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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:31 pm
by foreverlax
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:41 am
Matnum PI wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:37 am I don't think so much about the Swedes, Joe, or Hillary. I do think about Trump. He's the current POTUS. And he lies an enormous amount. Including about the virus.
....lies about the death count???? ;)
Sure did...That was either the 2nd or 3rd lie.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:32 pm
by MDlaxfan76
Matnum PI wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:26 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:48 pm The media hid FDR's paralysis his entire Presidency.
Trump would be called a liar for trying to conceal it from the public.
How was FDR's messaging on the internment camps ?
Not just FDR. Literally all presidents lie. Most every, if not every, politician lies. It's just a reality of the industry. With this said, Trump's lying is not like most anything we've seen before. Certainly in my life time. Politicians have had bigger lies. but in terms of how blatant the lies are and how often they're shared, Trump is off the charts.
The "media hid FDR's paralysis"????
BS.

There was NO ONE who didn't know of FDR's physical issue.
The degree of pain he was in, probably not, but absolutely everyone knew he was in a wheel chair.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:34 pm
by ggait
Maybe a coffee filter?
Who knows -- couldn't hurt I guess.

But the thing proven to be best is a HEPA certified bag for your vaccum cleaner. If you have or can find one.

Definition: A “HEPA” Filter is a High Efficiency Particulate Air Filter. It is made from specially woven and treated fibers that filter very tiny particles out of the air. Many vacuum cleaners use HEPA Filter bags and these are what we will take apart and use for our masks.

NOT ANY VACUUM BAG WILL DO. Look for the HEPA label, stating that it is 99.97% effective for particles up to 0.3 microns. Bags that claim to filter out allergens are not suitable, as dust and pollen particles are way bigger than viruses.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:37 pm
by Trinity
No Dr Fauci today. When do we hear from Jared?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/us/p ... trump.html

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:40 pm
by MDlaxfan76
seacoaster wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:17 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:12 am
Kismet wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:49 am George Conway's take above and he isn't close to being a democrat. :lol: :lol: :lol:


George is no longer a Republican, either.

For the time being, his sole grift is being anti-Trump. He abandoned any pretense of having a core principle, reducing himself (as so many anti-Trump folks do) to what he professes to so dislike in Trump: a one-note, unprincipled opportunist.

Carry on.
Nearly completely false. No problem.
painfully so...somehow the only "core principle" that matters to Trump cultists is loyalty to Trump.

apparently that's a "principle"...anyone who opposes Trump, especially an actual life-long R, is a "unprincipled opportunist"...got it

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:48 pm
by Trinity
Federalists are flexible.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:50 pm
by youthathletics
ggait wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:34 pm
Maybe a coffee filter?
Who knows -- couldn't hurt I guess.

But the thing proven to be best is a HEPA certified bag for your vaccum cleaner. If you have or can find one.

Definition: A “HEPA” Filter is a High Efficiency Particulate Air Filter. It is made from specially woven and treated fibers that filter very tiny particles out of the air. Many vacuum cleaners use HEPA Filter bags and these are what we will take apart and use for our masks.

NOT ANY VACUUM BAG WILL DO. Look for the HEPA label, stating that it is 99.97% effective for particles up to 0.3 microns. Bags that claim to filter out allergens are not suitable, as dust and pollen particles are way bigger than viruses.
Same for higher end Air/Furnace Filters. I would advise inserting the product inside a sleeve of cloth, just to be safe(er).

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:51 pm
by MDlaxfan76
on the mask question, if your purpose is solely to prevent dispersion of droplets, anything is better than nothing.

And really no excuse for not at least trying to reduce dispersion.

But to protect oneself, best to use a well fitting mask designed to filter out low level particulate. Very important if in a high risk situation with a likelihood of exposure.

The mistake that was made for the past 8 weeks has been telling people not to wear masks at all because of the concern that would reduce supply for those most at risk, health care workers and first responders.

We certainly should have ramped up production fast on high quality, medical grade masks.

