Same Party, Different House
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And there you have it. Petey finally shows his true colors. Party over Country.Republicans = America, if it's not too obvious to you.
Point taken. Negotiating 101, reach out far and settle in the middle.holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 12:37 pmyouthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 11:53 am What is missing from your post? The usual.....the meat and potatoes.
He is saying this because Twitter has conveniently begun doing this exact thing. Nice post of omission.
Trump: "blatant lie"
Twitter label underneath: "get the facts on this issue"
Trump: "CENSORSHIP!!!!!"
i agree both sides want the playing field to tilt their way. seems to me somewhere in there we should be able to find equitable solutions. from the colors above:ggait wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 1:03 pm So the GOP ABSOLUTELY LOVES LOVES LOVES mail-in absentee voting because they think it favors them. They fear universal mail-in voting (UT, CO, WA, OR, HI) because they fear it makes it too easy for younger and darker voters to vote. But universal mail-in voting is eventually going to come to all states eventually. It is just better in every way.
Since there's more Dems than Reps, the GOP clings (with its cold dead hands) to every piece of our political system that allows the few to beat the many. Hence the focus on SCOTUS and judges, the US Senate, gerrymandering, voter ID, voter suppression, gutting the voting rights act, purging voter rolls, etc. etc. etc. Makes total sense -- if you are the minority you are not excited about anything that makes it more likely the majority will come out and vote.
So your conversation is completely disingenuous. It has less than zero to do with fraud. It is 100% about trying to increase the chances for your team to win the game. Which is fine and (unfortunately) the American way these days.
TLD said it best. "Hopefully he can fog a mirror. If not, I will vote for him anyway." referring to Biden. Seems it is anyone BUT trump regardless of who is on the ticket.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 1:45 pm Reported today that Democratic billionaire Reid Hoffman will be one of the tech billionaires boosting Biden.
This is the same guy who helped rehab Jeffrey Epstein's image and bankrolled a Democratic disinformation campaign in Alabama.
Great job everyone! You hate Trump so much, you become just like him!
https://freebeacon.com/2020-election/bi ... ost-biden/
Just saw this Wonder why TEitter did not censor her for suggestion Trump be murdered? https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status ... 29025?s=20youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 1:14 pmPoint taken. Negotiating 101, reach out far and settle in the middle.holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 12:37 pmyouthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 11:53 am What is missing from your post? The usual.....the meat and potatoes.
He is saying this because Twitter has conveniently begun doing this exact thing. Nice post of omission.
Trump: "blatant lie"
Twitter label underneath: "get the facts on this issue"
Trump: "CENSORSHIP!!!!!"
+1. I nominate ggait to respond to all Trumpist posts on mail-in ballots. Just the rational ones.ggait wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 1:03 pmPetey -- let me give you a few actual facts. And then you can resume your fact-free, clueless, partisan, axe grinding unabated.The whole purpose of voting by paper is to allow Democrats today yet one more avenue to cheat to win an election.
In 1992, 92% of the votes nation-wide were cast the old school way -- in person on election day. Down to 60% in 2016. Covid or no, that percentage will continue to drop in each upcoming election cycle. Old school could be the minority of votes cast in 2020. In person/election day voting may well disappear in our lifetimes. It is expensive, inconvenient, and not all that secure and fraud-free.
No voting system is perfect. But new school voting (soon to be the majority way of voting) is as reliable (or more reliable) as old school.
Studies show little evidence of partisan lean in new school voting methods. Mostly, new school voting favors the party that is better able to mobilize its voters to use the new school methods. For a long time, that actually favored the GOP. Because the GOP was very good at getting its older whiter voters to request absentee ballots. That's why Dem politicians in OR and WA initially opposed their universal mail-in election systems.
So the GOP ABSOLUTELY LOVES LOVES LOVES mail-in absentee voting because they think it favors them. They fear universal mail-in voting (UT, CO, WA, OR, HI) because they fear it makes it too easy for younger and darker voters to vote. But universal mail-in voting is eventually going to come to all states eventually. It is just better in every way.
