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cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:28 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:26 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:17 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:51 pm Agreed. Did you get to (and walk all the way up) Il Duomo? That’s impressive as well.

No we did not have alot of free time in Florence. My wife and I each purchased some really nice gold necklaces. We had to act like tourists after all. The most amazing thing we saw in Italy was when we were in Rome. The Fountains of Tivoli were just absolutely amazing. They were built just to appease a man who could not be pope because he was diddling a married women. he was still a very powerful man and they built this amazing palace for him. All of the fountains are gravity fed from the Tiber river.


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=th ... &FORM=VIRE

Trevi and the forum are impressive as well.

Plus just the damn bread and olive oil.

"Plus just the damn bread and olive oil."

Brings back some delicious memories. If your not careful you can stuff your face so full of bread you don't have any room left.

CU77 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:06 pm Frommer's Europe on $20/day was my bible back in the day.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:31 pm

CU77 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:06 pm Frommer's Europe on $20/day was my bible back in the day.

I was a rough guides guy but anything other than lonely planet works.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:18 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:10 pm You don't understand the real world. You don't understand internal politics. You don't understand art. You don't understand distilling.

He once was adjacent to something and you can't understand any of it.

I understand the Sistine Chapel ceiling is considered one of mans greatest creations. An astonishing achievement of a single human being over 4 years.

And I understand you may be in the minority for thinking it underwhelming.

Congratulations to you though on your successes.

Have you walked through the whole bldg only to end there? The uffizi? Tell me what you think of the Taj Mahal?

There’s more impressive architecture from Gaudi in Spain and in Istanbul. Art is about something that creates a visceral feeling inside. The minority are the ones who make claims that are absolute, especially when they haven’t experienced it and a broad enough universe of different types form which to compare relative value.

“May be”. Just jumping to conclusions like Obama is getting Flynn through a super respected law firm. You speculate others do/observe/participate.

Just chilling in the cave throwing rocks, conjecturing and hating on anyone who represents any threat to the way you want life to be.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:52 pm So if you believe that how come you make all sorts of definitive and absolute statements, like all the time?

Suggesting I’m lowering the bar but haven’t seen you have a reasonable conversation with anyone other than when you and PB jerk each other off. Throwing baby pics up and screaming about abortions, conjecture and supposition framed as absolute fact.

Kismet wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:42 pm https://news.usni.org/2020/07/12/breaki ... chard-fire

UPDATED: 11 Sailors Injured, Explosion Reported in USS Bonhomme Richard Fire

Sailors have been hurt in a fire and explosion on hanger deck aboard amphibious warship USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD-6) that’s docked the pier at Naval Base San Diego, Calif., local officials said on Sunday.

The San Diego Union-Tribune reported 11 sailors had been taken to a hospital to be treated for minor injuries, citing Navy officials.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:21 pm Not unpredictably, turns out the Russian bounty on American forces was total horse shinola.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... e-n1233199

Will anyone apologize for their hysterical takes?

seacoaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:25 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:21 pm Not unpredictably, turns out the Russian bounty on American forces was total horse shinola.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... e-n1233199

Will anyone apologize for their hysterical takes?

Did you, umm, read the article you posted?

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:34 pm

seacoaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:25 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:21 pm Not unpredictably, turns out the Russian bounty on American forces was total horse shinola.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... e-n1233199

Will anyone apologize for their hysterical takes?

Did you, umm, read the article you posted?

The question is, did you?

It’s worse when you read it. Dilanian admits they intel doesn’t support the accusations but he says that isn’t important, the narrative is.

seacoaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:58 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:34 pm

seacoaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:25 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:21 pm Not unpredictably, turns out the Russian bounty on American forces was total horse shinola.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... e-n1233199

Will anyone apologize for their hysterical takes?

Did you, umm, read the article you posted?

The question is, did you?

It’s worse when you read it. Dilanian admits they intel doesn’t support the accusations but he says that isn’t important, the narrative is.

