2024

[cradleandshoot]

I think Vance “abandoned” his unit after only serving four years.

Declined to re-up, chickened out, and decided to retreat to the safety of Ohio State on the taxpayers’ dime.

Well clearly he should be hauled out back, and shot. Or at least, deported.

And while we're at it: didn't OS claim to fight in a War? The Cold "War"......implying he fought in a war, when he didn't? Oh no! He called it a "war" when it was no such thing! STOLEN VALOR!!!!

....every time I think our nation can't get more stupid and just flat out cr*ppy to our fellow man?

Old Salt never named it the " Cold War " He did train extensively to do his job if the Soviets chose to roll tanks into the Fulda Gap. FTR and I don't think I need to speak for Old Salt but your confused as to the use of terminology. I believe Old Salt as did my brother and as did I SERVED in the military during the Cold war...savvy my man?

I'm 1000% kidding, and thought that was clear as day.....did you not see me "hauled out back and shot. Or at least deported" comment?

I would NEVER go after anyone's service, or question it in anyway. Old Salt said he served for 27 years....he served for 27 years. End of discussion.

I'm making fun of how stupid and disgusting going after Walz is.

My apologies I don't believe questioning the timing of his decision is disrespecting his service. I believe the NCOs that served under him have a legitimate gripe. They couldn't retire or leave the National Guard. They were under a stop loss order and they were sent to Iraq and put in harms way. To my knowledge as of yet former SM Walz has never commented on how he feels about that fact. Perhaps that is a question the media may want to ask him about?

[cradleandshoot]

I think Vance “abandoned” his unit after only serving four years.

Declined to re-up, chickened out, and decided to retreat to the safety of Ohio State on the taxpayers’ dime.

I’m sure Salty and Cra will pipe up with outrage. I mean if Walz is a pretender and sleaze after 24 years, how can you stomach what Vance did?

The other NCOs in his unit might think he crapped out on them. The were under a stop loss order. They had no way out. They had to deploy to a combat zone. Their former SM got to run for Congress. What exactly did Vance do? He was deployed to Iraq and served in the MOS he was trained in and performed the job he was tasked by the Marines to do. I can stomach that fairly easily. In civilian speak for you...it's called doing your f***ing job.

Walz was allowed to leave. He left to run for Congress.

Vance was allowed to leave. He left to go to college and law school.

Same forking thing. Same forking thing.

Treat them both the same. And/or stfu.

JD Vance wasn't looking at a stop loss order former SM Walz was. Do you see the glaring difference? JD Vance left the military the same way I did it is called ETS...look it up nothing dishonorable about it at all. FTR there was nothing dishonorable about how former SM Walz left the service. The only thing in question counselor was his timing for doing so.

[Seacoaster(1)]

Genuflecting before the money:

https://newrepublic.com/article/182300/ ... ium=social

“One of the most enduring—and ridiculous—#Resistance narratives of the Trump era was the idea that the president of the United States was a literal Manchurian Candidate, a man who had been compromised for years (perhaps even decades) by a foreign power, namely Russia.

Like most enduring conspiracy theories, this one was built on a kernel of truth. Donald Trump really was admiring of Vladimir Putin and had no apparent problem with the Russian dictator arresting dissidents or invading neighbors. In fact, Trump was far more conciliatory to Russia, a long-standing adversary, than he was to many of America’s closest allies.

When Trump’s troubling admiration of Putin was combined with other details—particularly salacious (and dubious) reports of Trump, as a private citizen, being videotaped in Moscow and salacious (and accurate) records of Trump doing business with shady Russian oligarchs—a conspiracy was born. Trump was compromised. Either through blackmail or bribery, America’s foreign policy was obviously being directed by Russia.

Nearly a decade into Trump’s political career, there is no evidence that he is compromised by Putin or any other foreign power. But as he runs for reelection, Trump is indeed compromised in a way he never has been before. Desperate to avoid prison—and needing cash to win reelection, so he can pardon himself—Trump is selling his administration’s domestic and foreign policy to the highest bidder. It’s hardly a conspiracy, either. As we speak, he is traveling from billionaire to billionaire with hat in hand, making explicit promises to sell his presidency.

Trump has raked in campaign contributions in the wake of his conviction last week on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records—$60 million alone in the 24 hours after the jury delivered a guilty verdict, nearly half of his total $141 million haul in May. But even with that sizable pot, his campaign is still trailing Biden’s. And given Trump’s use of campaign contributions to pay attorneys representing him in his numerous criminal trials, much of that money is being spent on legal rather than political expenses.

