Race in America - Riots Explode in Chicago

[foreverlax]

Because we just love putting people in cages, we (collectively) think that's how people learn their lessons. War on drugs, just a brilliant way to find occupants for those empty cells. Back child support...put 'em in jail (now that makes a lot of sense). Jail 'em, that's what we do....works like a champ too, eh?

You fergot what happens if you don't pay yer taxes. You could be the nicest person in the world, that won't impress uncle sam one little bit. Those must be the kinda criminals we want in jail?

Except that's not even close to accurate of the .01%'ers....you and me, yea, we get the red carpet.

[Peter Brown]

White privilege is a hoax, folks.

Get back to work. Protect your family. Go to church. Stay fit. Don’t compromise with lefties.

Thanks.

[CU88]

The only surprise is that someone ratted him out. Here is your "antifa":

‘Umbrella man’ was a white supremacist trying to incite violence at George Floyd protests, police say
A masked white man who was seen in a viral video holding an umbrella and smashing the windows of a South Minneapolis auto parts store during the early days of protests over the killing of George Floyd has been identified by police as a suspected white supremacist who was seeking to incite racial violence.

The mysterious figure dubbed “umbrella man” on social media is a suspected member of the Hell’s Angels biker gang, the Star Tribune reported, citing a search warrant affidavit filed in court this week by a Minneapolis police arson investigator.

The police affidavit quoted by the paper says the man’s May 27 vandalism at an AutoZone near the city’s 3rd Precinct police station disrupted what had been a mostly peaceful demonstration two days after Floyd’s death in police custody. The automotive parts supply store was among the first buildings set aflame, triggering days of destructive protests that left a wide swath of the city burned and destroyed.

“This was the first fire that set off a string of fires and looting throughout the precinct and the rest of the city,” arson investigator Erika Christensen wrote in a court filing obtained by the Star Tribune. “Until the actions of the person your affiant has been calling ‘Umbrella man,’ the protests had been relatively peaceful. The actions of this person created an atmosphere of hostility and tension. Your affiant believes that this individual’s sole aim was to incite violence.”

Because the suspect has not been formally charged, the Star Tribune did not identify him, but describes him as a 32-year-old man who has also been implicated in another racial incident in nearby Stillwater, Minn., in which a Muslim woman was harassed by a group of men wearing white supremacist clothing. Police reportedly identified him based on a tip emailed to investigators last week.

[cradleandshoot]

Because we just love putting people in cages, we (collectively) think that's how people learn their lessons. War on drugs, just a brilliant way to find occupants for those empty cells. Back child support...put 'em in jail (now that makes a lot of sense). Jail 'em, that's what we do....works like a champ too, eh?

You fergot what happens if you don't pay yer taxes. You could be the nicest person in the world, that won't impress uncle sam one little bit. Those must be the kinda criminals we want in jail?

Except that's not even close to accurate of the .01%'ers....you and me, yea, we get the red carpet.

It is sure as hell accurate if your Joe or Jane middle class American. The IRS will hunt your arse down like you were a rabid dog. They will have no qualms tossing you in jail either.

[jhu72]

The only surprise is that someone ratted him out. Here is your "antifa":

‘Umbrella man’ was a white supremacist trying to incite violence at George Floyd protests, police say
A masked white man who was seen in a viral video holding an umbrella and smashing the windows of a South Minneapolis auto parts store during the early days of protests over the killing of George Floyd has been identified by police as a suspected white supremacist who was seeking to incite racial violence.

The mysterious figure dubbed “umbrella man” on social media is a suspected member of the Hell’s Angels biker gang, the Star Tribune reported, citing a search warrant affidavit filed in court this week by a Minneapolis police arson investigator.

The police affidavit quoted by the paper says the man’s May 27 vandalism at an AutoZone near the city’s 3rd Precinct police station disrupted what had been a mostly peaceful demonstration two days after Floyd’s death in police custody. The automotive parts supply store was among the first buildings set aflame, triggering days of destructive protests that left a wide swath of the city burned and destroyed.

