Re: Johns Hopkins 2023
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:10 pm
Joe B. and Dixon are doing the OSU game
I know its been a rough few years, but we're playing well, on a 5-game winning streak, and while the B1G is probably the best conference this year top-to-bottom, there are no unbeatable teams. I'm going to try to resist the temptation of figuring out the bubble situation if we go winless (or only win 1) the rest of the way.44WeWantMore wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:02 pm Not that I think it likely, but if the Jays were not selected after a three-game losing streak to end the regular season followed by a first-round B1G loss you would not hear me complain. There is always a case to be made for bubble-out teams (think ND and Duke last year), but somebody has to be bubble-out.
I expect the Jays to win at least one more. If in the regular season, that gives them an easier first-round B1G game, so that means I think two more wins is more likely than no more wins. So, yes, I think a seed is more likely than bubble-out.
the ncaa site has 16 team categories on the individual team pages. We're in the bottom half of the conference in 13 of them-all except win percentage, saves per game, and opponent clearing percentage. There's your hesitation despite the record. Penn State is 1 or tied for 1 in 7. Rutgers even after last weekend is 1 in 3 categories.primitiveskills wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:20 pmI know its been a rough few years, but we're playing well, on a 5-game winning streak, and while the B1G is probably the best conference this year top-to-bottom, there are no unbeatable teams. I'm going to try to resist the temptation of figuring out the bubble situation if we go winless (or only win 1) the rest of the way.44WeWantMore wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:02 pm Not that I think it likely, but if the Jays were not selected after a three-game losing streak to end the regular season followed by a first-round B1G loss you would not hear me complain. There is always a case to be made for bubble-out teams (think ND and Duke last year), but somebody has to be bubble-out.
I expect the Jays to win at least one more. If in the regular season, that gives them an easier first-round B1G game, so that means I think two more wins is more likely than no more wins. So, yes, I think a seed is more likely than bubble-out.
Just keep winning games. Enjoy the ride. Its been awhile.jhu06 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:33 pmthe ncaa site has 16 team categories on the individual team pages. We're in the bottom half of the conference in 13 of them-all except win percentage, saves per game, and opponent clearing percentage. There's your hesitation despite the record. Penn State is 1 or tied for 1 in 7. Rutgers even after last weekend is 1 in 3 categories.primitiveskills wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:20 pmI know its been a rough few years, but we're playing well, on a 5-game winning streak, and while the B1G is probably the best conference this year top-to-bottom, there are no unbeatable teams. I'm going to try to resist the temptation of figuring out the bubble situation if we go winless (or only win 1) the rest of the way.44WeWantMore wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:02 pm Not that I think it likely, but if the Jays were not selected after a three-game losing streak to end the regular season followed by a first-round B1G loss you would not hear me complain. There is always a case to be made for bubble-out teams (think ND and Duke last year), but somebody has to be bubble-out.
I expect the Jays to win at least one more. If in the regular season, that gives them an easier first-round B1G game, so that means I think two more wins is more likely than no more wins. So, yes, I think a seed is more likely than bubble-out.
I’m guessing:44WeWantMore wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:02 pm Not that I think it likely, but if the Jays were not selected after a three-game losing streak to end the regular season followed by a first-round B1G loss you would not hear me complain. There is always a case to be made for bubble-out teams (think ND and Duke last year), but somebody has to be bubble-out.
I expect the Jays to win at least one more. If in the regular season, that gives them an easier first-round B1G game, so that means I think two more wins is more likely than no more wins. So, yes, I think a seed is more likely than bubble-out.
A lot of those stats are not great indicators of how good a team actually is unless you adjust them for the level of competition. We have the best offense in the conference when you look at adjusted efficiency. It's not super helpful to know how many goals Rutgers scored against Marist and St. John's.jhu06 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:33 pm the ncaa site has 16 team categories on the individual team pages. We're in the bottom half of the conference in 13 of them-all except win percentage, saves per game, and opponent clearing percentage. There's your hesitation despite the record. Penn State is 1 or tied for 1 in 7. Rutgers even after last weekend is 1 in 3 categories.
I would agree. When the team struggles a lot of the fans overreact (myself included) but it’s only because we want the program to do well. Add in the fact when the Jays struggle it brings out every buffoon from Cuse, College Park and Loyola camps ready to do cartwheels of joy through the thread.
I don't think there's a loss of steam, I think it's a transition. We're used to a series of narratives around the program and obviously some of those are changing.
When a team struggles or is losing it avails itself to more suggestions of what to do to make it better. Try Player X... Move Player Y....the coach is a moron... Those types of posts then bring out counter proposals or defenses of the current situation. It is sports and people become passionate about it particularly when they all want a team to do well.flalax22 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:23 pmI would agree. When the team struggles a lot of the fans overreact (myself included) but it’s only because we want the program to do well. Add in the fact when the Jays struggle it brings out every buffoon from Cuse, College Park and Loyola camps ready to do cartwheels of joy through the thread.
When the Jays are rolling they disappear and the worry wart fans tend to chill.
So if you want action here make sure to check back in if the Jays blow the next three games.
The jump from Not Ranked/Receiving votes to top 10 is a lot more chaotic, polarizing, and emotional than the jump from where we are now to where Duke/UVA/the fighting Kavanaughs are in 2023. I'm sure 51 or someone can break down what it will take for the 23 jays to make that jump better starting this week but it requires more consistency more than anything else. Cutting down on turnovers, better faceoffs, avoiding the runs that rutgers/delaware had, closing out teams before the 4th instead of needing to close late, stars playing at an all american level rather than an all conference level etc.steel_hop wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:05 amWhen a team struggles or is losing it avails itself to more suggestions of what to do to make it better. Try Player X... Move Player Y....the coach is a moron... Those types of posts then bring out counter proposals or defenses of the current situation. It is sports and people become passionate about it particularly when they all want a team to do well.flalax22 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:23 pmI would agree. When the team struggles a lot of the fans overreact (myself included) but it’s only because we want the program to do well. Add in the fact when the Jays struggle it brings out every buffoon from Cuse, College Park and Loyola camps ready to do cartwheels of joy through the thread.
When the Jays are rolling they disappear and the worry wart fans tend to chill.
So if you want action here make sure to check back in if the Jays blow the next three games.
As for me. The team is playing well. Not sure they are a top 5/6 team - though likely a top 10 team. They have certainly been playing well. I'd love to see Hopkins replay the UNC game with a full weeks preparation. Saturday's opponent is going to be a tough one. PSU has beaten some good teams and would almost be a mirror image of Hopkins. A team that wasn't supposed to be that good has been right the ship if you will after a couple of tough seasons.