Since there's more Dems than Reps, the GOP clings (with its cold dead hands) to every piece of our political system that allows the few to beat the many. Hence the focus on SCOTUS and judges, the US Senate, gerrymandering, voter ID, voter suppression, gutting the voting rights act, purging voter rolls, etc. etc. etc. Makes total sense -- if you are the minority you are not excited about anything that makes it more likely the majority will come out and vote.
So your conversation is completely disingenuous. It has less than zero to do with fraud. It is 100% about trying to increase the chances for your team to win the game. Which is fine and (unfortunately) the American way these days.
So I'd prefer you just own it -- that's fine. Rather than pee-ing on our legs and telling us it is raining.
You mean the one where Roy Moore was exposed as a sexual predator?Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 1:45 pm This is the same guy who . . . bankrolled a Democratic disinformation campaign in Alabama.
Hep us understand why Nadler, in 2004, was arguing how corrupt mail in voting was in New York?njbill wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:19 pm+1. I nominate ggait to respond to all Trumpist posts on mail-in ballots. Just the rational ones.ggait wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 1:03 pmPetey -- let me give you a few actual facts. And then you can resume your fact-free, clueless, partisan, axe grinding unabated.The whole purpose of voting by paper is to allow Democrats today yet one more avenue to cheat to win an election.
In 1992, 92% of the votes nation-wide were cast the old school way -- in person on election day. Down to 60% in 2016. Covid or no, that percentage will continue to drop in each upcoming election cycle. Old school could be the minority of votes cast in 2020. In person/election day voting may well disappear in our lifetimes. It is expensive, inconvenient, and not all that secure and fraud-free.
No voting system is perfect. But new school voting (soon to be the majority way of voting) is as reliable (or more reliable) as old school.
Studies show little evidence of partisan lean in new school voting methods. Mostly, new school voting favors the party that is better able to mobilize its voters to use the new school methods. For a long time, that actually favored the GOP. Because the GOP was very good at getting its older whiter voters to request absentee ballots. That's why Dem politicians in OR and WA initially opposed their universal mail-in election systems.
So the GOP ABSOLUTELY LOVES LOVES LOVES mail-in absentee voting because they think it favors them. They fear universal mail-in voting (UT, CO, WA, OR, HI) because they fear it makes it too easy for younger and darker voters to vote. But universal mail-in voting is eventually going to come to all states eventually. It is just better in every way.
Since there's more Dems than Reps, the GOP clings (with its cold dead hands) to every piece of our political system that allows the few to beat the many. Hence the focus on SCOTUS and judges, the US Senate, gerrymandering, voter ID, voter suppression, gutting the voting rights act, purging voter rolls, etc. etc. etc. Makes total sense -- if you are the minority you are not excited about anything that makes it more likely the majority will come out and vote.
So your conversation is completely disingenuous. It has less than zero to do with fraud. It is 100% about trying to increase the chances for your team to win the game. Which is fine and (unfortunately) the American way these days.
So I'd prefer you just own it -- that's fine. Rather than pee-ing on our legs and telling us it is raining.
In the words of the Very Stable Genius, "if everyone votes, Republicans will never win an election."
Why do you think he said that?ggait wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 1:03 pmPetey -- let me give you a few actual facts. And then you can resume your fact-free, clueless, partisan, axe grinding unabated.The whole purpose of voting by paper is to allow Democrats today yet one more avenue to cheat to win an election.
In 1992, 92% of the votes nation-wide were cast the old school way -- in person on election day. Down to 60% in 2016. Covid or no, that percentage will continue to drop in each upcoming election cycle. Old school could be the minority of votes cast in 2020. In person/election day voting may well disappear in our lifetimes. It is expensive, inconvenient, and not all that secure and fraud-free.
No voting system is perfect. But new school voting (soon to be the majority way of voting) is as reliable (or more reliable) as old school.
Studies show little evidence of partisan lean in new school voting methods. Mostly, new school voting favors the party that is better able to mobilize its voters to use the new school methods. For a long time, that actually favored the GOP. Because the GOP was very good at getting its older whiter voters to request absentee ballots. That's why Dem politicians in OR and WA initially opposed their universal mail-in election systems.
