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Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:19 pm
by tech37
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:42 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:35 pm Well of course all starting blocks are not the same no matter what color you are referring to. That's called chance.

Should I expect someone in the 1%, no matter their color, to owe me something? No of course not, there's the luck of the draw and then what they did with it.
If it was chance, then tails would come up 50% of the time. The position of blacks and whites in america, economically, the judicial system, and otherwise, isn't chance. It's due to a stacked system. And a stacked system is not "luck".
What about poor whites in Appalachia compared to poor blacks in Chicago? All things being equal, who should I feel more empathy toward and what does that have to do with color? And actually, one could argue that poor blacks in Chicago have had more resources and opportunities.

Perhaps we just call the movement Poor Lives Matter and forget the fabricated White Privilege nonsense.

This is no longer the 19th Century, it's 2020. We have elected a black POTUS, twice. Why is this happening now? Trump for one, Covid for two.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:23 pm
by Peter Brown
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:19 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:42 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:35 pm Well of course all starting blocks are not the same no matter what color you are referring to. That's called chance.

Should I expect someone in the 1%, no matter their color, to owe me something? No of course not, there's the luck of the draw and then what they did with it.
If it was chance, then tails would come up 50% of the time. The position of blacks and whites in america, economically, the judicial system, and otherwise, isn't chance. It's due to a stacked system. And a stacked system is not "luck".
What about poor whites in Appalachia compared to poor blacks in Chicago? All things being equal, who should I feel more empathy toward and what does that have to do with color? And actually, one could argue that poor blacks in Chicago have had more resources and opportunities.

Perhaps we just call the movement Poor Lives Matter and forget the fabricated White Privilege nonsense.

This is no longer the 19th Century, it's 2020. We have elected a black POTUS, twice. Why is this happening now? Trump for one, Covid for two.


Good points.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:29 pm
by tech37
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:42 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:35 pm Well of course all starting blocks are not the same no matter what color you are referring to. That's called chance.

Should I expect someone in the 1%, no matter their color, to owe me something? No of course not, there's the luck of the draw and then what they did with it.
If it was chance, then tails would come up 50% of the time. The position of blacks and whites in america, economically, the judicial system, and otherwise, isn't chance. It's due to a stacked system. And a stacked system is not "luck".
OK so fix the system but don't claim that it has anything to do with race. That's the lie.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:31 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:23 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:19 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:42 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:35 pm Well of course all starting blocks are not the same no matter what color you are referring to. That's called chance.

Should I expect someone in the 1%, no matter their color, to owe me something? No of course not, there's the luck of the draw and then what they did with it.
If it was chance, then tails would come up 50% of the time. The position of blacks and whites in america, economically, the judicial system, and otherwise, isn't chance. It's due to a stacked system. And a stacked system is not "luck".
What about poor whites in Appalachia compared to poor blacks in Chicago? All things being equal, who should I feel more empathy toward and what does that have to do with color? And actually, one could argue that poor blacks in Chicago have had more resources and opportunities.

Perhaps we just call the movement Poor Lives Matter and forget the fabricated White Privilege nonsense.

This is no longer the 19th Century, it's 2020. We have elected a black POTUS, twice. Why is this happening now? Trump for one, Covid for two.


Good points.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:37 pm
by cradleandshoot
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:23 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:19 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:42 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:35 pm Well of course all starting blocks are not the same no matter what color you are referring to. That's called chance.

Should I expect someone in the 1%, no matter their color, to owe me something? No of course not, there's the luck of the draw and then what they did with it.
If it was chance, then tails would come up 50% of the time. The position of blacks and whites in america, economically, the judicial system, and otherwise, isn't chance. It's due to a stacked system. And a stacked system is not "luck".
What about poor whites in Appalachia compared to poor blacks in Chicago? All things being equal, who should I feel more empathy toward and what does that have to do with color? And actually, one could argue that poor blacks in Chicago have had more resources and opportunities.

