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Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:18 am
by MDlaxfan76
sheesh, take the loss RRR.

You asked for proof, got it instantaneously.

and as Geneva points out, he's been quite consistent on this re taxes...take the loss and move on...

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:38 am
by runrussellrun
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:18 am sheesh, take the loss RRR.

You asked for proof, got it instantaneously.

and as Geneva points out, he's been quite consistent on this re taxes...take the loss and move on...
ok

where can I find the box score :roll:

Certainly, with the Biden administration coming, and the nation cash strapped, HE will eliminate all the tax shelters ?

Is this ok to track? Biden and the completely controlled house, that they will work on the tax code?

Or, say, in 2023.....when the tax shelters are STILL in place, will it be because the nation had other priorities?

Like creating a Ministry of Truth

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:51 am
by Farfromgeneva
You’re wrong and your claim/accusation towards Brooklyn was wrong. Why can’t you just admit that? And it’s not like Brook. I have argued. I’m still right, South Bronx would’ve taken E NY back in the day, but I’m hardly schlepping for the guy. More just I know I’ve seen him talk plenty about tax avoidance problems in this country so I knew your claim was incorrect. Now you want to
Slain 4 isn’t enough. Guess what, there’s more in that spirit. You are wrong but instead you try to pull a fast one a cry about a guy who hasn’t even taken office yet but pretend to be agnostic. The hypocrisy of the one who calls everyone else a hypocrite is astounding sometimes.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:15 pm
by runrussellrun
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:51 am You’re wrong and your claim/accusation towards Brooklyn was wrong. Why can’t you just admit that? And it’s not like Brook. I have argued. I’m still right, South Bronx would’ve taken E NY back in the day, but I’m hardly schlepping for the guy. More just I know I’ve seen him talk plenty about tax avoidance problems in this country so I knew your claim was incorrect. Now you want to
Slain 4 isn’t enough. Guess what, there’s more in that spirit. You are wrong but instead you try to pull a fast one a cry about a guy who hasn’t even taken office yet but pretend to be agnostic. The hypocrisy of the one who calls everyone else a hypocrite is astounding sometimes.
ok

you are gonna track his comments about the next two years, where the Dems control everything.

The tax shelters that brook is concerned with, they will go away during the Biden 2 year plan?

IS it too much to ask which, specific IRS tax shelter law/code, brook is referring too?

https://joebiden.com/two-tax-policies/

If there is a Biden proposal to play with the tax code , specifically tax "shelters", not seeing it on his own website.

More vague rants with no backbone of support........

So, please help the ignorant out.

Good for brooklyn, he mentioned, a few times (4 out of 4200 posts) tax shelters.

IRS code.....what IS a tax shelter? Buying a Honda Jet/Elite, depreciating the purchase and writing off the operational expenses?

How about when google got way below market value aviation fuel for their carbonless footprinting private jets, IS that kind of like a "tax shelter"

https://www.irs.gov/businesses/corporat ... ansactions

guess, as you claim, you know all about how complicated all this tax stuff is.

brookie claiming vague concern for eliminating "tax shelters" is a non starter.......too many "shelters" to address. And you know it.

So, specifically, which tax shelter will Joe Biden eliminate that tRump refused too? crickets or some personal attack....like I care 8-)

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:24 pm
by runrussellrun
Farfromgeneva wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:21 pm It’s pretty evident if you do the keyword search for tax and author Brooklyn he’s been consistent on this. See numerous posts that don’t use the term “shelter” but speak to the spirit of having a desire for at least tax parity if not inverting the existing system.

Search problem not the poster lying. Just have to put more effort in than hoping a rifle shot target search will hit on the exact phrase of nomenclature.
Did you read the part where I wrote, "all good ideas, btw" ?

stop acting as if you know peoples thoughts, ideas, etc.

or, you can just keep spitting into the wind

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:31 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Like calling everyone hypocrites all the time and accusations that turn out to be not true and then just doubling down? That type of spitting in the wind?

Or writing like a invalid after ages of folks asking you to be more intentionally clear so as to attempt to engage and your defiant refusal to do so to the point people check out on anything of substance you desperately and stridently cry about wanting others to see or understand? This type of spitting in the wind?