Excerpt:

"Three retired generals who served in the chain of command over the war in Afghanistan told NBC News they saw indications Russia was supplying weapons, money, supplies and, on occasion, even transport to Taliban fighters as far back as 2016. The Taliban often received the weapons and support in northern Afghanistan, but by 2017 the Russian-supplied support was believed to be used by Taliban fighters as far south as Kandahar.

In 2017, Gen. Joseph Votel, commander of U.S. Central Command, said it was a “possibility” that Russia was arming the Taliban. By March 2018, Gen. John Nicholson, then commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, told the BBC the Russians were conducting exercises along the Afghan border with Tajikistan, and then leaving weapons and equipment behind for the Taliban to retrieve. He said the Russian support began when the U.S. and Russia were at odds in Syria.

"This activity really picked up in the last 18 to 24 months," Nicholson said. "Prior to that we had not seen this kind of destabilizing activity by Russia here. When you look at the timing it roughly correlates to when things started to heat up in Syria. So it's interesting to note the timing of the whole thing."

The initial New York Times story about the intelligence on Russian bounties characterized it as a "finding" of the intelligence community, but subsequent reporting has painted a more nuanced picture. U.S. officials tell NBC News the CIA has concluded with "moderate confidence" that there was such a bounty program, a term of art that means analysts find it plausible but less than certain. The National Security Agency — the Pentagon's digital spying arm — has said it could not corroborate the intelligence reporting from detainees, officials say.

Although an official briefed on the intelligence told NBC News it shows American service members died as a result of the bounties, McKenzie told reporters he had not seen evidence of that. He said the military was aware of the intelligence, but didn't specify when it became aware.

"You see a lot of indicators, many of them are troubling many of them you act on. But, but in this case there just wasn't enough there," he said. "I sent the intelligence guys back to continue to dig on it, and I believe they're continuing to dig right now, but I just didn't see enough there to tell me that the circuit was closed in that regard."

I am not seeing or reading the "horse shinola" part. Show me.

seacoaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:58 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:34 pm

seacoaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:25 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:21 pm Not unpredictably, turns out the Russian bounty on American forces was total horse shinola.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... e-n1233199

Will anyone apologize for their hysterical takes?

Did you, umm, read the article you posted?

The question is, did you?

It’s worse when you read it. Dilanian admits they intel doesn’t support the accusations but he says that isn’t important, the narrative is.

Excerpt:

"Three retired generals who served in the chain of command over the war in Afghanistan told NBC News they saw indications Russia was supplying weapons, money, supplies and, on occasion, even transport to Taliban fighters as far back as 2016. The Taliban often received the weapons and support in northern Afghanistan, but by 2017 the Russian-supplied support was believed to be used by Taliban fighters as far south as Kandahar.

In 2017, Gen. Joseph Votel, commander of U.S. Central Command, said it was a “possibility” that Russia was arming the Taliban. By March 2018, Gen. John Nicholson, then commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, told the BBC the Russians were conducting exercises along the Afghan border with Tajikistan, and then leaving weapons and equipment behind for the Taliban to retrieve. He said the Russian support began when the U.S. and Russia were at odds in Syria.

"This activity really picked up in the last 18 to 24 months," Nicholson said. "Prior to that we had not seen this kind of destabilizing activity by Russia here. When you look at the timing it roughly correlates to when things started to heat up in Syria. So it's interesting to note the timing of the whole thing."

The initial New York Times story about the intelligence on Russian bounties characterized it as a "finding" of the intelligence community, but subsequent reporting has painted a more nuanced picture. U.S. officials tell NBC News the CIA has concluded with "moderate confidence" that there was such a bounty program, a term of art that means analysts find it plausible but less than certain. The National Security Agency — the Pentagon's digital spying arm — has said it could not corroborate the intelligence reporting from detainees, officials say.