So the GOP ABSOLUTELY LOVES LOVES LOVES mail-in absentee voting because they think it favors them. They fear universal mail-in voting (UT, CO, WA, OR, HI) because they fear it makes it too easy for younger and darker voters to vote. But universal mail-in voting is eventually going to come to all states eventually. It is just better in every way.
Since there's more Dems than Reps, the GOP clings (with its cold dead hands) to every piece of our political system that allows the few to beat the many. Hence the focus on SCOTUS and judges, the US Senate, gerrymandering, voter ID, voter suppression, gutting the voting rights act, purging voter rolls, etc. etc. etc. Makes total sense -- if you are the minority you are not excited about anything that makes it more likely the majority will come out and vote.
So your conversation is completely disingenuous. It has less than zero to do with fraud. It is 100% about trying to increase the chances for your team to win the game. Which is fine and (unfortunately) the American way these days.
So I'd prefer you just own it -- that's fine. Rather than pee-ing on our legs and telling us it is raining.
Don't forget that Dems kick dogs, and throw old people into oncoming traffic when no one is looking.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:51 pm Perhaps you good people would do me the favor of reading this article from the Orlando Sun Sentinel and see just how easy it is for Democrats to cheat, lie, and steal their way with mail voting...there is zero accountability and no one will mind the till. This is what Democrats want: chaos, confusion, and your patience.
Answer this question: how do Americans receive their Driver's licenses and Passports in the first place? Take you time, and think this through.
Did you watch the video of that whole Hearing??? He was calling for proper record keeping to all types of voting records. As if he knew that ill willed individuals could try to subvert the process.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:28 pmHep us understand why Nadler, in 2004, was arguing how corrupt mail in voting was in New York?njbill wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:19 pm+1. I nominate ggait to respond to all Trumpist posts on mail-in ballots. Just the rational ones.ggait wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 1:03 pmPetey -- let me give you a few actual facts. And then you can resume your fact-free, clueless, partisan, axe grinding unabated.The whole purpose of voting by paper is to allow Democrats today yet one more avenue to cheat to win an election.
In 1992, 92% of the votes nation-wide were cast the old school way -- in person on election day. Down to 60% in 2016. Covid or no, that percentage will continue to drop in each upcoming election cycle. Old school could be the minority of votes cast in 2020. In person/election day voting may well disappear in our lifetimes. It is expensive, inconvenient, and not all that secure and fraud-free.
No voting system is perfect. But new school voting (soon to be the majority way of voting) is as reliable (or more reliable) as old school.
Studies show little evidence of partisan lean in new school voting methods. Mostly, new school voting favors the party that is better able to mobilize its voters to use the new school methods. For a long time, that actually favored the GOP. Because the GOP was very good at getting its older whiter voters to request absentee ballots. That's why Dem politicians in OR and WA initially opposed their universal mail-in election systems.
So the GOP ABSOLUTELY LOVES LOVES LOVES mail-in absentee voting because they think it favors them. They fear universal mail-in voting (UT, CO, WA, OR, HI) because they fear it makes it too easy for younger and darker voters to vote. But universal mail-in voting is eventually going to come to all states eventually. It is just better in every way.
Since there's more Dems than Reps, the GOP clings (with its cold dead hands) to every piece of our political system that allows the few to beat the many. Hence the focus on SCOTUS and judges, the US Senate, gerrymandering, voter ID, voter suppression, gutting the voting rights act, purging voter rolls, etc. etc. etc. Makes total sense -- if you are the minority you are not excited about anything that makes it more likely the majority will come out and vote.
So your conversation is completely disingenuous. It has less than zero to do with fraud. It is 100% about trying to increase the chances for your team to win the game. Which is fine and (unfortunately) the American way these days.
So I'd prefer you just own it -- that's fine. Rather than pee-ing on our legs and telling us it is raining.
