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Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:32 pm
by Peter Brown
Hey, does Trump get a Nobel like Obama?

The UAE and Israel just signed a major peace accord.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:52 pm
by njbill
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:32 pm Hey, does Trump get a Nobel like Obama?
By resigning perhaps?

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:37 pm
by Peter Brown
njbill wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:52 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:32 pm Hey, does Trump get a Nobel like Obama?
By resigning perhaps?


Obama got the award for no accomplishment.

Shouldn’t Trump get several Nobels for brokering this historic deal?

It’s almost like the prize committee might be biased! :lol:

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:52 pm
by youthathletics
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:32 pm Hey, does Trump get a Nobel like Obama?

The UAE and Israel just signed a major peace accord.
Huge and Bigly move. Well done and a step in the right direction.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:57 pm
by jhu72
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:32 pm Hey, does Trump get a Nobel like Obama?

The UAE and Israel just signed a major peace accord.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Orange Duce is not responsible for that.

IRAN IS! :lol: :lol:

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:47 pm
by Peter Brown
jhu72 wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:57 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:32 pm Hey, does Trump get a Nobel like Obama?

The UAE and Israel just signed a major peace accord.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Orange Duce is not responsible for that.

IRAN IS! :lol: :lol:


Uh oh Libs. Now Oman and Bahrain are joining.

If Trump was Obama, the Nobel Committee would be fellating the guy by now. Something tells me the Committee isn’t Trumpy. :lol:

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:15 pm
by old salt

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:28 am
by Kismet
and now...wait for it.....DOPUS is looking at pardoning Edward Snowden. Putin wins again!!!

I'm sure OS is all for this move, too.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:55 am
by youthathletics
jhu72 wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:57 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:32 pm Hey, does Trump get a Nobel like Obama?

The UAE and Israel just signed a major peace accord.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Orange Duce is not responsible for that.

IRAN IS! :lol: :lol:
How do you know Trump did something well? jhu adds extra laughing emoji's. ;) :lol:

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:10 am
by RedFromMI
READ: Senate Intel Drops Final Russia Probe Report With New Details On Manafort, Stone
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker ... obe-report

Pretty good evidence of Manafort communicating through encrypted apps with GRU through Kilimnik. Also shows the time coordination of dropping John Podesta emails very shortly after the "grab her by the p*ssy" tape hit the airwaves...

Lots of fun stuff...

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:19 am
by Matnum PI
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:37 pmObama got the award for no accomplishment.
Obama was a world leader and liked. Per the Nobel, "Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world’s population." Trump is the opposite of this.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:20 pm
by Peter Brown
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:19 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:37 pmObama got the award for no accomplishment.
Obama was a world leader and liked. Per the Nobel, "Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world’s population." Trump is the opposite of this.


On the scale of what should matter, ie: actual accomplishment, Obama achieved nothing for world peace, in fact arguably exacerbated the regional problems with his Iranian miscues.

Israel is now signing peace and reciprocal recognition treaties all over the Middle East. Just today, Jordan!

Look, I get it that you don't like Trump, nor does the Nobel Committee, but the facts are on Trump's side here and I liked Obama!

In any event, Trump will likely be like David Bowie turning down the Queen's knighthood...it's just not for him. Though I wouldn't be surprised if he accepted since he does have the ego of a showman in him.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:33 pm
by Matnum PI
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:20 pm In any event, Trump will likely be like David Bowie turning down the Queen's knighthood...it's just not for him. Though I wouldn't be surprised if he accepted since he does have the ego of a showman in him.
You may be getting ahead of yourself...

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:52 pm
by Typical Lax Dad

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:45 pm
by old salt
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:52 pm If Trump and Manafort can work with the Russians, why can’t a Green Beret?

Oh well....it doesn’t matter anymore.
Good week for FBI counter intel. They also bagged a CIA official selling secrets to China.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-arm ... or-russia/

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:11 pm
by Typical Lax Dad

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:07 pm
by old salt

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:27 pm
by RedFromMI
old salt wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:07 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:11 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:52 pm If Trump and Manafort can work with the Russians, why can’t a Green Beret?

Oh well....it doesn’t matter anymore.
Good week for FBI counter intel. They also bagged a CIA official selling secrets to China.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-arm ... or-russia/
Great week.....They also bagged Trump and his crew:

Overall, the report said, Manafort's proximity to then-candidate Trump "created opportunities for the Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign." Manafort's willingness to share information with Kilimnik and other Russian operatives, it said, "represented a grave counterintelligence threat."
So Manafort is being charged with espionage, like the other two ?
Nope - not enough proof, given his use of Telegram and like encrypted communications. But a reasonable inference that he was sharing with them.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:28 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:07 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:11 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:52 pm If Trump and Manafort can work with the Russians, why can’t a Green Beret?

Oh well....it doesn’t matter anymore.
Good week for FBI counter intel. They also bagged a CIA official selling secrets to China.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-arm ... or-russia/
Great week.....They also bagged Trump and his crew:

Overall, the report said, Manafort's proximity to then-candidate Trump "created opportunities for the Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign." Manafort's willingness to share information with Kilimnik and other Russian operatives, it said, "represented a grave counterintelligence threat."
So Manafort is being charged with espionage, like the other two ?
No.

Re: The Politics of National Security

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:56 am
by Typical Lax Dad