Re: The Mueller Report and Impeachment
Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 5:12 pm
Slick Willie, Hillary, yes, we should instantly divert attention away from the issue at hand.
Same Party, Different House
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Sorry MD... I can't read the report. 72 already declared I am too stupid to understand it anyway. Read it again for me and report back. All I can think about was all those years in Catholic schools and everybody bragging about how many times they read the bible. I read it twice from cover to cover and never had any earth shaking revelations from that book either. If the bible never did it for me I doubt anything Mueller has written will do it either. Hey if Muellers words were a mover and shaker for you... then good for you. I have more important things to deal with at present.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 4:32 pmcradle, again, if you're gonna comment, you're gonna need to deal with the reaction.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 4:05 pmI did not say that MD... sometimes you need to stop thinking like a Republican. If someone came up to you and offered you a million dollars for your life story I am sure you would say I have not lived my life for the money... go away. What I have said was when the time is right, someone is going to offer Mueller an awful lot of money to tell his side of the story. Where ever you got the notion that I was implying he was in it for the money is not correct. Let me clarify what I am saying. Robert Mueller has a story to tell. There are a boatload of people that want to hear his story. There are a boatload of people willing to pay him big money to tell his story. When the time is right in his mind he may take them up on the offer. He may just as well want to tell DC to go to hell and live the rest of his life in peace far away from the DC stupidity. Does that clarify it enough for you? some of you folks out there will overthink every damn thing.
You bring up the notion of a tell-all book and lots of money in a post. Then keep repeating that prediction. If you don't think you were implying money as a motivation, you need to read what you write before hitting 'submit'.
You imply it again above, 'big money', 'million dollars', etc. You do realize he could easily make a million + bucks a year in private practice and instead chose to take on the low paid gig in which he gets peed on by all sorts of scum?
Mueller can tell whatever story he wants without accepting a nickel to do so. He has all sorts of ways to tell that story, including in front of Congress.
Instead he says to read the Report.
He says he wrote it very carefully. He wants it read.
So, go read the Report.
Stop being lazy and making predictions that demean the man and his work.
Read the Report.
Or if you can't handle that many pages, just read all of Justin Amash's tweets.
Pretty darn good summary by a guy who Did bother to read it.
hey cradle, I think ggait said it well; you seem to have lots of time to comment.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 7:35 pmSorry MD... I can't read the report. 72 already declared I am too stupid to understand it anyway. Read it again for me and report back. All I can think about was all those years in Catholic schools and everybody bragging about how many times they read the bible. I read it twice from cover to cover and never had any earth shaking revelations from that book either. If the bible never did it for me I doubt anything Mueller has written will do it either. Hey if Muellers words were a mover and shaker for you... then good for you. I have more important things to deal with at present.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 4:32 pmcradle, again, if you're gonna comment, you're gonna need to deal with the reaction.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 4:05 pmI did not say that MD... sometimes you need to stop thinking like a Republican. If someone came up to you and offered you a million dollars for your life story I am sure you would say I have not lived my life for the money... go away. What I have said was when the time is right, someone is going to offer Mueller an awful lot of money to tell his side of the story. Where ever you got the notion that I was implying he was in it for the money is not correct. Let me clarify what I am saying. Robert Mueller has a story to tell. There are a boatload of people that want to hear his story. There are a boatload of people willing to pay him big money to tell his story. When the time is right in his mind he may take them up on the offer. He may just as well want to tell DC to go to hell and live the rest of his life in peace far away from the DC stupidity. Does that clarify it enough for you? some of you folks out there will overthink every damn thing.
You bring up the notion of a tell-all book and lots of money in a post. Then keep repeating that prediction. If you don't think you were implying money as a motivation, you need to read what you write before hitting 'submit'.
You imply it again above, 'big money', 'million dollars', etc. You do realize he could easily make a million + bucks a year in private practice and instead chose to take on the low paid gig in which he gets peed on by all sorts of scum?
Mueller can tell whatever story he wants without accepting a nickel to do so. He has all sorts of ways to tell that story, including in front of Congress.
Instead he says to read the Report.
He says he wrote it very carefully. He wants it read.
So, go read the Report.
Stop being lazy and making predictions that demean the man and his work.
Read the Report.
Or if you can't handle that many pages, just read all of Justin Amash's tweets.
Pretty darn good summary by a guy who Did bother to read it.
To your point.LandM wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 5:33 pm MD and Diss
Have you guys ever invested in a Series A or private placement? The first 5 pages tell you how stupid you are cause your gonna lose all your money. I am not eating hot dogs. No one in the world who read it would invest. It is a CYA wording in case you lose all your money written by a bunch of lawyers. I sat in a BOD meeting today. Nice book. I read the prior notes, executive overview and the B/S. The other 250 pages were a waste of a tree and copy machine.
