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Congratulations to the Terps on having five players named ti Team USA, selections that reflect how dominant the program has been under Tillman.

molo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:51 am Congratulations to the Terps on having five players named ti Team USA, selections that reflect how dominant the program has been under Tillman.

Well if Tillman was USA coach you would have one more, ONeil over Logan W is a joke.

MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:13 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:19 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:41 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:04 pm

MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:07 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:13 am

MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:53 am

wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:24 pm

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Wheels wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:17 pm

MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:09 pm

You’ve never seen him play? Nice. He has not been an impact player. And college 40 times are not trustworthy.

Wait...not an impact player? Second on the team in tackles (behind his safety battery-mate Beau Brade) isn't an impact player?

While Maryland's defense wasn't elite, 52nd in the nation isn't exactly bad (0.4 average yards per game separated LSU, Texas, and MD).

And two picks. He's a pretty good DB on a perfectly okay P5 defense that also has a history of putting pretty good DBs into the league the last decade or so. Wasn't saying he'd be a first rounder but he'd have a shot at getting drafted with another two years of improvement and that's different gravy than lax

but terpitude hasn't heard any buzz.

I’m not the one saying he’s going to get drafted based on… well, pretty much nothing at all. I have, however, watched most of their games, and he is not an impact player.

Since 2011, there have been less than two Terps drafted per class. He is not one of the top two players in the Terps sophomore class.

that's funny, because at no point did i say he'd be drafted. we are discussing trader's evaluation of his pro prospects, and how that may affect a decision to play lacrosse. i'm not in the war room like you are, but i suspect teams don't all get together and take an average number of guys from every school from the last decade.

go ahead and pm me with a wager on whether he signs to a camp.

Regarding the discussion, yes we are, and I’m just saying there are really no indications he’s either planning his future around playing in the NFL, or that he’s NFL caliber. And my point in bringing up the draft numbers is that a very small number of players ever make it to the pros, particulalry from schools in Maryland’s tier. Almost all of them have been identified as pro prospects pretty early in their collegiate careers.

The level of discourse and collective knowledge on this board as relates to lax is impressive. I learn something everytime I frequent it. I wonder what the response would be if a poster said, “there’s this LSM on Villanova who has 50 ground balls, and is 6’ 2”, 230. I’ve never seen him play, he hasn’t made an all-america team, but he’s got a great shot at making a PLL roster. There’s a good chance he’s going to forego cross country to do fall ball even though he was a top-ten runner in high school.”

Regarding your offer to wager, I don’t make bets with random (somewhat angry?) people on internet message boards.

that's weird, i thought you were the one hoo chimed 1st with the sarcastic b.s. in the midst of an otherwise normal back and forth. i thought that was what we were doing now? u don't seem to like it too much on your end, tho? hopefully, that hypo discussion wouldn't be some ******* turning the discussion salty for no reason, but hey! you do you.

you should see the 2 safeties my squad put into nfl camps, one on a roster, after a record-setting (and not in a good way) defensive campaign in 2021. & i see you're still using straw men for stuff i never said, i guess it's now making a roster. kudos.

n.p., we can have a trusted 3rd party hold the $$ as u feel so strongly about the lack of prospect. no worries... u don't have to reply on this wager thingy again... i see you.

Dang dude, chill out Moral Terpitude is a level headed and fair poster. He disagrees with you on a point nobody can win for at least 18 months. Move on, this isn't a bar fight.

meh, it's not my obligation to respond to not-so-friendly snark with indifference. maybe i will, maybe won't. generally, i allow the counterparty to set the rules for the road. if he's okay with standing down on his rules here, great. if not...

don't have an issue with terpitude's stance on trader's nfl prospects at all. he might with mine and that's fine.