“This was the first fire that set off a string of fires and looting throughout the precinct and the rest of the city,” arson investigator Erika Christensen wrote in a court filing obtained by the Star Tribune. “Until the actions of the person your affiant has been calling ‘Umbrella man,’ the protests had been relatively peaceful. The actions of this person created an atmosphere of hostility and tension. Your affiant believes that this individual’s sole aim was to incite violence.”

Because the suspect has not been formally charged, the Star Tribune did not identify him, but describes him as a 32-year-old man who has also been implicated in another racial incident in nearby Stillwater, Minn., in which a Muslim woman was harassed by a group of men wearing white supremacist clothing. Police reportedly identified him based on a tip emailed to investigators last week.

… not even a little surprised that we have some of Peanut Butter's buddies stirring up trouble and trying to blame others. Before it is all done we will find the same thing has happened in Portland and Seattle. Already seen it in Richmond and now Minneapolis.

[CU88]

Is anyone here surprised by the r use of race and anti-semitism? Gotta play to their base voters...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/politics ... index.html

[jhu72]

AP story about "umbrella man".

[jhu72]

Is anyone here surprised by the r use of race and anti-semitism? Gotta play to their base voters...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/politics ... index.html

… let me go on record as a NO.

[cradleandshoot]

AP story about "umbrella man".

I am starting to believe 72 that you have an Umbrella fetish. have you watched Mary Poppins too many times?

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view ... ajaxhist=0

[kramerica.inc]

Peaceful protestor falsely accused:

https://breaking911.com/man-faces-feder ... -protests/

[foreverlax]

White privilege is a hoax, folks.

Get back to work. Protect your family. Go to church. Stay fit. Don’t compromise with lefties.

Thanks.

Says the privileged white guy.

[jhu72]

Peaceful protestor falsely accused:

https://breaking911.com/man-faces-feder ... -protests/

… if you read the story, pretty clear he was not a peaceful protestor. More likely a punk, police record, domestic violence, etc. Given the way he was caught, identified, I'd say he is also pretty stupid.

[Peter Brown]

White privilege is a hoax, folks.

Get back to work. Protect your family. Go to church. Stay fit. Don’t compromise with lefties.

Thanks.

Says the privileged white guy.

Then listen to this non-white guy who feels the same way:

https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/the-falla ... g-society/

[foreverlax]

White privilege is a hoax, folks.

Get back to work. Protect your family. Go to church. Stay fit. Don’t compromise with lefties.

Thanks.

Says the privileged white guy.

Then listen to this non-white guy who feels the same way:

https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/the-falla ... g-society/

“White privilege doesn’t mean your life hasn’t been hard. It just means your race isn’t one of the things that make it harder.”

So we can agree on the above?

[Peter Brown]

White privilege is a hoax, folks.

Get back to work. Protect your family. Go to church. Stay fit. Don’t compromise with lefties.

Thanks.

Says the privileged white guy.

Then listen to this non-white guy who feels the same way:

https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/the-falla ... g-society/

“White privilege doesn’t mean your life hasn’t been hard. It just means your race isn’t one of the things that make it harder.”

So we can agree on the above?

In the abstract, I agree that (presuming I have been around people of my same race most but all of my life) my color has likely not been a part of any thought by me or others around me, except the times when it has.

But more cogently, your question implies consent to a narrative which doesn't exist, nor does it account for the vast complexity of life. Do we know, for example, that reverse discrimination does not exist and if it does, what of the person who has been impacted there, does his life not count?

We would need to deliberate for decades to understand relative benefits and hurdles of race; there simply is not enough time from either of us to arrive at any conclusion that would satisfy.

My call on this whole nonsense is: some but not all police have built up a tolerance of excessive force; more police interactions involve African Americans than other races; the reason African Americans are involved with police actions is not because they are targeted per se but because they call the police far more often and are far more often involved with crime (perp and victim); people of color have legitimate historical burdens and complaints, having been brought to America as slaves; there is almost no way to wipe those burdens away outside of a long, slow path to success; capitalism helps people become successful, socialism stunts them; Democrats feast on racial discord; this newest surge of violence and discord is being fomented by Democratic politicians and their media cousins; Democrats will overreach as they always do, repelling normal Americans including African Americans who are indeed successful and enjoy peace viua law and order.

