to surface is to release a weight & float to the surface.
If weight released & still intact it will rise to the surface.

Evasive about when they lost comms.
They'll call it a rescue mission so long as it's theoretically possible they still have O2 for 96 hrs.

Kismet wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:57 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:50 pm There's never been a rescue/recovery op at anywhere near that depth.
They're off the continental shelf.

Its only way to surface is to release a weight & float to the surface.
If weight released & still intact it will rise to the surface.

Evasive about when they lost comms.
They'll call it a rescue mission so long as it's theoretically possible they still have O2 for 96 hrs.

Okay - but as long as they characterize the operation as rescue and not recovery the media are not going jump the gun and go further as you suggest.

May explain why you are not in the media.

They reported the following from the CG press briefing today -

"We don't know what they are, to be frank with you," U.S. Coast Guard Capt. Jamie Frederick says of the underwater noises detected in the search area for the missing sub.

"When you're in the middle of a search and rescue case, you always have hope."

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:51 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:57 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:50 pm There's never been a rescue/recovery op at anywhere near that depth.
They're off the continental shelf.

Its only way to surface is to release a weight & float to the surface.
If weight released & still intact it will rise to the surface.

Evasive about when they lost comms.
They'll call it a rescue mission so long as it's theoretically possible they still have O2 for 96 hrs.

Okay - but as long as they characterize the operation as rescue and not recovery the media are not going jump the gun and go further as you suggest.

May explain why you are not in the media.

They reported the following from the CG press briefing today -

"We don't know what they are, to be frank with you," U.S. Coast Guard Capt. Jamie Frederick says of the underwater noises detected in the search area for the missing sub.

"When you're in the middle of a search and rescue case, you always have hope."

I plead guilty to not being a media ghoul.

They need to temper their hope. They lost comms 1.75 hrs into a 3 hr descent. No ping every 15 min as sched. No text msgs for nav guidance. Part of the ballast holding them down are sand bags designed to dissolve well before now.

The only realistic hope is that they drifted & surfaced, are not able to communicate, & have not been sighted on the surface.

It's a rube goldberg contraption, designed & operated to skirt all regulations & oversight. I
t's safety concerns have been raised before. The recriminations will be swift & harsh.