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Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:08 am
by DMac
No, no, and no on the proposed changes. The inconsistency in officiating would have a girl out for half a game, and maybe the next one, by one crew and get maybe one yellow by the next crew. On top of that, would you really want to see a team play with one or two fewer players on the field for half the game or more? As Justalaxdad said, enter flopping as an even bigger part of the game than it is, the WWE wrestlers would be taking lessons from the wlaxers in no time. Things are fine the way they are, just enforce the rules and be consistent with it.

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:28 am
by watcherinthewoods
I won't pay for Big10, so did not see NW vs. SBU ... anyone care to give some analysis?

From the stats it seems like a slug-fest (no surprise) and NW just used speed of play/ball movement to beat the SBU zone. SBU +6 on TOs, the NW goalie had a good night, and Masera needs a supporting cast in the attacking end. Am I close?

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:00 am
by Bart
watcherinthewoods wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:28 am I won't pay for Big10, so did not see NW vs. SBU ... anyone care to give some analysis?

From the stats it seems like a slug-fest (no surprise) and NW just used speed of play/ball movement to beat the SBU zone. SBU +6 on TOs, the NW goalie had a good night, and Masera needs a supporting cast in the attacking end. Am I close?
That seems to cover it from my recollection. Physical.

What you said about Masera could be said about Scane but NW may have more depth there.

Both these teams will be a rough out at the end if they stay healthy.

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:09 am
by Justalaxdad
Bart wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:00 am
watcherinthewoods wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:28 am I won't pay for Big10, so did not see NW vs. SBU ... anyone care to give some analysis?

From the stats it seems like a slug-fest (no surprise) and NW just used speed of play/ball movement to beat the SBU zone. SBU +6 on TOs, the NW goalie had a good night, and Masera needs a supporting cast in the attacking end. Am I close?
That seems to cover it from my recollection. Physical.

What you said about Masera could be said about Scane but NW may have more depth there.

Both these teams will be a rough out at the end if they stay healthy.
May have? NW has 5 times the scoring support for Scane than SB has for Masera. Masera had a few goals last night that were spectacular and at 5’3”, what a fun player to watch. Can you imagine her on a team like UNC or BC or NW???

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:15 am
by Madlax59
Bart wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:00 am
watcherinthewoods wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:28 am I won't pay for Big10, so did not see NW vs. SBU ... anyone care to give some analysis?

From the stats it seems like a slug-fest (no surprise) and NW just used speed of play/ball movement to beat the SBU zone. SBU +6 on TOs, the NW goalie had a good night, and Masera needs a supporting cast in the attacking end. Am I close?
That seems to cover it from my recollection. Physical.

What you said about Masera could be said about Scane but NW may have more depth there.

Both these teams will be a rough out at the end if they stay healthy.
Masera could be easier to contain than Scane. Either push her to her left or send the slide quicker. Defending her toe to toe isn't the way.

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:54 am
by Bart
Justalaxdad wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:09 am
Bart wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:00 am
watcherinthewoods wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:28 am I won't pay for Big10, so did not see NW vs. SBU ... anyone care to give some analysis?

From the stats it seems like a slug-fest (no surprise) and NW just used speed of play/ball movement to beat the SBU zone. SBU +6 on TOs, the NW goalie had a good night, and Masera needs a supporting cast in the attacking end. Am I close?
That seems to cover it from my recollection. Physical.

What you said about Masera could be said about Scane but NW may have more depth there.

Both these teams will be a rough out at the end if they stay healthy.
May have? NW has 5 times the scoring support for Scane than SB has for Masera. Masera had a few goals last night that were spectacular and at 5’3”, what a fun player to watch. Can you imagine her on a team like UNC or BC or NW???
OK. You are probably right. But I still wouldn't want to rely on one player scoring 60% of my goals in a game.

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:40 am
by Justalaxdad
Bart wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:54 am
Justalaxdad wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:09 am
Bart wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:00 am
watcherinthewoods wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:28 am I won't pay for Big10, so did not see NW vs. SBU ... anyone care to give some analysis?

