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a fan wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:19 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:06 pm Oh hey, a black guy slashes two women in a Portland laundromat with a machete, all caught on tape, but police can’t arrest him because a crowd surrounds the police trying to make the arrest and taunt the police that they’re “racist”.

A fan will have some nuanced view of this video. Perhaps best to watch yourselves:

https://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/12 ... 54529?s=21
Nuanced? No. But I'll get my facts straight. You, on the other hand, are just making things up.

Here's the tweet:
Graphic: Shane V. Green, who is black, walked inside a NE Portland laundromat & used a sharp handsaw to attack two women. Responding police located him on a nearby street but the arrest was interrupted by Portlanders who screamed at & taunted officers, accusing them of racism.

Shall we begin? And this is just for starters

-we have no clue what the man's name is in the video
-can't tell what race he is
-certainly can't see his voter registration card
-we don't know where this video is being shot. Could've been in Cleveland for all we know from the video
-we don't know when this video was shot. Could've been last year.
-he's claiming he used a handsaw, you're claiming he used a machete. Neither guesses are clear in the video
-there's no crowd in the video, as the tweeter is claiming
-there's no police in the video, as the tweeter is claiming
-there's obviously no record of anyone chanting anything, because there's no sound

Shall I continue, Pete, or do you get the point yet that none of the claims you are making are verified by what we see in the video?


I wouldn’t continue but you should feel free to. Because you could have taken a second to google the guy and come up with multiple reports of what happened. Rather than embarrass yourself, which is happening with alarming frequency here. Anyway, please read and learn:

https://katu.com/news/local/man-in-cust ... police-say

Still intent on not admitting what’s on the video? I suspect you sadly are. Oh well.

The larger point which escaped you is once again Democrats are boxing themselves into the corner of mayhem and lawlessness bc Everyone’s a racist.
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Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 pm I wouldn’t continue but you should feel free to. Because you could have taken a second to google the guy and come up with multiple reports of what happened. Rather than embarrass yourself, which is happening with alarming frequency here. Anyway, please read and learn:
:lol: So what you're saying is, you need to give me outside citations to try and corroborate what's in the video. So you DO understand that nope, I'm not going to conclude doodly from watching a video that "some guy on the internet" posted?

Good for you. You're catching on. Or at least I think you are.


Or are you backtracking, and telling me that I should have trusted, for example, this Washington DC video without hesitation, and without getting more information, because "some guy on the internet" showed me a video?

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Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 pm The larger point which escaped you is once again Democrats are boxing themselves into the corner of mayhem and lawlessness bc Everyone’s a racist.
Uh oh. Seems you forgot about your whole "Innocence Project" schtick. Innocent until proven guilty went right out the window for this man, eh? Boy, that was fast, Pete.
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Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 pm

... Democrats are boxing themselves into the corner of mayhem and lawlessness bc Everyone’s a racist.

PB forgets that nobody plays the race card more than does the far right:


The Right Plays the Race Card
By Right Wing Watch Staff
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
Introduction
The Political Use of Racial Resentment
The Sotomayor Nomination
A Consistent Line of Attack
Health Care Reform
Blaming the Black Church for the Obama 'Curse'
Other Race or Race-Coded Strategies From the Right
Other Racial Politics on the Right
Real Dangers
Conclusion
Introduction
Right-wing pundits and political leaders committed to the destruction of the Obama presidency have been openly fomenting racial resentment or tolerating those who do. In one breath, they accuse President Obama of being racist and in the next they and their media allies howl with indignation if their own racial rhetoric is challenged. Among their charges: that President Obama hates “white culture” and that his health care reform efforts are a backdoor means to reparations for slavery that will “enslave” doctors and put the “racial grievance industry” in charge of emergency rooms.