Perhaps we just call the movement Poor Lives Matter and forget the fabricated White Privilege nonsense.

This is no longer the 19th Century, it's 2020. We have elected a black POTUS, twice. Why is this happening now? Trump for one, Covid for two.


Good points.
+1

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:38 pm
by tech37
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:44 pm
ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:41 pmand lastly, if we don't treat each other as equals, i don't think we'll ever achieve bona fide equality.
agreed. and, if people can't see their role in the systematic racism that courses through the blood of america, there's little to no hope for change.
You're seriously going to tell me what my so-called "role" is? So tell me MPI, what's my "role?"

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:44 pm
by tech37
ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:41 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:50 pm I really disagree with anyone telling me that what I've done with my life is due to White Privilege and I should view everyone non-white, and their situation, from some sort of guilt-ridden purgatory. I view my position in relation to non-whites who have difficult lives just as I view poor whites who have difficult lives. Color has nothing to do with it. That's why, IMO, White Privilege and Fragility are invented racist concepts.
not that i agree nor disagree- but this is why i think the ultimate movement will not take hold with a portion of white voters, who rightly or wrongly think they have it just as bad or worse than others.

that, and we use the term racism to mean different things.

and lastly, if we don't treat each other as equals, i don't think we'll ever achieve bona fide equality.
How does BLM have anything to do with treating each other as equals? Please answer chairman.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:46 pm
by Peter Brown
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:38 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:44 pm
ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:41 pmand lastly, if we don't treat each other as equals, i don't think we'll ever achieve bona fide equality.
agreed. and, if people can't see their role in the systematic racism that courses through the blood of america, there's little to no hope for change.
You're seriously going to tell me what my so-called "role" is? So tell me MPI, what's my "role?"


The Democratic Party is chock-full of self-important, entitled know-it-alls; if you don't realize that, just ask them. They know it all! You are racist; they on the other hand are not. (the likelihood of them knowing any black person let alone elevating one is close to zero) :lol:

The inability to have independent thought to any DNC media narrative is as scary as any other mental and emotional deficiency you see today from Democrats. Look how catatonically gullible they became about Russiagate. Few bothered to ask a very obvious question: WHO pushed the false narrative (rather than, is the narrative truthful).

You know you've gone over the edge of normalcy when you look to our MSM media as a guiding light of truth. Most of our MSM is in effect a DNC mouthpiece; that grows stronger every day, as raising independent thought sidelines you, whereas repeating clear falsehoods actually makes your job more secure (Natasha Bertrand is Exhibit A).

Matnum I assume is a Democrat. Democrats repeat verbatim what the media tells them is the story, when the media massages the story way more than they report it.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:46 pm
by DocBarrister
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:15 pm How is this helpful?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/29/trump-s ... using.html

Who does this statement appeal to?
You know to whom this statement appeals.

It’s Trump telling white suburbanites that he is going to do what he can to keep people of color out of their neighborhoods.

It’s a racist ploy straight out of the 1950s-1970s.

Trump understands his political base well.

DocBarrister :?

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:49 pm
by DocBarrister
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:46 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:38 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:44 pm
ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:41 pmand lastly, if we don't treat each other as equals, i don't think we'll ever achieve bona fide equality.
agreed. and, if people can't see their role in the systematic racism that courses through the blood of america, there's little to no hope for change.
You're seriously going to tell me what my so-called "role" is? So tell me MPI, what's my "role?"


The Democratic Party is chock-full of self-important, entitled know-it-alls; if you don't realize that, just ask them. They know it all! You are racist; they on the other hand are not. (the likelihood of them knowing any black person let alone elevating one is close to zero) :lol:

The inability to have independent thought to any DNC media narrative is as scary as any other mental and emotional deficiency you see today from Democrats. Look how catatonically gullible they became about Russiagate. Few bothered to ask a very obvious question: WHO pushed the false narrative (rather than, is the narrative truthful).