However we should have simultaneously encouraged younger people to use makeshift or lower quality masks in the meantime. Let older at risk folks use the better masks, and especially medical personnel and first responders given the frequency of risk.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:52 pm
by Trinity
Science is not our strong suit. Diamond and Silk at the briefing today instead of OAN?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:55 pm
by ardilla secreta
6ftstick wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:25 pm Just heard a retelling of how The Kraft family sent their aircraft (usually used to move the Patriots) to CHINA to pick up a million masks and fly them back to Massachusetts at the request of the governor

WHO would wear a mask originating from CHINA the same place where the virus originated?
Kraft was re-loading on massage parlor girls. The masks just happen to be there.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:00 pm
by youthathletics
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:30 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:27 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:25 pm
ggait wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:04 pm
New research suggests that the virus could possibly be spread by talking or even breathing. Strengthens the case for all people wearing a mask.
Any day now, CDC is going to recommend masks for when people are out -- especially when in retail locations.

Wife went to Costco yesterday and they were handing out disposabe masks at the door. No mask-ee, no shop-ee. Crazy how exposed a cash register operator is. In an 8 hour shift, think of how many people are passing you by at less than 6 foot distance.

So here's how to cover your pie hole for your next trip out of the house. Takes less than 60 seconds. No sewing. Just need a square piece of cloth (t-shirt, pillow case, bandana, etc.) and two rubber bands. Re-use-able and washable. No impact on PPE and medical supply chain. If you want, you can take it to the next level and fold some kind of filtering paper into the business end.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6ADNMFRzIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOe_8z8k01U
Maybe a coffee filter?
We could all stop breathing. Improves your carbon footprint
Actually a really good mask can be made with two rubber bands, a paper clip, one shop towel (heavy duty paper towel), and a stapler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mai-UqdNRi8
The simplest....and you likely already have a half dozen. Just make sure you get the brown in the back and yellow in the front clean first. :lol:


Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:00 pm
by MDlaxfan76
If I'm not mistaken, total worldwide confirmed cases just broke 1 million, with more than 25% of those confirmed so far in the US.

We're doing better with testing that we were, though still difficult to get a test, and still not at per capita levels of numerous other countries.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:04 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
ggait wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:34 pm
Maybe a coffee filter?
Who knows -- couldn't hurt I guess.

But the thing proven to be best is a HEPA certified bag for your vaccum cleaner. If you have or can find one.

Definition: A “HEPA” Filter is a High Efficiency Particulate Air Filter. It is made from specially woven and treated fibers that filter very tiny particles out of the air. Many vacuum cleaners use HEPA Filter bags and these are what we will take apart and use for our masks.

NOT ANY VACUUM BAG WILL DO. Look for the HEPA label, stating that it is 99.97% effective for particles up to 0.3 microns. Bags that claim to filter out allergens are not suitable, as dust and pollen particles are way bigger than viruses.
Yes. I forgot about those.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:06 pm
by Trinity
BREAKING: Capt. Brett Crozier raised the alarm earlier this week that sailors on the USS Theodore Roosevelt needed to be quarantined to stop the spread of the virus. He is expected to be relieved of his post today. From @ckubeNBC

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:13 pm
by youthathletics
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:51 pm on the mask question, if your purpose is solely to prevent dispersion of droplets, anything is better than nothing.

And really no excuse for not at least trying to reduce dispersion.

But to protect oneself, best to use a well fitting mask designed to filter out low level particulate. Very important if in a high risk situation with a likelihood of exposure.

The mistake that was made for the past 8 weeks has been telling people not to wear masks at all because of the concern that would reduce supply for those most at risk, health care workers and first responders.

We certainly should have ramped up production fast on high quality, medical grade masks.

However we should have simultaneously encouraged younger people to use makeshift or lower quality masks in the meantime. Let older at risk folks use the better masks, and especially medical personnel and first responders given the frequency of risk.
:lol: :lol: Masks were gone in no time flat. Our company ordered 4000 of them for the Essential People a few weeks ago...still not in and the price doubled. Damned near 12k. Broken down by employees...essentially 1/day for a month. Crazy out here.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:17 pm
by MDlaxfan76
youthathletics wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:13 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:51 pm on the mask question, if your purpose is solely to prevent dispersion of droplets, anything is better than nothing.

