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Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 2:35 pm
by Peter Brown
njbill wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 2:10 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 9:47 am My prediction is whoever wins between Biden and Trump, that person will not last 4 years, Biden because of health.
So which is it for Trump, then? Impeachment and conviction? Resignation? Assassination?


I don't think he will last because I don't think he wants to go the full 8. He'll insist that his then-VP (could be Pence, could be someone else) cover his arse if the s hits the fan, that I have zero doubt about.

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 2:36 pm
by dislaxxic
tech37 wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 9:00 am Has it become too late for some fearless patriot to step forward and save us all from the dubious Trump/Biden election outcome?

Any ideas? Mark Cuban's name was mentioned a while back. Is it still possible for someone like Cuban to enter the race?
Bill Weld and Mark Sanford are already running as Republicans. Just sayin'..

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Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 2:39 pm
by Peter Brown
dislaxxic wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 2:36 pm
tech37 wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 9:00 am Has it become too late for some fearless patriot to step forward and save us all from the dubious Trump/Biden election outcome?

Any ideas? Mark Cuban's name was mentioned a while back. Is it still possible for someone like Cuban to enter the race?
Bill Weld and Mark Sanford are already running as Republicans. Just sayin'..

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Hey I like Mark Sanford.,..he's a good dude and I happen to know him!

But he has no shot as you know. If we all want to vote for him, count me in!

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 2:42 pm
by njbill
Peter Brown wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 2:39 pm Hey I like Mark Sanford.,..he's a good dude and I happen to know him!
Hiking buddy?

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 2:49 pm
by Peter Brown
njbill wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 2:42 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 2:39 pm Hey I like Mark Sanford.,..he's a good dude and I happen to know him!
Hiking buddy?


I'll give that a well-deserved lol :lol:

But ftr, both Jennifer and Maria are incredible women and we'd all be so lucky to have either in our lives.

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 2:49 pm
by ggait
Has it become too late for some fearless patriot to step forward and save us all from the dubious Trump/Biden election outcome?
There is no instrument capable of measuring how fast I'd vote for Cuban over these two clowns.....
Face palm. You guys are too smart to say things this dumb.

How many ECs did Gary Johnson, Jill Stein and Evan McMullin get in 2016? How'd that those third party votes (a high 6% of the popular vote) work out? How many ECs did Ralph Nader get? Or Ross Perot (who got 19% of the popular vote)? All combined -- ZERO.

Once you have the nominees selected, it is chicken or fish. Nothing else on the menu. Period, full stop.

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 2:51 pm
by njbill
I voted for John Anderson in 1980. My father never let me forget it.

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 2:57 pm
by a fan
ggait wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 2:49 pm
Has it become too late for some fearless patriot to step forward and save us all from the dubious Trump/Biden election outcome?
There is no instrument capable of measuring how fast I'd vote for Cuban over these two clowns.....
Face palm. You guys are too smart to say things this dumb.

How many ECs did Gary Johnson, Jill Stein and Evan McMullin get in 2016? How'd that those third party votes (a high 6% of the popular vote) work out? How many ECs did Ralph Nader get? Or Ross Perot (who got 19% of the popular vote)? All combined -- ZERO.

Once you have the nominees selected, it is chicken or fish. Nothing else on the menu. Period, full stop.
Oh, I agree.

I can't speak for tech, but I meant next time around. Cuban is obviously not running, but didn't rule out running next time. And he didn't say for which party.

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 8:33 pm
by Peter Brown
Let’s be honest: Democrats really don’t care if voting fraud occurs, in fact they want it to happen. Ballots by mail will cause all sorts of problems on both sides, ultimately resulting in chaos.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/democra ... r-mdcaniel

Now Twitter is ‘fact checking’ Trump’s tweets on Democratic vote harvesting.

Gonna end badly. Democrats don’t care about America.

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:03 am
by dislaxxic
Liars don't like to be called out

Tough turkey, bonehead...

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Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:42 am
by Peter Brown
Rep. Jerry Nadler in 2004:

“Paper ballots are extremely susceptible to fraud...I can show you experience which would make your head spin.”

Wow. He sure seems to have forgotten what previously made his head spin.

Partisan hackish clowns uninterested in American excellence.

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 8:50 am
by 6ftstick
Al Franken May Have Won His Senate Seat Through Voter Fraud

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pe ... oter-fraud

At least 341 convicted felons voted in Minneapolis's Hennepin County, the state's largest, and another 52 voted illegally in St. Paul's Ramsey County, the state's second largest. Dan McGrath, head of Minnesota Majority, says that only conclusive matches were included in the group's totals. The number of felons voting in those two counties alone exceeds Mr. Franken's victory margin.

The only question is how the integrity of U.S. elections can be maintained when senior policymakers inside the United States Department of Justice, through their actions and instructions to their staffs, do not seem to believe that voter fraud exists or, if it does, that it is not worth investigating.

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 9:05 am
by Peter Brown
6ftstick wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 8:50 am Al Franken May Have Won His Senate Seat Through Voter Fraud

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pe ... oter-fraud

At least 341 convicted felons voted in Minneapolis's Hennepin County, the state's largest, and another 52 voted illegally in St. Paul's Ramsey County, the state's second largest. Dan McGrath, head of Minnesota Majority, says that only conclusive matches were included in the group's totals. The number of felons voting in those two counties alone exceeds Mr. Franken's victory margin.