Race-baiting pundits try to insulate themselves by falsely claiming that liberals play the “race card” to equate any criticism of the Obama administration with racism. In fact, this charge is itself an example of inflaming racial resentments for political gain. In other words, crying “You can’t even criticize Obama without being called a racist” is just one more way to suggest that white conservatives are being oppressed.

At the same time, Religious Right leaders insist that Obama’s election has put the nation under a “curse” and ask Black Christians to repent for putting “race over God.”

It is imperative that political, media, and cultural leaders be willing to hold public figures accountable for destructive rhetoric while not allowing right-wing racial arsonists to divert energy and focus from the administration’s legislative agenda. The most important question is not whether a particular pundit or politician harbors racist feelings; it is whether they are fomenting and inflaming racial resentment as a political strategy without concern for the destructive and dangerous consequences. That political behavior can and must be challenged without getting stuck in “is he or isn’t he” arguments.

The Political Use of Racial Resentment
Fomenting racial resentment as a political strategy has a long and dishonorable history in the Republican Party ever since the passage of civil rights legislation and the Nixon campaign’s “southern strategy.” Ronald Reagan, the conservative movement’s icon, tapped that strategic vein when he made a campaign stop in Philadelphia, Mississippi, site of the notorious murder of three civil rights workers two decades before, to declare his support for “states’ rights.”

It is clear that some right-wing strategists have calculated that fanning the flames of racial division could be one way to try to win back some of the white working-class voters who backed Barack Obama and other Democratic candidates in 2008. Central to this race-baiting strategy is accusing Obama himself of being a racist who is deliberately advancing policies that are meant to help people of color at the expense of white people, and foreigners at the expense of Americans. This is a particularly potent and potentially explosive strategy at a time when millions of Americans are out of work and economically vulnerable.

When Barack Obama was asked about the controversial arrest of Harvard Professor Skip Gates and answered that he thought the police had acted “stupidly” (a comment for which he quickly apologized), Rush Limbaugh declared that Obama was “fanning the flames of race” as “a black president trying to destroy a white policeman.” Limbaugh, whose record of racially charged rhetoric is well-documented, has also said recently, “We need segregated buses… In Obama’s America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, right on, right on, right on….”

To cite just a few other examples:

Fox News’ Glenn Beck went a step further to declare that President Obama “has a deep seated hatred for white people, or the white culture…” Hatred of “white culture?” That’s rhetoric more appropriate for an avowed supremacist like David Duke.
Bill O’Reilly told his viewers that “the left sees white men as a problem” and sees putting women and minorities in power as the solution.
Right-wing blogs still abound with charges that a campaign reference to his own grandmother as a “typical white person” reflected anti-white racism on Obama’s part.
These pundits reach millions of people with their irresponsible and inflammatory rhetoric, and others, including less visible radio hosts, reach millions more. Unfortunately, Republican leaders who share the far right’s goal of damaging the Obama presidency have not shown much interest in challenging egregious race-baiting claims about the president and his administration. RNC chairman Michael Steele, however, demanded that the president disavow Carter’s comments, accusing Democrats of “playing the race card … from the bottom of the deck.” Steele hasn’t been so quick to challenge the overt race-card playing by right-wing pundit/power-brokers like Limbaugh and Beck.

And many Democratic strategists, having concluded that any discussion of race is bad for the White House, prefer that the conversation be avoided altogether. Thus, when Jimmy Carter spoke the obvious truth that some of the hostility directed at the Obama presidency is a reflection of racism, conservatives and much of the media adopted a “oh, no, he didn’t” stance while the White House quickly dismissed any role that racism might play in criticism of the president.

Some journalists and organizations have been willing to take on the right’s racial manipulations. See, for example, the Media Matters video “Fear of a Black President.”

The Sotomayor Nomination
Much of the radical right’s made the racial calculus clear:

The imperative of the GOP is not to appease a city that went 93-7 for Obama, but to win back its lost voters.