In the words of the Very Stable Genius, "if everyone votes, Republicans will never win an election."
a fan wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 4:08 pmDon't forget that Dems kick dogs, and throw old people into oncoming traffic when no one is looking.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:51 pm Perhaps you good people would do me the favor of reading this article from the Orlando Sun Sentinel and see just how easy it is for Democrats to cheat, lie, and steal their way with mail voting...there is zero accountability and no one will mind the till. This is what Democrats want: chaos, confusion, and your patience.
Answer this question: how do Americans receive their Driver's licenses and Passports in the first place? Take you time, and think this through.
Secondly, what's keeping your super-dooper awesome Republican States from shutting down all voting by mail?
Take your time, and get back to us.
This is all so stupid. What's more, you know it's stupid, but that won't stop you from your silly trolling....
Beats me. But if you asked him today, I'll bet he'd say his views have "evolved" in the past 16 years.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:28 pmHep us understand why Nadler, in 2004, was arguing how corrupt mail in voting was in New York?njbill wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:19 pm+1. I nominate ggait to respond to all Trumpist posts on mail-in ballots. Just the rational ones.ggait wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 1:03 pmPetey -- let me give you a few actual facts. And then you can resume your fact-free, clueless, partisan, axe grinding unabated.The whole purpose of voting by paper is to allow Democrats today yet one more avenue to cheat to win an election.
In 1992, 92% of the votes nation-wide were cast the old school way -- in person on election day. Down to 60% in 2016. Covid or no, that percentage will continue to drop in each upcoming election cycle. Old school could be the minority of votes cast in 2020. In person/election day voting may well disappear in our lifetimes. It is expensive, inconvenient, and not all that secure and fraud-free.
No voting system is perfect. But new school voting (soon to be the majority way of voting) is as reliable (or more reliable) as old school.
Studies show little evidence of partisan lean in new school voting methods. Mostly, new school voting favors the party that is better able to mobilize its voters to use the new school methods. For a long time, that actually favored the GOP. Because the GOP was very good at getting its older whiter voters to request absentee ballots. That's why Dem politicians in OR and WA initially opposed their universal mail-in election systems.
So the GOP ABSOLUTELY LOVES LOVES LOVES mail-in absentee voting because they think it favors them. They fear universal mail-in voting (UT, CO, WA, OR, HI) because they fear it makes it too easy for younger and darker voters to vote. But universal mail-in voting is eventually going to come to all states eventually. It is just better in every way.
Since there's more Dems than Reps, the GOP clings (with its cold dead hands) to every piece of our political system that allows the few to beat the many. Hence the focus on SCOTUS and judges, the US Senate, gerrymandering, voter ID, voter suppression, gutting the voting rights act, purging voter rolls, etc. etc. etc. Makes total sense -- if you are the minority you are not excited about anything that makes it more likely the majority will come out and vote.
So your conversation is completely disingenuous. It has less than zero to do with fraud. It is 100% about trying to increase the chances for your team to win the game. Which is fine and (unfortunately) the American way these days.
So I'd prefer you just own it -- that's fine. Rather than pee-ing on our legs and telling us it is raining.
In the words of the Very Stable Genius, "if everyone votes, Republicans will never win an election."
njbill wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 4:34 pmBeats me. But if you asked him today, I'll bet he'd say his views have "evolved" in the past 16 years.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:28 pmHep us understand why Nadler, in 2004, was arguing how corrupt mail in voting was in New York?njbill wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:19 pm+1. I nominate ggait to respond to all Trumpist posts on mail-in ballots. Just the rational ones.ggait wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 1:03 pmPetey -- let me give you a few actual facts. And then you can resume your fact-free, clueless, partisan, axe grinding unabated.The whole purpose of voting by paper is to allow Democrats today yet one more avenue to cheat to win an election.
In 1992, 92% of the votes nation-wide were cast the old school way -- in person on election day. Down to 60% in 2016. Covid or no, that percentage will continue to drop in each upcoming election cycle. Old school could be the minority of votes cast in 2020. In person/election day voting may well disappear in our lifetimes. It is expensive, inconvenient, and not all that secure and fraud-free.
No voting system is perfect. But new school voting (soon to be the majority way of voting) is as reliable (or more reliable) as old school.