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:32 pm
by runrussellrun
Off the bat, Joe BIden, soon to sworn in as POTUSA, has this to say about offshore investments:

Requiring a true minimum tax on ALL foreign earnings of United States companies located overseas so that we do our part to put an end to the global race to the bottom that rewards global tax havens. This will be 21% — TWICE the rate of the Trump offshoring tax rate and will apply to all income.

https://joebiden.com/two-tax-policies/


Is this where brookie comes in and moves the nets? Because, they way I read it, Biden has NO intention of, to quote Brookie, "eliminate" tax shelters, just doubling the tax rate, on paper.

and, pretty sure AFAN and others would agree that Biden's 28% corporate tax rate IS also nonsense, in reality.

Kind of like having rules against typing certain, hateful words, even when quoting them. Yup, geneva, you seem pretty quite about that.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:33 pm
by runrussellrun
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:31 pm Like calling everyone hypocrites all the time and accusations that turn out to be not true and then just doubling down? That type of spitting in the wind?

Or writing like a invalid after ages of folks asking you to be more intentionally clear so as to attempt to engage and your defiant refusal to do so to the point people check out on anything of substance you desperately and stridently cry about wanting others to see or understand? This type of spitting in the wind?
discuss issues, not people.

We are talking about tax shelters, not whatever it is you are writing. stay irrelevant

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:34 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:32 pm Off the bat, Joe BIden, soon to sworn in as POTUSA, has this to say about offshore investments:

Requiring a true minimum tax on ALL foreign earnings of United States companies located overseas so that we do our part to put an end to the global race to the bottom that rewards global tax havens. This will be 21% — TWICE the rate of the Trump offshoring tax rate and will apply to all income.

https://joebiden.com/two-tax-policies/


Is this where brookie comes in and moves the nets? Because, they way I read it, Biden has NO intention of, to quote Brookie, "eliminate" tax shelters, just doubling the tax rate, on paper.

and, pretty sure AFAN and others would agree that Biden's 28% corporate tax rate IS also nonsense, in reality.

Kind of like having rules against typing certain, hateful words, even when quoting them. Yup, geneva, you seem pretty quite about that.
You mean you CHOOSE not to defend Biden?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He must not have a nice boat with hot chicks! Who would want to hang out with him??!!

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:40 pm
by runrussellrun
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:34 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:32 pm Off the bat, Joe BIden, soon to sworn in as POTUSA, has this to say about offshore investments:

Requiring a true minimum tax on ALL foreign earnings of United States companies located overseas so that we do our part to put an end to the global race to the bottom that rewards global tax havens. This will be 21% — TWICE the rate of the Trump offshoring tax rate and will apply to all income.

https://joebiden.com/two-tax-policies/


Is this where brookie comes in and moves the nets? Because, they way I read it, Biden has NO intention of, to quote Brookie, "eliminate" tax shelters, just doubling the tax rate, on paper.

and, pretty sure AFAN and others would agree that Biden's 28% corporate tax rate IS also nonsense, in reality.

Kind of like having rules against typing certain, hateful words, even when quoting them. Yup, geneva, you seem pretty quite about that.
You mean you CHOOSE not to defend Biden?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He must not have a nice boat with hot chicks! Who would want to hang out with him??!!
Apparently, I am trying to "win" instead of "lose" :lol:

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:41 pm
by Farfromgeneva
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:15 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:51 am You’re wrong and your claim/accusation towards Brooklyn was wrong. Why can’t you just admit that? And it’s not like Brook. I have argued. I’m still right, South Bronx would’ve taken E NY back in the day, but I’m hardly schlepping for the guy. More just I know I’ve seen him talk plenty about tax avoidance problems in this country so I knew your claim was incorrect. Now you want to
Slain 4 isn’t enough. Guess what, there’s more in that spirit. You are wrong but instead you try to pull a fast one a cry about a guy who hasn’t even taken office yet but pretend to be agnostic. The hypocrisy of the one who calls everyone else a hypocrite is astounding sometimes.
ok

you are gonna track his comments about the next two years, where the Dems control everything.

The tax shelters that brook is concerned with, they will go away during the Biden 2 year plan?

IS it too much to ask which, specific IRS tax shelter law/code, brook is referring too?

https://joebiden.com/two-tax-policies/

If there is a Biden proposal to play with the tax code , specifically tax "shelters", not seeing it on his own website.

More vague rants with no backbone of support........

So, please help the ignorant out.

Good for brooklyn, he mentioned, a few times (4 out of 4200 posts) tax shelters.

IRS code.....what IS a tax shelter? Buying a Honda Jet/Elite, depreciating the purchase and writing off the operational expenses?

