Sensible Gun Safety

[youthathletics]

Dear old dad - after getting a visit from local police about his son making threats to shoot up a school online told investigators that his firearms in the home was not accessible to his kid. Kid denies online Discord account isn't him.
Dad then goes out and purchases the assault rifle used in the murders as a Christmas gift for same kid.....and then moves to an adjacent county.

He should be in jail along with his kid.

Incredible. 2A my aazz

He has been arrested

[Typical Lax Dad]

Baseball, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie and an AR-15….the American Way.

Colin Gray, the father of the suspect in the Apalachee High School shooting, has been arrested, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. He’s charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children.
His 14-year-old son, accused of killing two students and two teachers with an AR-15-style rifle, told investigators “I did it” while being questioned, the Barrow County sheriff said. The student faces four counts of felony murder, according to charging documents obtained by CNN.
Colin Gray told investigators he purchased the gun used in the killings as a holiday present for his son in December 2023, according to two law enforcement sources. That would put the purchase months after authorities first interviewed the father and son as they investigated a school shooting threat.
During a search of the suspect’s home, authorities found documents they believe were written by the suspect and referenced past school shootings, a law enforcement source tells

[DMac]

Baseball, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie and an AR-15….the American Way.

That's right, and don't be tellin' no one what kind of gun they can't have, 2A (abused to the max with "what if" stories), baby.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Baseball, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie and an AR-15….the American Way.

That's right, and don't be tellin' no one what kind of gun they can't have, 2A (abused to the max with "what if" stories), baby.

I know a lot of families with kids at Sandy Hook that day….was on the phone with a Newton friend and he was wondering what all the sirens were about. We soon found out.

[DMac]

Mind boggling stuff. How do you ever overcome that when it's you it happens to?
Am just not seeing much of a solution to the pollution of guns we have from the
amber waves of grain and from sea to shing sea. Too many guns and too hard to
control. Nore purchased every day, legally and illegally. See Colin Grey.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Mind boggling stuff. How do you ever overcome that when it's you it happens to?
Am just not seeing much of a solution to the pollution of guns we have from the
amber waves of grain and from sea to shing sea. Too many guns and too hard to
control. Nore purchased every day, legally and illegally. See Colin Grey.

https://www.ctpublic.org/news/2022-12-1 ... ophic-loss

Lanza had a god given right to all those guns. The government can’t tell people what kind and how many weapons they can have…

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://apple.news/A0KVPV5JMThmEkUYKMkVERA

[PizzaSnake]

https://apple.news/A0KVPV5JMThmEkUYKMkVERA

Vance is a vapid, callow pud. His presence on the Republican ticket stands in stark contrast to that of Walz.

Trump/Vance perfectly embody this quote:

“Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they scuk. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who scuk. Maybe something else scuks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public scuks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.”

—George Carlin

[cradleandshoot]

https://apple.news/A0KVPV5JMThmEkUYKMkVERA

Vance is a vapid, callow pud. His presence on the Republican ticket stands in stark contrast to that of Walz.

Trump/Vance perfectly embody this quote:

“Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they scuk. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who scuk. Maybe something else scuks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public scuks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.”

—George Carlin

Funny that the Public Sucks and F**k Hope has been the FLP go to mantra of why they hate MAGA folks.

[PizzaSnake]

https://apple.news/A0KVPV5JMThmEkUYKMkVERA

Vance is a vapid, callow pud. His presence on the Republican ticket stands in stark contrast to that of Walz.

Trump/Vance perfectly embody this quote:

“Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they scuk. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who scuk. Maybe something else scuks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public scuks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.”

—George Carlin

Funny that the Public Sucks and F**k Hope has been the FLP go to mantra of why they hate MAGA folks.

"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders."

QED.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/05/us/video ... igvid-ebof

It is CNN…..fake news.

[cradleandshoot]

https://apple.news/A0KVPV5JMThmEkUYKMkVERA

Vance is a vapid, callow pud. His presence on the Republican ticket stands in stark contrast to that of Walz.

Trump/Vance perfectly embody this quote:

“Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they scuk. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who scuk. Maybe something else scuks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public scuks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.”

—George Carlin

Funny that the Public Sucks and F**k Hope has been the FLP go to mantra of why they hate MAGA folks.

"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders."

QED.

But I never voted for either Biden or trump.

[NattyBohChamps04]

But I never voted for either Biden or trump.

[NattyBohChamps04]

https://apple.news/A0KVPV5JMThmEkUYKMkVERA

Vance is a vapid, callow pud. His presence on the Republican ticket stands in stark contrast to that of Walz.

Trump/Vance perfectly embody this quote:

“Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they scuk. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who scuk. Maybe something else scuks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public scuks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.”

—George Carlin

[cradleandshoot]

And through all of the outrage on this forum none of you ever mentions the scourge of illegal weapons. When you add up the carnage night after night in urban America it never registers a blip on The Nightly News with Lester Holt. Not even a peep about how many people are shot in Chicago on a typical weekend.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I love the pro school shooters that post here.

[PizzaSnake]

And through all of the outrage on this forum none of you ever mentions the scourge of illegal weapons. When you add up the carnage night after night in urban America it never registers a blip on The Nightly News with Lester Holt. Not even a peep about how many people are shot in Chicago on a typical weekend.

Okay, I'll entertain this gambit.

What is your plan? How would you retrieve those weapons in circulation, and how would you limit the introduction of additional?

Take your time...

[OCanada]

And through all of the outrage on this forum none of you ever mentions the scourge of illegal weapons. When you add up the carnage night after night in urban America it never registers a blip on The Nightly News with Lester Holt. Not even a peep about how many people are shot in Chicago on a typical weekend.

You never mention murders rates. Why don’t you give it a try. Which states and cities have the highest murder rates.

Some assistance: https://time.com/6223217/homicide-rates-us-cities-2021/. What is with Texas?

[cradleandshoot]

And through all of the outrage on this forum none of you ever mentions the scourge of illegal weapons. When you add up the carnage night after night in urban America it never registers a blip on The Nightly News with Lester Holt. Not even a peep about how many people are shot in Chicago on a typical weekend.

Okay, I'll entertain this gambit.

What is your plan? How would you retrieve those weapons in circulation, and how would you limit the introduction of additional?

Take your time...

It starts with actually doing something to get illegal weapons out of the hands of 14 year olds. A year or so ago in NYS if you were caught with an illegal weapon law enforcement started the ball rolling. Law enforcement backtracks who sold the gun and where it originated from. If the weapon passed state lines the case is handed over to the ATF and the prosecution of the stolen weapon becomes a felony prosecuted by the US Government with a lengthy sentence in a federal prison. While it's not a perfect solution in all cases it is a start. At the very least it will let people know that if you bring an illegal gun across state lines and sell it don't get caught.

The possibility of time in a federal prison can be a big persuader. Any juvenile caught with an illegal weapon should face serious charges so they understand that being 14 years old doesn't mean you can't go to a correctional facility for youths. This is harsh stuff but it will send a message loud and clear. There is no fear at present about possessing an illegal weapon because the legal system doesn't take the problem seriously.

[OCanada]

Dealing in stereotypes? The kids parents should be charged and tried with stiff penalties. Is recidivism a word you know?