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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:29 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:12 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:11 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:08 am Quite a remarkable recap. Folks here will say “they all do it”.
Because it is easy and lazy to say that. Discernment is hard; I'd rather just get lunch.....
Doesn’t start until 11 but yeah at 10:12 it’s on my mind
“One afternoon around 11:00” let me know that lunchtime is fluid….
I’m definitely on a kiddie meal schedule.
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Brooklyn wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:17 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:11 am
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:51 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:26 am
Of course there’s little different in the CPAC/MaGA approach to politics and Brooklyns


Yeah like I've been telling everybody out there that the election was stolen. :lol:
Is that all politics is??? Or a way of framing the conversation to your benefit that ignores a lot of other data points and lack of interest in all facts and theory? Like the MAGA folks?

So now I'm a MAGAt. That sure is novel. :lol:
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:51 am

Circles complete themselves


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:mrgreen:
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Brooklyn wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:16 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:51 am

Circles complete themselves


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:mrgreen:
https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/p ... -for-kids/
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:08 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:16 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:51 am

Circles complete themselves

https://cache.lovethispic.com/uploaded_ ... e-One-.jpg


:mrgreen:
https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/p ... -for-kids/


Q: Why are balloons so expensive?
A: Inflation.


Ha!
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Brooklyn wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:56 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:08 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:16 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:51 am

Circles complete themselves

https://cache.lovethispic.com/uploaded_ ... e-One-.jpg


:mrgreen:
https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/p ... -for-kids/


Q: Why are balloons so expensive?
A: Inflation.


Ha!
When going the dad joke route one needs to a heat check, volume shooter.
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I'm not for "banning" access by individuals to whatever alternative news service they wish to access on their personal devices, but I do think blocking the Fox feed on TV screens in barracks, mess halls, etc is a valid 'ask' given the now known factual proof that the FOX personalities knew they were lying and yet did it anyway...they can be expected to do so tomorrow and the next day after. There appears to be no remorse, other than being caught in the lies.

I'm ok with the counter argument that MSNBC is skewed hard as well, but unless we know for a fact, as we do with Fox now, that their anchors purposefully and knowingly lie to their audience, it's a leap to put them in the same box...that said, I'd be ok to limiting the news feeds in those public areas to standard ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and PBS.

That means no OAN, NEWSMAX, etc, as they are even more blatantly lying to their audiences than Fox (though we don't have the same evidence that they knew they were lying as they did so...they may simply be crazy, though I think they knew...and know).

Again, individuals can access what they want on their own devices.

Let's just not give these sources the credibility of US military endorsement.
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Just a regular media company trying to get people the news and information they need:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/20/busi ... sberg.html

"A Fox News producer who has worked with the hosts Maria Bartiromo and Tucker Carlson filed lawsuits against the company in New York and Delaware on Monday, accusing Fox lawyers of coercing her into giving misleading testimony in the continuing legal battle around the network’s coverage of unfounded claims about election fraud.

The producer, Abby Grossberg, said Fox lawyers had tried to position her and Ms. Bartiromo to take the blame for Fox’s repeated airing of conspiracy theories about Dominion Voting Systems and its supposed role in manipulating the results of the 2020 presidential election. Dominion has filed a $1.6 billion defamation suit against Fox. Ms. Grossberg said the effort to place blame on her and Ms. Bartiromo was rooted in rampant misogyny and discrimination at the network.

The new lawsuits, coupled with revelations from the Dominion legal fight, shed light on the rivalries and turf battles that raged at Fox News in the wake of the 2020 election, as network executives fought to hold on to viewers furious at the top-rated network for accurately reporting on President Donald J. Trump’s defeat in Arizona, a crucial swing state.

The lawsuits also include details about Ms. Grossberg’s work life at Fox and on Mr. Carlson’s show. Ms. Grossberg says she and other women endured frank and open sexism from co-workers and superiors at the network, which has been dogged for years by lawsuits and allegations about sexual harassment by Fox executives and stars.

The network’s disregard for women, Ms. Grossberg alleged, left her and Ms. Bartiromo understaffed — stretched too thin to properly vet the truthfulness of claims made against Dominion on the air. At times, Ms. Grossberg said, she was the only full-time employee dedicated solely to Ms. Bartiromo’s Sunday-morning show.

In her complaints, Ms. Grossberg accuses lawyers for Fox News of coaching her in “a coercive and intimidating manner” before her September deposition in the Dominion case. The lawyers, she said, gave her the impression that she had to avoid mentioning prominent male executives and on-air talent to protect them from any blame, while putting her own reputation at risk.

“That’s what the culture is there,” Ms. Grossberg said in an interview on Monday evening. “They don’t respect or value women.”

On Monday afternoon, Fox filed its own suit against Ms. Grossberg, seeking to enjoin her from filing claims that would shed light on her discussions with the company’s lawyers. A judge has not yet ruled on Fox’s suit. Later on Monday, according to her lawyer, Parisis G. Filippatos, Fox also placed Ms. Grossberg on forced administrative leave.