I say we start a drinking game down here:
1 chug for meatheads and
2 chugs for deplorable.
I spent 4 days traveling from CO back to NY lots of stops. 70% of this country wants to move on. IMHO we have allot of issues in this country that need attention.
Valuable lesson that I am thankful I learned early, "you wanna be right or you wanna be happy". If your not happy plug the nose![]()
I like to tweak your lesson - you can't always have fun, but you can find ways to be happy.LandM wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 5:33 pm MD and Diss
Have you guys ever invested in a Series A or private placement? The first 5 pages tell you how stupid you are cause your gonna lose all your money. I am not eating hot dogs. No one in the world who read it would invest. It is a CYA wording in case you lose all your money written by a bunch of lawyers. I sat in a BOD meeting today. Nice book. I read the prior notes, executive overview and the B/S. The other 250 pages were a waste of a tree and copy machine.
I say we start a drinking game down here:
1 chug for meatheads and
2 chugs for deplorable.
I spent 4 days traveling from CO back to NY lots of stops. 70% of this country wants to move on. IMHO we have allot of issues in this country that need attention.
Valuable lesson that I am thankful I learned early, "you wanna be right or you wanna be happy". If your not happy plug the nose![]()
Amash would make a great Mueller to meathead translator.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 4:32 pmcradle, again, if you're gonna comment, you're gonna need to deal with the reaction.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 4:05 pmI did not say that MD... sometimes you need to stop thinking like a Republican. If someone came up to you and offered you a million dollars for your life story I am sure you would say I have not lived my life for the money... go away. What I have said was when the time is right, someone is going to offer Mueller an awful lot of money to tell his side of the story. Where ever you got the notion that I was implying he was in it for the money is not correct. Let me clarify what I am saying. Robert Mueller has a story to tell. There are a boatload of people that want to hear his story. There are a boatload of people willing to pay him big money to tell his story. When the time is right in his mind he may take them up on the offer. He may just as well want to tell DC to go to hell and live the rest of his life in peace far away from the DC stupidity. Does that clarify it enough for you? some of you folks out there will overthink every damn thing.
You bring up the notion of a tell-all book and lots of money in a post. Then keep repeating that prediction. If you don't think you were implying money as a motivation, you need to read what you write before hitting 'submit'.
You imply it again above, 'big money', 'million dollars', etc. You do realize he could easily make a million + bucks a year in private practice and instead chose to take on the low paid gig in which he gets peed on by all sorts of scum?
Mueller can tell whatever story he wants without accepting a nickel to do so. He has all sorts of ways to tell that story, including in front of Congress.
Instead he says to read the Report.
He says he wrote it very carefully. He wants it read.
So, go read the Report.
Stop being lazy and making predictions that demean the man and his work.
Read the Report.
Or if you can't handle that many pages, just read all of Justin Amash's tweets.
Pretty darn good summary by a guy who Did bother to read it.
This I think was the real issue Mueller had to get off his chest. I think he was truly amazed that the democracy was stumbling, perhaps ultimately falling over an unwillingness of the population to do the work.ggait wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 3:51 pmTotally. It is all there is black and white in plain view. But unless it can get bounced around in 140 characters, it pretty much doesn't exist.I agree, most people, and Congress, appear to have NOT read the report, and are relying on media for their instructions.
TLDR of Mueller's statement (and also any testimony he gives): "Um, could you just read my freaking report!!!"
Agreed. Independent of House action on impeachment. House action on impeachment can however bring down the senate (small "s" as long as these cowards and some outright traitors to the constitution are seated).dislaxxic wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 4:49 pmSorta like how the R's sought to overturn an election because of perjury regarding a sex act?old salt wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 4:35 pmIf there had been evidence of a conspiracy between Trump & Russia, at least the necessary 20 (R)'s in the Senate would vote to convict.
They're not going to overturn an election, based on obstruction of an investigation into a non-crime, in which no solid evidence of obvious obstructive conduct like bribery, witness tampering, destroying evidence or suborning perjury was found. Especially in light of the volume of documents & witnesses provided.
The unfounded Russian conspiracy charges have been used for 3 years in attempts to prevent, then undermine the Trump Presidency,
There's no way (R) Senators are going to validate that, & (D) leaders recognize it for the political disaster it will be if the try.