From the stats it seems like a slug-fest (no surprise) and NW just used speed of play/ball movement to beat the SBU zone. SBU +6 on TOs, the NW goalie had a good night, and Masera needs a supporting cast in the attacking end. Am I close?
That seems to cover it from my recollection. Physical.

What you said about Masera could be said about Scane but NW may have more depth there.

Both these teams will be a rough out at the end if they stay healthy.
May have? NW has 5 times the scoring support for Scane than SB has for Masera. Masera had a few goals last night that were spectacular and at 5’3”, what a fun player to watch. Can you imagine her on a team like UNC or BC or NW???
OK. You are probably right. But I still wouldn't want to rely on one player scoring 60% of my goals in a game.
I see what you’re saying. I think when you have scorers like Scane, that tends to happen (scoring %). With NU though, I feel like it’s more of, hey if you can’t stop her…

I don’t feel like the others can’t score. We will find out for sure when they play someone who can slow Scane down (if that’s possible) - how the others step up will be telling.

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:59 am
by watcherinthewoods
Bart wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:54 am
Justalaxdad wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:09 am
Bart wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:00 am
watcherinthewoods wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:28 am I won't pay for Big10, so did not see NW vs. SBU ... anyone care to give some analysis?

From the stats it seems like a slug-fest (no surprise) and NW just used speed of play/ball movement to beat the SBU zone. SBU +6 on TOs, the NW goalie had a good night, and Masera needs a supporting cast in the attacking end. Am I close?
That seems to cover it from my recollection. Physical.

What you said about Masera could be said about Scane but NW may have more depth there.

Both these teams will be a rough out at the end if they stay healthy.
May have? NW has 5 times the scoring support for Scane than SB has for Masera. Masera had a few goals last night that were spectacular and at 5’3”, what a fun player to watch. Can you imagine her on a team like UNC or BC or NW???
OK. You are probably right. But I still wouldn't want to rely on one player scoring 60% of my goals in a game.
The key difference to me is that NW had 10 of 13 goals assisted vs. 1 of 8 for SBU. Doesn't matter who is finishing when you have an attack that can score off the cut like that.

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:31 am
by Fischer
Apples and oranges. Nw goals were mostly assisted. Scored by scane or not. Masera was a one woman show and it exposed the lack of depth against a good team. Lots of flops. Lots of overly aggressive play. Masera got away with one towards the end of the game. The turnovers were plenty
Second half there were more bodies on the ground than in any game I’ve watched. Stony brook will have their hands full with any decent team

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:32 am
by Fischer
And on a side note. There was a freshman on sbu that got hurt. Looked bad. Maybe acl? Hoping she’s ok

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:52 am
by Bart
watcherinthewoods wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:59 am
Bart wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:54 am
Justalaxdad wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:09 am
Bart wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:00 am
watcherinthewoods wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:28 am I won't pay for Big10, so did not see NW vs. SBU ... anyone care to give some analysis?

From the stats it seems like a slug-fest (no surprise) and NW just used speed of play/ball movement to beat the SBU zone. SBU +6 on TOs, the NW goalie had a good night, and Masera needs a supporting cast in the attacking end. Am I close?
That seems to cover it from my recollection. Physical.

What you said about Masera could be said about Scane but NW may have more depth there.

Both these teams will be a rough out at the end if they stay healthy.
May have? NW has 5 times the scoring support for Scane than SB has for Masera. Masera had a few goals last night that were spectacular and at 5’3”, what a fun player to watch. Can you imagine her on a team like UNC or BC or NW???
OK. You are probably right. But I still wouldn't want to rely on one player scoring 60% of my goals in a game.
The key difference to me is that NW had 10 of 13 goals assisted vs. 1 of 8 for SBU. Doesn't matter who is finishing when you have an attack that can score off the cut like that.
Fair point. 6 out of those 10 assists still went to 1 player.

