New research suggests that the virus could possibly be spread by talking or even breathing. Strengthens the case for all people wearing a mask.
Any day now, CDC is going to recommend masks for when people are out -- especially when in retail locations.
Wife went to Costco yesterday and they were handing out disposabe masks at the door. No mask-ee, no shop-ee. Crazy how exposed a cash register operator is. In an 8 hour shift, think of how many people are passing you by at less than 6 foot distance.
So here's how to cover your pie hole for your next trip out of the house. Takes less than 60 seconds. No sewing. Just need a square piece of cloth (t-shirt, pillow case, bandana, etc.) and two rubber bands. Re-use-able and washable. No impact on PPE and medical supply chain. If you want, you can take it to the next level and fold some kind of filtering paper into the business end.
CU88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:55 pm
Most of the 100,000 ventilators that President Donald Trump promised the U.S. would obtain won't be available until June, Federal Emergency Management Agency officials told the House Oversight Committee this week.
At the March 30 briefing, FEMA officials also acknowledged that they knew in mid-January that the supply of N95 respirator masks would fall short, according to the readout.
We'll wait and see how much of that story is actually true.
Leaked briefings by democrats—not a single corroborating name or story.
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:25 pm
by 6ftstick
Just heard a retelling of how The Kraft family sent their aircraft (usually used to move the Patriots) to CHINA to pick up a million masks and fly them back to Massachusetts at the request of the governor
WHO would wear a mask originating from CHINA the same place where the virus originated?
New research suggests that the virus could possibly be spread by talking or even breathing. Strengthens the case for all people wearing a mask.
Any day now, CDC is going to recommend masks for when people are out -- especially when in retail locations.
Wife went to Costco yesterday and they were handing out disposabe masks at the door. No mask-ee, no shop-ee. Crazy how exposed a cash register operator is. In an 8 hour shift, think of how many people are passing you by at less than 6 foot distance.
So here's how to cover your pie hole for your next trip out of the house. Takes less than 60 seconds. No sewing. Just need a square piece of cloth (t-shirt, pillow case, bandana, etc.) and two rubber bands. Re-use-able and washable. No impact on PPE and medical supply chain. If you want, you can take it to the next level and fold some kind of filtering paper into the business end.
wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:19 pmlist all the countries that handled this in fashion perfecto, or anywhere close, to arrive at a different outcome. so we can revisit in a month.
Taiwan. They disbelieved what the ChiComms said from the start, sent their own experts to Wuhan & locked down well before the CPC even admitted it was contagious. ...they know, better than anyone, not to believe anything out of the CPC.
New research suggests that the virus could possibly be spread by talking or even breathing. Strengthens the case for all people wearing a mask.
Any day now, CDC is going to recommend masks for when people are out -- especially when in retail locations.
Wife went to Costco yesterday and they were handing out disposabe masks at the door. No mask-ee, no shop-ee. Crazy how exposed a cash register operator is. In an 8 hour shift, think of how many people are passing you by at less than 6 foot distance.
So here's how to cover your pie hole for your next trip out of the house. Takes less than 60 seconds. No sewing. Just need a square piece of cloth (t-shirt, pillow case, bandana, etc.) and two rubber bands. Re-use-able and washable. No impact on PPE and medical supply chain. If you want, you can take it to the next level and fold some kind of filtering paper into the business end.
3rdPersonPlural wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:04 pm
Some people are sticking close to home. Others aren't. God bless the south.
It’s amazing to see liberals here repost a map where the guy who put it up originally is absolutely getting slaughtered on Twitter, causing him to retract the original thesis. The real problem is finding liberals who are NOT filled with hate, rage, or snark against those they think are inferior to them.
UHHH, 3rd person, not sure liberals can wrap their brains around the idea that grocery stores and places of work in rural areas are often more than two miles away. Not everyone has access to a corner bodega.
UHHH, buddy, not sure you can wrap your brain around the idea that it's not a map of how far people travel. It's a map of overall travel of the same people one week vs. the week prior.
I'll try to put it in terms you can understand. If you normally travel 2 miles in a week going back and forth from your corner bodega and now you still travel 2 miles in a week, it's gonna be dark red. If you normally travel 100 miles in a week to the Family Dollar a county over and now travel 0, it's gonna be light gray.
New research suggests that the virus could possibly be spread by talking or even breathing. Strengthens the case for all people wearing a mask.
Any day now, CDC is going to recommend masks for when people are out -- especially when in retail locations.