You know you've gone over the edge of normalcy when you look to our MSM media as a guiding light of truth. Most of our MSM is in effect a DNC mouthpiece; that grows stronger every day, as raising independent thought sidelines you, whereas repeating clear falsehoods actually makes your job more secure (Natasha Bertrand is Exhibit A).

Matnum I assume is a Democrat. Democrats repeat verbatim what the media tells them is the story, when the media massages the story way more than they report it.
Just a friendly periodic reminder that Peter Brown supports the re-legalization of racial segregation.

Carry on. Thank you.

DocBarrister 8-)

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:50 pm
by Peter Brown
DocBarrister wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:46 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:15 pm How is this helpful?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/29/trump-s ... using.html

Who does this statement appeal to?
You know to whom this statement appeals.

It’s Trump telling white suburbanites that he is going to do what he can to keep people of color out of their neighborhoods.

It’s a racist ploy straight out of the 1950s-1970s.

Trump understands his political base well.

DocBarrister :?


My experience in life is that when anyone yells the loudest about some non-issue, they are often the most guilty. The preacher screaming about pornography too often hides the biggest and most vile stash in his basement.

The same is true of racism. Anyone constantly screaming about is far more likely to be the man who has never interacted with a black person, has never elevated a black person, and ultimately cares the least about a black person. Take that fact to the bank, gents.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:55 pm
by youthathletics
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:38 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:44 pm
ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:41 pmand lastly, if we don't treat each other as equals, i don't think we'll ever achieve bona fide equality.
agreed. and, if people can't see their role in the systematic racism that courses through the blood of america, there's little to no hope for change.
It is called forgiveness. Up and until you truly forgive someone, you are the one that will have suffering. It does not mean forget, it does not mean you will not hurt. Forgiveness can happen alone...it does not require the other person to hear it. https://www.acts29.com/forgiveness-what ... it-is-not/

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:00 pm
by youthathletics
DocBarrister wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:46 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:15 pm How is this helpful?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/29/trump-s ... using.html

Who does this statement appeal to?
You know to whom this statement appeals.

It’s Trump telling white suburbanites that he is going to do what he can to keep people of color out of their neighborhoods.

It’s a racist ploy straight out of the 1950s-1970s.

Trump understands his political base well.

DocBarrister :?
Embarrassing to even think that way doc.

This was briefly discussed Saturday morning.

viewtopic.php?p=170958#p170958

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:04 pm
by seacoaster
youthathletics wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:00 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:46 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:15 pm How is this helpful?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/29/trump-s ... using.html

Who does this statement appeal to?
You know to whom this statement appeals.

It’s Trump telling white suburbanites that he is going to do what he can to keep people of color out of their neighborhoods.

It’s a racist ploy straight out of the 1950s-1970s.

Trump understands his political base well.

DocBarrister :?
Embarrassing to even think that way doc.

This was briefly discussed Saturday morning.

viewtopic.php?p=170958#p170958
YA, everyone thinks that is exactly what Trump is messaging to people. Everyone. He is the White Folks candidate.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:09 pm
by ChairmanOfTheBoard
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:44 pm
ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:41 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:50 pm I really disagree with anyone telling me that what I've done with my life is due to White Privilege and I should view everyone non-white, and their situation, from some sort of guilt-ridden purgatory. I view my position in relation to non-whites who have difficult lives just as I view poor whites who have difficult lives. Color has nothing to do with it. That's why, IMO, White Privilege and Fragility are invented racist concepts.
not that i agree nor disagree- but this is why i think the ultimate movement will not take hold with a portion of white voters, who rightly or wrongly think they have it just as bad or worse than others.

that, and we use the term racism to mean different things.

and lastly, if we don't treat each other as equals, i don't think we'll ever achieve bona fide equality.
How does BLM have anything to do with treating each other as equals? Please answer chairman.
i assume this was rhetorical?