[Typical Lax Dad]

White privilege is a hoax, folks.

Get back to work. Protect your family. Go to church. Stay fit. Don’t compromise with lefties.

Thanks.

Says the privileged white guy.

Then listen to this non-white guy who feels the same way:

https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/the-falla ... g-society/

“White privilege doesn’t mean your life hasn’t been hard. It just means your race isn’t one of the things that make it harder.”

So we can agree on the above?

In the abstract, I agree that (presuming I have been around people of my same race most but all of my life) my color has likely not been a part of any thought by me or others around me, except the times when it has.

But more cogently, your question implies consent to a narrative which doesn't exist, nor does it account for the vast complexity of life. Do we know, for example, that reverse discrimination does not exist and if it does, what of the person who has been impacted there, does his life not count?

We would need to deliberate for decades to understand relative benefits and hurdles of race; there simply is not enough time from either of us to arrive at any conclusion that would satisfy.

My call on this whole nonsense is: some but not all police have built up a tolerance of excessive force; more police interactions involve African Americans than other races; the reason African Americans are involved with police actions is not because they are targeted per se but because they call the police far more often and are far more often involved with crime (perp and victim); people of color have legitimate historical burdens and complaints, having been brought to America as slaves; there is almost no way to wipe those burdens away outside of a long, slow path to success; capitalism helps people become successful, socialism stunts them; Democrats feast on racial discord; this newest surge of violence and discord is being fomented by Democratic politicians and their media cousins; Democrats will overreach as they always do, repelling normal Americans including African Americans who are indeed successful and enjoy peace viua law and order.

Reverse discrimination? Where has that been institutionalized? Give me a couple of examples.

Also, what is your concept of Black Privilege?

[foreverlax]

White privilege is a hoax, folks.

Get back to work. Protect your family. Go to church. Stay fit. Don’t compromise with lefties.

Thanks.

Says the privileged white guy.

Then listen to this non-white guy who feels the same way:

https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/the-falla ... g-society/

“White privilege doesn’t mean your life hasn’t been hard. It just means your race isn’t one of the things that make it harder.”

So we can agree on the above?

In the abstract, I agree that (presuming I have been around people of my same race most but all of my life) my color has likely not been a part of any thought by me or others around me, except the times when it has. Example?

But more cogently, your question implies consent to a narrative which doesn't exist, nor does it account for the vast complexity of life. Do we know, for example, that reverse discrimination does not exist and if it does, what of the person who has been impacted there, does his life not count? First you say we know it doesn't exist....of course every person should count.

We would need to deliberate for decades to understand relative benefits and hurdles of race; there simply is not enough time from either of us to arrive at any conclusion that would satisfy. This has been deliberated for at least a century....

My call on this whole nonsense is: some but not all police have built up a tolerance of excessive force; more police interactions involve African Americans than other races; the reason African Americans are involved with police actions is not because they are targeted per se but because they call the police far more often and are far more often involved with crime (perp and victim); Is this an actual fact?

people of color have legitimate historical burdens and complaints, having been brought to America as slaves; True

there is almost no way to wipe those burdens away outside of a long, slow path to success; How many years does it take?

capitalism helps people become successful, socialism stunts them; Potentially agree....of course the definition matter.

Democrats feast on racial discord; this newest surge of violence and discord is being fomented by Democratic politicians and their media cousins; Not worthy of response

Democrats will overreach as they always do, repelling normal Americans including African Americans who are indeed successful and enjoy peace viua law and order.

The author you quote happens to be a 19 y.o. Canadian....

[foreverlax]

the reason African Americans are involved with police actions is not because they are targeted per se but because they call the police far more often and are far more often involved with crime

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpa11.pdf

No statistical differences were found between the percentage of Hispanics (86%), blacks (85%), and whites (83%) who reported a crime or neighborhood disturbance and felt the police were helpful.

Evidently Petey got his facts wrong, again....