Although an official briefed on the intelligence told NBC News it shows American service members died as a result of the bounties, McKenzie told reporters he had not seen evidence of that. He said the military was aware of the intelligence, but didn't specify when it became aware.

"You see a lot of indicators, many of them are troubling many of them you act on. But, but in this case there just wasn't enough there," he said. "I sent the intelligence guys back to continue to dig on it, and I believe they're continuing to dig right now, but I just didn't see enough there to tell me that the circuit was closed in that regard."

I am not seeing or reading the "horse shinola" part. Show me.

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:04 pm

seacoaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:58 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:34 pm

seacoaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:25 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:21 pm Not unpredictably, turns out the Russian bounty on American forces was total horse shinola.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... e-n1233199

Will anyone apologize for their hysterical takes?

Did you, umm, read the article you posted?

The question is, did you?

It’s worse when you read it. Dilanian admits they intel doesn’t support the accusations but he says that isn’t important, the narrative is.

Excerpt:

"Three retired generals who served in the chain of command over the war in Afghanistan told NBC News they saw indications Russia was supplying weapons, money, supplies and, on occasion, even transport to Taliban fighters as far back as 2016. The Taliban often received the weapons and support in northern Afghanistan, but by 2017 the Russian-supplied support was believed to be used by Taliban fighters as far south as Kandahar.

In 2017, Gen. Joseph Votel, commander of U.S. Central Command, said it was a “possibility” that Russia was arming the Taliban. By March 2018, Gen. John Nicholson, then commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, told the BBC the Russians were conducting exercises along the Afghan border with Tajikistan, and then leaving weapons and equipment behind for the Taliban to retrieve. He said the Russian support began when the U.S. and Russia were at odds in Syria.

"This activity really picked up in the last 18 to 24 months," Nicholson said. "Prior to that we had not seen this kind of destabilizing activity by Russia here. When you look at the timing it roughly correlates to when things started to heat up in Syria. So it's interesting to note the timing of the whole thing."

The initial New York Times story about the intelligence on Russian bounties characterized it as a "finding" of the intelligence community, but subsequent reporting has painted a more nuanced picture. U.S. officials tell NBC News the CIA has concluded with "moderate confidence" that there was such a bounty program, a term of art that means analysts find it plausible but less than certain. The National Security Agency — the Pentagon's digital spying arm — has said it could not corroborate the intelligence reporting from detainees, officials say.

Although an official briefed on the intelligence told NBC News it shows American service members died as a result of the bounties, McKenzie told reporters he had not seen evidence of that. He said the military was aware of the intelligence, but didn't specify when it became aware.

"You see a lot of indicators, many of them are troubling many of them you act on. But, but in this case there just wasn't enough there," he said. "I sent the intelligence guys back to continue to dig on it, and I believe they're continuing to dig right now, but I just didn't see enough there to tell me that the circuit was closed in that regard."

I am not seeing or reading the "horse shinola" part. Show me.

Retired General Colin Powell Accuses Media of ‘Almost Hysterical’ Coverage of Russia-Taliban Bounty Program: ‘It Got Kind Of Out Of Control’

On Thursday, Powell wouldn’t attack the credibility of the reports, but said the media’s wall-to-wall coverage was “almost hysterical.”

“I know that our military commanders on the ground did not think that it was as serious a problem as the newspapers were reporting and television was reporting,” Powell said in an interview with MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell. “It got kind of out of control before we really had an understanding of what had happened. I’m not sure we fully understand now.”

“It’s our commanders who are going to go deal with this kind of a threat, using intelligence given to them by the intelligence community,” Powell continued. “But that has to be analyzed. It has to be attested. And then you have to go find out who the enemy is. And I think we were on top of that one, but it just got almost hysterical in the first few days.”

Powell went on to describe the priorities of the U.S. Army, and how Russia isn’t one of them right now.

“I don’t think we’re in a position to go to war with the Russians,” Powell said. “I know Mr. [Vladimir] Putin rather well. He’s just figuring out a way to stay in power until 2036. The last thing he’s looking for is a war, and the last thing he’s looking for is a war with the United States of America.”