Wife went to Costco yesterday and they were handing out disposabe masks at the door. No mask-ee, no shop-ee. Crazy how exposed a cash register operator is. In an 8 hour shift, think of how many people are passing you by at less than 6 foot distance.
So here's how to cover your pie hole for your next trip out of the house. Takes less than 60 seconds. No sewing. Just need a square piece of cloth (t-shirt, pillow case, bandana, etc.) and two rubber bands. Re-use-able and washable. No impact on PPE and medical supply chain. If you want, you can take it to the next level and fold some kind of filtering paper into the business end.
New research suggests that the virus could possibly be spread by talking or even breathing. Strengthens the case for all people wearing a mask.
Any day now, CDC is going to recommend masks for when people are out -- especially when in retail locations.
Wife went to Costco yesterday and they were handing out disposabe masks at the door. No mask-ee, no shop-ee. Crazy how exposed a cash register operator is. In an 8 hour shift, think of how many people are passing you by at less than 6 foot distance.
So here's how to cover your pie hole for your next trip out of the house. Takes less than 60 seconds. No sewing. Just need a square piece of cloth (t-shirt, pillow case, bandana, etc.) and two rubber bands. Re-use-able and washable. No impact on PPE and medical supply chain. If you want, you can take it to the next level and fold some kind of filtering paper into the business end.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom told a press conference on Wednesday that the coronavirus crisis provided an opportunity to usher in “a progressive era” through policy changes that shift American society away from capitalism.
A reporter with Bloomberg News asked Newsom whether he saw “the potential, as many others in the [Democratic] Party do, for a new progressive era, if you want to call it that, in national politics and policy … and whether there’s the opportunity for additionally progressive steps … on the national and state level.”
The governor admittedly gave a long-winded answer which culminated in, “yes,” admitting there is political opportunity born out of the pandemic. “There is opportunity for reimagining a [more] progressive era as it [relates] to capitalism,” Gov. Newsom said. “So yes, absolutely we see this as an opportunity to reshape the way we do business and how we govern.”
“This is a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision.” – Majority Whip James Clyburn
3rdPersonPlural wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:04 pm
Some people are sticking close to home. Others aren't. God bless the south.
It’s amazing to see liberals here repost a map where the guy who put it up originally is absolutely getting slaughtered on Twitter, causing him to retract the original thesis. The real problem is finding liberals who are NOT filled with hate, rage, or snark against those they think are inferior to them.
UHHH, 3rd person, not sure liberals can wrap their brains around the idea that grocery stores and places of work in rural areas are often more than two miles away. Not everyone has access to a corner bodega.
UHHH, buddy, not sure you can wrap your brain around the idea that it's not a map of how far people travel. It's a map of overall travel of the same people one week vs. the week prior.
I'll try to put it in terms you can understand. If you normally travel 2 miles in a week going back and forth from your corner bodega and now you still travel 2 miles in a week, it's gonna be dark red. If you normally travel 100 miles in a week to the Family Dollar a county over and now travel 0, it's gonna be light gray.
ummm......how in the world are they collecting this data? is someone tracking our movements, via cell phone gps, etc?
New research suggests that the virus could possibly be spread by talking or even breathing. Strengthens the case for all people wearing a mask.
Any day now, CDC is going to recommend masks for when people are out -- especially when in retail locations.
Wife went to Costco yesterday and they were handing out disposabe masks at the door. No mask-ee, no shop-ee. Crazy how exposed a cash register operator is. In an 8 hour shift, think of how many people are passing you by at less than 6 foot distance.
So here's how to cover your pie hole for your next trip out of the house. Takes less than 60 seconds. No sewing. Just need a square piece of cloth (t-shirt, pillow case, bandana, etc.) and two rubber bands. Re-use-able and washable. No impact on PPE and medical supply chain. If you want, you can take it to the next level and fold some kind of filtering paper into the business end.
Not anti mask. If you want to wear one wear one. I personally have no problem wearing one when I go out side.
But here is the question. I read the recent Nature article, googled new research air born corona virus. Article says the debate weather it is aerosolized (dont know if its a word but it sounds good in my head) or not is still in the air. If it is aerosolized does it still carry enough of a viral load to infect ect, ect. Really interesting article.
The question I have, perhaps Kramerica can answer as he seems to be on the technical side of it with materials. The masking that has been talked about here would seem to help on that droplet size particles, coughed or sneezed. The size of the aerosolized virus would seem to make this type of mask obsolete? Thanks.
runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:23 am
SO, forever STOP posting.......any of you....if you can't list 5 things that the POTUSA should have done differently.
While we are waiting, Trump could have simply kept his MF mouth shut...but no, he had to tell us his lies.