Studies show little evidence of partisan lean in new school voting methods. Mostly, new school voting favors the party that is better able to mobilize its voters to use the new school methods. For a long time, that actually favored the GOP. Because the GOP was very good at getting its older whiter voters to request absentee ballots. That's why Dem politicians in OR and WA initially opposed their universal mail-in election systems.
So the GOP ABSOLUTELY LOVES LOVES LOVES mail-in absentee voting because they think it favors them. They fear universal mail-in voting (UT, CO, WA, OR, HI) because they fear it makes it too easy for younger and darker voters to vote. But universal mail-in voting is eventually going to come to all states eventually. It is just better in every way.
Since there's more Dems than Reps, the GOP clings (with its cold dead hands) to every piece of our political system that allows the few to beat the many. Hence the focus on SCOTUS and judges, the US Senate, gerrymandering, voter ID, voter suppression, gutting the voting rights act, purging voter rolls, etc. etc. etc. Makes total sense -- if you are the minority you are not excited about anything that makes it more likely the majority will come out and vote.
So your conversation is completely disingenuous. It has less than zero to do with fraud. It is 100% about trying to increase the chances for your team to win the game. Which is fine and (unfortunately) the American way these days.
So I'd prefer you just own it -- that's fine. Rather than pee-ing on our legs and telling us it is raining.
In the words of the Very Stable Genius, "if everyone votes, Republicans will never win an election."
Ask Kayleigh McEnany why she thinks mail in voting is so safe she's used it 11 times.
Ask Trump why he voted by mail in the Florida primary.
Or is voting by mail only bad when Ds do it?
That trade off has been offered for years, in return for like kind to gun ownership. Guess who then cries like the little bitches that they are...Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 4:33 pma fan wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 4:08 pmDon't forget that Dems kick dogs, and throw old people into oncoming traffic when no one is looking.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:51 pm Perhaps you good people would do me the favor of reading this article from the Orlando Sun Sentinel and see just how easy it is for Democrats to cheat, lie, and steal their way with mail voting...there is zero accountability and no one will mind the till. This is what Democrats want: chaos, confusion, and your patience.
Answer this question: how do Americans receive their Driver's licenses and Passports in the first place? Take you time, and think this through.
Secondly, what's keeping your super-dooper awesome Republican States from shutting down all voting by mail?
Take your time, and get back to us.
This is all so stupid. What's more, you know it's stupid, but that won't stop you from your silly trolling....
Great suggestion! I think one should have to pass a test to vote,
CU88 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 4:40 pmThat trade off has been offered for years, in return for like kind to gun ownership. Guess who then cries like the little bitches that they are...Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 4:33 pma fan wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 4:08 pmDon't forget that Dems kick dogs, and throw old people into oncoming traffic when no one is looking.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:51 pm Perhaps you good people would do me the favor of reading this article from the Orlando Sun Sentinel and see just how easy it is for Democrats to cheat, lie, and steal their way with mail voting...there is zero accountability and no one will mind the till. This is what Democrats want: chaos, confusion, and your patience.
Answer this question: how do Americans receive their Driver's licenses and Passports in the first place? Take you time, and think this through.
Secondly, what's keeping your super-dooper awesome Republican States from shutting down all voting by mail?
Take your time, and get back to us.
This is all so stupid. What's more, you know it's stupid, but that won't stop you from your silly trolling....
Great suggestion! I think one should have to pass a test to vote,
I read your article. Not a good commentary on your Republican-lead Florida government. Better mention that to Ron next time you see him.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 3:51 pm Perhaps you good people would do me the favor of reading this article from the Orlando Sun Sentinel and see just how easy it is for Democrats to cheat, lie, and steal their way with mail voting...there is zero accountability and no one will mind the till. This is what Democrats want: chaos, confusion, and your patience.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/co ... story.html
they have no way to check to see whether someone exists.
There are two big problems with vote by mail. Number one, are the sort of things we discovered in the Justice Department when I was there — of people voting the ballot for other people through undue influence. That’s the first one. The second one — the voter rolls are a mess
Democrats will try to win at all costs. Republicans must win by 5% in order to overcome the fraud.