[Peter Brown]

White privilege is a hoax, folks.

Get back to work. Protect your family. Go to church. Stay fit. Don’t compromise with lefties.

Thanks.

Says the privileged white guy.

Then listen to this non-white guy who feels the same way:

https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/the-falla ... g-society/

“White privilege doesn’t mean your life hasn’t been hard. It just means your race isn’t one of the things that make it harder.”

So we can agree on the above?

In the abstract, I agree that (presuming I have been around people of my same race most but all of my life) my color has likely not been a part of any thought by me or others around me, except the times when it has. Example? 1

But more cogently, your question implies consent to a narrative which doesn't exist, nor does it account for the vast complexity of life. Do we know, for example, that reverse discrimination does not exist and if it does, what of the person who has been impacted there, does his life not count? First you say we know it doesn't exist....of course every person should count. 2

We would need to deliberate for decades to understand relative benefits and hurdles of race; there simply is not enough time from either of us to arrive at any conclusion that would satisfy. This has been deliberated for at least a century.... 2

My call on this whole nonsense is: some but not all police have built up a tolerance of excessive force; more police interactions involve African Americans than other races; the reason African Americans are involved with police actions is not because they are targeted per se but because they call the police far more often and are far more often involved with crime (perp and victim); Is this an actual fact? 3

people of color have legitimate historical burdens and complaints, having been brought to America as slaves; True 4

there is almost no way to wipe those burdens away outside of a long, slow path to success; How many years does it take? 5

capitalism helps people become successful, socialism stunts them; Potentially agree....of course the definition matter. 6

Democrats feast on racial discord; this newest surge of violence and discord is being fomented by Democratic politicians and their media cousins; Not worthy of response 7

Democrats will overreach as they always do, repelling normal Americans including African Americans who are indeed successful and enjoy peace viua law and order.

The author you quote happens to be a 19 y.o. Canadian....

1. We all have been in situations (I certainly have) when as a white person we are the minority in a room of non-white people. Too many times to relay; but I also don't think about it for the most part, even when it occurs.

2. And likely will for more centuries because at its root the issue is not easily defined nor 'solved'

3. Yes: https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck ... mmit-crime

4. OK

5. I don't know...but it is incumbent upon all of us to offer hands to anyone who could use a hand

6. ok

7. ok

[jhu72]

White privilege is a hoax, folks.

Get back to work. Protect your family. Go to church. Stay fit. Don’t compromise with lefties.

Thanks.

Says the privileged white guy.

Then listen to this non-white guy who feels the same way:

https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/the-falla ... g-society/

“White privilege doesn’t mean your life hasn’t been hard. It just means your race isn’t one of the things that make it harder.”

So we can agree on the above?

In the abstract, I agree that (presuming I have been around people of my same race most but all of my life) my color has likely not been a part of any thought by me or others around me, except the times when it has.

But more cogently, your question implies consent to a narrative which doesn't exist, nor does it account for the vast complexity of life. Do we know, for example, that reverse discrimination does not exist and if it does, what of the person who has been impacted there, does his life not count?

We would need to deliberate for decades to understand relative benefits and hurdles of race; there simply is not enough time from either of us to arrive at any conclusion that would satisfy.

My call on this whole nonsense is: some but not all police have built up a tolerance of excessive force; more police interactions involve African Americans than other races; the reason African Americans are involved with police actions is not because they are targeted per se but because they call the police far more often and are far more often involved with crime (perp and victim); people of color have legitimate historical burdens and complaints, having been brought to America as slaves; there is almost no way to wipe those burdens away outside of a long, slow path to success; capitalism helps people become successful, socialism stunts them; Democrats feast on racial discord; this newest surge of violence and discord is being fomented by Democratic politicians and their media cousins; Democrats will overreach as they always do, repelling normal Americans including African Americans who are indeed successful and enjoy peace viua law and order.

… really?? African Americans "call the police far more often"

Show us some data to back this statement up. African Americans have an aversion to police interaction of all types, and you are telling us they "call police far more often".

… far more often than what, Martians?