Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:23 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:05 am
No, re Kav, some of the issues were never "disproven"; and Ford presented herself and her story publicly.
I am way more passionate about the Kav bs than I am Epstein...Epstein to me is a sideshow. I don't know Kav; but here is a relevant fact: I know the Evans family. That's Dave Evans of Duke, and Landon.
Anyone who knows Dave knew immediately that the Duke case was beyond nonsensical.
I've written previously here that civil liberties are my number one passion. Anyone getting wrecked by innuendo and possibly facing 20 years+ for a crime they did not commit, deserves more than a passing
hail-well-met when you see him. Dave has (fortunately) recovered nicely in life.
As you may or may not know, David lived in a town not far from Kavanaugh. Many of the folks in this area know each other. Many of the folks in this area say the same things about Kav as they did about Dave. ie: not even a possibility he did it.
Here is the money shot piece of that article that you should think hard about:
If Kavanaugh is not safe from reputation- and career-destroying smears, no one is. Not you. Not your husband. Not your son, father, or brother. If they can destroy Kavanaugh, they can do it to anyone you love and trust, regardless of any mountains of facts or evidence to the contrary.
And yes, every single allegation against Kav has been disproven. You could buy a book to understand this if you are so inclined:
https://www.amazon.com/Justice-Trial-Ka ... 1621579832. This book is a national bestseller.
Not a bestseller? A book written by 2 NYT writers which immediately was discredited.
Sounds like your passion is about the Evans family, a righteous passion. And because folks live near one another, you assume they have the same character?
Listen, you continuously promote all sorts of allegations about folks without facts, turn around and claim a puritanical view of METOO, then dismiss women who come forward...because you know people who live in a town near them???
Yes, we need to be darn careful about the potential for a false story to smear someone's reputation...just be careful all the time, not so selectively, please.
And please stop with this notion that the stories about Kav were entirely disproven...it's just not true.
Maybe Kav just can't admit to the truth of his behaviors back when he was young and drunk, yet perhaps accurate that he never actually raped anyone...maybe. But he chose to not tell the whole truth about his past.
On the Duke boys, I don't recall which kids were at the party with the stripper and which weren't, but hey, really, really dumb, misogynistic behavior...I'd sure tell my kid to avoid such situations, indeed step up and shut down such situations.
But I can't pretend that when we were young and dumb and drinking we didn't do stupid things like this, go down to the Block for a laugh, etc..happens. As I said, the adolescent brain isn't fully developed, literally doesn't light up when making executive function decisions the way an adult brain does. I cut youngsters some slack on being young and making dumb choices. I don't go so far as to excuse rape, though.
EDIT: I clicked through to see more about the book and the "two NYT writers". Had to chuckle when I saw how they are described on Amazon and some of the "reviews"...
“The authors’ deep knowledge of the players and the constitutional stakes shines throughout the book and makes for a thrilling and revealing read.” -- EDWIN MEESE III, 75th U.S. Attorney General
"[A] brand new smash book with enormous amounts of actual real reporting, interviews, behind-the-scenes fact-digging and analysis… You won’t get it anywhere else unless you get this book.” -- Laura Ingraham, Fox News
About the Author
MOLLIE HEMINGWAY, a senior editor at The Federalist and a contributor to Fox News, is one of the country’s most thoughtful, prescient, and respected political commentators.
CARRIE SEVERINO is chief counsel and policy director of the Judicial Crisis Network. A graduate of Harvard Law School, she clerked for Justice Clarence Thomas on the U.S. Supreme Court.
Here's an interesting 'counter-review':
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/ ... press.html
Here's author Mollie Hemingway discussing Confederate statues...
https://www.mediamatters.org/diversity- ... -it-starts) and see if she is anything other than honest.
This must be the fiction thread.