In 2008, Hispanics, according to the latest figures, were 7.4 percent of the total vote. White folks were 74 percent, 10 times as large. Adding just 1 percent to the white vote is thus the same as adding 10 percent to the candidate’s Hispanic vote.

If John McCain, instead of getting 55 percent of the white vote, got the 58 percent George W. Bush got in 2004, that would have had the same impact as lifting his share of the Hispanic vote from 32 percent to 62 percent.

But even Ronald Reagan never got over 44 percent of the Hispanic vote. Yet, he and Richard Nixon both got around 65 percent of the white vote.

When Republican identification is down to 20 percent, but 40 percent of Americans identify themselves as conservatives, do Republicans need a GPS to tell them which way to go?

Why did McCain fail to win the white conservative Democrats Hillary Clinton swept in the primaries? He never addressed or cared about their issues.

These are the folks whose jobs have been outsourced to China and Asia, who pay the price of affirmative action when their sons and daughters are pushed aside to make room for the Sonia Sotomayors. These are the folks who want the borders secured and the illegals sent back….

What they must do is expose Sotomayor, as they did not in the case of Ginsburg, as a political activist whose career bespeaks a lifelong resolve to discriminate against white males to the degree necessary to bring about an equality of rewards in society.

A Consistent Line of Attack
There is seemingly no policy issue for which right-wing pundits cannot find a racial resentment angle. Glenn Beck, for example, has insisted that every single policy initiative that the Obama administration is trying to advance in Congress is grounded in the president’s supposed obsession with getting white Americans to pay reparations for slavery, or as Beck put it, “settling old racial scores” (even though the president is on record in opposition to reparations).

Earlier this year when economist Robert Reich testified that stimulus funds should benefit not only white construction workers but also other groups of workers, some right-wing pundits like Glenn Beck and Michelle Malkin wrongly suggested that the Obama administration was plotting to keep stimulus funds away from white construction workers altogether and have them sent instead to “[Rep. Charlie] Rangel’s pet constituents.”

Right-wing attacks on ACORN and glee over its recent problems abound with imagery of urban corruption. At the recent How to Take Back America conference session on voter fraud and ACORN, Republican activist Kris Kobach, who is running to be Secretary of State in Kansas, asserted that in America nowdays no one is disenfranchised because of the color of their skin; it is now voters like those in the room who are disenfranchised when their votes are cancelled out by the supposed voter fraud carried out by ACORN and its allies. On right-wing pundit Michele Malkin’s blog, a commenter responding to her “Obama is ACORN. ACORN is Obama” diatribe, wrote, “Now as President B. Hussein Obama he has credibility as a marxist, black nationalist and Chicago street hustler/organizer but little else. He could no more disown ACORN then he could Jeremiah Wright or his Typical White Grandmother.”

Health Care Reform
At first glance, health care reform would not seem as likely an issue for racial wedge politics. But racially charged arguments have been made alongside the by-now familiar charges of government takeovers, socialism, fascism, and death panels. Investors Business Daily and Fox Nation teamed up to portray health care reform as “affirmative action on steroids” and to suggest that reform is actually a back-door way to implement reparations for slavery:

The racial grievance industry under health care reform could be calling the shots in the emergency room, the operating room, the medical room, even medical school. As Terence Jeffrey, editor at large of Human Events puts it, not only our wealth, but also our health will be redistributed.

At the recent How to Take Back America conference organized by far-right doyenne Phyllis Schlafly and her heir-apparent,right-wing radio host and activist Janet Folger Porter, a panelist attacked health care reform saying it would amount to a reenactment of slavery by our first black president, this time with doctors being enslaved. Bishop Harry Jackson, the Religious Right’s favorite African American minister, has denounced health care reform proposals that he claims would divert health care resources from wealthier to poorer Americans as “reverse classism.”

Two academics, Marc Hetherington of Vanderbilt University and Jonathan Weiler of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, recently found an “extraordinarily strong correlation between racial resentment of blacks and opposition to health care reform,” a relationship that did not exist during the Clinton health care debate.