How about when google got way below market value aviation fuel for their carbonless footprinting private jets, IS that kind of like a "tax shelter"

https://www.irs.gov/businesses/corporat ... ansactions

guess, as you claim, you know all about how complicated all this tax stuff is.

brookie claiming vague concern for eliminating "tax shelters" is a non starter.......too many "shelters" to address. And you know it.

So, specifically, which tax shelter will Joe Biden eliminate that tRump refused too? crickets or some personal attack....like I care 8-)
Not tracking anything I just keep in my empty topics and angles of focus of folks so it’s easy to say “yeah, Brook is a former IRS employee and famed liberal from E NY who used to cut bi**es on his way to school and now retired in MN eating sweets with his coffee in the mornings. He’s even consistent on wanting “progressive” (technical use of term) vs “regressive” forms of wealth redistribution and specifically so from the tax code.”

I don’t need to find the specific term “Tax shelter” to see the thrust of his arguments consistently that the tax code is inefficient and favors the wealthy over the poor and he’s like that closed up. That’s not tracking anything,that’s giving the other person the benefit of paying attention and treating them like a legitimate counterparty. Hell OS and I go at it regularly but I can appreciate his shots about my tastes for fit, “emotionally scratch and dent” women in my head as a married guy with the appetite of a 14yr old ginger boy with curly hair and braces.

But it’s all moot in all your ranting and whatever the style is called other than acid related puking I am simply responding to your attack on him and accusation of his hypocrisy because you did a quick keyword search that was too targeted and clearly meant you were only being superficial looking for that specific term and not reading what he wrote. That’s my point. You don’t care about what anyone else writes or thinks you just want to constantly be acknowledged for what you think. It’s evident by actions, I don’t need to read minds. The alternative is that you would be the biggest fraud and liar of all of us here. Which one would you like to select from the menu of “fattylaxwheatrrrABV actual behavior on two websites over a decade to be held accountable for”? Feel free to respond in any of ten new handles you wI’ll eventually create if you hadn’t already to respond to others (and often yourself if one bothers to check the TAats thread).

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:42 pm
by Farfromgeneva
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:33 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:31 pm Like calling everyone hypocrites all the time and accusations that turn out to be not true and then just doubling down? That type of spitting in the wind?

Or writing like a invalid after ages of folks asking you to be more intentionally clear so as to attempt to engage and your defiant refusal to do so to the point people check out on anything of substance you desperately and stridently cry about wanting others to see or understand? This type of spitting in the wind?
discuss issues, not people.

We are talking about tax shelters, not whatever it is you are writing. stay irrelevant
You just accused someone of being disingenuous and when you were proven wrong you deflect and do this. What a joke.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:44 pm
by Farfromgeneva
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:33 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:31 pm Like calling everyone hypocrites all the time and accusations that turn out to be not true and then just doubling down? That type of spitting in the wind?

Or writing like a invalid after ages of folks asking you to be more intentionally clear so as to attempt to engage and your defiant refusal to do so to the point people check out on anything of substance you desperately and stridently cry about wanting others to see or understand? This type of spitting in the wind?
discuss issues, not people.

We are talking about tax shelters, not whatever it is you are writing. stay irrelevant
You’re talking about what you want to talk about. Have made yourself irrelevant over years of ignoring everyone’s attempts to engage. I have no idea what exactly your saying most of the time.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:45 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:40 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:34 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:32 pm Off the bat, Joe BIden, soon to sworn in as POTUSA, has this to say about offshore investments:

Requiring a true minimum tax on ALL foreign earnings of United States companies located overseas so that we do our part to put an end to the global race to the bottom that rewards global tax havens. This will be 21% — TWICE the rate of the Trump offshoring tax rate and will apply to all income.

https://joebiden.com/two-tax-policies/


Is this where brookie comes in and moves the nets? Because, they way I read it, Biden has NO intention of, to quote Brookie, "eliminate" tax shelters, just doubling the tax rate, on paper.

and, pretty sure AFAN and others would agree that Biden's 28% corporate tax rate IS also nonsense, in reality.

Kind of like having rules against typing certain, hateful words, even when quoting them. Yup, geneva, you seem pretty quite about that.
You mean you CHOOSE not to defend Biden?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He must not have a nice boat with hot chicks! Who would want to hang out with him??!!
Apparently, I am trying to "win" instead of "lose" :lol:
You are in time out.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:49 pm
by runrussellrun
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:45 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:40 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:34 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:32 pm Off the bat, Joe BIden, soon to sworn in as POTUSA, has this to say about offshore investments:

Requiring a true minimum tax on ALL foreign earnings of United States companies located overseas so that we do our part to put an end to the global race to the bottom that rewards global tax havens. This will be 21% — TWICE the rate of the Trump offshoring tax rate and will apply to all income.

https://joebiden.com/two-tax-policies/


Is this where brookie comes in and moves the nets? Because, they way I read it, Biden has NO intention of, to quote Brookie, "eliminate" tax shelters, just doubling the tax rate, on paper.

and, pretty sure AFAN and others would agree that Biden's 28% corporate tax rate IS also nonsense, in reality.