The only question is how the integrity of U.S. elections can be maintained when senior policymakers inside the United States Department of Justice, through their actions and instructions to their staffs, do not seem to believe that voter fraud exists or, if it does, that it is not worth investigating.


The whole purpose of voting by paper is to allow Democrats today yet one more avenue to cheat to win an election. Why this always ends miserably is eventually the other side (in this case, Republicans) returns fire with the same shenanigans, which ends in chaos. Democrats can not win fair elections at this stage as they are now the party of forced economic ruin, so they will do what they can to win.

You can envision so many opportunities to cheat with paper ballots as to be comical. I can see extra ballots (wrong address, deceased resident, etc...) being pinned to apartment mailstop corkboards, and guys like ActBlue sending around volunteer criminals to fill them out. There will be zero way to verify signatures and no way to catch the cheats. Total chaos. Ir's what they want though; they do not care about more voting, they care about more fraudulent voting.

I am not sure how you stop it to be honest. At the state level, they can do what they want. The only way to stop it is to overwhelm the crooks with honest voters. Republicans = America, if it's not too obvious to you.

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 9:41 am
by youthathletics
:lol: :lol: Silly republicans on paper ballots......oops I mean democrats. If not for double standards they'd have not at all.

Nadler must also eat waffles. :lol: I suspect those arguing for paper ballots around here and crapping on Trump, might want to call Nadler and argue with him.

And yet Trump is the fall guy....he's only repeating what the left has argued. Either Trump is a democrat or the democrats are being played.



Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 11:15 am
by CU88
Recognize this for what it is- a serious threat to silence free speech that's critical of him under the fake auspice of "protecting it" by a facist who wants to be a dictator.

It's how every dictator has risen.

Wake up, it's not a joke, it's a threat.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Republicans feel that Social Media Platforms totally silence conservatives voices. We will strongly regulate, or close them down, before we can ever allow this to happen. We saw what they attempted to do, and failed, in 2016. We can’t let a more sophisticated version of that....
7:11 AM · May 27, 2020

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
replying to
@realDonaldTrump
....happen again. Just like we can’t let large scale Mail-In Ballots take root in our Country. It would be a free for all on cheating, forgery and the theft of Ballots. Whoever cheated the most would win. Likewise, Social Media. Clean up your act, NOW!!!!

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 11:53 am
by youthathletics
What is missing from your post? The usual.....the meat and potatoes.

He is saying this because Twitter has conveniently begun doing this exact thing. Nice post of omission. :lol:

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 12:14 pm
by a fan
Start you own platform. Problem solved.

In America, the owner of the press or platform makes the rules. And please-----let's get the Government in to regulate media, my Republican friends. Pretty please, with sugar on top! :lol:

I can't possibly think of ways that would backfire on Republican America. :lol:

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 12:37 pm
by holmes435
youthathletics wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 11:53 am What is missing from your post? The usual.....the meat and potatoes.

He is saying this because Twitter has conveniently begun doing this exact thing. Nice post of omission. :lol:

Trump: "blatant lie"
Twitter label underneath: "get the facts on this issue"

Trump: "CENSORSHIP!!!!!"

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 1:03 pm
by ggait
The whole purpose of voting by paper is to allow Democrats today yet one more avenue to cheat to win an election.
Petey -- let me give you a few actual facts. And then you can resume your fact-free, clueless, partisan, axe grinding unabated.

In 1992, 92% of the votes nation-wide were cast the old school way -- in person on election day. Down to 60% in 2016. Covid or no, that percentage will continue to drop in each upcoming election cycle. Old school could be the minority of votes cast in 2020. In person/election day voting may well disappear in our lifetimes. It is expensive, inconvenient, and not all that secure and fraud-free.

No voting system is perfect. But new school voting (soon to be the majority way of voting) is as reliable (or more reliable) as old school.

Studies show little evidence of partisan lean in new school voting methods. Mostly, new school voting favors the party that is better able to mobilize its voters to use the new school methods. For a long time, that actually favored the GOP. Because the GOP was very good at getting its older whiter voters to request absentee ballots. That's why Dem politicians in OR and WA initially opposed their universal mail-in election systems.

So the GOP ABSOLUTELY LOVES LOVES LOVES mail-in absentee voting because they think it favors them. They fear universal mail-in voting (UT, CO, WA, OR, HI) because they fear it makes it too easy for younger and darker voters to vote. But universal mail-in voting is eventually going to come to all states eventually. It is just better in every way.

Since there's more Dems than Reps, the GOP clings (with its cold dead hands) to every piece of our political system that allows the few to beat the many. Hence the focus on SCOTUS and judges, the US Senate, gerrymandering, voter ID, voter suppression, gutting the voting rights act, purging voter rolls, etc. etc. etc. Makes total sense -- if you are the minority you are not excited about anything that makes it more likely the majority will come out and vote.

So your conversation is completely disingenuous. It has less than zero to do with fraud. It is 100% about trying to increase the chances for your team to win the game. Which is fine and (unfortunately) the American way these days.

So I'd prefer you just own it -- that's fine. Rather than pee-ing on our legs and telling us it is raining.

Re: 2020 Elections - CoronaPause

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 1:09 pm
by youthathletics
a fan wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 12:14 pm Start you own platform. Problem solved.
Glad you agree that what they are doing is inherently wrong, but in their discretion. ;)