For Trump, the 2024 presidential campaign is an existential project. If he wins, he surely will direct the Department of Justice to drop two ongoing criminal cases against him—one involving his retention of classified information after leaving office in 2021, another involving his role in the January 6 insurrection. He could, as president, also pardon himself and several key witnesses who might otherwise be tempted to testify against him to avoid jail time or reduce sentences. To keep those cases from advancing, and ultimately kill them, Trump needs to win the 2024 election. To do that, he needs money—lots of it.

In recent weeks, one strategy for raising money has become clear: Trump is going to wealthy donors and interest groups and offering to cede policymaking to them—in exchange for massive campaign contributions. Last month, The Washington Post reported that Trump gathered oil executives at Mar-a-Lago and made a pitch: For the low cost of $1 billion, he would, as president “reverse dozens of President Biden’s environmental rules and policies and stop new ones from being enacted.” The pitch reportedly “stunned several of the executives in the room.” But it is nevertheless in keeping with Trump’s larger program. Despite promising during his first run for office in 2016 that he was, as a rich person, incorruptible—and that he would use his inside knowledge of a corrupt system to benefit his voters—Trump has always dispensed with subtlety and flaunted his corruption. Here, he is advertising his willingness to take a bribe: Give me what I want, and I’ll give you what you want.

And less than two weeks after that Post report, Trump made even more promises to oil and gas executives at a campaign fundraiser. He reportedly ended his speech by saying, “Be generous, please,” and was rewarded with more than $25 million in donations.

That’s not all. In late May, an interesting item appeared in a New York magazine profile of billionaire casino magnate—and part owner of the NBA Finals–bound Dallas Mavericks—Miriam Adelson. Adelson, a long-standing donor to right-wing Republicans and a staunch supporter of Israel, is expected to be Trump’s largest donor in the 2024 cycle. But her money comes with strings attached.

“One can assume she’ll press for the unfinished items of Trump’s Israel agenda from last term,” New York’s Elizabeth Weil wrote. “Top of that list: Israel annexing the West Bank and the U.S. recognizing its sovereignty there.” That would mark a dramatic shift in America’s policy toward Israel—and would make ending Israel’s destructive military campaign in Gaza significantly harder. But Trump is advertising that he’s open for business, and he has never shown any interest in Palestinian rights; it’s fair to assume he would see supporting annexation of the West Bank as a small price to pay for millions in campaign contributions. Last month, moreover, Trump promised donors that he would set back the pro-Palestinian movement by “25 or 30 years.” One easy way to do that: Allow Israel to annex the West Bank.

There’s little doubt that if Trump returns to the White House, he’ll again speak favorably of Putin and likely even support Russia’s annexation of Ukraine. But if so, it will be because Trump is fond of autocrats and disdains America’s alliances, rather than because Putin holds some kind of leverage over him. And yet, if Trump as president also does everything in his power to enrich the billionaire donors who have contributed so generously to his campaign, it will be hard to believe it’s because of a fondness for billionaires. Rather, he will simply be returning the favors that, for all the world to see, he promised them this year.“

[a fan]

I think Vance “abandoned” his unit after only serving four years.

Declined to re-up, chickened out, and decided to retreat to the safety of Ohio State on the taxpayers’ dime.

Well clearly he should be hauled out back, and shot. Or at least, deported.

And while we're at it: didn't OS claim to fight in a War? The Cold "War"......implying he fought in a war, when he didn't? Oh no! He called it a "war" when it was no such thing! STOLEN VALOR!!!!

....every time I think our nation can't get more stupid and just flat out cr*ppy to our fellow man?

Old Salt never named it the " Cold War " He did train extensively to do his job if the Soviets chose to roll tanks into the Fulda Gap. FTR and I don't think I need to speak for Old Salt but your confused as to the use of terminology. I believe Old Salt as did my brother and as did I SERVED in the military during the Cold war...savvy my man?

I'm 1000% kidding, and thought that was clear as day.....did you not see me "hauled out back and shot. Or at least deported" comment?

I would NEVER go after anyone's service, or question it in anyway. Old Salt said he served for 27 years....he served for 27 years. End of discussion.

I'm making fun of how stupid and disgusting going after Walz is.

My apologies I don't believe questioning the timing of his decision is disrespecting his service. I believe the NCOs that served under him have a legitimate gripe. They couldn't retire or leave the National Guard. They were under a stop loss order and they were sent to Iraq and put in harms way. To my knowledge as of yet former SM Walz has never commented on how he feels about that fact. Perhaps that is a question the media may want to ask him about?

Cradle....come on. He served for TWENTY FOUR YEARS.

You have two choices: cr*p on everyone who "only" served 23 years, before "bailing on their NCO's"......or just stop.

If this is the bar? There are now MILLIONS of American soldiers and National Guardsmen who are pieces of sh9t, who "screwed over" those who stayed in the service for longer.

That includes Vance.....you understand that, right? Is Vance on the hook for "quitting" on his fellow soldiers after a pitiful four years of service? Is he on the hook for those who served because Vance "bailed on his NCO's". And are we supposed to rip on Vance for not going on the front lines, and "only" working as a stupid reporter?

Both Walz and Vance served honorably. That's it. End of conversation.

[ggait]

I think Vance “abandoned” his unit after only serving four years.

Declined to re-up, chickened out, and decided to retreat to the safety of Ohio State on the taxpayers’ dime.

I’m sure Salty and Cra will pipe up with outrage. I mean if Walz is a pretender and sleaze after 24 years, how can you stomach what Vance did?

The other NCOs in his unit might think he crapped out on them. The were under a stop loss order. They had no way out. They had to deploy to a combat zone. Their former SM got to run for Congress. What exactly did Vance do? He was deployed to Iraq and served in the MOS he was trained in and performed the job he was tasked by the Marines to do. I can stomach that fairly easily. In civilian speak for you...it's called doing your f***ing job.

Walz was allowed to leave. He left to run for Congress.

Vance was allowed to leave. He left to go to college and law school.

Same forking thing. Same forking thing.

Treat them both the same. And/or stfu.

JD Vance wasn't looking at a stop loss order former SM Walz was. Do you see the glaring difference? JD Vance left the military the same way I did it is called ETS...look it up nothing dishonorable about it at all. FTR there was nothing dishonorable about how former SM Walz left the service. The only thing in question counselor was his timing for doing so.

Ok.

You admit that there was nothing dis-honorable about either departure. They are the same.

So now I’ll move on and you can stfu.

Deal?

[old salt]

What makes you think I no longer care about Hunter.

Same way I could tell you didn't care about elections.....you didn't post a word about the midterm elections. Not a peep, even when I asked the rest of TeamTinFoil after the midterms if they had any comments....knowing that you had "forgotten" to complain about it now that Trump wasn't on the ballot.

I posted that Trump cost the (R)'s control of the Senate in the 2020 GA special elections & again in 2022 midterms with the candidates he endorsed, which also reduced their potential House majority. I've posted that he's doing the same thing again in this election, in addition to scuttling his own prospects in this election.

[cradleandshoot]

I think Vance “abandoned” his unit after only serving four years.

Declined to re-up, chickened out, and decided to retreat to the safety of Ohio State on the taxpayers’ dime.

Well clearly he should be hauled out back, and shot. Or at least, deported.

And while we're at it: didn't OS claim to fight in a War? The Cold "War"......implying he fought in a war, when he didn't? Oh no! He called it a "war" when it was no such thing! STOLEN VALOR!!!!

....every time I think our nation can't get more stupid and just flat out cr*ppy to our fellow man?

Old Salt never named it the " Cold War " He did train extensively to do his job if the Soviets chose to roll tanks into the Fulda Gap. FTR and I don't think I need to speak for Old Salt but your confused as to the use of terminology. I believe Old Salt as did my brother and as did I SERVED in the military during the Cold war...savvy my man?

I'm 1000% kidding, and thought that was clear as day.....did you not see me "hauled out back and shot. Or at least deported" comment?

I would NEVER go after anyone's service, or question it in anyway. Old Salt said he served for 27 years....he served for 27 years. End of discussion.

I'm making fun of how stupid and disgusting going after Walz is.

My apologies I don't believe questioning the timing of his decision is disrespecting his service. I believe the NCOs that served under him have a legitimate gripe. They couldn't retire or leave the National Guard. They were under a stop loss order and they were sent to Iraq and put in harms way. To my knowledge as of yet former SM Walz has never commented on how he feels about that fact. Perhaps that is a question the media may want to ask him about?

Cradle....come on. He served for TWENTY FOUR YEARS.

You have two choices: cr*p on everyone who "only" served 23 years, before "bailing on their NCO's"......or just stop.

If this is the bar? There are now MILLIONS of American soldiers and National Guardsmen who are pieces of sh9t, who "screwed over" those who stayed in the service for longer.

That includes Vance.....you understand that, right? Is Vance on the hook for "quitting" on his fellow soldiers after a pitiful four years of service? Is he on the hook for those who served because Vance "bailed on his NCO's". And are we supposed to rip on Vance for not going on the front lines, and "only" working as a stupid reporter?

Both Walz and Vance served honorably. That's it. End of conversation.

It is not about how long he served my man. Neither myself or Old Salt is questioning his service or how honorable his service was or how long his service was. Walz did scoot out in the nick of time before he was effected by the stop loss order his unit came under. The NCOs in his unit didn't have that option they couldn't leave. You don't have a problem with that and that was the former SM prerogative to leave when he did. I can only ask you to put yourself in the shoes of the former SM soldiers and NCOs that likely also had considerable time in service and time in grade who didn't have the option to get out of being deployed into a combat zone. How do you think that made them feel?

[old salt]

Yeah, afan, TLD, Kismet & other TDS victims have no thread discipline.
They continue to troll me on Hunter, voting, Benghazi & other off-topic wharaboutisms.
If YA, c&s, Kramerica & I did not post, there would be no diversity of opinion or information in this forum.

Boo-hoo. The troll cannot stand getting some of his own medicine. Here's an idea - just STFU and nobody will troll you, you stupid troll.

We don't need you to post here. You've turned into a walking FoxNews talking head. You are unable to form your own opinion anymore.

Let's see if the Forum can tell whether this is Old Salt, or FoxNews:

1. DEI
2. The gays and Bud Light
3. election fraud is real
4. Dems allow open borders
5. there's no way to fix the borders, except to vote Trump
6. Dems are bad
7. Hunter's laptop was suppressed, and contained evidence of (insert stupid theory)
8. Giving money and arms to Ukraine is bad
9. "they" are brainwashing our kids in schools
10. CRT is bad
11. all of Trump's policies were perfect, and we have no complaints about any of what he did
12. we don't care that Kushner got $2Billion from the Saudis after having supposedly worked there on behalf of the American people behind
closed doors, yet at the same time, we're going to lose our minds if we think Hunter did something similar in Ukraine.

....I could go on and on. Can anyone on the Forum tell if I'm talking about Old Salt's "Ideas" or FoxNations?

No, right? Well...that's cause they are identical. And he's been trolling the forum with this stuff for years now. Hasn't had an original thought since the old forum.

I would LOVE for you to post like the conservative you claim to be. You are unable to do that, save for fits and starts when you're tired of your own trolling, and act like a human. Then you stop doing that, and go right back to spewing FoxNation nonsense.

You don't give me credit for original thought. You won't hear about Pat Buchanan or Jim Webb on FNC. They're just catching up with me.

[old salt]

I think Vance “abandoned” his unit after only serving four years.

Declined to re-up, chickened out, and decided to retreat to the safety of Ohio State on the taxpayers’ dime.

I’m sure Salty and Cra will pipe up with outrage. I mean if Walz is a pretender and sleaze after 24 years, how can you stomach what Vance did?

You display your lack of subject matter knowledge. Vance completed his enlistment contract. He did not accept a promotion to a rank & assignment that required further obligated service. There was no looming stop-loss order coming. He did not leave his unit in the lurch by unexpectedly departing from a significant position of leadership shortly before a deployment.

Walz earned his degrees on the taxpayer's dime, without serving full time on active duty or deploying.
He has said that the GI Bill was a motivating factor in joining the NG, as his father had.

I say again. I don't question Master Sergeant Walz's decision to retire. He had ambitions to serve in Congress. He knew a stop-loss was coming. Given his views on the Iraq War, based on his speech to the nation as a freshman Congressman, his unit was probably better off without him, thanks to CSM Behrends stepping into the breach. I do not consider what he did to be stolen valor or dishonorable, just shady.

[a fan]

What makes you think I no longer care about Hunter.

Same way I could tell you didn't care about elections.....you didn't post a word about the midterm elections. Not a peep, even when I asked the rest of TeamTinFoil after the midterms if they had any comments....knowing that you had "forgotten" to complain about it now that Trump wasn't on the ballot.

I posted that Trump cost the (R)'s control of the Senate in the 2020 GA special elections & again in 2022 midterms with the candidates he endorsed, which also reduced their potential House majority. I've posted that he's doing the same thing again in this election, in addition to scuttling his own prospects in this election.

Has absolutely NOTHING to do with my post that you cited here.

My post is about your fake concerns about election fraud.

[Kismet]

I think Vance “abandoned” his unit after only serving four years.

Declined to re-up, chickened out, and decided to retreat to the safety of Ohio State on the taxpayers’ dime.

I’m sure Salty and Cra will pipe up with outrage. I mean if Walz is a pretender and sleaze after 24 years, how can you stomach what Vance did?

The other NCOs in his unit might think he crapped out on them. The were under a stop loss order. They had no way out. They had to deploy to a combat zone. Their former SM got to run for Congress. What exactly did Vance do? He was deployed to Iraq and served in the MOS he was trained in and performed the job he was tasked by the Marines to do. I can stomach that fairly easily. In civilian speak for you...it's called doing your f***ing job.

Walz was allowed to leave. He left to run for Congress.

Vance was allowed to leave. He left to go to college and law school.

Same forking thing. Same forking thing.

Treat them both the same. And/or stfu.

JD Vance wasn't looking at a stop loss order former SM Walz was. Do you see the glaring difference? JD Vance left the military the same way I did it is called ETS...look it up nothing dishonorable about it at all. FTR there was nothing dishonorable about how former SM Walz left the service. The only thing in question counselor was his timing for doing so.

Fine. Why didn't they express an opinion at that time and wait YEARS until now to gripe publicly?

[old salt]

What makes you think I no longer care about Hunter.

Same way I could tell you didn't care about elections.....you didn't post a word about the midterm elections. Not a peep, even when I asked the rest of TeamTinFoil after the midterms if they had any comments....knowing that you had "forgotten" to complain about it now that Trump wasn't on the ballot.

I posted that Trump cost the (R)'s control of the Senate in the 2020 GA special elections & again in 2022 midterms with the candidates he endorsed, which also reduced their potential House majority. I've posted that he's doing the same thing again in this election, in addition to scuttling his own prospects in this election.

Has absolutely NOTHING to do with my post that you cited here.

My post is about your fake concerns about election fraud.

They are not fake. I'm concerned about the potential for election fraud & the difficulty in enforcing ballot harvesting, drop boxes, voter ID & citizenship requirements, as the results from VA which I just posted illustrate. You are not that accurate at telling me what you think I think. you tell me what you wish I thought.

[a fan]

Yeah, afan, TLD, Kismet & other TDS victims have no thread discipline.
They continue to troll me on Hunter, voting, Benghazi & other off-topic wharaboutisms.
If YA, c&s, Kramerica & I did not post, there would be no diversity of opinion or information in this forum.

Boo-hoo. The troll cannot stand getting some of his own medicine. Here's an idea - just STFU and nobody will troll you, you stupid troll.

We don't need you to post here. You've turned into a walking FoxNews talking head. You are unable to form your own opinion anymore.

Let's see if the Forum can tell whether this is Old Salt, or FoxNews:

1. DEI
2. The gays and Bud Light
3. election fraud is real
4. Dems allow open borders
5. there's no way to fix the borders, except to vote Trump
6. Dems are bad
7. Hunter's laptop was suppressed, and contained evidence of (insert stupid theory)
8. Giving money and arms to Ukraine is bad
9. "they" are brainwashing our kids in schools
10. CRT is bad
11. all of Trump's policies were perfect, and we have no complaints about any of what he did
12. we don't care that Kushner got $2Billion from the Saudis after having supposedly worked there on behalf of the American people behind
closed doors, yet at the same time, we're going to lose our minds if we think Hunter did something similar in Ukraine.

....I could go on and on. Can anyone on the Forum tell if I'm talking about Old Salt's "Ideas" or FoxNations?

No, right? Well...that's cause they are identical. And he's been trolling the forum with this stuff for years now. Hasn't had an original thought since the old forum.

I would LOVE for you to post like the conservative you claim to be. You are unable to do that, save for fits and starts when you're tired of your own trolling, and act like a human. Then you stop doing that, and go right back to spewing FoxNation nonsense.

You don't give me credit for original thought. You won't hear about Pat Buchanan or Jim Webb on FNC. They're just catching up with me.

You PRETEND to want Buchanan.

Just a few weeks ago, you told the forum you supported every single one of Trump's policies over his four years.

This does NOT jive with Buchanan-Conservatism.

As for Webb? You like him because he's from the Navy, and clearly didn't pay attention to what he tried to do in the Senate. He's against your preference to throw everyone in jail for life for any offense, so long as they're not a Republican.

[old salt]

I think Vance “abandoned” his unit after only serving four years.

Declined to re-up, chickened out, and decided to retreat to the safety of Ohio State on the taxpayers’ dime.

I’m sure Salty and Cra will pipe up with outrage. I mean if Walz is a pretender and sleaze after 24 years, how can you stomach what Vance did?

The other NCOs in his unit might think he crapped out on them. The were under a stop loss order. They had no way out. They had to deploy to a combat zone. Their former SM got to run for Congress. What exactly did Vance do? He was deployed to Iraq and served in the MOS he was trained in and performed the job he was tasked by the Marines to do. I can stomach that fairly easily. In civilian speak for you...it's called doing your f***ing job.

Walz was allowed to leave. He left to run for Congress.

Vance was allowed to leave. He left to go to college and law school.

Same forking thing. Same forking thing.

Treat them both the same. And/or stfu.

JD Vance wasn't looking at a stop loss order former SM Walz was. Do you see the glaring difference? JD Vance left the military the same way I did it is called ETS...look it up nothing dishonorable about it at all. FTR there was nothing dishonorable about how former SM Walz left the service. The only thing in question counselor was his timing for doing so.

Fine. Why didn't they express an opinion at that time and wait YEARS until now to gripe publicly?

They did when he ran for Governor. It did not go national.

[a fan]

What makes you think I no longer care about Hunter.

Same way I could tell you didn't care about elections.....you didn't post a word about the midterm elections. Not a peep, even when I asked the rest of TeamTinFoil after the midterms if they had any comments....knowing that you had "forgotten" to complain about it now that Trump wasn't on the ballot.

I posted that Trump cost the (R)'s control of the Senate in the 2020 GA special elections & again in 2022 midterms with the candidates he endorsed, which also reduced their potential House majority. I've posted that he's doing the same thing again in this election, in addition to scuttling his own prospects in this election.

Has absolutely NOTHING to do with my post that you cited here.

My post is about your fake concerns about election fraud.

They are not fake. I'm concerned about the potential for election fraud & the difficulty in enforcing ballot harvesting, drop boxes, voter ID & citizenship requirements, as the results from VA which I just posted illustrate. You are not that accurate at telling me what you think I think. you tell me what you wish I thought.

That's because you can't remember what you yourself post.

Example? Just two post ago, you were championing absentee ballots with Real ID.

Now here you are in this post, telling me you're worried about "the difficulty in enforcing ballot harvesting, drop boxes...."

So which is it? You can't even keep your own fake concerns straight.

You're telling me now, for the 100th time, that you want in-person voting, ID in hand. That eliminates "ballot harvesting" and every other fake concern you have.

And when I tell you this is what needs to be done to get rid of your fake concerns? You move the goalposts again, and tell us that you're now fine with ballot harvesting and remote voting.

You can't keep your own BS straight.

[old salt]

Yeah, afan, TLD, Kismet & other TDS victims have no thread discipline.
They continue to troll me on Hunter, voting, Benghazi & other off-topic wharaboutisms.
If YA, c&s, Kramerica & I did not post, there would be no diversity of opinion or information in this forum.

Boo-hoo. The troll cannot stand getting some of his own medicine. Here's an idea - just STFU and nobody will troll you, you stupid troll.

We don't need you to post here. You've turned into a walking FoxNews talking head. You are unable to form your own opinion anymore.

Let's see if the Forum can tell whether this is Old Salt, or FoxNews:

1. DEI
2. The gays and Bud Light
3. election fraud is real
4. Dems allow open borders
5. there's no way to fix the borders, except to vote Trump
6. Dems are bad
7. Hunter's laptop was suppressed, and contained evidence of (insert stupid theory)
8. Giving money and arms to Ukraine is bad
9. "they" are brainwashing our kids in schools
10. CRT is bad
11. all of Trump's policies were perfect, and we have no complaints about any of what he did
12. we don't care that Kushner got $2Billion from the Saudis after having supposedly worked there on behalf of the American people behind
closed doors, yet at the same time, we're going to lose our minds if we think Hunter did something similar in Ukraine.

....I could go on and on. Can anyone on the Forum tell if I'm talking about Old Salt's "Ideas" or FoxNations?

No, right? Well...that's cause they are identical. And he's been trolling the forum with this stuff for years now. Hasn't had an original thought since the old forum.

I would LOVE for you to post like the conservative you claim to be. You are unable to do that, save for fits and starts when you're tired of your own trolling, and act like a human. Then you stop doing that, and go right back to spewing FoxNation nonsense.

You don't give me credit for original thought. You won't hear about Pat Buchanan or Jim Webb on FNC. They're just catching up with me.

You PRETEND to want Buchanan.

Just a few weeks ago, you told the forum you supported every single one of Trump's policies over his four years.

This does NOT jive with Buchanan-Conservatism.

As for Webb? You like him because he's from the Navy, and clearly didn't pay attention to what he tried to do in the Senate. He's against your preference to throw everyone in jail for life for any offense, so long as they're not a Republican.

The most recent article I posted about Buchanan was about how similar Trump's policies are to Buchanan's.

I like Webb because he resigned as Sec of the Navy over a matter of principle, he called out the hypocrisy in the Tailhook purge, & he was right about our mistake in going to war in the ME, ...all 3 times. He would not take us into stupid wars. I paid very close attention to what Webb did in the Senate, including his work on behalf of veterans.

[old salt]

Example? Just two post ago, you were championing absentee ballots with Real ID.

Now here you are in this post, telling me you're worried about "the difficulty in enforcing ballot harvesting, drop boxes...."

The use of Real ID can resolve my concerns. It's not being used for elections in all states.
How many times does this have to be explained to you ?

Where would we be if Biden had not debated Trump until after early voting ballots were mailed out ?

[old salt]

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/t ... ghanistan/

Tim Walz Nods along as an Interviewer Calls Him a Veteran of Afghanistan

by MARK ANTONIO WRIGHT, August 10, 2024

Early this morning, Phil Klein pointed me to a video, which I had not yet seen, of then-congressman Tim Walz nodding along to C-SPAN’s Greta Brawner as she introduces the Minnesota representative at the start of an interview. In this March 2016 sitdown, Walz’s biographical information and military résumé are read back to him, and in it, Brawner describes Walz as having “served with his battalion in Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan.”

In the clip — you can watch the entire 45-minute interview here — Walz nods affirmatively when he is described as a member of the House Armed Services Committee and as a member of the Veterans Affairs Committee. He nods affirmatively and smiles when the audience is told that he is “the highest ranking enlisted soldier to ever serve in Congress.” And then, after a slight pause, Walz nods affirmatively when he is described as having served in Afghanistan with his battalion, the 1-125th Field Artillery of the Minnesota National Guard.

What makes this clip especially alarming to me is the fact that, as anyone who has appeared in television interviews knows, biographical details such as those read by Brawner about the two congressmen are almost always provided to the interviewer by the interviewee or are, at the very least, verified by the individuals being interviewed before the cameras roll. Indeed, in the few TV appearances that I have made in my capacity as a National Review editor, I have been asked to provide a brief biographical introduction to the show’s producers, including relevant details about my own military service when I discussed a military-related matter such as the war in Ukraine.

How is it then possible that this blatantly inaccurate statement made it on to the air? I am very skeptical that Greta Brawner made up that detail out of the blue. That’s not how these things work. In fact, at the close of the introductions, as Brawner transitions to the topic at hand (proposed Obama-era reductions in the manning levels of the Armed Forces), Brawner tells the congressmen, “I read that” — i.e., the written biographical introductions — “because I want to preface our discussion with your military careers because you two are trying to stop President Obama from drawing down the Army.”

Why did Walz not immediately stop and correct the record when he was described inaccurately as a veteran of the Afghanistan war? The whole point of the recounting of the congressmen’s military careers and résumés was to give the two men credibility when discussing matters of military concern. Shouldn’t Walz therefore be a stickler about making sure that information was accurate in order to safeguard his credibility?

Yes, it’s true that at the 6:50 mark of the interview, as part of a longer soliloquy about frequent deployment cycles for U.S. forces, Walz mentions how his “Guard unit backfilled to Europe to provide the security mission as the 173rd [Airborne Brigade] moved to Afghanistan,” but he never corrects the record about his service, or lack thereof, in Afghanistan.

It’s especially galling, in my opinion, that this incident happened in a joint interview in which Walz was sitting next to New York’s Chris Gibson, a retired U.S. Army colonel and a man who faithfully served his country on four combat deployments and earned a Purple Heart, four Bronze Stars, and a Combat Infantryman’s Badge.

I don’t know about you, but if I had been sitting next to such a man to discuss matters concerning our armed forces, and a national TV audience was told that I had served in a combat zone when I had not, I would explicitly correct the record.

All week, I have grown increasingly perturbed by what can only be called a nearly two-decade-long pattern of sloppy and arguably mendacious mischaracterizations of Tim Walz’s service record in which Walz, Walz’s various political campaigns, and members of the press have consistently promulgated inaccuracies.

The editorial board of NR laid out many of the details this week, writing:
From the beginning of Walz’s political career, Walz and his campaign staff have been loose with their characterization of Walz’s overseas-deployment record in a way that seems intended to leave the uninformed with the impression that Walz served in a combat zone.

Usually, these statements have been phrased in ways that could be plausibly defensible if Walz had been pressed on them. His 2005 press release, for example, states that Walz served overseas “including an eight month deployment during Operation Enduring Freedom.” On other occasions, Walz has said that he deployed “in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.” These statements, referring to Walz’s 2003 deployment to Italy, are of course technically true, but it’s easy to see why some veterans would complain that Walz’s statements are intended to obfuscate the reality of Walz’s service and imply that Walz spent time in Afghanistan.

That editorial goes on to lay out how, over the years, there has been an ongoing pattern of friendly journalists calling Walz a veteran of combat zones, variously, in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Again, how is it that all of these mistakes happen in the same direction? Why is there a consistent pattern of third parties, acting in good faith, getting the idea that Walz has served in a combat zone? Why did C-SPAN’s Greta Brawner think that Walz had served with his battalion during the war in Afghanistan?

Of course, the through-line of all these incidents are conversations and interactions with Tim Walz himself.

It is my general philosophy to assume incompetence rather than malign intent whenever something goes wrong in public life. It should go without saying that such a standard should be applied across the board — both to those whose politics I might find simpatico and for those on the other side of the aisle.

For this reason, I have strained to give Walz the benefit of the doubt in the controversy over his military service. But it is getting increasingly hard to believe that the widespread inaccuracies and mischaracterizations about Walz’s record are merely a series of unrelated misunderstandings that have nothing at all to do with Tim Walz.

Mark Antonio Wright is the executive editor of National Review. A native of Tulsa, Okla., he is a graduate of the University of Oklahoma in Norman and an infantry officer in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve.

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Example? Just two post ago, you were championing absentee ballots with Real ID.

Now here you are in this post, telling me you're worried about "the difficulty in enforcing ballot harvesting, drop boxes...."

The use of Real ID can resolve my concerns. It's not being used for elections in all states.
How many times does this have to be explained to you ?

I'll tell you when: when you stop contradicting yourself.

How long would it take me to pull up posts where you make fun of Colorado's system, and "ballot harvesting"?

We use Real ID.

You keep forgetting what you personally post, OS. Which is fine, but then don't yell at me because you can't remember what you wrote.

You're AGAINST the Colorado system. Full stop. And we use Real ID. And we have Ballot Drop boxes for absentee voting.

You're arguing with yourself here. Get back to us when you make up your mind, and put the goalposts in the ground permanently.

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Neither myself or Old Salt is questioning his service or how honorable his service was or how long his service was.

I say again. I don't question Master Sergeant Walz's decision to retire.

Well we have pages and pages of posts on here over the last several days doing exactly that.

Walz is "shady." Walz is "fudging." Walz left his soldiers in a lurch. Walz's soldiers are burned by his decision to leave.

On and on and on. All garbage.

Both Walz and Vance were allowed to leave. Neither was bound by a stop loss. They both left to pursue other opportunities. Same forking thing.

And you throwing shade about his retirement rank is so lame and preposterous.

1. What rank did Walz hold and serve in? Command sergeant major (whatever that is/means).

2. What rank did Walz hold at the time he retired? CSM.

3. But solely for benefit calculations, what rank was used to calculate Walz's pension benefit? One notch lower.

And so when Walz says he's a "retired CSM", you trolls are throwing shade solely because of #3 and completely ignoring #1 and #2?

You'd be ok if Walz always/only said the following "I was serving as a CSM when I retired. But I wont/can't say "I'm a retired CSM" because my pension payout was calculated on the basis of a lower rank."

YCBS. GMAFB.

GFY loser.