Blaming the Black Church for the Obama 'Curse'
Religious Right leaders have long tried to build alliances with the Black Church by focusing on areas in which many churchgoing African Americans hold more conservative views than many of their progressive political allies. But in a strange twist on this strategy, some Religious Right leaders, black and white, are suggesting that Black churchgoers must repent for having voted for Obama. Before the election, Bishop Harry Jackson and others suggested that voting for Obama would be voting against God. But because America did elect Obama, the nation is now living under a curse, declares Janet Porter, and America must repent. At How to Take Back America, Porter recounted the story of attending a showing of a new “documentary” portraying legal abortion as black genocide, after which a speaker urged people to confess if they had voted for pro-choice candidates like President Obama. An African American woman, Porter says, rose and prayed, “Forgive me Lord, for putting race over you.”

Other Race or Race-Coded Strategies From the Right
The “birther” movement – the ongoing theory and ludicrous legal campaign alleging that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and therefore not a legitimate president – is all about portraying the president as an African usurper, not one of us. While some right-wing pundits and political leaders have distanced themselves from the “birthers,” there has been no real fallout for those who continue to insinuate that Obama is not an American: birther Janet Porter was recently lavished with praise by presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee and members of Congress who attended her conference.

Another thread of right-wing attacks on Obama is that his Christianity is a fraudulent cover and that he is a secret Muslim. Author Frank Gaffney, also welcomed at conservative political conferences, has even accused Obama of sending coded signals to Muslim extremists indicating that he’s willing to accept Sharia law (of course this anti-Obama theory is wildly inconsistent with right-wing complaints about Obama’s support for LGBT equality, but that’s never been a problem for the Right). The depth of anti-Muslim hostility and hysteria were reflected in wildly inflammatory charges that the Council on American Islamic Relations was infiltrating Congress with spies and putting national security at risk, all based on an organizational memo that it was seeking to place young people in internship positions.

Still another theme is the return of “states’ rights” on steroids, such as Texas Gov. Rick Perry earlier this year suggesting that Texas should consider seceding.

Other Racial Politics on the Right
In addition to the multiple-front efforts to diminish support for the Obama administration by fanning racial resentment among working class white Americans, Religious Right leaders continue to wage wedge campaigns designed to use issues like abortion and marriage equality to try to divide churchgoing African Americans from the progressive movement. Of course, it’s a challenge to pursue both strategies simultaneously. Thus we were treated to the somewhat astonishing display of Harry Jackson pleading with right-wing activists at the Values Voters Summit to stop sounding so racist in their attacks on Obama because it was getting in the way of his ability to mobilize black clergy for his anti-gay campaign in the District of Columbia-a campaign which itself fans racial and class divisions in an effort to defeat marriage equality.

Opponents of legalized abortion are making a new push to convince African Americans that legal abortion is genocide being waged against black people. Anti-choice activist Day Gardner has said of Obama, “his skin may be black but he doesn’t care about black babies.” Along the same line, Rep. Trent Franks, who called President Obama “an enemy of humanity” at How to Take Back America, also touted his “Susan B. Anthony – Frederick Douglass Pre-Natal Non Discrimination Act,” which would ban abortions carried out on the basis of race or sex. He bragged that the bill would put members of the Congressional Black Caucus and other liberals in a bind, because they don’t want to support discrimination, but that if they do vote for the bill, they will be acknowledging that “there’s a person involved.”

Real Dangers
The election of Barack Obama as president was rightly considered a milestone in American history and evidence of progress in overcoming racial barriers. But that progress has undoubtedly unleashed a backlash against liberalism and the federal government generally and against Obama in particular- and some of that backlash is calculated to create or worsen racial resentment, a poison that can be extremely toxic.