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:12 pm
by youthathletics
seacoaster wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:04 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:00 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:46 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:15 pm How is this helpful?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/29/trump-s ... using.html

Who does this statement appeal to?
You know to whom this statement appeals.

It’s Trump telling white suburbanites that he is going to do what he can to keep people of color out of their neighborhoods.

It’s a racist ploy straight out of the 1950s-1970s.

Trump understands his political base well.

DocBarrister :?
Embarrassing to even think that way doc.

This was briefly discussed Saturday morning.

viewtopic.php?p=170958#p170958
YA, everyone thinks that is exactly what Trump is messaging to people. Everyone. He is the White Folks candidate.
Only racist and angry people believe that. If that were the case...why did he bother to pass legislation that supports black prisoners early releases. You guys make no damned sense. Use your heads from something other than a hat rack.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:12 pm
by tech37
ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:09 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:44 pm
ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:41 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:50 pm I really disagree with anyone telling me that what I've done with my life is due to White Privilege and I should view everyone non-white, and their situation, from some sort of guilt-ridden purgatory. I view my position in relation to non-whites who have difficult lives just as I view poor whites who have difficult lives. Color has nothing to do with it. That's why, IMO, White Privilege and Fragility are invented racist concepts.
not that i agree nor disagree- but this is why i think the ultimate movement will not take hold with a portion of white voters, who rightly or wrongly think they have it just as bad or worse than others.

that, and we use the term racism to mean different things.

and lastly, if we don't treat each other as equals, i don't think we'll ever achieve bona fide equality.
How does BLM have anything to do with treating each other as equals? Please answer chairman.
i assume this was rhetorical?
Not in the least. Explain to me how that movement has anything to do with treating each other as equals?

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:17 pm
by kramerica.inc
seacoaster wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:04 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:00 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:46 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:15 pm How is this helpful?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/29/trump-s ... using.html

Who does this statement appeal to?
You know to whom this statement appeals.

It’s Trump telling white suburbanites that he is going to do what he can to keep people of color out of their neighborhoods.

It’s a racist ploy straight out of the 1950s-1970s.

Trump understands his political base well.

DocBarrister :?
Embarrassing to even think that way doc.

This was briefly discussed Saturday morning.

viewtopic.php?p=170958#p170958
YA, everyone thinks that is exactly what Trump is messaging to people. Everyone. He is the White Folks candidate.
The assumption that blacks don’t live in suburbia, have property, or care about their homes or property values is incredibly racist. This is 2020, not 1970. If you don’t believe me, come on out to any suburb of Philly or Baltimore.

This tweet appealed to everyone who gtfo of cities and moved to suburbia to avoid the bull shirt that is happening IN the cities right now. Regardless of color.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:20 pm
by Peter Brown
Democrats make everyone around them dumb, not the least being Democrats.

Bed And Breakfast Removes Norwegian Flag After People (Democrats) Mistake It For Confederate Flag


https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/29/bed- ... rate-flag/

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:40 pm
by ChairmanOfTheBoard
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:12 pm
ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:09 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:44 pm
ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:41 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:50 pm I really disagree with anyone telling me that what I've done with my life is due to White Privilege and I should view everyone non-white, and their situation, from some sort of guilt-ridden purgatory. I view my position in relation to non-whites who have difficult lives just as I view poor whites who have difficult lives. Color has nothing to do with it. That's why, IMO, White Privilege and Fragility are invented racist concepts.
not that i agree nor disagree- but this is why i think the ultimate movement will not take hold with a portion of white voters, who rightly or wrongly think they have it just as bad or worse than others.

that, and we use the term racism to mean different things.

and lastly, if we don't treat each other as equals, i don't think we'll ever achieve bona fide equality.
How does BLM have anything to do with treating each other as equals? Please answer chairman.
i assume this was rhetorical?
Not in the least. Explain to me how that movement has anything to do with treating each other as equals?
i don't know. i don't have an answer for that. did i even say that?