We don't need 5 reasons. We need one. And that one is precisely what Forever is saying. Trump lied. It's the staple of his presidency, of his life. Lying. He put how he would look, how the market would react ahead of people's health, people's lives. And, as a direct consequence, the US's reaction to this virus was slower than necessary.
The media hid FDR's paralysis his entire Presidency.
Trump would be called a liar for trying to conceal it from the public.
How was FDR's messaging on the internment camps ?
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:53 pm
by CU88
CDC first warning: Jan 8
Trump rallies Jan 9, 14, 28, 30
Feb 10, 19, 20, 21 & 28
Golf on: Jan 18, 19,
Feb 1, 15, Mar 7 and 8
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:15 pm
by holmes435
runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:40 pm
ummm......how in the world are they collecting this data? is someone tracking our movements, via cell phone gps, etc?
Yup. People agreeing to share their GPS data when they install various apps on their phone. I think that map is using tracking data of 15 million people.
3rdPersonPlural wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:04 pm
Some people are sticking close to home. Others aren't. God bless the south.
It’s amazing to see liberals here repost a map where the guy who put it up originally is absolutely getting slaughtered on Twitter, causing him to retract the original thesis. The real problem is finding liberals who are NOT filled with hate, rage, or snark against those they think are inferior to them.
UHHH, 3rd person, not sure liberals can wrap their brains around the idea that grocery stores and places of work in rural areas are often more than two miles away. Not everyone has access to a corner bodega.
UHHH, buddy, not sure you can wrap your brain around the idea that it's not a map of how far people travel. It's a map of overall travel of the same people one week vs. the week prior.
I'll try to put it in terms you can understand. If you normally travel 2 miles in a week going back and forth from your corner bodega and now you still travel 2 miles in a week, it's gonna be dark red. If you normally travel 100 miles in a week to the Family Dollar a county over and now travel 0, it's gonna be light gray.
ummm......how in the world are they collecting this data? is someone tracking our movements, via cell phone gps, etc?
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:17 pm
by Trinity
Trump has picked his foil and it’s healthcare workers. —Yamiche Alcindor, pbs
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:22 pm
by MDlaxfan76
6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:25 pm
Just heard a retelling of how The Kraft family sent their aircraft (usually used to move the Patriots) to CHINA to pick up a million masks and fly them back to Massachusetts at the request of the governor
WHO would wear a mask originating from CHINA the same place where the virus originated?
You mean the place that we're blowing past in # of cases and deaths?
Seriously, they make and use masks all the time.
Many, if not most, Chinese use masks daily throughout the winter months due to pollution.
Huge volume producers.
They're way, way down the experience curve.
Clapping hands for the Krafts on this one.
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:26 pm
by Matnum PI
old salt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:48 pm
The media hid FDR's paralysis his entire Presidency.
Trump would be called a liar for trying to conceal it from the public.
How was FDR's messaging on the internment camps ?
Not just FDR. Literally all presidents lie. Most every, if not every, politician lies. It's just a reality of the industry. With this said, Trump's lying is not like most anything we've seen before. Certainly in my life time. Politicians have had bigger lies. but in terms of how blatant the lies are and how often they're shared, Trump is off the charts.
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:30 pm
by MDlaxfan76
6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:33 pm
Never let a crisis go to waste.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom told a press conference on Wednesday that the coronavirus crisis provided an opportunity to usher in “a progressive era” through policy changes that shift American society away from capitalism.
A reporter with Bloomberg News asked Newsom whether he saw “the potential, as many others in the [Democratic] Party do, for a new progressive era, if you want to call it that, in national politics and policy … and whether there’s the opportunity for additionally progressive steps … on the national and state level.”
The governor admittedly gave a long-winded answer which culminated in, “yes,” admitting there is political opportunity born out of the pandemic. “There is opportunity for reimagining a [more] progressive era as it [relates] to capitalism,” Gov. Newsom said. “So yes, absolutely we see this as an opportunity to reshape the way we do business and how we govern.”
“This is a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision.” – Majority Whip James Clyburn
6ft, talk to PB...he thinks you Trumpists are going to run to the left of D's and go all in for Medicare for All.
I do think we're all going to re-think what is "progressive" and government's role and responsibility in society.
We're likely to see all sorts of changes in perspective and behaviors.
I'm ok with that, as long as we continue to reward risk taking and creativity.
Sounds like Newsom answered honestly, not that this thought process is top of mind. He sounds quite focused on trying to manage the current trauma as the paramount issue in the short term. As he should.