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:14 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:04 pm

seacoaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:58 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:34 pm

seacoaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:25 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:21 pm Not unpredictably, turns out the Russian bounty on American forces was total horse shinola.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... e-n1233199

Will anyone apologize for their hysterical takes?

Did you, umm, read the article you posted?

The question is, did you?

It’s worse when you read it. Dilanian admits they intel doesn’t support the accusations but he says that isn’t important, the narrative is.

Excerpt:

"Three retired generals who served in the chain of command over the war in Afghanistan told NBC News they saw indications Russia was supplying weapons, money, supplies and, on occasion, even transport to Taliban fighters as far back as 2016. The Taliban often received the weapons and support in northern Afghanistan, but by 2017 the Russian-supplied support was believed to be used by Taliban fighters as far south as Kandahar.

In 2017, Gen. Joseph Votel, commander of U.S. Central Command, said it was a “possibility” that Russia was arming the Taliban. By March 2018, Gen. John Nicholson, then commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, told the BBC the Russians were conducting exercises along the Afghan border with Tajikistan, and then leaving weapons and equipment behind for the Taliban to retrieve. He said the Russian support began when the U.S. and Russia were at odds in Syria.

"This activity really picked up in the last 18 to 24 months," Nicholson said. "Prior to that we had not seen this kind of destabilizing activity by Russia here. When you look at the timing it roughly correlates to when things started to heat up in Syria. So it's interesting to note the timing of the whole thing."

The initial New York Times story about the intelligence on Russian bounties characterized it as a "finding" of the intelligence community, but subsequent reporting has painted a more nuanced picture. U.S. officials tell NBC News the CIA has concluded with "moderate confidence" that there was such a bounty program, a term of art that means analysts find it plausible but less than certain. The National Security Agency — the Pentagon's digital spying arm — has said it could not corroborate the intelligence reporting from detainees, officials say.

Although an official briefed on the intelligence told NBC News it shows American service members died as a result of the bounties, McKenzie told reporters he had not seen evidence of that. He said the military was aware of the intelligence, but didn't specify when it became aware.

"You see a lot of indicators, many of them are troubling many of them you act on. But, but in this case there just wasn't enough there," he said. "I sent the intelligence guys back to continue to dig on it, and I believe they're continuing to dig right now, but I just didn't see enough there to tell me that the circuit was closed in that regard."

I am not seeing or reading the "horse shinola" part. Show me.

Retired General Colin Powell Accuses Media of ‘Almost Hysterical’ Coverage of Russia-Taliban Bounty Program: ‘It Got Kind Of Out Of Control’

On Thursday, Powell wouldn’t attack the credibility of the reports, but said the media’s wall-to-wall coverage was “almost hysterical.”

“I know that our military commanders on the ground did not think that it was as serious a problem as the newspapers were reporting and television was reporting,” Powell said in an interview with MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell. “It got kind of out of control before we really had an understanding of what had happened. I’m not sure we fully understand now.”

“It’s our commanders who are going to go deal with this kind of a threat, using intelligence given to them by the intelligence community,” Powell continued. “But that has to be analyzed. It has to be attested. And then you have to go find out who the enemy is. And I think we were on top of that one, but it just got almost hysterical in the first few days.”

Powell went on to describe the priorities of the U.S. Army, and how Russia isn’t one of them right now.

“I don’t think we’re in a position to go to war with the Russians,” Powell said. “I know Mr. [Vladimir] Putin rather well. He’s just figuring out a way to stay in power until 2036. The last thing he’s looking for is a war, and the last thing he’s looking for is a war with the United States of America.”

Ignore reports of bounties.

Let's focus on the above bolded part from actual Generals.

Why are we not waging a Cold War with Russia? They're arming proxies that are obviously helping to kill our troops.

Why are we letting that slide? Anyone?

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:29 pm What makes you assume we are?