Fair enough. I was snarky, though I’d argue it was well earned. Anyways, I was wrong on Bernhardt, and I hope I’m wrong with Trader as well - always good to have more Terps representing in the league. And… back to our regularly scheduled programming.

you just can't help yourself. moving on, i'll explain:
- speed is uber important in the niffel as you know, not always if it can be overcome in other ways, but it's a door opener. especially at safety for lighter guys. at corner, it's close to a requirement and as you say, jag.
- teams covet guys that work to get better and aren't going to go all hollywood with 7 and then 8 figure salaries (film rat). i watched a corner for the belichick's pats read a play to the flat like he drew it up and walk in for a pick 6 sunday. the final lateral play notwithstanding, that's valuable to coaches.
- true sophomore, in the b1g, playing a new position (he was a corner) full time and having some degree of success.
- most importantly, the key is not whether you or i think he has a shot, it's whether trader thinks he has a shot. that dictates everything. even as he may decide playing lax this year may help him or not hurt, or he just wants to do it, etc. i'll make another prediction... he won't play lax after his senior year football season.
- i will fully defer to you on his ultimate talent level to date. i literally offered unsolicited that i haven't seen him play. what i said was on his trajectory and measurables, he'll be in a camp. that's all. sans injury, that's what i expect and that's framed as to what trader could probably now expect. a shot.

i don't expect you to agree with me.

not that it matters because it's all future unknowables, but i had bernhardt pegged as signing to a camp and a v good chance at making a practice squad (for experience) if he had hands and could get off the line. because intangibles gave him that chance even with the nicks of experience and speed (and falcons in rebuild). initially making the 53 man exceeded that, though he drifted back and now has to earn it off the bubble.

lorin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:03 am

molo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:51 am Congratulations to the Terps on having five players named ti Team USA, selections that reflect how dominant the program has been under Tillman.

Well if Tillman was USA coach you would have one more, ONeil over Logan W is a joke.

usa team, it must be a day ending in y. was he one of the final cuts?

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:36 pm

lorin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:03 am

molo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:51 am Congratulations to the Terps on having five players named ti Team USA, selections that reflect how dominant the program has been under Tillman.

Well if Tillman was USA coach you would have one more, ONeil over Logan W is a joke.

usa team, it must be a day ending in y. was he one of the final cuts?

No clue. All cuts made at same time.

Pretty crowded with lefty attackmen in contrast to last time, when Crotty was the only lefty offensive player.

molo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:56 pm Pretty crowded with lefty attackmen in contrast to last time, when Crotty was the only lefty offensive player.

If you're going to take a college player who can stress defenses in lots of ways, I'd take Shelly over O'Neill. Two handed threat. Elite athleticism. High assist rate. Lower usage (doesn't need the ball in his stick). Can play up top or down low.

Bertrand and O'Neill, IMO, are kinda redundant pieces. Big, strong, primarily lefty wing players. If you wanted another lefty mismatch who also doesn't require the ball a lot to make a big impact on the game, Wisnauskas is that guy. O'Neill takes a lot of shots, which is probably asked of him despite being surrounded by a lot of talent at Duke, but his assist rate is pretty low for someone with the ball in his stick so often. Not sure how well that fits on an offense of professional stars.

O'Neill looks like a coach's pick. With a 23-man roster, I'd have liked to see a little more multidimensional threat. I'm also surprised Pannell made the team over Ament. Like Sowers, Ament's speed and change of direction is nearly impossible to stop. But Pannell is a bigger body.

O'Neill looks like a coach's pick. With a 23-man roster, I'd have liked to see a little more multidimensional threat. I'm also surprised Pannell made the team over Ament. Like Sowers, Ament's speed and change of direction is nearly impossible to stop. But Pannell is a bigger body.

One of these years,

Ament, Moore, Rambo, Sowers at attack for the US
national team

10stone5 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:50 pm

O'Neill looks like a coach's pick. With a 23-man roster, I'd have liked to see a little more multidimensional threat. I'm also surprised Pannell made the team over Ament. Like Sowers, Ament's speed and change of direction is nearly impossible to stop. But Pannell is a bigger body.

One of these years,

Ament, Moore, Rambo, Sowers at attack for the US
national team

SE PA represent!

Wheels wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:35 pm

molo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:56 pm Pretty crowded with lefty attackmen in contrast to last time, when Crotty was the only lefty offensive player.