The Southern Poverty Law Center recently reported on the revival of anti-government extremism in the form of the Patriot movement, and that movement’s ties to racial supremacists and xenophobes:

The original movement also had its mainstream backers, but they were largely confined to talk radio; today, Beck is just one of the well-known cable TV news personalities to air fictitious conspiracies and other unlikely Patriot ideas. CNN’s Lou Dobbs has treated the so-called Aztlan conspiracy as a bona fide concern and questioned the validity of Obama’s birth certificate despite his own network’s definitive debunking of that claim. On MSNBC, commentator Pat Buchanan suggested recently that white Americans are now suffering “exactly what was done to black folks.” On FOX News, regular contributor Dick Morris said, “Those crazies in Montana who say, ‘We’re going to kill ATF agents because the U.N.’s going to take over’ – well, they’re beginning to have a case.”

Also in the SPLC report:

A key difference this time is that the federal government – the entity that almost the entire radical right views as its primary enemy – is headed by a black man. That, coupled with high levels of non-white immigration and a decline in the percentage of whites overall in America, has helped to racialize the Patriot movement, which in the past was not primarily motivated by race hate. One result has been a remarkable rash of domestic terror incidents since the presidential campaign, most of them related to anger over the election of Barack Obama.

Indeed, the threat of violence is only just below the surface. At the How to Take Back America conference, it was suggested that “the Second Amendment” would be the best response to government plans to force people to take H1N1 vaccine or to quarantine people with flu. In another workshop about recognizing the signs of living under communism and fascism, people were exhorted to buy more guns and ammunition. When someone asked how to respond if the government tried to take them, the answer shouted by one participant was “one bullet at a time.”

Just this month, the Boston Globe reported on an internal Secret Service report on a record number of threats against the president:

The unprecedented number of death threats against President Obama, a rise in racist hate groups, and a new wave of antigovernment fervor threaten to overwhelm the US Secret Service, according to government officials and reports, raising new questions about the 144-year-old agency’s overall mission.

Conclusion
Republican strategist and commentator Pat Buchanan has complained that presidential candidate John McCain didn’t “drape Jeremiah Wright around the neck of Barack Obama, as Lee Atwater draped Willie Horton around the neck of Michael Dukakis.” The media would have howled, he said, but McCain might be president. Many right-wing pundits and political leaders seem to have taken Buchanan’s ideas to heart: no accusation about President Obama, no conspiracy theory about his administration’s actions, no inflammatory charges designed to fan racial resentment seem to be beyond the pale. The time to start holding these racial arsonists accountable is now, before the anger they are stoking leads to irreversible acts of violence.




and there are more articles on this at:


https://www.rightwingwatch.org/report/t ... race-card/



Interesting how nobody back then said the unpatriotic right wing painted itself into a corner.

Furthermore, when the delusional right wing is confronted with a truth it fears it immediately labels its opponents as "commies" and other such BS. Again, this hate and labelling never has been a problem for the radical far right.
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a fan wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:17 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 pm The larger point which escaped you is once again Democrats are boxing themselves into the corner of mayhem and lawlessness bc Everyone’s a racist.
Uh oh. Seems you forgot about your whole "Innocence Project" schtick. Innocent until proven guilty went right out the window for this man, eh? Boy, that was fast, Pete.
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a fan wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:17 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 pm The larger point which escaped you is once again Democrats are boxing themselves into the corner of mayhem and lawlessness bc Everyone’s a racist.
Uh oh. Seems you forgot about your whole "Innocence Project" schtick. Innocent until proven guilty went right out the window for this man, eh? Boy, that was fast, Pete.


Do you ever take an L, when you’re down like this? There’s zero way you’re easy to be married to.

Ok. Recap. A clearly disturbed man wielding a machete enters a Portland laundromat, walks up to one woman folding her clothes and slashed her across the face, another woman walks over to help and the man then slashed her across the arm, then walks out the door. All caught on tape. Clear tape.

a fan requires more context. Sometimes a cigar is a cigar, man. Geez. :roll:

By the way, The Innocence Project doesn’t exist to excuse criminality. It exists to clear unjustly jammed prisoners.