This set of circumstances is SO much more egregious than that, and i buy the argument that if the Dems wimp out on an impeachment inquiry, with ALL that entails, would be an open invitation to ANY tin-pot dictator-lite coming down the American Political Pike to just throw up a middle finger to any effort to hold the chief executive accountable for treacherous, un-American behavior like this. OS makes this specious argument knowing full well that the full extent ot Don's depredations have not yet come to light. There is very little doubt that he has laundered Russian money and committed fraud with tax and financial matters in the recent past, along with a fairly lengthy list of other impeachable offenses. "Unfounded" Russian conspiracy?? What a sad, utterly laughable opinion. The Fox News Wet Dream.
An impeachment Inquiry will lay this all out in clear detail for Americans to make a decision prior to the 2020 election. The McConnell Senate is also a treacherous, un-American body as it is currently constituted and led by this snake with the turkey wattle. It is lost, at least until 2020.
All this said, i feel like the 2020 election will almost certainly take this stain from before our eyes...
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ggait wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:57 pm Cradle -- you post a lot of verbiage on this board that we all read. The quality and quantity of your writing on these boards demonstrates beyond any doubt that you have way more than the minimum reading skills, writing skills and time to read the Mueller Report. You certainly could, at a minimum, read the executive summaries of the Mueller Report.
If you choose not to read the report, that's your choice. But I would commend it to you. A straight shooting, non-partisan American public servant (and also a USMC vet) took a 95% pay cut and two years of his life to write that report. He did a straight shooting, honest job and public service doing that. Regardless of party affiliation, I think citizens need to read it.
But if you don't, I'm scratching my head how you can be commenting on the report. Willful blindness isn't a good basis for opinion or belief.
God bless.
Careful you don't fall off your pedestal with such a huge headful of formal education. It makes you top heavy.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 9:31 amggait wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:57 pm Cradle -- you post a lot of verbiage on this board that we all read. The quality and quantity of your writing on these boards demonstrates beyond any doubt that you have way more than the minimum reading skills, writing skills and time to read the Mueller Report. You certainly could, at a minimum, read the executive summaries of the Mueller Report.
If you choose not to read the report, that's your choice. But I would commend it to you. A straight shooting, non-partisan American public servant (and also a USMC vet) took a 95% pay cut and two years of his life to write that report. He did a straight shooting, honest job and public service doing that. Regardless of party affiliation, I think citizens need to read it.
But if you don't, I'm scratching my head how you can be commenting on the report. Willful blindness isn't a good basis for opinion or belief.
God bless.
+1 Meatheadedness is not necessarily a function of inability or lack of skills of an individual. It is as likely to be willful, a self inflicted wound frequently found among those who disdain formal education.
Another meathead.6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 9:34 amCareful you don't fall off your pedestal with such a huge headful of formal education. It makes you top heavy.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 9:31 amggait wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:57 pm Cradle -- you post a lot of verbiage on this board that we all read. The quality and quantity of your writing on these boards demonstrates beyond any doubt that you have way more than the minimum reading skills, writing skills and time to read the Mueller Report. You certainly could, at a minimum, read the executive summaries of the Mueller Report.
If you choose not to read the report, that's your choice. But I would commend it to you. A straight shooting, non-partisan American public servant (and also a USMC vet) took a 95% pay cut and two years of his life to write that report. He did a straight shooting, honest job and public service doing that. Regardless of party affiliation, I think citizens need to read it.
But if you don't, I'm scratching my head how you can be commenting on the report. Willful blindness isn't a good basis for opinion or belief.
God bless.
+1 Meatheadedness is not necessarily a function of inability or lack of skills of an individual. It is as likely to be willful, a self inflicted wound frequently found among those who disdain formal education.
jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 9:37 amAnother meathead.6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 9:34 amCareful you don't fall off your pedestal with such a huge headful of formal education. It makes you top heavy.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 9:31 amggait wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:57 pm Cradle -- you post a lot of verbiage on this board that we all read. The quality and quantity of your writing on these boards demonstrates beyond any doubt that you have way more than the minimum reading skills, writing skills and time to read the Mueller Report. You certainly could, at a minimum, read the executive summaries of the Mueller Report.
If you choose not to read the report, that's your choice. But I would commend it to you. A straight shooting, non-partisan American public servant (and also a USMC vet) took a 95% pay cut and two years of his life to write that report. He did a straight shooting, honest job and public service doing that. Regardless of party affiliation, I think citizens need to read it.
But if you don't, I'm scratching my head how you can be commenting on the report. Willful blindness isn't a good basis for opinion or belief.
God bless.
+1 Meatheadedness is not necessarily a function of inability or lack of skills of an individual. It is as likely to be willful, a self inflicted wound frequently found among those who disdain formal education.Perfect example of willful stupidity.