If you're going to take a college player who can stress defenses in lots of ways, I'd take Shelly over O'Neill. Two handed threat. Elite athleticism. High assist rate. Lower usage (doesn't need the ball in his stick). Can play up top or down low.

Bertrand and O'Neill, IMO, are kinda redundant pieces. Big, strong, primarily lefty wing players. If you wanted another lefty mismatch who also doesn't require the ball a lot to make a big impact on the game, Wisnauskas is that guy. O'Neill takes a lot of shots, which is probably asked of him despite being surrounded by a lot of talent at Duke, but his assist rate is pretty low for someone with the ball in his stick so often. Not sure how well that fits on an offense of professional stars.

O'Neill looks like a coach's pick. With a 23-man roster, I'd have liked to see a little more multidimensional threat. I'm also surprised Pannell made the team over Ament. Like Sowers, Ament's speed and change of direction is nearly impossible to stop. But Pannell is a bigger body.

I am thinking O'Neil was promise during the recruiting process a spot on the USA team. Again good player in college not great so far. All the media talks about how important stats are when picking AA team his stats 2022 12th in GPG, 23rd points per game, 90th in assist per game.

Logan 4th in goals per game, 3rd in points per game, 15th in assist per game, Tewaaraton winner, National champion, First pick in PLL, and a lefty please tell me what i am missing.

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:16 am

Wheels wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:35 pm

molo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:56 pm Pretty crowded with lefty attackmen in contrast to last time, when Crotty was the only lefty offensive player.

If you're going to take a college player who can stress defenses in lots of ways, I'd take Shelly over O'Neill. Two handed threat. Elite athleticism. High assist rate. Lower usage (doesn't need the ball in his stick). Can play up top or down low.

Bertrand and O'Neill, IMO, are kinda redundant pieces. Big, strong, primarily lefty wing players. If you wanted another lefty mismatch who also doesn't require the ball a lot to make a big impact on the game, Wisnauskas is that guy. O'Neill takes a lot of shots, which is probably asked of him despite being surrounded by a lot of talent at Duke, but his assist rate is pretty low for someone with the ball in his stick so often. Not sure how well that fits on an offense of professional stars.

O'Neill looks like a coach's pick. With a 23-man roster, I'd have liked to see a little more multidimensional threat. I'm also surprised Pannell made the team over Ament. Like Sowers, Ament's speed and change of direction is nearly impossible to stop. But Pannell is a bigger body.

I am thinking O'Neil was promise during the recruiting process a spot on the USA team. Again good player in college not great so far. All the media talks about how important stats are when picking AA team his stats 2022 12th in GPG, 23rd points per game, 90th in assist per game.

Logan 4th in goals per game, 3rd in points per game, 15th in assist per game, Tewaaraton winner, National champion, First pick in PLL, and a lefty please tell me what i am missing.

you weren't at tryouts? it's not a draft. not saying the system is perfect as there'll probably always be conflicts of interest, but if they're holding tryouts... a lot to most should be on how guys do there.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:15 am

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:16 am

Wheels wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:35 pm

molo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:56 pm Pretty crowded with lefty attackmen in contrast to last time, when Crotty was the only lefty offensive player.

If you're going to take a college player who can stress defenses in lots of ways, I'd take Shelly over O'Neill. Two handed threat. Elite athleticism. High assist rate. Lower usage (doesn't need the ball in his stick). Can play up top or down low.

Bertrand and O'Neill, IMO, are kinda redundant pieces. Big, strong, primarily lefty wing players. If you wanted another lefty mismatch who also doesn't require the ball a lot to make a big impact on the game, Wisnauskas is that guy. O'Neill takes a lot of shots, which is probably asked of him despite being surrounded by a lot of talent at Duke, but his assist rate is pretty low for someone with the ball in his stick so often. Not sure how well that fits on an offense of professional stars.

O'Neill looks like a coach's pick. With a 23-man roster, I'd have liked to see a little more multidimensional threat. I'm also surprised Pannell made the team over Ament. Like Sowers, Ament's speed and change of direction is nearly impossible to stop. But Pannell is a bigger body.