Kind of like having rules against typing certain, hateful words, even when quoting them. Yup, geneva, you seem pretty quite about that.
You mean you CHOOSE not to defend Biden?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He must not have a nice boat with hot chicks! Who would want to hang out with him??!!
Apparently, I am trying to "win" instead of "lose" :lol:
You are in time out.
Huh? Oh.....that!

Just bringing my good friend Elsa to visit my only friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaPfzgUFJyI

....one of the few decent things to come out of Philly

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:57 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:45 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:40 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:34 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:32 pm Off the bat, Joe BIden, soon to sworn in as POTUSA, has this to say about offshore investments:

Requiring a true minimum tax on ALL foreign earnings of United States companies located overseas so that we do our part to put an end to the global race to the bottom that rewards global tax havens. This will be 21% — TWICE the rate of the Trump offshoring tax rate and will apply to all income.

https://joebiden.com/two-tax-policies/


Is this where brookie comes in and moves the nets? Because, they way I read it, Biden has NO intention of, to quote Brookie, "eliminate" tax shelters, just doubling the tax rate, on paper.

and, pretty sure AFAN and others would agree that Biden's 28% corporate tax rate IS also nonsense, in reality.

Kind of like having rules against typing certain, hateful words, even when quoting them. Yup, geneva, you seem pretty quite about that.
You mean you CHOOSE not to defend Biden?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He must not have a nice boat with hot chicks! Who would want to hang out with him??!!
Apparently, I am trying to "win" instead of "lose" :lol:
You are in time out.
Just seeing the bit buried in there to me from trips. Hey man I use incendiary and visceral language and descriptors to evoke more honest responses often. Who and how folks respond is on them, not me. We can clearly see that being held accountable for his own behavior the man of many handles has lost the plot blaming everyone else, pointing fingers at others and still being pissy about the box. Does no one believe in accountability anymore?

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:25 pm
by runrussellrun
Yeah....dude.....got thrown in the penalty box for righting


"it's what he does"

that is it .

Even you would admit your tone , towards me, afan and a myriad of other posters....most in fact, is way more harsh than that.

same with the cu88's "nigger" being unpenalized.

picka lane, indeed.

you don't see the cesspool of rule application. Guess, in this instance, I am wrong. they are clearly, NOT, all the same. ;)

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:41 pm
by Farfromgeneva
My tone has changed. Not towards Afan, and by the way speak for yourself here don’t drag others in would by my general recommendation (so as to be sure you don’t accuse me of telling you what to do, just friendly advice). I got tired of trying in good faith with some people and then not doing so in return so I dropped the pretense of a certain degree of civility and stopped to that level just without the additional layer of dishonesty of those who are acting in bad faith but attempting to mask it in the veneer of being agnostic, impartial, or collected in their approach. Whats your point? We’re all guests here and host makes the house rules. If I violate the house then I will be held accountable. But I won’t whine a ton, drag it into discussions weeks later, etc.

You know when you personally lost me. Summertime when you responded to one of my posts with whatever you wanted to focus on that was at best tangentially related and not really in spirit. I asked more than once that if you wanted to engage me on your topics that you at a minimum first respond to my initial post’s idea in some way and you continued to refuse even after I asked specifically “do you even care about responding to my post“ which you quoted” In your off the run reply. It had happened to me several times and I witnessed it all over by you for years so I flipped the switch and just leveled the playing field were were on. I’ve always started out giving folks the benefit of the doubt and even a pretty long book for most. Just like the box you’ve earned what you get in return for your efforts on here. It’s that simple and you act like your so evolved that the world is just persecuting you unfairl for your genius as if you were Jesus.

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:42 pm
by Brooklyn
poor RRR is having an especially bad day :lol:

Re: The Nation's Financial Condition

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:44 pm
by runrussellrun
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:42 pm poor RRR is having an especially bad day :lol:
and it won't be better until you give me a specific tax shelter law :D

How is bill gates giving away all his money thing going? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: