Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:09 am
“It’s a rare individual in public office who does not eventually become personally corrupt.”
Rudolph Giuliani, 1988
Rudolph Giuliani, 1988
Same Party, Different House
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Indeed!Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:09 am “It’s a rare individual in public office who does not eventually become personally corrupt.”
Rudolph Giuliani, 1988
Lying to the FBI ain't a good look. Wonder if he was instructed to lie and by whom?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:47 am https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/23/politics ... index.html
meanwhile, in the docs case, we learn that the individual 4, responsible for IT at Mar-a-Lago, flipped when he was offered a lawyer not paid by Trump's PAC, now testifying as to the effort directed by Trump to destroy the videotapes. That triggered the superseding indictment.
More flips expected in both cases in due course.
Initially, this guy was represented by a lawyer provided by the Trump PAC, named Stanley Woodward. Woodward was also representing, I think, Nauta. While Woodward was representing them both, both Nauta and Taveras, "Individual No. 4," lied to the Grand Jury about the plot/directive to delete the security footage. DOJ appears to have believed that they lied. Then DOJ raised the conflict of interest between them, and the Chief Judge a public federal defender available. Tavares consulted with federal defender assigned to him, who likely told Tavares that his only hope not to be indicted was to, umm, tell the truth. And that’s when Taveras came clean. Nauta appears to be in a pickle here, as Trump will almost certainly try to roll his servile body under the bus.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:20 pmLying to the FBI ain't a good look. Wonder if he was instructed to lie and by whom?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:47 am https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/23/politics ... index.html
meanwhile, in the docs case, we learn that the individual 4, responsible for IT at Mar-a-Lago, flipped when he was offered a lawyer not paid by Trump's PAC, now testifying as to the effort directed by Trump to destroy the videotapes. That triggered the superseding indictment.
More flips expected in both cases in due course.
Also wonder if Trump's gonna go after him too.
It's an interesting question as to whether he was actually told to lie, explicitly, ("our story is going to be...") or just understood that he was supposed to do so (wink, wink) or whether he actually thought that lying would protect him...get away with it...NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:20 pmLying to the FBI ain't a good look. Wonder if he was instructed to lie and by whom?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:47 am https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/23/politics ... index.html
meanwhile, in the docs case, we learn that the individual 4, responsible for IT at Mar-a-Lago, flipped when he was offered a lawyer not paid by Trump's PAC, now testifying as to the effort directed by Trump to destroy the videotapes. That triggered the superseding indictment.
More flips expected in both cases in due course.
Also wonder if Trump's gonna go after him too.
... day before super Tuesday I think.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:39 am USA v. Trump, case in DC federal district court set for trial March 4, 2024. Kind of nice it is on the old inauguration day.
rather convenient.jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:55 am... day before super Tuesday I think.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:39 am USA v. Trump, case in DC federal district court set for trial March 4, 2024. Kind of nice it is on the old inauguration day.
My reading is that it was a very pro-Trump ruling. He gets to do all of his campaigning in the Super Tuesday states before his trial.youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:33 pmrather convenient.jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:55 am... day before super Tuesday I think.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:39 am USA v. Trump, case in DC federal district court set for trial March 4, 2024. Kind of nice it is on the old inauguration day.
And if was closer to November.......you wouldn't complain, right?youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:33 pmrather convenient.jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:55 am... day before super Tuesday I think.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:39 am USA v. Trump, case in DC federal district court set for trial March 4, 2024. Kind of nice it is on the old inauguration day.
How's the weather in Denver?a fan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:45 pmAnd if was closer to November.......you wouldn't complain, right?youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:33 pmrather convenient.jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:55 am... day before super Tuesday I think.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:39 am USA v. Trump, case in DC federal district court set for trial March 4, 2024. Kind of nice it is on the old inauguration day.
And naturally, your comment "rather convenient" isn't "a polarizing, partisan, big gov't, pro trump," comment, right?youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:54 pmHow's the weather in Denver?a fan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:45 pmAnd if was closer to November.......you wouldn't complain, right?youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:33 pmrather convenient.jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:55 am... day before super Tuesday I think.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:39 am USA v. Trump, case in DC federal district court set for trial March 4, 2024. Kind of nice it is on the old inauguration day.
Let's see how you can turn that question in to a polarizing, partisan, big gov't, pro trump, I told ya so, bet over a steak dinner?
Victim mentality.a fan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:59 pmAnd naturally, your comment "rather convenient" isn't "a polarizing, partisan, big gov't, pro trump," comment, right?youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:54 pmHow's the weather in Denver?a fan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:45 pmAnd if was closer to November.......you wouldn't complain, right?youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:33 pmrather convenient.jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:55 am... day before super Tuesday I think.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:39 am USA v. Trump, case in DC federal district court set for trial March 4, 2024. Kind of nice it is on the old inauguration day.
Let's see how you can turn that question in to a polarizing, partisan, big gov't, pro trump, I told ya so, bet over a steak dinner?
It's a neutral, even handed comment.
Come on man. Stop complaining when I return your fire. Put down the TrumpApologist gun, and I won't reply, my man.
Sound advice. Will he take it?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:49 pm Long letter to Kenneth Chesebro:
https://www.justsecurity.org/88068/a-le ... ng-guilty/
I thought so too, and I’d guess “no,” he’ll go to trial.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:54 pmSound advice. Will he take it?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:49 pm Long letter to Kenneth Chesebro:
https://www.justsecurity.org/88068/a-le ... ng-guilty/
I think he's going to be dumb and fight and this will be televised much to his chagrin, along with Powell. They'll be convicted.
But if he takes the advice, it'll put a ton of pressure on others...
Trump will walk. His minions are F'ed.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 5:36 pmI thought so too, and I’d guess “no,” he’ll go to trial.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:54 pmSound advice. Will he take it?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:49 pm Long letter to Kenneth Chesebro:
https://www.justsecurity.org/88068/a-le ... ng-guilty/
I think he's going to be dumb and fight and this will be televised much to his chagrin, along with Powell. They'll be convicted.
But if he takes the advice, it'll put a ton of pressure on others...