And really no excuse for not at least trying to reduce dispersion.

But to protect oneself, best to use a well fitting mask designed to filter out low level particulate. Very important if in a high risk situation with a likelihood of exposure.

The mistake that was made for the past 8 weeks has been telling people not to wear masks at all because of the concern that would reduce supply for those most at risk, health care workers and first responders.

We certainly should have ramped up production fast on high quality, medical grade masks.

However we should have simultaneously encouraged younger people to use makeshift or lower quality masks in the meantime. Let older at risk folks use the better masks, and especially medical personnel and first responders given the frequency of risk.
:lol: :lol: Masks were gone in no time flat. Our company ordered 4000 of them for the Essential People a few weeks ago...still not in and the price doubled. Damned near 12k. Broken down by employees...essentially 1/day for a month. Crazy out here.
Yup...that was indeed predictable, at least as early as early-mid February...that's when the Defense Production Act should have been used to federalize production, purchasing, and distribution. Note that we still haven't done so...

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:19 pm
by njbill
6ftstick wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:25 pm Just heard a retelling of how The Kraft family sent their aircraft (usually used to move the Patriots) to CHINA to pick up a million masks and fly them back to Massachusetts at the request of the governor

WHO would wear a mask originating from CHINA the same place where the virus originated?
I guess Florida (Tampa Bay) ain't getting any of these masks.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:24 pm
by njbill
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:40 pm ummm......how in the world are they collecting this data? is someone tracking our movements, via cell phone gps, etc?
B*ldo is still tracking yours.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:31 pm
by Peter Brown
seacoaster wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:17 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:12 am
Kismet wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:49 am George Conway's take above and he isn't close to being a democrat. :lol: :lol: :lol:


George is no longer a Republican, either.

For the time being, his sole grift is being anti-Trump. He abandoned any pretense of having a core principle, reducing himself (as so many anti-Trump folks do) to what he professes to so dislike in Trump: a one-note, unprincipled opportunist.

Carry on.
Nearly completely false. No problem.


Go ahead and tell me anything that Conway has said in the last 2 years that shows he is a conservative. Any issue at all where he praises even one Republican (try finding a positive note from George about limited government...). His whole thing is a schtick.

I know people who knew George at the Vard very well...'nuff said on who they are. They say he often did things just to get a reaction, even back then. And since the new rules are we get to draw a picture of a guy from the worst they did in college (see: how Dems treat Brett Kavanaugh), I can say with total confidence that George Conway is a clown.

He's an incompetent show clown, with a tremendous inferiority complex. Trust him at your peril.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:33 pm
by Peter Brown
holmes435 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:28 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:15 pm
3rdPersonPlural wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:04 pm Some people are sticking close to home. Others aren't. God bless the south.

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It’s amazing to see liberals here repost a map where the guy who put it up originally is absolutely getting slaughtered on Twitter, causing him to retract the original thesis. The real problem is finding liberals who are NOT filled with hate, rage, or snark against those they think are inferior to them.

UHHH, 3rd person, not sure liberals can wrap their brains around the idea that grocery stores and places of work in rural areas are often more than two miles away. Not everyone has access to a corner bodega.
UHHH, buddy, not sure you can wrap your brain around the idea that it's not a map of how far people travel. It's a map of overall travel of the same people one week vs. the week prior.

I'll try to put it in terms you can understand. If you normally travel 2 miles in a week going back and forth from your corner bodega and now you still travel 2 miles in a week, it's gonna be dark red. If you normally travel 100 miles in a week to the Family Dollar a county over and now travel 0, it's gonna be light gray.



You need a remedial course in map analysis. Stat.

(fully expected btw, you're a Dem, an autodidact seething with a class warfare virus)