Ms. Grossberg’s lawsuits were filed in the Southern District of New York and in Superior Court in Delaware, where a pretrial hearing in the Dominion defamation lawsuit is scheduled for Tuesday.

In a statement, a Fox spokeswoman said: “Fox News Media engaged an independent outside counsel to immediately investigate the concerns raised by Ms. Grossberg, which were made following a critical performance review. We will vigorously defend these claims.”

According to the lawsuits filed by Ms. Grossberg, Fox superiors called Ms. Bartiromo a “crazy complain” who was “menopausal” and asked Ms. Grossberg to cut the host out of coverage discussions.

Last year, she began working as a senior booking producer at “Tucker Carlson Tonight.” On her first full day, according to the lawsuit, Ms. Grossberg discovered that the show’s Manhattan work space was decorated with large pictures of Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, then the House speaker, wearing a plunging swimsuit.

The next day, Justin Wells, Mr. Carlson’s top producer, called Ms. Grossberg into his office, she said, to ask whether Ms. Bartiromo was having a sexual relationship with the House Republican leader, Kevin McCarthy.

Mr. Carlson’s staff joked about Jews and freely deployed a vulgar term for women, according to the complaint.

Later that fall, it said, before an appearance on the show by Tudor Dixon, the Republican candidate for Michigan governor, Mr. Carlson’s staff held a mock debate about whether they would prefer to have sex with Ms. Dixon or her Democratic opponent, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

After Ms. Grossberg complained about harassment from two male producers on the show, she was pulled into a meeting with human resources and told that she was not performing her duties, according to the complaint.

Some text exchanges between Ms. Grossberg and Ms. Bartiromo were released as part of court filings in the Dominion lawsuit. In one instance, Ms. Bartiromo asked Ms. Grossberg if she should have pushed Mr. Trump in an interview on whether he would peacefully transition from the presidency. Ms. Grossberg replied: “To be honest, our audience doesn’t want to hear about a peaceful transition.”

During her deposition, Ms. Grossberg was asked if she cared whether claims made on Ms. Bartiromo’s show were true or false. According to the transcript, Ms. Grossberg answered: “No. Because we didn’t know if they were true or false at that time.” When asked if she felt it was important to correct a false claim made on the air, Ms. Grossberg answered: “No.”

In her lawsuits, Ms. Grossberg said she would have answered those questions differently but had been “coached by and intimidated by” Fox’s lawyers.

Ms. Grossberg claimed that Fox lawyers pressured her to downplay a text exchange between her and David Clark, then the senior vice president of weekend news, regarding a segment with Rudolph W. Giuliani, a lawyer for Mr. Trump. Mr. Clark texted: “There will be no ‘fact checking’ today.”

Ms. Grossberg said she had understood Mr. Clark to mean that Ms. Bartiromo was not to push back against Mr. Giuliani’s false claims of widespread election fraud. An updated version of the filing stated that Ms. Grossberg believed Mr. Clark to mean that no one, including him, would step in to fact check the show.

The Fox spokeswoman said Mr. Clark had been referring instead to a practice in which Fox shows sometimes criticized material that had aired elsewhere on the network."
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Fox’s attempt to prevent her from discussing attorney-client communications seems to me to have two problems. One, if she is the client, she is entitled to waive the privilege. Two, if she’s not the client, then any communications in her presence were not covered by the privilege.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:17 pm
I'm not for "banning" access by individuals to whatever alternative news service they wish to access on their personal devices, but I do think blocking the Fox feed on TV screens in barracks, mess halls, etc is a valid 'ask' given the now known factual proof that the FOX personalities knew they were lying and yet did it anyway...they can be expected to do so tomorrow and the next day after. There appears to be no remorse, other than being caught in the lies.

I'm ok with the counter argument that MSNBC is skewed hard as well, but unless we know for a fact, as we do with Fox now, that their anchors purposefully and knowingly lie to their audience, it's a leap to put them in the same box...that said, I'd be ok to limiting the news feeds in those public areas to standard ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and PBS.

That means no OAN, NEWSMAX, etc, as they are even more blatantly lying to their audiences than Fox (though we don't have the same evidence that they knew they were lying as they did so...they may simply be crazy, though I think they knew...and know).

Again, individuals can access what they want on their own devices.

Let's just not give these sources the credibility of US military endorsement.
what a bunch of junk........fear porn at it's finest.

ALL........we heard from YOUR legacy media.......is the exact same junk....you wacko's are accusing fox of doing.

Fear porn about stolen elections.

seriously....do you ALL not need a mental beat down, to re-read and re-watch all the "stolen election"...and "he IS not a legitimate POTUSA...".

almost laughable that a tweet on twatter gets seacoast all up IN arms.......bizarro worlld.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjnX4IUt_eo


Rep. Jamie Raskin..........stolen election narrative....