I am thinking O'Neil was promise during the recruiting process a spot on the USA team. Again good player in college not great so far. All the media talks about how important stats are when picking AA team his stats 2022 12th in GPG, 23rd points per game, 90th in assist per game.

Logan 4th in goals per game, 3rd in points per game, 15th in assist per game, Tewaaraton winner, National champion, First pick in PLL, and a lefty please tell me what i am missing.

you weren't at tryouts? it's not a draft. not saying the system is perfect as there'll probably always be conflicts of interest, but if they're holding tryouts... a lot to most should be on how guys do there.

Thats the funniest thing I heard all day, Sowers, Pannell miss first tryout.

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:19 am

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:15 am

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:16 am

Wheels wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:35 pm

molo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:56 pm Pretty crowded with lefty attackmen in contrast to last time, when Crotty was the only lefty offensive player.

If you're going to take a college player who can stress defenses in lots of ways, I'd take Shelly over O'Neill. Two handed threat. Elite athleticism. High assist rate. Lower usage (doesn't need the ball in his stick). Can play up top or down low.

Bertrand and O'Neill, IMO, are kinda redundant pieces. Big, strong, primarily lefty wing players. If you wanted another lefty mismatch who also doesn't require the ball a lot to make a big impact on the game, Wisnauskas is that guy. O'Neill takes a lot of shots, which is probably asked of him despite being surrounded by a lot of talent at Duke, but his assist rate is pretty low for someone with the ball in his stick so often. Not sure how well that fits on an offense of professional stars.

O'Neill looks like a coach's pick. With a 23-man roster, I'd have liked to see a little more multidimensional threat. I'm also surprised Pannell made the team over Ament. Like Sowers, Ament's speed and change of direction is nearly impossible to stop. But Pannell is a bigger body.

I am thinking O'Neil was promise during the recruiting process a spot on the USA team. Again good player in college not great so far. All the media talks about how important stats are when picking AA team his stats 2022 12th in GPG, 23rd points per game, 90th in assist per game.

Logan 4th in goals per game, 3rd in points per game, 15th in assist per game, Tewaaraton winner, National champion, First pick in PLL, and a lefty please tell me what i am missing.

you weren't at tryouts? it's not a draft. not saying the system is perfect as there'll probably always be conflicts of interest, but if they're holding tryouts... a lot to most should be on how guys do there.

Thats the funniest thing I heard all day, Sowers, Pannell miss first tryout.

did they miss all of the tryouts? i'm assuming they missed them because they were hurt or indisposed. so their "tryout" starts when available. used to be a long weekend, but that's not how they do it nowadays. it sounds like they don't do it based on votes and stuff in college. good.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:31 am

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:19 am

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:15 am

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:16 am

Wheels wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:35 pm

molo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:56 pm Pretty crowded with lefty attackmen in contrast to last time, when Crotty was the only lefty offensive player.

If you're going to take a college player who can stress defenses in lots of ways, I'd take Shelly over O'Neill. Two handed threat. Elite athleticism. High assist rate. Lower usage (doesn't need the ball in his stick). Can play up top or down low.

Bertrand and O'Neill, IMO, are kinda redundant pieces. Big, strong, primarily lefty wing players. If you wanted another lefty mismatch who also doesn't require the ball a lot to make a big impact on the game, Wisnauskas is that guy. O'Neill takes a lot of shots, which is probably asked of him despite being surrounded by a lot of talent at Duke, but his assist rate is pretty low for someone with the ball in his stick so often. Not sure how well that fits on an offense of professional stars.

O'Neill looks like a coach's pick. With a 23-man roster, I'd have liked to see a little more multidimensional threat. I'm also surprised Pannell made the team over Ament. Like Sowers, Ament's speed and change of direction is nearly impossible to stop. But Pannell is a bigger body.

I am thinking O'Neil was promise during the recruiting process a spot on the USA team. Again good player in college not great so far. All the media talks about how important stats are when picking AA team his stats 2022 12th in GPG, 23rd points per game, 90th in assist per game.

Logan 4th in goals per game, 3rd in points per game, 15th in assist per game, Tewaaraton winner, National champion, First pick in PLL, and a lefty please tell me what i am missing.

you weren't at tryouts? it's not a draft. not saying the system is perfect as there'll probably always be conflicts of interest, but if they're holding tryouts... a lot to most should be on how guys do there.

Thats the funniest thing I heard all day, Sowers, Pannell miss first tryout.

did they miss all of the tryouts? i'm assuming they missed them because they were hurt or indisposed. so their "tryout" starts when available. used to be a long weekend, but that's not how they do it nowadays. it sounds like they don't do it based on votes and stuff in college. good.

a lot to most should be on how guys do there.
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Please read your statement, so clearly it had nothing to do with tryouts they better their chances my missing tryouts. can't look bad if your not there. someone needs to call this BS out. I watched Handley play for 4 years no one can tell me O'Neil, or Bertrand is better then Handley.

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:40 am

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:31 am

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:19 am

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:15 am

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:16 am

Wheels wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:35 pm

molo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:56 pm Pretty crowded with lefty attackmen in contrast to last time, when Crotty was the only lefty offensive player.

If you're going to take a college player who can stress defenses in lots of ways, I'd take Shelly over O'Neill. Two handed threat. Elite athleticism. High assist rate. Lower usage (doesn't need the ball in his stick). Can play up top or down low.

Bertrand and O'Neill, IMO, are kinda redundant pieces. Big, strong, primarily lefty wing players. If you wanted another lefty mismatch who also doesn't require the ball a lot to make a big impact on the game, Wisnauskas is that guy. O'Neill takes a lot of shots, which is probably asked of him despite being surrounded by a lot of talent at Duke, but his assist rate is pretty low for someone with the ball in his stick so often. Not sure how well that fits on an offense of professional stars.

O'Neill looks like a coach's pick. With a 23-man roster, I'd have liked to see a little more multidimensional threat. I'm also surprised Pannell made the team over Ament. Like Sowers, Ament's speed and change of direction is nearly impossible to stop. But Pannell is a bigger body.

I am thinking O'Neil was promise during the recruiting process a spot on the USA team. Again good player in college not great so far. All the media talks about how important stats are when picking AA team his stats 2022 12th in GPG, 23rd points per game, 90th in assist per game.

Logan 4th in goals per game, 3rd in points per game, 15th in assist per game, Tewaaraton winner, National champion, First pick in PLL, and a lefty please tell me what i am missing.

you weren't at tryouts? it's not a draft. not saying the system is perfect as there'll probably always be conflicts of interest, but if they're holding tryouts... a lot to most should be on how guys do there.

Thats the funniest thing I heard all day, Sowers, Pannell miss first tryout.

did they miss all of the tryouts? i'm assuming they missed them because they were hurt or indisposed. so their "tryout" starts when available. used to be a long weekend, but that's not how they do it nowadays. it sounds like they don't do it based on votes and stuff in college. good.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:31 am a lot to most should be on how guys do there.

Please read your statement, so clearly it had nothing to do with tryouts they better their chances my missing tryouts. can't look bad if your not there. someone needs to call this BS out. I watched Handley play for 4 years no one can tell me O'Neil, or Bertrand is better then Handley.

i don't need to read my statement, i wrote it i know what it says. the conclusion of "clearly it has nothing to do with tryouts" i believe is wholly inaccurate, imo. their tryout was later (i already said that).

a guy trying out may not love that little quirk, so i get what you're saying. but they've had multiple rounds (over years?). the players (unless things have changed 180°) want it selected on the field. not based on past accolades or what fans think. and that includes the guys with the best accolades.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:51 am

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:40 am

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:31 am

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:19 am

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:15 am

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:16 am

Wheels wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:35 pm

molo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:56 pm Pretty crowded with lefty attackmen in contrast to last time, when Crotty was the only lefty offensive player.

If you're going to take a college player who can stress defenses in lots of ways, I'd take Shelly over O'Neill. Two handed threat. Elite athleticism. High assist rate. Lower usage (doesn't need the ball in his stick). Can play up top or down low.

Bertrand and O'Neill, IMO, are kinda redundant pieces. Big, strong, primarily lefty wing players. If you wanted another lefty mismatch who also doesn't require the ball a lot to make a big impact on the game, Wisnauskas is that guy. O'Neill takes a lot of shots, which is probably asked of him despite being surrounded by a lot of talent at Duke, but his assist rate is pretty low for someone with the ball in his stick so often. Not sure how well that fits on an offense of professional stars.

O'Neill looks like a coach's pick. With a 23-man roster, I'd have liked to see a little more multidimensional threat. I'm also surprised Pannell made the team over Ament. Like Sowers, Ament's speed and change of direction is nearly impossible to stop. But Pannell is a bigger body.

I am thinking O'Neil was promise during the recruiting process a spot on the USA team. Again good player in college not great so far. All the media talks about how important stats are when picking AA team his stats 2022 12th in GPG, 23rd points per game, 90th in assist per game.

Logan 4th in goals per game, 3rd in points per game, 15th in assist per game, Tewaaraton winner, National champion, First pick in PLL, and a lefty please tell me what i am missing.

you weren't at tryouts? it's not a draft. not saying the system is perfect as there'll probably always be conflicts of interest, but if they're holding tryouts... a lot to most should be on how guys do there.

Thats the funniest thing I heard all day, Sowers, Pannell miss first tryout.

did they miss all of the tryouts? i'm assuming they missed them because they were hurt or indisposed. so their "tryout" starts when available. used to be a long weekend, but that's not how they do it nowadays. it sounds like they don't do it based on votes and stuff in college. good.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:31 am a lot to most should be on how guys do there.

Please read your statement, so clearly it had nothing to do with tryouts they better their chances my missing tryouts. can't look bad if your not there. someone needs to call this BS out. I watched Handley play for 4 years no one can tell me O'Neil, or Bertrand is better then Handley.

i don't need to read my statement, i wrote it i know what it says. the conclusion of "clearly it has nothing to do with tryouts" i believe is wholly inaccurate, imo. their tryout was later (i already said that).

a guy trying out may not love that little quirk, so i get what you're saying. but they've had multiple rounds (over years?). the players (unless things have changed 180°) want it selected on the field. not based on past accolades or what fans think. and that includes the guys with the best accolades.

So if the PLL draft is tomorrow all names are in the mix. For some fun give me your draft order.

Sowers
Pannell
O'Neil
Bertrand
Connor Kelly
McArdle
Rambo
Schreiber
Conrad
Handley
Gray
Wiznaukas
Moore

not really loving the choice limitation.
schreiber
sowers/mcardle
kelly
moore
handley
wiznauskas
gray
conrad
rambo
pannell
bertrand
o'neill
some of that is based on age, some on mixing positions and skillsets @ att, redundancy.
would like drenner and anderson available. and some canadians and native americans if it's not usa team types.

O-Midfield is very thin, a ton pf pressure on Schrieber and if he is the least bit injured....that becomes devastating. Sowers is also injury prone in the big league and I'll guess the attack him hard. O'Neil hasn't seen a shot he doesn't like....he belongs on the Canadian roster for that reason ....I will argue he takes too many shots that cost the US games.

I do like the Schreiber/Kelly duo up top, both can be feeders, stretch shooters and hopefully open up the attack. Again, if one of those two go down...ouch.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:47 am not really loving the choice limitation.
schreiber
sowers/mcardle
kelly
moore
handley
wiznauskas
gray
conrad
rambo
pannell
bertrand
o'neill
some of that is based on age, some on mixing positions and skillsets @ att, redundancy.
would like drenner and anderson available. and some canadians and native americans if it's not usa team types.

I gave you who made team and who did not.

lorin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:08 am

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:47 am not really loving the choice limitation.
schreiber
sowers/mcardle
kelly
moore
handley
wiznauskas
gray
conrad
rambo
pannell
bertrand
o'neill
some of that is based on age, some on mixing positions and skillsets @ att, redundancy.
would like drenner and anderson available. and some canadians and native americans if it's not usa team types.

I gave you who made team and who did not.

got it. but there were more cuts than that? shellenberger. was nichtern trying out? anderson, drennan? ament was there, they always take one feeder type, tho i'd want sowers.