Bottom line, NW played better and deserved the win.

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:10 am
by njbill
Last night’s (and the YTD) performance by Scane makes you think about how good the Northwestern team would have been last year had she not gotten injured. Would they have won the national title? Hard to argue against that.

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:23 am
by wlaxphan20
Louisville up 4-1 on BC with a few left in the first..

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:28 am
by DMac
njbill wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:10 am Last night’s (and the YTD) performance by Scane makes you think about how good the Northwestern team would have been last year had she not gotten injured. Would they have won the national title? Hard to argue against that.
Well, a decent argument would be that UNC was an absolute powerhouse who had lost only one game in two years. I would've picked UNC to win it all, Scane playing for NU or not. Ms. Scane, meet Ms. Nalls...oh, and good luck. We'll never know.

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:34 am
by njbill
DMac wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:28 am
njbill wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:10 am Last night’s (and the YTD) performance by Scane makes you think about how good the Northwestern team would have been last year had she not gotten injured. Would they have won the national title? Hard to argue against that.
Well, a decent argument would be that UNC was an absolute powerhouse who had lost only one game in two years. I would've picked UNC to win it all, Scane playing for NU or not. Ms. Scane, meet Ms. Nalls...oh, and good luck. We'll never know.
Given the big lead NU had over UNC in the semifinal game, it’s hard to believe they wouldn’t have won that game with Scane.

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:51 am
by Bart
njbill wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:34 am
DMac wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:28 am
njbill wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:10 am Last night’s (and the YTD) performance by Scane makes you think about how good the Northwestern team would have been last year had she not gotten injured. Would they have won the national title? Hard to argue against that.
Well, a decent argument would be that UNC was an absolute powerhouse who had lost only one game in two years. I would've picked UNC to win it all, Scane playing for NU or not. Ms. Scane, meet Ms. Nalls...oh, and good luck. We'll never know.
Given the big lead NU had over UNC in the semifinal game, it’s hard to believe they wouldn’t have won that game with Scane.
That’s assuming that everything leading up to and including the big lead would’ve been exactly the same with Ms Scane on the field. You can not be certain of that. Add a player, subtract a player it all changes the dynamic.

That certainly would’ve been a game to watch.

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:09 pm
by njbill
That’s right. The lead probably would’ve been bigger. :lol:

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:09 pm
by DMac
M. Tyrell 1, ND 0. Lot of work for Cuse to score though.
Sweitzer throws some flat out scary outlet passes. Had to be 60+ yards...on the money but scary...just threw another one, not so smooth this time.
ND up 2-0 on draws.

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:11 pm
by DMac
Wow, fantastic btb pass from Sweitzer (the other one) to Adamson for the goal.
2-0
3 for 3 on the draws for ND now.

Re: Live Game Action

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:12 pm
by ultravisitor
Justalaxdad wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:40 am I think when you have scorers like Scane, that tends to happen (scoring %). With NU though, I feel like it’s more of, hey if you can’t stop her…

I don’t feel like the others can’t score. We will find out for sure when they play someone who can slow Scane down (if that’s possible) - how the others step up will be telling.
Isn't slowing Scane down exactly what BC tried to do? They put a faceguard on her and kept her pretty quiet for the first half. The problem? The increased attention BC put on Scane allowed for Dylan Amonte to score 5 goals, which, I'm guessing, was predicted by no one.

Aside from Amonte, NU also has Madison Taylor, who put 5 goals on Syracuse in her first ever collegiate game, and Hailey Rhatigan, who has 300+ career points.

Even when Scane wasn't on the field because she was sidelined due to a penalty, this was happening on a very talented SB defense:

https://twitter.com/NULax/status/163436 ... 90274?s=20

It's a bit of a pick your poison situation with NU's offense. They've got some threats that I think get slept on because Izzy Scane just towers over the rest.

NU's defense did pretty well last night, too.