This video isn’t that.
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a fan wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:17 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 pm The larger point which escaped you is once again Democrats are boxing themselves into the corner of mayhem and lawlessness bc Everyone’s a racist.
Uh oh. Seems you forgot about your whole "Innocence Project" schtick. Innocent until proven guilty went right out the window for this man, eh? Boy, that was fast, Pete.
Well looky looky once again afan rushes in to protect the anarchist/marxist/criminal. Muddy up the story. Dirty the victim prop up the perp! Insult the messenger.

But when an alleged perp (or victim) is a law abiding citizen/cop/or government agent not so much give for afan. Any opinion contrary is denegarated Some kinda "Schtick" and devalued.

This must be just more much ado about nothing.
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/07/19/p ... r-protest/

You and your gang should be pleased Michelle Maulkin and your states Minority leader (an evil republican) got knocked around the stage a bit at that rally.

Serves them right. D*mn conservatives.
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Oh just some peaceful moms setting fire to a federal courthouse.

Move along. Nothing to see here.

https://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/12 ... 28097?s=21
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6ftstick wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:19 am
a fan wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:17 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 pm The larger point which escaped you is once again Democrats are boxing themselves into the corner of mayhem and lawlessness bc Everyone’s a racist.
Uh oh. Seems you forgot about your whole "Innocence Project" schtick. Innocent until proven guilty went right out the window for this man, eh? Boy, that was fast, Pete.
Well looky looky once again afan rushes in to protect the anarchist/marxist/criminal. Muddy up the story. Dirty the victim prop up the perp! Insult the messenger.
I'm doing no such thing, and you know it. I'm making fun of Pete and his hypocrisy. When we're discussing Republicans like General Flynn, he explains to us that we just don't understand how corrupt the American Justice system is....and that even a guilty man isn't really guilty. And citizens are presumed innocent until proven guilty. And even when they plead guilty-----that still doesn't count.

Petes' view, of course, only applies to Republican felons.
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Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:11 am Do you ever take an L, when you’re down like this? There’s zero way you’re easy to be married to.

Ok. Recap. A clearly disturbed man wielding a machete enters a Portland laundromat, walks up to one woman folding her clothes and slashed her across the face, another woman walks over to help and the man then slashed her across the arm, then walks out the door. All caught on tape. Clear tape.

a fan requires more context.
Yep. I need to know who the man is, where this was filmed, when it was filmed, and a mess of other information. I know, I know. I should be like you, and believe anything "some guy on the internet" tells me. That's a much better way to go through life, Pete.
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6ftstick wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:19 am
a fan wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:17 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 pm The larger point which escaped you is once again Democrats are boxing themselves into the corner of mayhem and lawlessness bc Everyone’s a racist.
Uh oh. Seems you forgot about your whole "Innocence Project" schtick. Innocent until proven guilty went right out the window for this man, eh? Boy, that was fast, Pete.
Well looky looky once again afan rushes in to protect the anarchist/marxist/criminal. Muddy up the story. Dirty the victim prop up the perp! Insult the messenger.

But when an alleged perp (or victim) is a law abiding citizen/cop/or government agent not so much give for afan. Any opinion contrary is denegarated Some kinda "Schtick" and devalued.

This must be just more much ado about nothing.
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/07/19/p ... r-protest/

You and your gang should be pleased Michelle Maulkin and your states Minority leader (an evil republican) got knocked around the stage a bit at that rally.

Serves them right. D*mn conservatives.


I didn't see that Denver mob riot before. Most Dems here will ignore, as it is yet one more example of how the party is anti-American.

What has gotten into Democrats in this country? I think TDS has pushed many over the edge, exposing them for the Marxists many are. Add in their unemployment and some other external variables such as the Party apparatus egging their youth brigade on, it's a firestorm.

