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jhu06 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:09 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:43 pm

pcowlax wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:37 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:03 pm From this morning....Penn Men’s Lacrosse Players: 'Our Perspective on the Spring'

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ing-/57303

A number of excellent points in there, nicely done by the team. Unfortunately, given the universal scientific and medical consensus that playing outdoor sports poses no risk to college students, they are trying to use rational arguments to sway an irrational decision. This makes for tough sledding but best of luck to them. There is one argument they raise (if I am reading it right) that is not going to be valid but only argues more for playing. They state that "cancelling another season would create another extra year for players, which would create complicated eligibility issues". While a few of them may now have an opportunity to play during a graduate year at an Ivy, they will not most certainly not be granted another "extra year" or any additional eligibility. That, in my mind, misguided NCAA decision last year was a one off. You will not get any extra years if you are not playing only because of the decision of your school while the rest of the sporting world has moved on.

My first inclination when reading it...they are doomed. Ain't no way in hell they are going to listen to students, especially if they ignored cash cow alum donors. IMO, they have an agenda....and athletics is in the way.

-First in a trumpian/blm environment a roster where the public school kids come from rye and darien says a lot about why the administrations are being pushed to rethink athletics.
-In that context which administrators have broadcast that mindset for awhile this piece/and this thread makes the donna martin graduates campaign look like the clinton-gore 92 war room. "Student athletes for justice" led by immigrant honors list cross country runners and womens basketball players focusing on their off court leadership in the classroom with mens lacrosse players involved, much easier sell than this.

TAV wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:37 pm The Ivy League has made their decision - it’s time to move on. As a parent of a current Harvard Junior (who I practically begged not to go), I could probably add a view insights or opinions, but I don’t want anyone “triggered”. No Ivy lax, BUT there are excellent teams and players ready, willing and able to display their craft. Enjoy!

Consistent with its commitment to safeguard the health and wellbeing of student-athletes, the greater campus community and general public, the Ivy League Council of Presidents has decided not to hold league competition or host league championships this spring."

AreaLax wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:10 pm They are officially out for the season

Consistent with its commitment to safeguard the health and wellbeing of student-athletes, the greater campus community and general public, the Ivy League Council of Presidents has decided not to hold league competition or host league championships this spring."

FannOLax wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:26 pm Okay, so no Ivy League conference games or IL Tourney. For Penn and other Ivy teams that might still be practicing, there is this: "If public health conditions substantially improve and if permitted by an institution, local non-conference competition may be allowed to occur this spring. These competitions will be subject to league stipulations and must remain consistent with institutional policies for comparable co-curricular activities, including applicable travel restrictions for on-campus students and university visitor policies." Not sure how realistic it might be to hope... probably better not to hope.
https://ivyleague.com/news/2021/2/18/ge ... ining.aspx

sanelaxparent wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm I'm disappointed as well that there won't be any Ivy competition or championships. I'm reading it that each team can judge whether, later in the season, they want to play local competition or games here and there. Not to say this is a good outcome, just wondering if teams will continue to practice or not?

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:56 pm

sanelaxparent wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm I'm disappointed as well that there won't be any Ivy competition or championships. I'm reading it that each team can judge whether, later in the season, they want to play local competition or games here and there. Not to say this is a good outcome, just wondering if teams will continue to practice or not?

Yes on practice. This has been a known possible (probable) outcome. Two lost seasons in a row is tough. Looking forward to the fall when things are closer to normal. Best of luck to the athletes.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:12 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:56 pm

sanelaxparent wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm I'm disappointed as well that there won't be any Ivy competition or championships. I'm reading it that each team can judge whether, later in the season, they want to play local competition or games here and there. Not to say this is a good outcome, just wondering if teams will continue to practice or not?

Yes on practice. This has been a known possible (probable) outcome. Two lost seasons in a row is tough. Looking forward to the fall when things are closer to normal. Best of luck to the athletes.

+1
It's too bad, frustrating for many, but not unexpected.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:12 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:56 pm

sanelaxparent wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm I'm disappointed as well that there won't be any Ivy competition or championships. I'm reading it that each team can judge whether, later in the season, they want to play local competition or games here and there. Not to say this is a good outcome, just wondering if teams will continue to practice or not?

Yes on practice. This has been a known possible (probable) outcome. Two lost seasons in a row is tough. Looking forward to the fall when things are closer to normal. Best of luck to the athletes.

+1
It's too bad, frustrating for many, but not unexpected.

calourie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:29 pm Surprise, surprise, the Ivy league is treating its' students athletes like all their other students, subjecting them to the same rules and restrictions during the time of Covid. It remains to be seen how accommodating the institutions will be toward their athletes as regards graduate school enrollment now that they have indicated they will tolerate graduate play on the part of their athletes, as well as what eligibility will remain for those athletes who have remained enrolled and might see a very limited local OOC schedule later this year. As far as I know only Yale has totally canceled its' 2021 season outright with 40 out of 48 lacrosse players non-enrolling this spring in order to circumvent any eligibility issues provided they are allowed to reenroll next spring. I imagine others will follow suit unless further guidelines are forthcoming.

calourie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:29 pm Surprise, surprise, the Ivy league is treating its' students athletes like all their other students, subjecting them to the same rules and restrictions during the time of Covid. It remains to be seen how accommodating the institutions will be toward their athletes as regards graduate school enrollment now that they have indicated they will tolerate graduate play on the part of their athletes, as well as what eligibility will remain for those athletes who have remained enrolled and might see a very limited local OOC schedule later this year. As far as I know only Yale has totally canceled its' 2021 season outright with 40 out of 48 lacrosse players non-enrolling this spring in order to circumvent any eligibility issues provided they are allowed to reenroll next spring. I imagine others will follow suit unless further guidelines are forthcoming.