You guys really believe this junk you are spewing?

Have another fake Trump coctail improving fhizers profits and say nothing about the "vaccine" side effects.. Just sad.....
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Dudes..........CBS........runs this garbage show on Sunday mornings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQesfLIycJw

The leader of the Dems.......STILL calls this "illegitamate".

Howard Stern? idiots, unite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O5WNTW8Z1A
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njbill wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:33 am Fox’s attempt to prevent her from discussing attorney-client communications seems to me to have two problems. One, if she is the client, she is entitled to waive the privilege. Two, if she’s not the client, then any communications in her presence were not covered by the privilege.
Yup; it's a pickle for Fox for sure. Unless Fox's pitch is that Fox the entity is the client, and she is a representative of the client with the capacity to bind the corporation. If that were the case, I could see a scenario where Fox could gag her. But she is a producer of a show. She's miles away from the Board and the Officer corps.
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:19 pm
njbill wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:33 am Fox’s attempt to prevent her from discussing attorney-client communications seems to me to have two problems. One, if she is the client, she is entitled to waive the privilege. Two, if she’s not the client, then any communications in her presence were not covered by the privilege.
Yup; it's a pickle for Fox for sure. Unless Fox's pitch is that Fox the entity is the client, and she is a representative of the client with the capacity to bind the corporation. If that were the case, I could see a scenario where Fox could gag her. But she is a producer of a show. She's miles away from the Board and the Officer corps.
Yeah, I highly doubt she so qualified. Among other things, I’m sure this wasn’t a 30(b)(6) deposition.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the Fox lawyers told her they would represent her, individually, in the deposition, and she agreed. That sort of thing is very common. But then she, herself, would be the client and would be free to waive any privilege and discuss anything said by the lawyers. Sounds like the lawyers may have been sloppy or even unethical in what they told her. The fact that Fox is running to court strongly suggests they are very concerned about what she would say.

This is too much to hope for, but if this could help bring down Tucker, the country would be a far better place.
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Fox has dropped the lawsuit against Tucker’s producer. That didn’t last long.

https://www.thewrap.com/fox-news-drops- ... -producer/
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Introduction

There has been a lot of good news recently about the COVID-19 vaccine rollout in the United States. Millions of Americans are getting vaccinated each day, and recent research findings have demonstrated the long term-effectiveness of the vaccines.


the part in bold is a link. It takes you to a CNN infotainment piece.

THIS........is what they are using as "evidence"

Yeah......twitter files.

what...YOUR media ain't talking about this disgusting practice ? sick puppies

https://www.viralityproject.org/policy- ... or-control
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njbill wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:07 pm Fox has dropped the lawsuit against Tucker’s producer. That didn’t last long.

https://www.thewrap.com/fox-news-drops- ... -producer/
Interesting. Thanks for posting the article.
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:55 pm
njbill wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:07 pm Fox has dropped the lawsuit against Tucker’s producer. That didn’t last long.

https://www.thewrap.com/fox-news-drops- ... -producer/
Interesting. Thanks for posting the article.
Yep. I am sure all cable news networks operate that way.
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Follow up:

https://www.rawstory.com/fox-news-domin ... 659659206/

Former Fox News producer Abby Grossberg, who was fired by the network last week after she filed an explosive lawsuit against it, has offering new details about Fox News lawyers' efforts to coach her testimony in the Dominion Voting Systems defamation lawsuit.

NBC News reports that Grossberg's latest legal filing alleges she was subjected to "coercive and intimidating" pressure to deliver testimony that would be beneficial to the network in its legal fight against Dominion.

Among other things, Grossberg says that lawyers drafted her opening statement and wouldn't even let her review it before submitting it to the record, even though she requested to see it on six separate occasions.

She also alleges that Fox News' lawyers pressured her to repeatedly say she did not recall certain facts that she actually could recall, thus "fraudulently inducing her to deny facts she knew to exist."

“I felt that I had to do everything possible to avoid becoming the ‘star witness’ for Dominion or else I would be seriously jeopardizing my career at Fox News and would be subjected to worse terms and conditions of employment than male employees as I understood it," she said.

A Fox News spokesperson denied Grossberg's claims and defended the network's decision to fire her.

"Like most organizations, Fox News Media’s attorneys engage in privileged communications with our employees as necessary to provide legal advice," they said. "Last week, our attorneys advised Ms. Grossberg that, while she was free to file whatever legal claims she wished, she was in possession of our privileged information and was not authorized to disclose it publicly. We were clear that if she violated our instructions, Fox would take appropriate action including termination. Ms. Grossberg ignored these communications and chose to file her complaint without taking any steps to protect those portions containing Fox’s privileged information. We will continue to vigorously defend Fox against Ms. Grossberg’s unmeritorious legal claims, which are riddled with false allegations against Fox and our employees."
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