Can you imagine taking the time out of your day to attend an anti-police rally, and then actually feeling so energized that you punch the pro-cop attendees? What kind of lunacy does that necessitate? I could understand if you had been unfairly arrested by a rogue cop and prosecuted by a rogue prosecutor, but thousands is more a collective psychosis. This crowd screams like little girls at a Menudo concert...all in unison, about how they hate cops and hate America. That is the youth brigade of the Democratic party.

The loons of this country are squarely in one party. And eventually, unless someone halts the momentum, that party will take great pride in burning the American flag...a woke virtue signal to its voters that they hate American just like their voters do. What's more concerning is the Fanlax Dems who don't seem to mind this at all. Makes me wonder.
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portland has a riot, and even the mayor got a taste of the pepper spray: https://www.forbes.com/sites/isabeltogo ... 873323589e

the movement seeks to erase anything that may be reminiscent of, or supportive of, slavery, such as a rectangular cloth or sculpted metals (which i agree with of course). however, for the storied humans who actually kept people in bondage, some are just ok (?).

why harsher treatment for the inanimate objects than the racist slaveholders? is that an unfair question, given the destruction?

and that's why i think the movement will lose steam- those who ask questions will realize it's not well thought out and largely about rage & convenience.
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If someone wanted to graffitti over the BLM grafitti on the streets, would this be condoned?
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(CNN)A Virginia high school named for Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee will be renamed to honor the late US Rep. John Lewis, effective this fall, the local school board said Thursday.

The Fairfax County School Board held a one-month period of public comment on possible new names, and held a virtual town hall meeting and a public hearing, before voting to change the school's name Thursday to John R. Lewis High School.

"The name Robert E. Lee is forever connected to the Confederacy, and Confederate values are ones that do not align with our community," said school board member Tamara Derenak Kaufax, who had proposed the name change, according to a news release from Fairfax County Public Schools.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/us/rober ... index.html

Good move. Robert E. Lee was a racist and a traitor who, frankly, should have been tried for treason and executed following the Civil War. His sullied name and “Confederate values” should have been buried long ago.

John Lewis is a genuine American hero. Maybe Washington and Lee should consider changing its name to John Lewis University.

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That's rather sexist, why not Earhart & Tubman U?
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Not in America but this is just nuts.
This would ever happen to a white guy?
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Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

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kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:49 pm If someone wanted to graffitti over the BLM grafitti on the streets, would this be condoned?
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Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

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DMac wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:36 am That's rather sexist, why not Earhart & Tubman U?
now THAT'S a hard question... are we all in on this, or not?
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Re: Virginia High School Renamed After John Lewis

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DocBarrister wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:27 am (CNN)A Virginia high school named for Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee will be renamed to honor the late US Rep. John Lewis, effective this fall, the local school board said Thursday.

The Fairfax County School Board held a one-month period of public comment on possible new names, and held a virtual town hall meeting and a public hearing, before voting to change the school's name Thursday to John R. Lewis High School.

"The name Robert E. Lee is forever connected to the Confederacy, and Confederate values are ones that do not align with our community," said school board member Tamara Derenak Kaufax, who had proposed the name change, according to a news release from Fairfax County Public Schools.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/us/rober ... index.html

Good move. Robert E. Lee was a racist and a traitor who, frankly, should have been tried for treason and executed following the Civil War. His sullied name and “Confederate values” should have been buried long ago.

John Lewis is a genuine American hero. Maybe Washington and Lee should consider changing its name to John Lewis University.

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I don't care if you name your car the General Lee, if your college is named Washington and Lee, or if you live in Lee County Florida. Also, I don't care if you live in Leningrad, Stalingrad, or Intercourse, Pennsylvania. In fact, no normal human being does, about any of this. Lifes to live, bills to pay, jobs to produce, children to raise, and Florida women to love; that is what a normal human being is about.
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